Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

[GeeGolly]

Re-watching/listening to the last episode. Anna just said that Josh "Is at a Christian recovery program." It sounded like, for a second, like a place to go to recover from being Christian.

[juneday]

Holy crap. I haven't visited this forum in a few months or watched/read anything to do with the Duggars (which has honestly helped my sanity a bit lol) but I was watching dateline on TLC last night and saw a commercial for that new show with Jessa and Jinger. So I came on here to read and saw Josh cheated on Anna with a prostitute?!? What??? I have definitely missed a lot!

[JoanArc]

Holy crap. I haven't visited this forum in a few months or watched/read anything to do with the Duggars (which has honestly helped my sanity a bit lol) but I was watching dateline on TLC last night and saw a commercial for that new show with Jessa and Jinger. So I came on here to read and saw Josh cheated on Anna with a prostitute?!? What??? I have definitely missed a lot!

Molested 4 sisters and one other girl, then cheated with two prostitutes and another unnamed woman. One prostitute is suing - the sex was rough.

 

Michelle and Jim Bob are surprised they raised screwed up kids. Go figure.

[Vermicious Knid]

I told Mr Evenstar that she was either coerced by Boob for the cameras, she's a complete and utter doormat and a fool, or she's a better person than any of us.

 

She's a brainwashed doormat. This is what she has been taught since birth, and leaving/divorcing/objecting to her husband goes against those beliefs, and would turn her community against her. Also remember to them, everyone else is Other and in league with Satan. Anna won't do anything.

 

Regarding the discussion of love upthread, I don't think either of them know what love is. Anna 'loves' Josh because this is the mate her parents chose and presented to her as a right and Godly man and she loves him because she and everyone expects her to. Josh went through the motions of being a husband and father because again, he was expected to and this was the woman he could freely have acceptable sex with and was supposed to solve all his problems.

 

 

 

[Arwen Evenstar]

Yes, raised in a family absolutely sex-obsessed + the quivers expected to constantly be Ma and Pa's show ponies that reflect their parents' moral superiority - an obvious recipe for disaster. Yet Ma and Pa remain clueless and more interested in continuance of their prideful show of 'WE ARE CHRISTIAN' than actually LEARNING anything from this horrific situation for which THEY so self righteously set the stage.

Ignorance, thy name is Duggar.

Great posts FIF...I think the prideful Duggar show is really called...WE ARE MORE CHRISTIAN THAN ANYBODY ELSE!

You also nailed it when you said the Duggar courtships are to prevent pre-marital sex since there's no way they're allowed to figure out if it's The One God Has for You or the one Daady decides he's gonna marry you off to.

I've no doubt Anna is a brainwashed doormat, but she's still a better person than I'd ever be just to be able to keep up such a nauseating façade. If she truly has the capacity to forgive him of her own free will was what I should've posted....but wer'e talking about Gothard wives here who simper at their headship like a cocker spaniel that just peed on the floor...not only does she have to be joyfully available for Mr Smug and Pasty but also endure what the rest of us know about his "bedroom skills"

[greenturtle36]

Well said.

Duggar courtship is all about preventing premarital sex, rather than a process to help a young person develop the skill to determine if this relationship is a viable candidate for marriage. Since Duggar types are rigidly molded into their parents' concept of 'godly' (whatever that means), and given a strict a) b) c) checklist of spousal required traits, the Duggarettes have no idea who or what they, as mature individuals, want in a marital partner.

Anna is doing the only thing she's comfortable doing, which is to cling to her 'godliness' by following the simplistic Gothard Formula For Life. AND she's willing to continue making her plight public, which is tacky at best.

Though I'm sure it's important to her to feel she's leading us all by her 'godly' example, many of us non believing, evil OTHERS, quietly and shunning a public spotlight, ethically handle marital difficulties, including infidelity. We simply do not constantly remind others of our personal trials and tribulations while waving our 'I ❤️ Jesus' flag in everyone's face.

Oh god.  I know what she's trying to do... create a "ministry" by showing everyone what Jesus can do to a wretched evil sinner, Fireproof style... See, if she leaves him, imagine the millions of people who will never receive the message of Jesus through her endurance of suffering... puke!

[Arwen Evenstar]

Yep, prepareth for The Grand Duggar Redemption Tour. Amazing Grace will be the theme song.

Yep, prepareth for The Grand Duggar Redemption Tour. Amazing Grace will be the theme song.

That's right FIF..Entertainment for the Redemption Tour will be provided by the Howlers and their screechy violins.

Edited December 29, 2015 by Arwen Evenstar

[Fuzzysox]

That's right FIF..Entertainment for the Redemption Tour will be provided by the Howlers and their screechy violins.

Andddddddd Josie will be front and center singing Amazing Grace.

[JoanArc]

All Anna's done is bought herself time. Inside of five years she'll be back exactly where she is now. Josh is not getting real help. He will act out again; count on (teehee) it. Being a martyr solves nothing. Even people who get legitimate help occasionally relapse - and that is normal. Not that I think Josh is an addict, just a terribly screwed up man-child.

 

I wish the show had Anna meeting with other women who had been in the same predicament. Some who left, some who stayed. Her eyes might have been opened, but Jim Bob can't have that.

 

 

Yep, prepareth for The Grand Duggar Redemption Tour. Amazing Grace will be the theme song.

I'm now cynical enough to believe TLC will get Josh's face back on air. Just think of the ratings.

[Tabbygirl521]

All Anna's done is bought herself time. Inside of five years she'll be back exactly where she is now. Josh is not getting real help. He will act out again; count on (teehee) it. Being a martyr solves nothing. Even people who get legitimate help occasionally relapse - and that is normal. Not that I think Josh is an addict, just a terribly screwed up man-child.

I wish the show had Anna meeting with other women who had been in the same predicament. Some who left, some who stayed. Her eyes might have been opened, but Jim Bob can't have that.

I'm now cynical enough to believe TLC will get Josh's face back on air. Just think of the ratings.

I can't imagine that Josh himself would want to be on camera again, but perhaps I underestimate his ego.

If Anna truly believes the teachings of this cult, she may genuinely be willing to give Josh the chance to make amends and demonstrate that he is healed. And who knows, maybe he is. Personally, I think that if he does manage to suppress his urges that frustration will come out in some other ways. At the very least, I'm sure he will be under house arrest and never allowed to be alone EVER. I think either he will be willing to submit to this and think he deserves it while he tries to do better OR he will totally rebel and take off.

Either way might make good TV. I only started following these people after the scandal, to be honest.

[Sew Sumi]

He will be back on TV if only for the paycheck.

I saw some stills of Anna when the Duggars showed up enough masse to see Spooge, and she looked ANAZING. It's a pity that she is probably losing all that weight and de-frumping (as much as a Gothardite can) to be more attractive to her husband. Poor Anna is really beating herself up, per her Gothard beliefs. If only we could tell her that this is entirely Smuggar's fault. Look at Tom Brady and Tiger Woods for proof; they both cheated on supermodels and other beautiful, powerful women. How she looks will never really matter to him.

I give him maybe two years.

[Churchhoney]

 

I'm now cynical enough to believe TLC will get Josh's face back on air. Just think of the ratings.

 

Well, in my opinion they've already got the worst, the true perps, back on air -- Jim Bob and Michelle.

 

Honestly, it isn't Josh that I'm most eager to see off tv at all. Josh is out there as a human being and a person who is royally screwed up and has royally screwed up. Nobody is lionizing Josh or making his standards of behavior into some kind of model of Christian virtue and nobody is going to, whether he's on tv or not. .... So seeing Josh is seeing something that's kind of like the truth.

 

Seeing JB and M perpetually Tefloned by TLC and the leghumpers, however, is seeing the hideous falsehood and evil that's ultimately behind Josh's troubles and the sad state of all the other kids being held up as "godly" and loving parenthood. Having them on tv -- where to many people they do look like role models and where most of their horrible behavior and lethal beliefs are whitewashed by the network to look like something harmless or even benign-- is the true evil that should be stopped for the good of the world, not to mention the good of their children.

 

If TLC doesn't put Josh on tv, they'll just be scapegoating him (as JB and M have led the way in doing) as a way of sneaking the return of the true perpetrators, if you ask me.

Edited December 29, 2015 by Churchhoney

[GeeGolly]

I rarely disagree with my Churchie Woman, but on this I'm only half way there. I think that the Duggars mostly reinforce this type of Fundyism with other like minded folks. I think the majority of people see what is really going on. In the last year alone, the world has learned that a Duggar son has molested his sisters and cheated on his wife, and that two Duggar daughters had dangerous home labors/birth that ended up with hospitalization. 

 

If that doesn't give the average person pause to think that maybe "doing things a little differently" isn't working, I don't know what will. In a way I see the Duggars as Public Service Announcements.

 

And those are the in-your-face events. A lot of the subtle idiocy is displayed often as well.

Edited December 29, 2015 by GeeGolly

[Churchhoney]

I rarely disagree with my Churchie Woman, but on this I'm only half way there. I think that the Duggars mostly reinforce this type of Fundyism with other like minded folks. I think the majority of people see what is really going on. In the last year alone, the world has learned that a Duggar son has molested his sisters and cheated on his wife, and that two Duggar daughters had dangerous home labors/birth that ended up with hospitalization. 

 

If that doesn't give the average person pause to think that maybe "doing things a little differently" isn't working, I don't know what will. In a way I see the Duggars as Public Service Announcements.

 

And those are the in-your-face events. A lot of the subtle idiocy is displayed often as well.

 

I hope you're right!

 

But I'm afraid that the most liable-to-be-influenced people in the audience look on the Josh thing (and Jill's and Jessa's birth idiocies, etc.) as "sad uncontrollable things that happened to this wonderful Christian family just as they happen to all of us -- and isn't it wonderful how they continue walking with the Lord through these fires?!" .... Seems to me that's the way the leghumper portion of the audience -- which I'm guessing to be frighteningly huge -- has viewed all the stuff that's happened to them so far. Like the Josie and Jubilee birth traumas, for example. (which were, in my opinion, JB's and M's fault for proceeding with pregnancies when there were excellent medical reasons not to do so)  ....I'm a Duggar pessimist!

 

So ... hope you're right.

 

ELTA: Here are a few of the Amazon reviews of the new Counting On videos -- just to show why I'm scared!

 

Just a beautiful family and I love that they are showing people that Christians aren't perfect. I pray that the family is able to pull through all the controversy and TLC will put them all back on the air again! We all miss them!!

For years the Duggars have portrayed a perfect family image. While this image sets an excellent example, it isn't real. Christians sin, fear, doubt, and struggle, just like everyone else. We aren't Christians because we are perfect, rather we need Christ because we aren't perfect. Christianity is a fight. A fight for all that is good, true and beautiful, but it is hard. Sometimes we fall. When we do, we remember how much more we need Christ.

Thank you Jana, Jill, Jessa, Jinger, Joy and the rest of the Duggars for speaking openly and honestly.

very much love the values this family teaches. Although they could be handling their situation with Josh differently, his actions do not speak for the entire family. There is much to learn here.

 

Love it! They are such a genuine family and Christian example.

 

I love this family. I don't love everything. But I don't love everything about my own family. They go through things in life that all of us go through. I don't know why that ever surprised anyone. They are humans. I love watching this special. I hate to see it come to a end. I wish those that didn't like to watch it simply wouldn't watch it, and let us that love them, and get comfort from them watch them . The harassment these girls have taken on social media is so unreal. I do hate how much this special focused on Josh's scandals. They had more happy things going on to focus on. But understand they are weighing on the scale whether to try to address the issues or to appear they are just attempting to shove them under the rug.

 

I am so pleased to see the girls' and their family back on TLC again. This family has taken some hits this year and it is obvious by their words they are struggling to find a new normal. Life doesn't have a steering wheel that we can drive to all the easy places. There will be dirt roads and unforseen challenges; love finds a way to meet those challenges and grow from it. I respect that they are able to openly discuss these issues with those of us who love their family. We can all learn alot from their experience, namely not to kick someone when they are down.....as Jana said "beauty rises from the ashes".

 

http://www.amazon.com/Jill-Jessa-Counting-On-Season/product-reviews/B019EE2U32/ref=cm_cr_pr_btm_link_2?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending&pageNumber=2

Edited December 30, 2015 by Churchhoney

[Kellyee]

I read through the Web site for the rehab that Josh is in. There is nothing in their staffing or their treatment plan that I think will address Josh's real issues. They mostly talk about re-establishing a relationship with Christ and how that will lead to success in life. But Josh already has that relationship, and has had it since birth based on his upbringing. There is no one on their staff with a background in handling sexual dysfunction and sexual acting out.

 

Oh, and their staff descriptions are amusing. One "senior" person only graduated from the program himself in 2014.

 

And their visitation limitations and 10 minute phone call restrictions mean that Josh and Anna aren't even able to do any real work on their marriage. As it is, he gets one on one "mentoring" maybe once a week according to their plan. The rest is bible reading and group therapy.

[Fuzzysox]

Confirmed it was Anna who went to visit Josh on Christmas.

 

http://www.people.com/article/anna-duggar-reunites-josh-duggar?xid=socialflow_facebook_peoplemag

 

I have an important question, who took Anna's garbage out while Josh has been at Jesus Jail?

[JenCarroll]

He will be back on TV if only for the paycheck.

I saw some stills of Anna when the Duggars showed up enough masse to see Spooge, and she looked ANAZING. It's a pity that she is probably losing all that weight and de-frumping (as much as a Gothardite can) to be more attractive to her husband. Poor Anna is really beating herself up, per her Gothard beliefs. If only we could tell her that this is entirely Smuggar's fault. Look at Tom Brady and Tiger Woods for proof; they both cheated on supermodels and other beautiful, powerful women. How she looks will never really matter to him.

I give him maybe two years.

I'm sure you're right, and I'm also sure that's the advice she got from all the Gothardites. "Anna, you need to think about why Josh was motivated to stray. Have you maybe let yourself go a teensy bit now that you've settled into marriage? He married a lovely, slender girl, why would he want a tired, pudgy, straight-haired matron now? You owe it to Josh and to your marriage to pull yourself together." Or basically, "How dare you develop a little pooch after bearing four children in less than six years. That's so unfair to Josh!"

[BitterApple]

Or basically, "How dare you develop a little pooch after bearing four children in less than six years. That's so unfair to Josh!"

While completely ignoring the fact that Josh has more of a pregnancy gut than his wife. I can absolutely see then making Anna feel like this whole thing is her fault.

[Kellyee]

 

While completely ignoring the fact that Josh has more of a pregnancy gut than his wife. I can absolutely see then making Anna feel like this whole thing is her fault.

 

My only hope is that someone at the Bible prison where Josh is residing recognizes that Josh's sexual dysfunction pre-dates meeting Anna, and takes some kind of steps to begin to address his real issues. This is a pattern. He didn't just go out and bang a porn star. If he had, I would lean more towards Anna's opinion that maybe they can work their marriage out. Josh's problems go back years. They don't even really know everything he may have done, since he only admitted to the cheating after getting caught.

[Tabbygirl521]

I know it's wrong, but I just flashed on the idea of an old-school Polaroid showing Josh hog-tied like a Thanksgiving turkey.

I guess I am hoping for everyone's sake that no one made a sex tape or anything.

Edited December 30, 2015 by Tabbygirl521

[Tunia]

Look at Tom Brady and Tiger Woods for proof; they both cheated on supermodels and other beautiful, powerful women.

 

Not to be super picky, Sew Sumi, but Tom Brady and Bridget Moynahan were already done and over when he started dating Gisele, and he hadn't learned of Bridget's pregnancy beforehand.  Their reports of the relationship timelines are public knowledge, and there was no cheating involved.  In fact, the two women have become fairly close (considering), and the three adults have worked out arrangements for co-parenting of Bridget's son, Jack, quite nicely. Now, Tiger on the other hand...!

 

Topic?  Josh would still be scum even if Anna were to be hideous, which she certainly is not.

[JoanArc]

 

While completely ignoring the fact that Josh has more of a pregnancy gut than his wife.

I'm morbidly curious how he will look after getting out of RU. Fatter? Thinner? Likely hyper-aged and tired.

 

 

My only hope is that someone at the Bible prison where Josh is residing recognizes that Josh's sexual dysfunction pre-dates meeting Anna, and takes some kind of steps to begin to address his real issues.

They can't even talk about their 'problem', so no, no real help. He'd need therapy sessions alone, with his parents, and with Anna to begin to actually heal. Six months of 3-times-a-week psychotherapy would just begin to scratch the surface with Josh. Plus therapy is PAINFUL, at least at first, so I don't see Josh being very compliant. I do see him rattling off bible verses while thinking about strip club snatchola.

 

 

They don't even really know everything he may have done, since he only admitted to the cheating after getting caught.

Word. He's the type that will only admit to things after getting caught. I hope the rehab girlfriend story is true, and he does something stupid with her, if only for Anna to see she'll never get what she wants out of Josh.

[SongbirdHollow]

Maybe I'm giving more credit than she deserves but I want to see Anna's improved appearance as a kind of Fuck You to Josh as in, "Look what you tossed away, asshole!" But I guess that's not right because she does plan to take him back. I'm just a fan of "living well is the best revenge."

[Sew Sumi]

I doubt Anna even knows that phrase exists.

[JoanArc]

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/duggar-family-civil-lawsuit-prison-josh-85510

 

 

“[Jim Bob] doesn’t want this case becoming a criminal matter. He knows Josh would never be the same if he went inside,” says the source close to the family. But Jim Bob is also concerned about how Josh’s actions will affect the family. “They’re afraid Josh going to jail would leave an indelible stain on the family name,” adds the source, “and that they, too, would be punished for years because of what he did.”

If there's one thing Jim Bob is good at, it's getting away with things. Danica will get her nice, quiet payoff.

[riverblue22]

Maybe Josh has been scared straight with all of this.  He'll work for his dad in Duggar Prison from now on.  He won't be able to pay his own bills or own his own credit card.  The computer access will be locked down.  Jim Bob will see to it that no prostitutes will be paid nor porn sites accessed.  In exchange he can live in the pool house with a rotating staff of accountability partners and nannies passing through.

 

Now all Jim Bob has to do is get HGTV to cover his home flipping business!  He will have tons of cheap labor.  He just needs a pretty face like Joanna Gaines or Christina El Moussa to cover the design stuff.  Maybe Jinger and Joy could spend a day with a designer and become experts.

Edited December 30, 2015 by riverblue22

[Missy Vixen]

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/duggar-family-civil-lawsuit-prison-josh-85510

 

If there's one thing Jim Bob is good at, it's getting away with things. Danica will get her nice, quiet payoff.

Wait until Jim Boob finds out that sometimes, money won't fix it.

[JoanArc]

Wait until Jim Boob finds out that sometimes, money won't fix it.

If he gives her enough out of court, it'll go away. That said, I feel bad she went though all that with Josh, and she deserves justice.

[SometimesBites]

Maybe I'm giving more credit than she deserves but I want to see Anna's improved appearance as a kind of Fuck You to Josh as in, "Look what you tossed away, asshole!" But I guess that's not right because she does plan to take him back. I'm just a fan of "living well is the best revenge."

Sadly for Anna, it's incredibly common for women (even if they are really pissed off) to make a panicked lunge at their appearances and become temporarily hyper-sexual with partners after an infidelity is first revealed. I think it's a discouraging cross of societal emphasis on female appearance with a natural primate adaptation to win/keep a mate--one that can supersede even a simmering rage with the cheater. With lifelong Gothard teaching as a foundations, this tendency would be greatly magnified for Anna, I think.

[Churchhoney]

He will be back on TV if only for the paycheck.

I saw some stills of Anna when the Duggars showed up enough masse to see Spooge, and she looked ANAZING. It's a pity that she is probably losing all that weight and de-frumping (as much as a Gothardite can) to be more attractive to her husband. Poor Anna is really beating herself up, per her Gothard beliefs. If only we could tell her that this is entirely Smuggar's fault. Look at Tom Brady and Tiger Woods for proof; they both cheated on supermodels and other beautiful, powerful women. How she looks will never really matter to him.

I give him maybe two years.

 

And being a highly seductive sexpot who knows every move in the book doesn't help any more than beauty does. Some guy cheated on Dita von Teese, for example, as I recall. It's not you, Anna. It's him.

[Churchhoney]

   '“[Jim Bob] doesn’t want this case becoming a criminal matter. He knows Josh would never be the same if he went inside,” says the source close to the family. But Jim Bob is also concerned about how Josh’s actions will affect the family. “They’re afraid Josh going to jail would leave an indelible stain on the family name,” adds the source, “and that they, too, would be punished for years because of what he did.”'

 

When in fact, Jim Bob Duggar, you ought to be punished for years because of what you did -- to Josh and all the rest of your kids. But what's really happening is they're all being punished for a lifetime because of you you you. Scapegoating piece of disgusting scum. He's the indelible stain on the Duggars, And it's the kind of stain that goes right through to the bone.

 

This kind of crap from somebody who industriously swept an obviously very messed-up boy's multiple, escalating, long-term intra-family child molestation under the rug to help him claw after, first, power and then fame and money absolutely disgusts me. If Jim Bob had found out about Josh's Ashley Madison adventures but it had never become public knowledge, he would have happily swept it under a rug as well.

Edited December 30, 2015 by Churchhoney

[MarysWetBar]

I so agree with you Churchie. I blame the negligent parents far more than i do Josh, even.

He is just the tip of the iceberg here and the first public example of how their shitty parenting and ridiculous belief system has hobbled them all.

Josh is the secondary cancer in this disease. It started with his parents. You need to cut the head off that snake.

Edited December 30, 2015 by MarysWetBar

[Tabbygirl521]

So JimBob allegedly feels they all would be punished for years if Josh went to jail? How? By losing a fucking TV show? Where's the Kleenex?

[JoanArc]

 

When in fact, Jim Bob Duggar, you ought to be punished for years because of what you did -- to Josh and all the rest of your kids. But what's really happening is they're all being punished for a lifetime because of you you you. Scapegoating piece of disgusting scum. He's the indelible stain on the Duggars, And it's the kind of stain that goes right through to the bone.

Don't forget Michelle, CH. (And great post!)

 

 

If Jim Bob had found out about Josh's Ashley Madison adventures but it had never become public knowledge, he would have happily swept it under a rug as well.

Yup. 19KAC would still be on, Josh would still be in DC, all would be 'well'.

[Marigny]

All Anna's done is bought herself time. Inside of five years she'll be back exactly where she is now. Josh is not getting real help. He will act out again; count on (teehee) it. Being a martyr solves nothing. Even people who get legitimate help occasionally relapse - and that is normal. Not that I think Josh is an addict, just a terribly screwed up man-child.

 

I wish the show had Anna meeting with other women who had been in the same predicament. Some who left, some who stayed. Her eyes might have been opened, but Jim Bob can't have that.

 

I'm now cynical enough to believe TLC will get Josh's face back on air. Just think of the ratings.

 

Definitely can't have Anna conversing with the heathens during a time like this. 

[DangerousMinds]

Sadly for Anna, it's incredibly common for women (even if they are really pissed off) to make a panicked lunge at their appearances and become temporarily hyper-sexual with partners after an infidelity is first revealed. I think it's a discouraging cross of societal emphasis on female appearance with a natural primate adaptation to win/keep a mate--one that can supersede even a simmering rage with the cheater. With lifelong Gothard teaching as a foundations, this tendency would be greatly magnified for Anna, I think.

The insane, super fundie curled hair is not doing her any favors though.

[Ljohnson1987]

Anna visited Smugs in "Rehab" and had a great time. ANNA OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES! Your husband is a pedophile who isn't receiving proper treatment for it, and you're no better, by joining the rest of your idiot family in saying that it's no big deal, and all can be forgiven. Put the safety of your children before your husband.

[Missy Vixen]

When in fact, Jim Bob Duggar, you ought to be punished for years because of what you did -- to Josh and all the rest of your kids. But what's really happening is they're all being punished for a lifetime because of you you you. Scapegoating piece of disgusting scum. He's the indelible stain on the Duggars, And it's the kind of stain that goes right through to the bone.

 

BRAVO. And you've encapsulated what is wrong with the Duggar family in very few sentences.

 

Of course, Jim Boob will be looking for ANYONE else to pin the blame on for his mistakes in life, which are legion.

If he gives her enough out of court, it'll go away. That said, I feel bad she went though all that with Josh, and she deserves justice.

I don't think the Duggars have enough money to make it all go away. There will be more allegations.

 

Joshley Madison had better be on his knees right now praying that the Pennsylvania AG's office is not in the mood to finish off 2015 with another lawsuit filing. Wasn't Joshley's interesting adventure with the prostitute in PA as well?

[Sew Sumi]

Yes,and the legal wheels are already spinning. Paperwork must be filed by around 1/11, and first court appearance (lawyers only, I am sure) is set for 1/23. In PA.

[JoanArc]

Yes,and the legal wheels are already spinning. Paperwork must be filed by around 1/11, and first court appearance (lawyers only, I am sure) is set for 1/23. In PA.

Thanks for this info. Any word on Victim #5's suit? Or the CPS investigation? I know they didn't magically go away.

[Sew Sumi]

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/josh-duggar-porn-star-battery-lawsuit-pretrial-hearing-danica-dillon/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=JDuggarPosrnStarCourtDate

[GeeGolly]

I highly doubt Josh will have criminal charges brought against him. Johns rarely spend time in jail, and it will be very hard to prove assault charges in a he-said-she-said case. I think that is just tabloid gossip, to stir up readers.

[Sew Sumi]

I agree about that, but there are now solid deadlines and court dates that I could take away from the article. Otherwise, I would never bother with a Radar Online piece.

[3girlsforus]

I haven't been on in a while but I was wondering how much longer Josh is supposed to be in "rehab". I don't understand the length of time he's there. Are people who go to normal rehab places for sex addition there for 6+ months? 

[Sew Sumi]

The RU program is six months, no matter the "addiction." It doesn't tailor itself to an addict's specific needs at all. Because Jesus.

He is due out at the end of February.

Edited December 31, 2015 by Sew Sumi

[leighdear]

I wonder if they'll all take him out for a celebratory drippy sundae.

[3girlsforus]

The RU program is six months, no matter the "addiction." It doesn't tailor itself to an addict's specific needs at all. Because Jesus.

He is due out at the end of February.

 

Good grief that's a long time especially when you aren't actually doing any work on your problems. 

[drafan]

   '“[Jim Bob] doesn’t want this case becoming a criminal matter. He knows Josh would never be the same if he went inside,” says the source close to the family. But Jim Bob is also concerned about how Josh’s actions will affect the family. “They’re afraid Josh going to jail would leave an indelible stain on the family name,” adds the source, “and that they, too, would be punished for years because of what he did.”'

 

 

Hey, hey, hey...listen up, JimBob. Here's an idea. Just fold up shop and go away. Get off TV, People Magazine, and all social media. Stop showing up at those fool conferences. Stop the "books", the tours, the speaking engagements. People will forget about all of you, including Josh,  and you won't feel "punished" any longer. Try it. I guarantee it will work faster than you can say "Honey Boo Boo Who?" Yeah, and everyone over 16 can get a job. That's about 1/2 of you, and you all can share the childcare and pseudo-homeschooling.

 

Just a suggestion.

[WescottF1]

Boob Force One was here in Rockford again on the 29th.  Only spent about an hour on the ground before flying back to Fundieville.  Found a screenshot from the Life is all not pickles and hairspray Facebook page on another forum.

[Fuzzysox]

Good grief that's a long time especially when you aren't actually doing any work on your problems. 

Hey those Hobby Lobby stores aren't going to remodel themselves. It takes a good 6 months at the speed the fundies move at to get the store in tip top shape so they can sell stuff that screams JESUS.