The Other Duggars: The Lost Girls and Amy

[Sew Sumi]

Sierra? Interesting theory. But I stand by Famy; someone not named Famy or Dillon has to pay for her wedding! 

[yankee1151]

Right if Amy is the leak, she's guessing.  I think their ditsy preggo party planner is the leak.  The Duggar wannabe, you know who I mean.

Sierra. I thought it was her too. But Amy makes more sense. And I SO hope it's her. She may be a greedy famewhore with questionable taste in men, but she comes by it honestly.  And quite frankly Amy looks like Mother Theresa compared to the rest of her fucked up family (Deanna and the minor children excluded). 

 

I would LOVE LOVE LOVE it if the "source" was Grandma. 

[Chai]

 Makes me realize I do hope the Duggars survive this and go away.

 

 

ETA I have no idea what I meant by saying 'prosper". I  think they prospered enough! Now go away!

Edited August 22, 2015 by Chai

[GeeGolly]

Amy is at home whining to anyone who will listen, "Don't they realize, I'm the good Duggar?" "I overcame being born out of wedlock." "Why, why, why isn't People noticing that I am the good Duggar?" "I'm Christian, I can sing." "I've kissed boys and I am still the good Duggar."

[FortKnox]

Amy is at home whining to anyone who will listen, "Don't they realize, I'm the good Duggar?" "I overcame being born out of wedlock." "Why, why, why isn't People noticing that I am the good Duggar?" "I'm Christian, I can sing." "I've kissed boys and I am still the good Duggar."

Because, her real name is Amy Jordan which technically means she's not a Duggar.

[OpieTaylor]

Right if Amy is the leak, she's guessing.  I think their ditsy preggo party planner is the leak.  The Duggar wannabe, you know who I mean.

How about Deanna being the leak - and/or her husband? I imagine she's got some issues with her holier-than-thou brother.

Edited August 22, 2015 by OpieTaylor

[BitterApple]

What exactly was leaked from an inside source? I've only been following the coverage sporadically.

[zenme]

Didn't Amy's paternal grandmother comment on something at one time? Maybe it's her. 

[sometimesy]

Hannie, who are you on  the phone with? Jed, Jer what are these charges on your cell bill?

[OpieTaylor]

What exactly was leaked from an inside source? I've only been following the coverage sporadically.

I don't actually know! I haven't had time to read all the news links. But People magazine was referred to in earlier posts, so maybe they're quoting unnamed sources - ?

[JoanArc]

I vote Cathy, her husband, or Dan. They're probably over this scandal shit.

[GeeGolly]

Whoever the People source is sounds like a BSer anyway. Sounds like speculation to me.

[yankee1151]

The source could literally be anyone. I can't imagine there are many people who know them personally, even (or especially) in Gothard circles, who respect them at all anymore or believe their BS. I would think the Gothard folks are mighty pissed off that the Duggars are giving their cult a bad name. In order of probability, these are my guesses: 

 

1. Amy and/or that Dill Pickle guy

2. Sierra

3. Deanna

4. Anyone from the (former) TLC crew 

5. Kelly or Gil Bates

6. Grandma

7. Any of the kids Jed/Jer and up. (this of course is my wish, and the next step is revealing themselves and getting a big fat paycheck for the real scoop from a reputable publication, followed by a one way plane ticket to anywhere)

[Sew Sumi]

Today was to be Famy's third shower (no way she could have one a week before the wedding next week)! Unlike the other two, there has been nary a peep from her on social media today. 

 

I suspected that this was a family shower. I wonder if it got canceled? If so...oops?

[kokapetl]

From Josiah's siduggar Instagram

"Just finished filming a western movie with some of the Bates boys and friends. 'Twas fun Yall! @thebatesfam @lawbates #shortfilm #cowboys #jedduggar #jerduggar #duggarstudios"

[Bayarea4]

When I saw that guy second from the left, all I could think of was...

Jake Gyllenhaal in Brokeback Mountain. "Josiah, I can't quit you."

[BitterApple]

Jer and Jed may be the first Duggar males to escape puberty unscathed. If they can make it to 18 with their hairlines and their waistlines in tact, I think they'll be safely over the hump.

[Churchhoney]

From Josiah's siduggar Instagram

"Just finished filming a western movie with some of the Bates boys and friends. 'Twas fun Yall! @thebatesfam @lawbates #shortfilm #cowboys #jedduggar #jerduggar #duggarstudios"

 

Cripes. How old are they? 10?

[Fuzzysox]

An obnoxious freeloader who's about to have her THIRD wedding shower. I'm not shedding any tears either.

Patiently waiting on the pictures to see if Anna shows up with her trademark smile on her face.

From Josiah's siduggar Instagram

"Just finished filming a western movie with some of the Bates boys and friends. 'Twas fun Yall! @thebatesfam @lawbates #shortfilm #cowboys #jedduggar #jerduggar #duggarstudios"

Yikes, clutching my pearls now.

Edited August 23, 2015 by Fuzzysox

[kokapetl]

Jed's sassy pose. Was that intentional? Also, surely they noticed westerns aren't full of flannel shirts?

Edited August 23, 2015 by Kokapetl

[ChocolateAddict]

How old are they again?

[NewDigs]

'Twas nigh on 15 years that these young lads were born.

Yall!

ETA or Josiah anyway.

Edited August 24, 2015 by NewDigs

[kokapetl]

The Hartono boy reminds me of Yul Brynner in Westworld.

[Sew Sumi]

There are three Hartono brothers. Do we know which one this is? I guess it's Jonathan, but I've only seen the other boys from a distance (younger, but still teenagers). 

[kokapetl]

Are they old enough to have student visas? Did we ever see them on the show?

[GeeGolly]

At 15 (and a young 15 at that) I could not have paid my son to dress-up and perform in a cowboy skit. My mind is a boggling. 

[CofCinci]

At 15 (and a young 15 at that) I could not have paid my son to dress-up and perform in a cowboy skit. My mind is a boggling.

What else do these kids have? Our kids have friends to hang out with, sports, extracurricular activities, game systems, computers -- age appropriate activities that let them develop their own identities. These kids have noting expect for brochure/packet school and renovating siblings' houses.

Are they playing "Cowboys and Indians"? They probably have no idea how that is wrong historically, culturally and politically.

While they're playing dress up, the adults are freaking the fuck out. I bet the kids have no idea that father's empire is crumbling because the are so isolated and sequestered.

[NewDigs]

At 15 (and a young 15 at that) I could not have paid my son to dress-up and perform in a cowboy skit. My mind is a boggling.

Be prepared:

Correction.

I had Josiah's age wrong. He is 18!

A very young 18?

[kandinski]

They are all emotionally backward,look at Jackson always twirling around and behaving like a six year old.Without sounding harsh I think at least three of the kids have mild learning issues.

 

I mean  young female bible bashers are not bashing the doors down to "court" the older boys are they?I imagine dress up and tearing around the house screaming is as good as it gets.

Edited August 24, 2015 by kandinski

[3 is enough]

Jer and Jed will be 17 in December.

 

Sure, the video looks juvenile, but what else do they have to do?  I imagine homeschooling for them is pretty much done.

 

It is just criminal that those kids have been denied a basic education.  The twins seem to be more intelligent than most of their siblings.  Such a waste of potential, but I guess when you are numbers 9 and 10 of 19 you will get lost in the shuffle. 

 

As the kids get older I just despise Jim Bob and Michelle more and more.  What horrible parents they are.

[kokapetl]

Both of the twins have occupation not jurisdictions listed on the family website: lawn care, handyman, real estate maintenance. Joseph and Josiah have the same occupations, plus Ben is probably doing this too. Kind of overstaffed, plus Jason, James, Justin and even Jackson will graduate to this within 5 years. JimBob really needs to come up with a new and relatively labour intensive business for his kids to work at.

ETA: Jeremiah's future plans are "Graduate From High School"

Edited August 24, 2015 by Kokapetl

[Julia]

I'm really kind of disgusted that Derrick's very important and influential denomination-president pastor is wasting his time shaming Anna when he could be doing something about wrangling some vocational training or education for those kids. I'm pretty sure he knows a few people who could help.

[BitterApple]

Both of the twins have occupation not jurisdictions listed on the family website: lawn care, handyman, real estate maintenance. Joseph and Josiah have the same occupations, plus Ben is probably doing this too. Kind of over staffed

Right?! Does Boob have some Trump-like portfolio of properties that we don't know about? The lawns need to be mowed what, once a week? How long can that possibly take when they have those commercial riding mowers? It really requires a full time crew of five plus people?

[Scarlett45]

I do wonder how the dynamics of the household will change post the Josh scandal. I always thought JB/Michelle would loosen up as they got older just out of sheer exhaustion and as the sister moms got married, but now with the show gone and Josh's public embarrassment....

[dargosmydaddy]

Maybe it would be wise to let one of the middle boys study PR...

[SometimesBites]

Cripes. How old are they? 10?

Oh my god this picture. Heeheehee...not that I can't appreciate a little cosplay, but these boys made a little cowboy movie. Mm hm. I have several male friends who would absolutely ADORE taking these fellas to the nearest dude ranch and buying them mojitos.

[drafan]

 Also, surely they noticed westerns aren't full of flannel shirts?

 But, but, but......they have pearly snaps???? Isn't that suppose to be "cowboy-like"?

 

I especially love the skinny-leg jeans with whisker-faded creases.

 

Duggar Studios is awesome, y'all. Was this JB's 1955-era idea to land them some wimmin-folk interest? Looks like a promo pic for  The Andy Griffith Show.

Edited August 25, 2015 by drafan

[ChocolateAddict]

I think that this is another example of how the Duggar kids are seriously immature.  Everyone commented about how both Jill and Jessa didn't seem emotionally ready for marriage, given that they talked about their husbands like they were 13 and had their first crush.  

The way I see it is that J'Chelle and Boob have never given their kids the opportunity to mature.  The kids have never had to deal with a fight with their best friend, failing an assignment, losing a soccer game or any of the other 100 million experiences that help develop maturity and coping skills.  They don't socialize with other people outside the family which IMO contributes to their arrogance and lack of empathy (especially with Jessa).  Which is how they ended up with an 18 and 16 old boys dressing up as a cowboys rather than learning differential equations and trying to decide if they should ask a girl to a formal. My brother is 17 and he and his friends wouldn't ever, ever, ever dress up like that unless it was a joke for mufti day (since they wear uniforms).  Dressing up like that in a non-ironic way and then posing it on social media would cause any of them to just about die from social embarrassment.  It has got to a point where the social isolation that the Duggar's live in is no longer quirky but harmless but shows how stunted their kids are socially and emotionally. 

[Wellfleet]

I think that this is another example of how the Duggar kids are seriously immature.  Everyone commented about how both Jill and Jessa didn't seem emotionally ready for marriage, given that they talked about their husbands like they were 13 and had their first crush.  

The way I see it is that J'Chelle and Boob have never given their kids the opportunity to mature.  The kids have never had to deal with a fight with their best friend, failing an assignment, losing a soccer game or any of the other 100 million experiences that help develop maturity and coping skills.  They don't socialize with other people outside the family which IMO contributes to their arrogance and lack of empathy (especially with Jessa).  Which is how they ended up with an 18 and 16 old boys dressing up as a cowboys rather than learning differential equations and trying to decide if they should ask a girl to a formal. My brother is 17 and he and his friends wouldn't ever, ever, ever dress up like that unless it was a joke for mufti day (since they wear uniforms).  Dressing up like that in a non-ironic way and then posing it on social media would cause any of them to just about die from social embarrassment.  It has got to a point where the social isolation that the Duggar's live in is no longer quirky but harmless but shows how stunted their kids are socially and emotionally. 

 

Very well-said. And IMO, entirely-accurate.

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

Jer and Jed will be 17 in December.

Sure, the video looks juvenile, but what else do they have to do?

Get jobs?

Help grandma with laundry? Help the sister moms with their responsibilities? (I know, I know, that's women's work).

Write a tell-all book and escape the Duggar house forever?

Yawn, think I'll just put on my plaid shirt, jeans, and cowboy boots and play cowboy.....errr, I mean film a western.

PS Margie, be glad you got out of that courtship...all you needed was an 18 year old husband who loves to play cowboy.

Edited August 25, 2015 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[kalamac]

The only way this could be redeemed is if it's a prelude to the boys announcing that they are running away from the Duggar compound to join the rodeo and become actual cowboys.

Or Rodeo Clowns.

[kokapetl]

Perhaps we've overlooked the Bates country fried, western wear influence in this mess.

From Lawson's Instagram:

"You were great tonight man! Let's ride to town again sometime! #dixiestampede #trickriding"

[kokapetl]

[charmed1]

Perhaps we've overlooked the Bates country fried, western wear influence in this mess.

From Lawson's Instagram:

"You were great tonight man! Let's ride to town again sometime! #dixiestampede #trickriding"

Hee! He looks like Apollo Creed in Rocky IV. "I will break you." Edited August 25, 2015 by charmed1

[CofCinci]

Hee! He looks like Apollo Creed in Rocky IV. "I will break you."

More like Jack from Will & Grace dressed up for Fourth of July on Fire Island.

[Churchhoney]

What else do these kids have? Our kids have friends to hang out with, sports, extracurricular activities, game systems, computers -- age appropriate activities that let them develop their own identities. These kids have noting expect for brochure/packet school and renovating siblings' houses.

Are they playing "Cowboys and Indians"? They probably have no idea how that is wrong historically, culturally and politically.

While they're playing dress up, the adults are freaking the fuck out. I bet the kids have no idea that father's empire is crumbling because the are so isolated and sequestered.

 

Figured out what really bugs me about this picture. Here are all these kids, and according to their parents, they're out of school and on the "employed" list now.

 

But they've never studied Spanish or French, or world literature or history. Chemistry, biology, trigonometry, statistics, computer science. They've never run cross country or played intramural basketball. Never tried out for the baseball team or the elite jazz choir and failed to make it. Never made the group, worked for months to perfect something, and went to the county championship and won. They've never chosen a friend who wasn't introduced to them by their father because the friend's family is exactly like their family. They've never sat in classes discussing history or books with people who have completely different beliefs and backgrounds. They've never taken a class because it was something they wanted to study or chosen an activity because they really wanted to try it. Haven't had best friends and fought with them or lost them to moving or best friends who they resonate with immediately and think'll be friends for life. Haven't had teachers that they love and get inspired by and other teachers that they can't stand but have to try to get along with. They haven't gone to dances or to parties at a friend's house that got out of hand. They've never been crazy to earn money for a game system or a car and tried to get part time jobs on their own to afford it. They've never made a friend who shared their most rebellious ideas and started writing angry poetry late at night and sending bitter letters to the editor about their own personal convictions to the local newspaper. They've never met a bunch of kids from completely different neighborhoods and formed a band that tried to play cutting-edge music. They've never had three huge crushes in a row on girls who sat next to them in class. Never gotten a part-time job and then enraged the boss by being late three days in a row. They've never been asked by their homeschooling parents just what subjects they wanted to study and just how far they want to go in school ...

 

They've never done any of these things or hundreds more that form your intellect, your emotional life, your memories, your ambitions.

 

And they never will.

 

I was a completely isolated kid and never got to do any of the friend stuff either, but at least I got to take courses in all kinds of subjects, meet all kinds of teachers and talk to kids from different backgrounds in my classes. Even with all that, though, I came out of it horribly stunted. And they've totally missed even what I got. Depressing.

 

ETA: Okay, just noticed that others have said this before and better! ... Anyway, what a mess. Poor kids. And it seems as if they may not even realize what they're missing. They're set up for a very bumpy ride through life, I fear.

Edited August 25, 2015 by Churchhoney

[Wok Chop]

This reminds me of 7th grade drama class where we got into groups and had to create a music video. It was the 80s and MTV was a big thing back then.

I am so embarrassed for all of them. But it's really sad that they don't realize they should be embarrassed for themselves.

[Cherrio]

The only way this could be redeemed is if it's a prelude to the boys announcing that they are running away from the Duggar compound to join the rodeo and become actual cowboys.

Or Rodeo Clowns.

Except that takes real skill and experience and the Duggars have no skills.  Maybe picking up horse dung.   Duggar Dung Co.

[3 is enough]

Watched the video.  Certainly silly and cringe-worthy, but at least they appear to be having fun and not taking themselves seriously.

 

I guess it's a step up from running screaming through the TTH.

 

I feel so bad for these kids.  So stunted and socially awkward through no fault of their own.  They do seem to be doing the best they can with the few freedoms and education they have been allowed to have.

[sometimesy]

Where is Marjarie the saloon girl? I can't believe she gave this up to end up in obscurity. THIS! This is theatre y'all.