Ljohnson1987 October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 J'Chelle and Boob kissed before marriage. I guess it wasn't a sacred thing for them. Who cares if you kiss who you're going to marry before your wedding day? It's not going to kill you. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-504499
GEML October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 I'm sure that there are photos of the Dillard's but perhaps they have requested that those not be released to the media. And my son is in college outside of NYC, studying theatre, and sees most of the Broadway shows. When my sister went to visit, he suggested Cinderella because you can get great seats last minute for two people and it won't break the bank. Not everything is nefarious. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-504514
truthtalk2014 October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 I love that Cathy is front and center in the group picture. And very elegantly attired and accessorized I might add (typed while giving a side eye to the shiny, high-necked monstrosity to its right). THanks for posting this picture. I'm glad I finally got to see the duct tape dress MEchelle wore. I've heard people talking, but had never seen it its full glory. WOW- OMG. Where oh where did she find that??? I think it was screaming out "You will be the center of attention. You will be noticed MECHELLE! PICK ME!" Yea, she is noticed but everyone wonders if a serial killer created it. Looking at the photo, I couldn't help but wonder why Derrickdillard didn't have any friends as his groomsmen. It seems kind of sad that he only has his brother. I mean, come on, the guy went to college. He has to have some friends. I think it's greedy for all the Duggar boys to take up the spotlight. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-504598
GEML October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 There are at least three young men in the second picture who are not Duggars who obviously served as groomsmen. This is not including his brother who served as best man The first photo is simply a typical family photo where you blend both families. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-504611
Jellybeans October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 If Derrick's family had been left out of the photos, I think it would have been very insulting. As it was, a normal wedding photo with the MOTB wearing a duct tape dress. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-504734
BradandJanet October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 I'd like to think that Derrick will continue with his job for all the good reasons that people want to keep their jobs. However, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he quits it to jump on the Duggar media train. Michelle's dress looks like some kind of bad Renaissance fair costume. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-504736
Darknight October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 I'm not so sure Derick will be be using FMLA leave. Do we know when he started to work at Wal-Mart? I googled FMLA & it says the employee has to have worked at the business for at least 12 months & worked at least 1250 hours over the past 12 months. That family wedding picture is the first time I've seen Michelle's dress in its full length glory. Oh my! I agree with poster about her ta ta's. No wonder someone said she needed a more supportive undergarment when the pictures were first released after the wedding. Maybe she should get the mommy makeover. Again those dressed are horrible. I'd like to think that Derrick will continue with his job for all the good reasons that people want to keep their jobs. However, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he quits it to jump on the Duggar media train. Michelle's dress looks like some kind of bad Renaissance fair costume. Derrick seems smart, but I think money might speak louder to him than his job. If he can earn what he's earning now in a single episode or by doing interviews then the show might become more important to him. I hope not. What a waste of doing all this if he does quit. He will never leave J Bob 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-504809
abseedee October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 (edited) THanks for posting this picture. I'm glad I finally got to see the duct tape dress MEchelle wore. I've heard people talking, but had never seen it its full glory. WOW- OMG. Where oh where did she find that??? I think it was screaming out "You will be the center of attention. You will be noticed MECHELLE! PICK ME!" Yea, she is noticed but everyone wonders if a serial killer created it. Looking at the photo, I couldn't help but wonder why Derrickdillard didn't have any friends as his groomsmen. It seems kind of sad that he only has his brother. I mean, come on, the guy went to college. He has to have some friends. I think it's greedy for all the Duggar boys to take up the spotlight. Aside from Derick's brother. There was his cousin Tony, missionary friend Madison and another guy but, I'm not sure who he is. Kelly Bates rocked the same dress and I think it was a shorter version too. I don't think that dress would have worked on Mechelle no matter how it was altered. Edited October 26, 2014 by abseedee Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-504816
Darknight October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 J'Chelle and Boob kissed before marriage. I guess it wasn't a sacred thing for them. Who cares if you kiss who you're going to marry before your wedding day? It's not going to kill you. They also held hands, dated, all without chaperones. According to them kiss is sex and can stir up desires. Seems to me they teach their kids no self control. Jill saying I love you to a man she hardly knows. Getting engaged, dating married all in a few months just looks like these kids can't control themselves 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-504820
cereality October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 Good to see Jill broadening her horizons. She just posted on IG that last night was a date night for her and Derick in Queens (NYC) at a Nepali/Tibetian restaurant. Good for her. Derick lived on Nepali fare for like 2 yrs and I doubt he can get it anywhere near Arkansas, so nice that they took advantage of that while in NYC. It was good to see that she was willing to go rather than turning up her nose like many/most of her siblings would and insisting that they just get pizza, burgers, steak and potatoes etc. If these two can get a little separation from JB and Michelle, they can carve out a nice fundie-lite type of life for themselves -- much like Josh and Anna have in DC though probably even more "wordly" since Derick has a college education, lived abroad etc. I'm sure Derick doesn't want to leave his mom and brother, but once his mom is fully recovered, if I were Derick, I'd be looking to see if there were accounting opportunities that could bring me to NYC or DC. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-504867
BradandJanet October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 I hope that photo of his mother-in-law in the silver dress gives Derrick pause: thirty years and twenty children from now, Jill could look just like that. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-504881
BitterApple October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 I'd like to think that Derrick will continue with his job for all the good reasons that people want to keep their jobs. However, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he quits it to jump on the Duggar media train. Me neither. I don't think he's particularly invested in his Wal-Mart job because he knows he'll always be able to find employment thanks to Boob's connections. Josh managed to secure himself a cushy job and he barely has a GED. I think Derick will jump on the fame whore train full time, especially when Baby Dill Pickle is born. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-504890
Fuzzysox October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 (edited) You all better not be making fun of my duck tape dress that I have been working on for weeks now! It's sooooo pretty and blingy. Can't wait to show it off! Who else thinks MEchelle will wear it for the Binessa wedding? Edited October 26, 2014 by Fuzzysox 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-504971
floridamom October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 Had to comment one more time about that awful shiny silver gown Michele chose....If she is anything, she is a DDD cup at least. The seams and folds in the "bra area" of that dress dart her out and give her "points" on her breasts. Something Madonna did in the 80s, wasn't it? Remember the torpedo "bra" she wore on stage? Oh, that gown was awful, uncomfortable looking to wear especially in the summer. I bet she was sweating all day. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-504975
cereality October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 Me neither. I don't think he's particularly invested in his Wal-Mart job because he knows he'll always be able to find employment thanks to Boob's connections. Josh managed to secure himself a cushy job and he barely has a GED. I think Derick will jump on the fame whore train full time, especially when Baby Dill Pickle is born. I think once the baby is born a few things will happen. Jill will complain a LOT about how it's SO unfair that he's gone 40 hrs a week (plus his minimal commute time). She has already said that it's not "acceptable" that he's gone that much now and they "disagree" on that point. That complaining will just continue after kid nos. 1, 2, 3 etc. She has never seen her dad or brothers go off to work for a 40 hr week job. She's always lived in a family where people come and go as they please all day long, and she will think it's "unfair" that WMT pulls him away for so many hours. While Josh is working 40 hrs a week now, she's not in DC to witness that and when Josh and Anna married -- he worked at a car dealership which pretty much opened on Duggar time and then a few hours after opening when Anna got "bored" or "overwhelmed" at home, she could just show up with the kids and hang out in the back room. I bet Jill will think that's the type of flexible job Derick should have. With enough complaining from Jill and Derick's propensity to listen to JB (bc I'm sure Jill will tell JB to work on him), I could see Derick switching over to a created role with JB's "company," maybe doing some bookkeeping re the rental properties and spending the rest of his time seeking out and preparing for speaking opportunities -- whether it's people or churches in the south willing to host them or fundie conferences or whatever. Derick may feel uneasy leaving Walmart, but I think he will leave thinking -- if this doesn't work out, I can always get a regular job again; my college degree isn't going anywhere, and now lots of people in Ark. know my name bc of the Duggars. I'm not suggesting that he could necessarily get back with Walmart, but if cash were to get tight or the media train were to die down, I still think he'd be ok because I have a feeling that MANY people all over Arkansas watch or at least know of the Duggars. Having married into that and been featured all over the show, he's no longer just some 25 yr old college grad with a yr's work experience; he now has that "interest" factor which would lead a small/medium sized company to call him in for an interview if he were to apply just because they'd be flattered by his interest in them. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-505012
Darknight October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 (edited) I think once the baby is born a few things will happen. Jill will complain a LOT about how it's SO unfair that he's gone 40 hrs a week (plus his minimal commute time). She has already said that it's not "acceptable" that he's gone that much now and they "disagree" on that point. That complaining will just continue after kid nos. 1, 2, 3 etc. She has never seen her dad or brothers go off to work for a 40 hr week job. She's always lived in a family where people come and go as they please all day long, and she will think it's "unfair" that WMT pulls him away for so many hours. While Josh is working 40 hrs a week now, she's not in DC to witness that and when Josh and Anna married -- he worked at a car dealership which pretty much opened on Duggar time and then a few hours after opening when Anna got "bored" or "overwhelmed" at home, she could just show up with the kids and hang out in the back room. I bet Jill will think that's the type of flexible job Derick should have. With enough complaining from Jill and Derick's propensity to listen to JB (bc I'm sure Jill will tell JB to work on him), I could see Derick switching over to a created role with JB's "company," maybe doing some bookkeeping re the rental properties and spending the rest of his time seeking out and preparing for speaking opportunities -- whether it's people or churches in the south willing to host them or fundie conferences or whatever. Derick may feel uneasy leaving Walmart, but I think he will leave thinking -- if this doesn't work out, I can always get a regular job again; my college degree isn't going anywhere, and now lots of people in Ark. know my name bc of the Duggars. I'm not suggesting that he could necessarily get back with Walmart, but if cash were to get tight or the media train were to die down, I still think he'd be ok because I have a feeling that MANY people all over Arkansas watch or at least know of the Duggars. Having married into that and been featured all over the show, he's no longer just some 25 yr old college grad with a yr's work experience; he now has that "interest" factor which would lead a small/medium sized company to call him in for an interview if he were to apply just because they'd be flattered by his interest in them. But if Derrick's job doesn't want the publicity? And isn't Jill suppose to follow her headship? She's suppose to agree with whatever he says and make him happy. That's what she's trained from birth to do. I don't understand how she can be bored all day. With a baby coming and probably a few more to come I bet she would be wishing to have some peace to herself. Edited October 26, 2014 by Darknight 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-505021
lottiedottie October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 Maybe she should get the mommy makeover. Again those dressed are horrible. Derrick seems smart, but I think money might speak louder to him than his job. If he can earn what he's earning now in a single episode or by doing interviews then the show might become more important to him. I hope not. What a waste of doing all this if he does quit. He will never leave J Bob Especially if the money means he'll have a more flexible schedule and more time to do what he wants. I'm sure he thinks it would be neat and awesome to spend every waking moment with Jilly Muffin. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-505149
Joe Jitsu913 October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 But if Derrick's job doesn't want the publicity? And isn't Jill suppose to follow her headship? She's suppose to agree with whatever he says and make him happy. That's what she's trained from birth to do. I don't understand how she can be bored all day. With a baby coming and probably a few more to come I bet she would be wishing to have some peace to herself. I don't understand how Jill can be bored all day either. I would love to have the free time she has. I would get so much done. I'd work out, meditate, clean, cook, read books, go for a walk, shopping, drink wine etc. Instead, I must work a boring office job to support myself. Does she realize how lucky she is? She could even finish her studies while Derrick is away. How boring her life must be. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-505191
GEML October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 I still think that Derrick, scarred as he is by his father's death at such a young age, will choose a secure job over the Dugger circus financially. Especially since he was close to his father and obviously admires him and probably respects the role of being the family provider. My own husband comes from a similar situation (his firefighter father died when he was 12) and the security factor is ENORMOUS to him. Especially with a child on the way, that won't be tossed aside lightly. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-505310
BradandJanet October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 I still think that Derrick, scarred as he is by his father's death at such a young age, will choose a secure job over the Dugger circus financially. Especially since he was close to his father and obviously admires him and probably respects the role of being the family provider. My own husband comes from a similar situation (his firefighter father died when he was 12) and the security factor is ENORMOUS to him. Especially with a child on the way, that won't be tossed aside lightly. I hope Derrick understands the long-term security of steady job. However, he has apparently sought out JB as a father figure, who will certainly tell him that his mundane office job will not allow the mission work and and other responsibilities that his important new role will need. I think it will be hard for Derrick to fight the pull of the Duggar empire. If he's not already out of Walmart, my guess it will soon be after Baby Dill Pickle is born. However, I think the show will continue to let us assume that Derrick works at a regular job. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-505359
Jellybeans October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 I am waiting to see what choices Jill and Derrick make. For some reason I think Derrick is going to be more than JB expected...especially when his son arrives. I think Jill is in for a surprise but it might be a pleasant one over time. Freedom from her parents can be quite intoxicating. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-505378
GEML October 26, 2014 Share October 26, 2014 I'll be the first to say that Derrick admires JB quite a bit. But more as a father and spiritual person, I think, than perhaps as a husband. This is, after all, someone who had his wife living in a tiny home overrun with children to the point where she felt on the point of breakdown over it. If Derrick died today (and I bet he thinks about this) he doesn't have lots of rental property and a trust and cell phone towers to support his wife and child. And for all the talk of him taking time off, so far the only time we know he took off was the honeymoon and a long weekend in NYC. That's not unusual. For all JB's talk, his oldest son works full time for someone else, his second son seems to genuinely have a successful business (that's about the only positive I can say about the otherwise unfortunate John David) and his son-in-law works for America's largest company. No one but JB is relying on the show for their main support - perhaps because JB is cheap and doesn't share with others. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-505424
Mrsjumbo October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 I don't understand how Jill can be bored all day either. I would love to have the free time she has. I would get so much done. I'd work out, meditate, clean, cook, read books, go for a walk, shopping, drink wine etc. Instead, I must work a boring office job to support myself. Does she realize how lucky she is? She could even finish her studies while Derrick is away. How boring her life must be. I SAH after I had my twins. I just recently got a P/T job. But I was a SAHM for 14 years & can honestly say I was never bored! Mr Jumbo travels occasionally for his work, so many many times it was just me & the kids. Maybe because I worked from age 15-37, the freedom of staying at home & taking the kids where I wanted, when I wanted, was so enjoyable. And there was always something to do. Maybe she's bored because she cannot pop a movie in or watch tv, or read a novel. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-505444
mythoughtis October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 I am wondering what Jill might have thought about the Cinderella play that Derick took her to. I wonder if she has heard of the internet comparison of Jana to Cinderella, and what she thinks now that she know who Cinderella is. I am happy to see that Derick took her somewhere that Jim Bob would never let her go. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-505499
wanderwoman October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 Did Jill actually complain of boredom somewhere or is it just conjecture? No matter who you are or how many siblings you had, marriage is an adjustment. Going from a household of 23+ to 2 is also an adjustment. If she's bored, she should use the time to further her education or try a hobby she wasn't able to do previously. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-505991
MLE October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 I don't see Derick leaving walmart until he and Jill (and whatever children they have) leave the country for a mission. If I remember correctly, before he locked down social media, his FB indicated that he was also doing an MA? Mdiv? in ministry. I'd bet he's completing that while working for Walmart. Yes, Derick is embracing the duggar way a lot, but he's also pretty practical and seems to have a pretty set path he's working towards (marrying a duggar being a big part of it.) And I don't see JB pushing him to leave walmart, either. He's a lot of things, but flat out dumb isn't one of them.. He knows what Derick working a steady, regular person job can give Jill (who is obviously the favorite.) Along with letting them live in the house he did... I almost feel like that is JB's way of trying to make-good, after where they lived before the big house. Michelle might never admit it, but JB seems to acknowledge who has been raising their younger kids. He wants good things for Jill, and Derick staying at Walmart for now gets her that, while not losing her they way he's begining to w/ Josh & Anna.. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-507005
GEML October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 I agree. I don't think JB wants the responsibility of trying to support someone like Derrick. He failed trying to support Josh and Anna - say what you will, the car lot in Arkansas wasn't enough for them and they left. And they don't have an education the way Derrick does. Pulling Derrick into his sphere of influence is one thing. Making him financially dependent upon him is a huge risk. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-507542
NausetGirl October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 I still think that Derrick, scarred as he is by his father's death at such a young age, will choose a secure job over the Dugger circus financially. Especially since he was close to his father and obviously admires him and probably respects the role of being the family provider. My own husband comes from a similar situation (his firefighter father died when he was 12) and the security factor is ENORMOUS to him. Especially with a child on the way, that won't be tossed aside lightly. SO hope you are right, GEML. But I suspect that both Boob and Jill are very persuasive and could talk him into leaving WalMart. He's college-educated and been out in the world, yes. But I also don't see any evidence that Derick is particularly-determined or strong-willed either. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-507705
MamaR October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 I agree that Jill and her sisters have been raised to 'obey' and follow their husbands but I really believe that money will always come before religion and family for them. If the Duggars think that Derek should quit his job for the sake of the show then they will push for that regardless of what Derek-the husband, head of the household believes. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-507765
Clemgo3165 October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 But I also don't see any evidence that Derick is particularly-determined or strong-willed either. Isn't Derick the one who put himself through college, landing with a degree and debt-free? And then spent two years on a mission halfway across the world? He seems pretty determined to me, he's just not aggressive about it. Frankly I think Jill won the husband-material lottery with him. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-507889
Rhondinella October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 Please no more discussion here of Michelle's monstrosity of a wedding dress. Take that to the Michelle and JimBob thread. Thanks. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-508128
NausetGirl October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 (edited) I SAH after I had my twins. I just recently got a P/T job. But I was a SAHM for 14 years & can honestly say I was never bored! Mr Jumbo travels occasionally for his work, so many many times it was just me & the kids. Maybe because I worked from age 15-37, the freedom of staying at home & taking the kids where I wanted, when I wanted, was so enjoyable. And there was always something to do. Maybe she's bored because she cannot pop a movie in or watch tv, or read a novel. Don't understand the boredom either. Doesn't she have a fairly-massive house to keep clean? Doesn't she want to whip up wonderful meals for her man using some of those many wedding presents? Isn't that what she was trained for since toddlerhood? To be a homemaker and mother? On a truly practical note, has she finished all those thank-you notes already? Unless I was tacky enough to send a computer-generated form thank you, I'm pretty sure I'd still be working on them with the number of presents she received. Seriously, I think the reality here is that Jill's experience has been very different from the many of us. She has no memories of seeing a father leave for a job every day - he came and went as he pleased most of her life. And she never saw her mother be a SAHM in the traditional sense either. I wonder what will happen when the baby's born and she has to cope with both him and a large home herself. Maybe they'll have hired help. Maybe they even have it now. I wish I could say Jill and Derick are going to be happy in the long run, but I don't really think they will be unless they break the Duggar version of Gothardism. Something we see no evidence of at this point. If Derick does indeed plan on being his own man, he needs to make that clear to both his wife and his in-laws very soon. If not, they will be completely justified in thinking what Boob has felt all along, that he's on board with their whole deal. Edited October 27, 2014 by NausetGirl 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-508135
PityFree October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 Jill has never before been alone. Not in her own bed, not in her own room, not in a car, and possibly not even in the shower. It must freak her out to be alone in that house. Maybe she is mistaking freaking out for being bored? 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-508163
Almost 3000 October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 Don't understand the boredom either. Doesn't she have a fairly-massive house to keep clean? Doesn't she want to whip up wonderful meals for her man using some of those many wedding presents? Isn't that what she was trained for since toddlerhood? To be a homemaker and mother? On a truly practical note, has she finished all those thank-you notes already? Unless I was tacky enough to send a computer-generated form thank you, I'm pretty sure I'd still be working on them with the number of presents she received. Seriously, I think the reality here is that Jill's experience has been very different from the many of us. She has no memories of seeing a father leave for a job every day - he came and went as he pleased most of her life. And she never saw her mother be a SAHM in the traditional sense either. I wonder what will happen when the baby's born and she has to cope with both him and a large home herself. Maybe they'll have hired help. Maybe they even have it now. I wish I could say Jill and Derick are going to be happy in the long run, but I don't really think they will be unless they break the Duggar version of Gothardism. Something we see no evidence of at this point. If Derick does indeed plan on being his own man, he needs to make that clear to both his wife and his in-laws very soon. If not, they will be completely justified in thinking what Boob has felt all along, that he's on board with their whole deal. Speaking of wedding registries I'm kinda surprised there isn't a way to acknowledge receipt of the gift using the gift/registry system. You select from "Thank You" type artwork, fonts and colors and just thank anyone who left e-mail/whatever contact info with their purchase of your gift. I've sent e-gift cards several times and never got acknowledgement of the gift and frankly since it was an e-vitation in the first place I would have loved an e-thank you. At least I would have known they got it. I'm hoping Jill addresses the massive amount of gifts they received after the wedding episode because the silence makes them look bad. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-508192
Jellybeans October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 Has Jill said she is bored? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-508427
Almost 3000 October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 Thank you! ~ I don't think Jill ever said she was bored. She just has mentioned going to see/lunch with Derick at work and I think there was something that sounded like a bit of a whine that he was at work to much. The silence must be deafening around casa Dill during the week days. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-508482
kaleidoscope October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 They have a "covenant marriage" making divorce more difficult? http://www.people.com/article/jill-duggar-dillard-derick-covenant-marriage Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-508494
mimionthebeach October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 Maybe she's just feeling "at a loose end". She's probably never in her life had to find something to do during the day, never had so much time to do what she wants. She so at a loss she doesn't know what she wants to do. These kids are prevented from taking up activities that take time away from the family so they haven't managed to develop their own personality to the point of knowing what interests them on their own. At the very best, they've been able to choose from a short list of proscribed options. Sad. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-508499
Sew Sumi October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 Unless one is trapped in an abusive situation, don't most couples try counseling before calling it quits? And many couples (myself included) had pre-marital counseling that involved an actual PASTOR, not our parents! Sorry Jill, you're just not that special or superior to the rest of mankind. I alsoo loved how the article aged Boob and Mullet up a year. I guess Jerick don't care, as long as People cuts them the check. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-508520
NausetGirl October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 Jill has never before been alone. Not in her own bed, not in her own room, not in a car, and possibly not even in the shower. It must freak her out to be alone in that house. Maybe she is mistaking freaking out for being bored? Jill is definitely undergoing a transition. She went from being constantly surrounded by family to basically on her own during the weekdays. She may well be freaking out to some extent. But she is the one who used the word "bored." If something else is going on, she needs to be clear about it - in order to get the right help. Or at least to be understood... Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-508543
NausetGirl October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 Has Jill said she is bored? From comments I've read here, it was my understanding that she did - but I don't have a source to cite. Personally I believe she IS bored. But maybe we're reading too much into things. I must admit I don't know any other newly-married women who repeatedly call, text, e-mail etc their husbands during the workday. Of course, all the newlyweds I've been acquainted with have BOTH been working people. Does anyone else know a bride who - in the last 20-30 years - never worked outside the home before marriage? Or quit working immediately after the wedding to stay home? My mother was married in 1955 and it was very routine then. But these days? Definitely an exception, I'd say. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-508612
Mariva October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 Thank you! ~ I don't think Jill ever said she was bored. She just has mentioned going to see/lunch with Derick at work and I think there was something that sounded like a bit of a whine that he was at work to much. The silence must be deafening around casa Dill during the week days. I still think that was just a cutesy joke attempt on her part. Also keep in mind that TH everyone keeps referring to as "evidence" Jill doesn't want Derick to work took place BEFORE they got married and started living together. Isn't it possible that now that they're married Jill has come to accept her husband having a full-time job and how that's not such a bad thing after all even if he's gone for most of the day because at least it allows them financial security? On the topic of whether or not Jill is bored at home, I read an interview where she admitted to crying because she felt "lazy" while she was stuck in bed suffering from bad morning sickness. So yeah, I think she was bored but it was NOT because she couldn't find anything to do. Rather it was because she literally couldn't do anything, she was so sick. Honestly I felt bad for her at that moment. She has never known anything else but to work hard all her life taking care of her siblings and whatever else her parents demanded of her. Unlike some of her siblings (like Jessa for example), who has gone about their jurisdictions somewhat reluctantly and with as many shortcuts as possible, Jill has been the rare one who took her duties seriously. She just seems to have that very driven, eager to please personality. Derick and her mom had to reassure her that it was okay for her to take it easy once in a while and focus on herself (and now her baby). I don't buy that Jill's the type to sit around at home twiddling her thumbs in boredom until Derick got home. If she's able and feeing healthy I think she would find plenty to keep herself busy, whether that's trying out new recipes, catching up with friends & family (Amy has mentioned visiting her several times) or *gasp* maybe even continuing her midwife studies. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-508647
Absolom October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 I only know one couple where the bride expected so much contact with her husband. It's another situation of very much an exception to normal though. I think Jill simply has little idea of the real world and what most people do who are not thoroughly into Gothard I hope she learns that there is nothing wrong with Derrick working soon. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-508686
Darknight October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 I agree. I don't think JB wants the responsibility of trying to support someone like Derrick. He failed trying to support Josh and Anna - say what you will, the car lot in Arkansas wasn't enough for them and they left. And they don't have an education the way Derrick does. Pulling Derrick into his sphere of influence is one thing. Making him financially dependent upon him is a huge risk. How much was Josh making at the car lot? And what happened to it now. I remember they also use to post on social media to come to the lot to get a car. Jill has never before been alone. Not in her own bed, not in her own room, not in a car, and possibly not even in the shower. It must freak her out to be alone in that house. Maybe she is mistaking freaking out for being bored? I would think she would enjoy going from sharing a room with 9 sisters all different ages, taking care of them and a household, and being alone getting to do whatever she wants when she wants. Must be some adjustment. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-508763
Almost 3000 October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 I still think that was just a cutesy joke attempt on her part. Also keep in mind that TH everyone keeps referring to as "evidence" Jill doesn't want Derick to work took place BEFORE they got married and started living together. Isn't it possible that now that they're married Jill has come to accept her husband having a full-time job and how that's not such a bad thing after all even if he's gone for most of the day because at least it allows them financial security? On the topic of whether or not Jill is bored at home, I read an interview where she admitted to crying because she felt "lazy" while she was stuck in bed suffering from bad morning sickness. So yeah, I think she was bored but it was NOT because she couldn't find anything to do. Rather it was because she literally couldn't do anything, she was so sick. Honestly I felt bad for her at that moment. She has never known anything else but to work hard all her life taking care of her siblings and whatever else her parents demanded of her. Unlike some of her siblings (like Jessa for example), who has gone about their jurisdictions somewhat reluctantly and with as many shortcuts as possible, Jill has been the rare one who took her duties seriously. She just seems to have that very driven, eager to please personality. Derick and her mom had to reassure her that it was okay for her to take it easy once in a while and focus on herself (and now her baby). I don't buy that Jill's the type to sit around at home twiddling her thumbs in boredom until Derick got home. If she's able and feeing healthy I think she would find plenty to keep herself busy, whether that's trying out new recipes, catching up with friends & family (Amy has mentioned visiting her several times) or *gasp* maybe even continuing her midwife studies. OK, thx now that makes more sense. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-508788
Darknight October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 They have a "covenant marriage" making divorce more difficult? http://www.people.com/article/jill-duggar-dillard-derick-covenant-marriage JUST to show how better they are than regular people. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-508791
Fuzzysox October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 If you read that article in People you'll quickly figure out that Cathy Derick's mother is very similar in beliefs as the krazy Duggars. Didn't she say that it was better to only date one girl because it would cost less money then dating around? She might be progressive because she actually held a job but this covenant marriage bs goes to show how brainwashed they all are. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-508888
alt0233 October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 Eh, over the summer I went from working full time to being a full time SAHM to our baby and I totally gchatted my husband all the time and my son and I joined him to work for lunch once or twice a week. I needed to find my groove and until then he was my rock. Since then I've found a part time job (I discovered I'm not cut out to be a full time SAHM) and have found a mom group, so I definitely gchat and visit him for lunch less - but we still gchat once or twice on most days, and we meet him for lunch maybe twice a month. I don't think taking during the day or meeting up occasionally is a problem unless it's interfering with his work. Most people I know who work desk jobs are constantly logged into gchat or something similar and use it daily (not all day every day, but occasionally throughout the day every day) and some places of work are really family friendly - there are always families or partners or friends around during lunch time when I visit my husband. There's a balance to be found and while it's possible that Jill is overdoing it, her life has changed drastically (and is about to change again drastically) so I don't think her response is necessarily so unusual. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-508927
alt0233 October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 If you read that article in People you'll quickly figure out that Cathy Derick's mother is very similar in beliefs as the krazy Duggars. Didn't she say that it was better to only date one girl because it would cost less money then dating around? She might be progressive because she actually held a job but this covenant marriage bs goes to show how brainwashed they all are. I totally Instagram-stalked Derrick's brother's girlfriend, and she was in a sorority and works in higher education (and wears shorts!!!!), so at least she's way more progressive than the Duggars. But before she locked down her Facebook Cathy did have Answers in Genesis among her likes, so that's a point on the super fundy side. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-508945
Darknight October 27, 2014 Share October 27, 2014 If you read that article in People you'll quickly figure out that Cathy Derick's mother is very similar in beliefs as the krazy Duggars. Didn't she say that it was better to only date one girl because it would cost less money then dating around? She might be progressive because she actually held a job but this covenant marriage bs goes to show how brainwashed they all are. I think Cathy is trying to use her words more carefully since the Duggars are serious about this courtship stuff 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/55/#findComment-509025
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