Darknight June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 Look at Tori Spelling. She grew up Rich n spoiled. She still has money but not like before. It's hard to go plastic when you had a sliver spoon in your mouth. No way does JimChelle or the kids want to go back to where they were before. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1229058
BitterApple June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 1,000 times this. If there is any truth to him coming to those two idiots, crying and confessing, he was obviously looking for help. I believe the police report stated Josh did go to his parents prior to being told on by his sisters. I agree this was a kid screaming for help and the only "help" he got was being shamed in front of his congregation and sent off to some quasi labor camp. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1229090
Seashell Lover June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 I wonder why Smuggs hired a bodyguard is he afraid of what Boob is going to do to him? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1229154
OSM Mom June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 I wonder why Smuggs hired a bodyguard is he afraid of what Boob is going to do to him? Probably getting death threats from unstable people. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1229186
trimthatfat June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 Anna's pregnant and they have two young kids. I think they would be stupid not to have a bodyguard present at this time. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1229285
CofCinci June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 I wonder why Smuggs hired a bodyguard is he afraid of what Boob is going to do to him?At what age in the Bible can you still "rod" your adult children? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1229309
lulu69 June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 The hiring of a bodyguard makes me wonder if there have been death threats against Smugger? I know in jail, sexual predators, esp child molestors are low on the food chain. I could see some crazy person who either had a loved one abused by a predator long ago (payback) or who was abused themselves going after Josh in a misguided attempt of justice. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1229358
Quilt Fairy June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 (edited) From what I understand the bodyguard is primarily to keep photographers away. This same man has acted as bodyguard for other TLC families. Edited June 10, 2015 by Quilt Fairy 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1229372
CofCinci June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 From what I understand the bodyguard is primarily to keep photographers away. This same man has acted as bodyguard for other TLC families.Perhaps he'll guard Anna the same way he guarded Kate Gosslin? (With his penis). Anna: You in danger, girl. http://youtu.be/uxBfukKmATo 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1229384
Bella June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 I think it's merely paparazzi control with the body guard. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1229405
Barbie June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 I was really holding out hope that Josh and Anna would settle in Florida with her family, they would be better off... 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1229548
bigskygirl June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 Once again, please do not speculate about the reasoning behind Josh molesting his sisters. We are not psychologists, and if a poster was one, he or she has not sit down with Josh to find out why he chose to do this. I am sure there are other forums in the internet world to discuss this one topic. Any posts with the Josh armchair counseling analyzing his motives will be edited or hidden. Thank you for your cooperation and patience. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1229572
6 MeowMeowBeenz June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 is it terrible hard to believe josh may be sorry for what he did? I don't think that's material. Lots of people who commit crimes are truly sincerely sorry, yet they still are punished by the judicial system. Completely appropriately, I might add. Praying the perv away seems to be their answer. Fine for them, not for society. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1229766
Dawn16 June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 At what age in the Bible can you still "rod" your adult children? At any age, since using the "rod" means guiding your children like a shepherd guides its flock, not beating them. Or making excuses for them, especially at the expense of your other children. Josh and Anna moving reminds me that I did have hope for them in D.C., living outside the compound and meeting more mainstream conservative Christians. And I remember noticing when the whole family visited a church that Josh was moving to the music and not standing uncomfortably still. Anna in Arkansas with Josh, four kids, no money, and the whole world knowing what her husband did is extremely depressing. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1229812
truthtalk2014 June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 I thought it was very interesting and telling that this time they hired movers. What's wrong Joshie? The whole brood didn't want to come help you move? Stop by for a little baby shower at the Bates for M4? Hmmm... 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1229831
JoanArc June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 (edited) I thought it was very interesting and telling that this time they hired movers. What's wrong Joshie? The whole brood didn't want to come help you move? Stop by for a little baby shower at the Bates for M4? Hmmm... I doubt he even helped on the move-out, or was in the DC area at all. Edit: All the siblings are building Josh's retirement compound in Arkansas, silly! Edited June 10, 2015 by JoanArc 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1229846
Aja June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 I thought it was very interesting and telling that this time they hired movers. What's wrong Joshie? The whole brood didn't want to come help you move? Stop by for a little baby shower at the Bates for M4? Hmmm... What would be the point of all the siblings helping Josh if there are no cameras filming it? 20 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1229848
barbedwire June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 I too had wished they moved to Florida mostly for the kids. Mac, Mike and Marc need to be near the grandparents who have time for them and away from the whispering and whatever else is going on in the Arkansas hot seat. They could have lived a quiet and simple life. But no........................ 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1229864
bluebonnet June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 I think it's important to remember there are 3.5 kids involved here. Hiring a bodyguard or quietly moving with the aid of professional movers shouldn't be shocking, surprising, or even insulted. Whatever Josh and Anna might deserve or what sort of people they are, I can't help but be thankful that at least steps have been taken to shield the children at this time. This is all a different sort of publicity than the kind to which the children have become accustomed. The media and public aren't clamoring for photos and glimpses for the same reason they were a few weeks ago. 18 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1229892
Micks Picks June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 I too was thinking about the movers this time. Obviously it wasn't going to be an episode and not paid for, so it's way cheaper than having the stink bus and half a dozen SUVs or trucks driving there and back. I bet the Bates family is doing the happy dance. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1229914
CofCinci June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 Josh's brothers are busy illegally renovating his new home to act as movers. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1229918
Seashell Lover June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 I was wondering what the kids will say or do when they are older kids google the familys name and this comes up. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230037
Absolom June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 I keep thinking of Anna and moving in the last few weeks or just after birth in two back to back pregnancies. She can't catch a break it seems. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230038
Lemur June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 Let's be honest, folks. We all know that Josh hired the bodyguard to protect him from Michelle. I have a feeling she's just waiting with a stout rod for the minute he walks through the door of the Tinker Toy House. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230048
Marigold June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 (edited) Edit because I found out he is moving into Arkansas asap I wonder if Josh is really having trouble with violent threats etc. To hire a body guard? Wonder what's up? Maybe TLC hooked him up...that was Kate's body guard. Edited June 10, 2015 by Marigold Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230107
FakeJoshDuggar June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 In all of the body guards in all of the world, he chose THAT one. It certainly sounds like a TLC pick to me especially if both are under contracts with Discovery. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230133
Foghorn Leghorn June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 I think TLC is definitely supplying/paying for a bodyguard because it is always the same one!?! Is he the only one who comes up in google? LOL 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230179
anony mouse June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 Edit because I found out he is moving into Arkansas asap I wonder if Josh is really having trouble with violent threats etc. To hire a body guard? Wonder what's up? Maybe TLC hooked him up...that was Kate's body guard. I'm not surprised - there are some crazy people out there. I'm sure the family has received threats. I'm glad TLC has someone there, as I do worry about the M kids and some loon. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230219
CofCinci June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 I think TLC is definitely supplying/paying for a bodyguard because it is always the same one!?! Is he the only one who comes up in google? LOLTLC most likely contracts to a security firm and has utilized this same company for years. Bodyguard probably owns the company and takes the best assignments? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230223
Popular Post FakeJoshDuggar June 10, 2015 Popular Post Share June 10, 2015 I do not think the FRC is a 'hate group'. They have very conservative values and lobby congress, just as many uber liberal groups do. I may not agree with them, but I will not call them a hate group because of their beliefs and lobbying efforts. When an organization seeks to take rights and civil liberties away from US citizens based on their interpretation of the bible, it's very much a hate group. Their argument that marriage is between one man and one woman is tantamount to opposition to interracial marriage which was only made legal in 1967. Arguments about interracial marriage were biblically based as are the FRC's lobbying claims about LBGT citizens. FRC spreads misinformation about LBGT citizens as to sway public opinion the same way that Westboro Baptist Church tries to sway public opinion by protesting funerals with their God awful picketing propaganda. 34 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230225
Marigold June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 Wow. I'm sorry that it has come to the need for a body guard. Anna and the kids must have whiplash from their world turning upsidedown in a matter of a few hours. First you are a popular person and now your husband needs a bodygaurd?? wow. I'd really love to know what Anna REALLY thinks? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230236
bencr June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 I don't know why Josh needs a bodyguard. But I think it's at least possible that hiring a bodyguard is part of a public relations stunt to show people how persecuted Josh and his family have been. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230250
bigskygirl June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 Folks, you've all been exemplary and understanding about the landmines of language with this issue. We'd also like to add rape and incest to that. Please be very, very careful when you use those term as they mean something specific. It would be best to use molest. It describes perfectly what we (so far) know has occurred. Thank you. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230251
Aja June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 (edited) Re: bodyguard. I don't know. There are a lot of crazy people out there. I'd hate for anything scary to happen to Anna and the kids. They don't deserve any of this, especially the children. Edited June 10, 2015 by Aja 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230257
FakeJoshDuggar June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 I'd really love to know what Anna REALLY thinks? Anna has been conditioned to only think what her headship tells her to think. Stockholm Syndrome on a 25+ year scale. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230263
HundFan June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 I do not feel even the tiniest bit of sympathy for Josh, but it is hard not to pity Anna. I agree that's why she was clinging to Josh like a motherless monkey and crying for no reason on the "Digging With The Duggars" episode. She was also atypically chatty, making nonsensical comments about "family traditions." Uncomfortable people try too hard by smiling inappropriately and talking too much. So it was with Anna, who KNEW what was coming. PS: Ben's face during that show was another "tell." He looked like he had just eaten something truly disgusting. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230279
gunderda June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 If the weight loss was caused by stress related to the molestation scandal, I wonder how far in advance the Duggars were aware the scandal was going to break before it actually did. The airport pics were taken only one day after InTouch published the first article about the molestation. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3089944/Embattled-reality-star-Josh-Duggar-arrives-DC-airport-alongside-pregnant-wife-three-children-one-day-child-molestation-allegations-surfaced.html I don't know.... I hate to say he looks good, but he does in terms of losing the weight and to me, if it were weight loss caused by stress you'd see it in his face and he would still look terrible. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230284
Marigold June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 totally agree. Anna thinks what she has been told. However, I bet this rocked her to the deepest part of her soul. She might actually being feeling something for the first time. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230287
Cherrio June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 Perhaps he'll guard Anna the same way he guarded Kate Gosslin? (With his penis). Anna: You in danger, girl. http://youtu.be/uxBfukKmATo I am glad I went to the bathroom before I read this, cause I would peed my pants ! LOL Oh and Steve is also very good at carrying purses. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230304
FakeJoshDuggar June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 (edited) totally agree. Anna thinks what she has been told. However, I bet this rocked her to the deepest part of her soul. She might actually being feeling something for the first time. Since her admission that Josh told her about the molestation before they were married, I've wondered if it was disguised under the umbrella of "my faith was tested", "I made mistakes", "I was tempted by the debil." Edited June 10, 2015 by FakeJoshDuggar 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230306
HundFan June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 I don't think Josh is returning to the car lot. I agree. Isn't a big part of buying a car feeling like you can trust the salesman? In this case, let's see ....... yeah, NOT. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230311
Aja June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 Since her admission that Josh told her about the molestation I've wondered if it was guide under the umbrella of "my faith was tested", "I made mistakes", "I was tempted by the debil." Don't forget about the "evil liberal media" and "Christian persecution", as those were major factors as well. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230314
FakeJoshDuggar June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 Don't forget about the "evil liberal media" and "Christian persecution", as those were major factors as well. We musn't forget "crown of thorns", "it was their fault for tempting me with their prairie dresses", and "wimmin are under my authority anyway /shrug." 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230325
truthtalk2014 June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 Re: bodyguard. I don't know. There are a lot of crazy people out there. I'd hate for anything scary to happen to Anna and the kids. They don't deserve any of this, especially the children. I don't think anyone wants to hurt Anna or the m's. Josh - now that is another story. I don't know.... I hate to say he looks good, but he does in terms of losing the weight and to me, if it were weight loss caused by stress you'd see it in his face and he would still look terrible. I just saw this pic and it appears that Mac is giving the bird to someone. LOL Maybe her daddy! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3089944/Embattled-reality-star-Josh-Duggar-arrives-DC-airport-alongside-pregnant-wife-three-children-one-day-child-molestation-allegations-surfaced.html Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230330
Absolom June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 Didn't Jim Bob sell the car lot and they'd have to start over? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230358
dillpickles June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 RE: the body guard thing. There are some crazy people out there. A scandal involving the sexual abuse of minors broke out, and people tend to hate those. Not everyone is decent. Some people might take the rage they feel towards Josh out on Anna and the M kids, and besides, the paparazzi would be out for blood too. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230364
JoanArc June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 FWIW we have no idea that Josh is going back to Arkansas, just rumor. Working on the house could be because he wants to rent it out, or flip it. He'll need the income. BFE, Florida would be pretty good, as Anna would be close to her family for the delivery. Didn't Jim Bob sell the car lot and they'd have to start over? Yeah, and Ben's been driving the Duggar Towing Truck. Josh will need a lower key job for the next 5-10 years. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230369
Sew Sumi June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 I think JB still owns the car lot. Remember they showed an old family friend running it? At minimum, he still owns the property. They would be stupid to kick that guy out and reinstall Smuggar there. I agree that he's even lower on the totem pole than "regular" used car salesmen. For the time being, I see no other option for him than to go to work for JB. I don't even think IBLP headquarters would touch him at this point. However, this is all subject to change in a year or two IF nothing else emerges. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230410
Absolom June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 I thought I'd never quote the fan blog and they could be wrong but check here, they say it was sold. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230464
Cherrio June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 I thought it was very interesting and telling that this time they hired movers. What's wrong Joshie? The whole brood didn't want to come help you move? Stop by for a little baby shower at the Bates for M4? Hmmm... Gil: Kelly,. don't buy a pinata for the shower. Kelly: Why? Gil: We'll use Josh. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/122/#findComment-1230478
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