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Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!


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3 hours ago, Fosca said:

I'm very interested to hear where he landed, because I can't imagine any place other than a severely conservative company would be interested in someone with the past history and beliefs that Derick has.  Not to mention all of the people who will be calling hoping to "inform" on him, like they do with companies that Jessa and Jinjer hook up with.  Hopefully he fully disclosed what is likely to happen.

Well, it is Arkansas. And there are a lot of conservative Christians in Arkansas. Almost half the state identifies that way, pretty much.  And all those people have businesses and law firms and nonprofits and everything else, just like people who aren't conservative Christians. 

I imagine Der would greatly prefer to work for people who are part of the culture he identifies with and would probably look for a workplace where he'd feel at home in that way. I'd be surprised if he didn't. I don't think that has to mean anybody who's setting up Gilead in their office or anything, though. Just because Der and Jill seem to hold to their old beliefs doesn't mean they're any longer really extreme and aggressive holders of those beliefs, though. They may have softened their approaches (or not, of course). Not everybody stays as loudly zealous as they were in their 20s when they wanted to be missionaries for life. 

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8 hours ago, hathorlive said:

And I hope he keeps saying this in reference to where they move and where he is working.  Nobody needs to know, Derrick.

This would be ideal, but unlikely. It’s pretty easy to gather such information. The fact Jill linked their realtor in her moving announcement, she put their current address out there herself. 🤷🏼‍♀️ It was already easy to get, but she provided it.

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Although I know I'm in the minority, but I feel Jill needs a lot of attention and adulation, so she'll at least make public a PO box in order to get "happy mail". That most likely will reveal the town/city they're in, or at the very least, the area. Jill will make some posts asking for attention/gift cards tips on restaurants in the area. She'll lament on being, say, 3 hours away from family.

Derick will likely update his LinkedIn, so there's that.

And then there's the stupid stuff they (and many) parents do like post their school, where they're taking swimming lessons or some neighborhood park event.

But I think Derick has a love-hate relationship with their followers and Jill has a love-love one, so I don't think they'll be looking to fade away.

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10 hours ago, ginger90 said:

This would be ideal, but unlikely. It’s pretty easy to gather such information. The fact Jill linked their realtor in her moving announcement, she put their current address out there herself. 🤷🏼‍♀️ It was already easy to get, but she provided it.

As do many (most?) states, the Arkansas judicial department maintains an online searchable listing of persons admitted to practice law in that state. I'm not going to link to it, but I found it, and Derick is listed. At this time it lists his home address - but I believe that once he starts work, his work address will be provided to the attorney registration office and the online listing will show that address. Allowing for some lag time for system updates to run.

(Note: in my state, we must provide to the attorney registration office our office and home addresses. The public facing data will show our office/business address but not our home address - unless of course someone wants to use their home address as also their business address which I think is rare. If we are not practicing law, or retired, we don't have to furnish an office address, and we may designate our home address as private. In that case there isn't an address or phone number shown on the public searchable database, just our name and basic information such as status and date of admission. I suppose Derick has an option to not have his home address displayed on the database but didn't choose it. Or - Arkansas may be behind the curve on privacy matters and requires an address to be publicly displayed for a lawyer even if the only one they have is a home address. Urgh.)

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25 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

As do many (most?) states, the Arkansas judicial department maintains an online searchable listing of persons admitted to practice law in that state. I'm not going to link to it, but I found it, and Derick is listed. At this time it lists his home address - but I believe that once he starts work, his work address will be provided to the attorney registration office and the online listing will show that address. Allowing for some lag time for system updates to run.

(Note: in my state, we must provide to the attorney registration office our office and home addresses. If we are not practicing law, or retired, we don't have to furnish an office address and we may designate our home address as private. In that case there isn't an address or phone number shown on the public searchable database, just our name and basic information such as status and date of admission. I suppose Derick has an option to not have his home address displayed on the database but didn't choose it. Or - Arkansas may be behind the curve on privacy matters and requires an address to be publicly displayed for a lawyer even if the only one they have is a home address. Urgh.)

That's similar for licensed social workers and anyone who is a health care provider, we are assigned NPI#s, which are public knowledge. 

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Weird, they don't show the guest room or the garage in the house listing. Maybe they're over stuffed with the Dillard's belongings.

Jill has dried (dead?) flower arrangements on top of every single cabinet. Not only are they ugly, but I'm sure the dust they collect doesn't help Sammy's allergies.

Oh and BTW, the photos are not in black and white (and beige), they just look that way, lol.

Came back to add, I never realized how small their house is. With the extra bathroom and extra bedrooms its larger than Jessa's, but the living room and kitchen aren't much bigger.

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“ Knowing” their house from posts of theirs, the pictures were pretty good. There’s some “stuff”  I would have eliminated in them, but it looked like a home. I’ve seen listings  that look so freaking staged, that they come across as  fake, and would come under false advertising in my mind. Then there are the stretched out pictures that are an attempt to make rooms appear larger than they are. I saw one of a kitchen once, and the photo made the refrigerator look bigger than any known in real life because of that.

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1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

“ Knowing” their house from posts of theirs, the pictures were pretty good. There’s some “stuff”  I would have eliminated in them, but it looked like a home. I’ve seen listings  that look so freaking staged, that they come across as  fake, and would come under false advertising in my mind. Then there are the stretched out pictures that are an attempt to make rooms appear larger than they are. I saw one of a kitchen once, and the photo made the refrigerator look bigger than any known in real life because of that.

I agree with this. When we were searching the first house we visited had great photos, looked amazing. We got there and yeah, everything was way smaller, finishes were cheap and cheap looking.  On the flip, the home we did buy, I didn’t even want to look at it based on the photos, but our realtor said to give it a try. I knew pulling into the driveway it was the home for us. The neighborhood was beautiful and the online photos did not do the home justice at all. The finishes were much higher quality, it was just the previous owner had a very eclectic style, so a lot of cosmetic changes were needed. This was at the bottom of the housing market, so buyers had tons of options, and anything not move in ready sat for months .

Homes are selling so fast that everyone I know who’s sold in the past year was basically told they could list as is with minimal staging. The Dillard’s home looks like a very basic standard newer build. Nothing remarkable but oki Obviously good enough to get an offer quick.

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Its funny - J & D have their kids exploring sports because Derick did. While I think its beyond beneficial to participate in sports whether one is good or not, it made me wonder if Derick's lack of coordination is due to shiny new things or does he just not have an athletic bone in his body?

Shiny new thing genes and the Duggar I'm an expert after 5 minutes genes could prove to be a disastrous mix. 

I hope if the boys find a hobby or sport they like, they'll be allowed to pursue it beyond look a squirrel with nut thingies🐿️😁

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1 hour ago, emmawoodhouse said:

That'll be a tough one. They have the holier than thou Covenant Marriage. 🙄

Covenant marriage doesn't preclude divorce.  It just takes a couple of extra steps and a bit more time to achieve or at least one of the parties moving out of state.  

Although I don't see these two divorcing any time soon.  They seem to have worked through many of their differences seem rather settled with each other.  

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5 minutes ago, Absolom said:

Covenant marriage doesn't preclude divorce.  It just takes a couple of extra steps and a bit more time to achieve or at least one of the parties moving out of state.  

Although I don't see these two divorcing any time soon.  They seem to have worked through many of their differences seem rather settled with each other.  

There are only a handful of reasons they can divorce. Derelict could use Jill as a punching bag, but they'd still have to adhere to Covenant Marriage divorce protocol, which takes years. 

Yes, couples can divorce, but not before incurring a drawn out timeline and unnecessary expenses. 

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With physical abuse you don't have to wait two years, but you do have to do marriage counseling.  You don't have to live together while you wait.

Alternatively, one could move to Oklahoma or Tennessee or almost any other state, establish residency, and file there.  

Yes, I think it's ludicrous to go back to the way divorce laws were before no fault.  Even with no fault, it takes six months to a year in many states anyway.  

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34 minutes ago, Madtown said:

Their house has a pending offer on it. Zillow says the listing was removed on April 19th and that it's off the market. So not sure what is going on. Normally you don't remove a listing until the house is actually sold/closed on. Our realtor left the for sale sign up(with the sold sign on it)until we were officially closed.

That’s how Zillow has it. In other places it says, under contract, or pending.

The sign may still be up with one of those on it.

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