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Lady Edith

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23 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

The announcement of the inevitable band-aid baby will probably be the straw that breaks Smuggar's back. He looks like he's hanging on by a thread these days. 

I remember his reaction to Meredith's announcement.  He was still asleep and Anna and company stormed into the bedroom and jumped on the bed, all but screaming the news.  He was confused at first but then his face dropped when he realized it wasn't a dream.   And that was before all this happened.

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1 hour ago, Lady Edith said:

I remember his reaction to Meredith's announcement.  He was still asleep and Anna and company stormed into the bedroom and jumped on the bed, all but screaming the news.  He was confused at first but then his face dropped when he realized it wasn't a dream.   And that was before all this happened.

The kids played with the peed on stick. It was gross. 

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GeeGolly

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I think that Erin Bates' health problems with pregnancy & Joshes mess of a life will be true tests of how far these Fundy families will follow the Children are Blessings from the Lord belief.

I think either family would be foolish to have another baby. 

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Defrauder

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Scumbag Josh Duggar had what a YEAR to apologize to the guy he stole his picture/identity from - humiliating him,  embarrassing him, causing him professional and personal difficulties, and yet Josh did nothing to make amends in any way.  Meaning only one thing - Josh is NOT reformed, never has been, and is still only looking out for himself.   Josh obviously regrets only one thing and that is getting caught.   He's probably watching porn right now under some other alias as he plans his next paid for sex encounter. 

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FakeJoshDuggar

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3 hours ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

I wouldn't wish another pregnancy on Smuggs. He's going to be hard pressed to support the ones he's got being he's unemployable and banned from TLC.

Bbbbbb but if you pray hard enough food will magically appear on your table. (Or some such nonsense.) But for real, Anna knows that JB isn't going to let his grandchildren starve... she may have to.do the Duggar's laundry until the end of time but the Mmm-bop kids won't starve.

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BitterApple

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On 8/8/2016 at 4:11 PM, JoanArc said:

I think it would be a disaster. Anna can't carry the TV interviews about the baby by herself. They really can't ignore the father, can't really social media it, can't appear in interviews about it. It's also a 5th baby, big deal. Honestly, they can't afford to put Josh 'out there' with a new wedding and baby coming up. These are cold, calculating, opportunistic people. I think Michelle would buy bc pills or drive Anna to the abortion clinic and not bat an eye. The show must go on.

Well said. The Duggars have absolutely nothing to gain with a 5th Mkid. The absence of Josh is already one massively obese elephant in the room. They wouldn't be able to film a baby shower, gender reveal or birth without including him and I'm not sure if the viewing audience is ready for that. It's already going to be challenging enough with the upcoming Duggalo nuptials. As much as people loathe the Duggars nobody actually wants to see Josh's victims being forced to interact with him on camera. The girls may have genuinely forgiven and moved on, but it will come across as very skeevy to the viewers.

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Barb23

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26 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Well said. The Duggars have absolutely nothing to gain with a 5th Mkid. The absence of Josh is already one massively obese elephant in the room. They wouldn't be able to film a baby shower, gender reveal or birth without including him and I'm not sure if the viewing audience is ready for that. It's already going to be challenging enough with the upcoming Duggalo nuptials. As much as people loathe the Duggars nobody actually wants to see Josh's victims being forced to interact with him on camera. The girls may have genuinely forgiven and moved on, but it will come across as very skeevy to the viewers.

I guess that means we won't get to see what Smugs pulls out of his hat for the Duggalo wedding. But then again how could he top jumping out of the congregation with his cool shades on & grabbing Anna during the recessional like he did at the Dullards wedding? (Said sarcastically)

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Tabbygirl521

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If Anna fetches up pregnant, I think she and Josh and the kids would be relocated somewhere to provide an excuse for not being part of the show. It would be a lame and transparent excuse, but I think that would be the solution. 

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Scarlett45

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58 minutes ago, Tabbygirl521 said:

If Anna fetches up pregnant, I think she and Josh and the kids would be relocated somewhere to provide an excuse for not being part of the show. It would be a lame and transparent excuse, but I think that would be the solution. 

JB would never let Josh out of his sight after this. He went to DC and look what happened. Josh is too much of a liablty to be left to his own devices. Even if he's not on the show any more, he's still recognizable as JB's son. 

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lulu69

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Have we seen any photos of Anna lately, like in the past 2 months? We've seen pastey doucheboy at mini golf & selling cars on the front lawn but no Anna. Hmmmm.... wondering more & more if she's prego. Boob certainly wouldn't want that info to come out right before the new season. 

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Tabbygirl521

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10 hours ago, lulu69 said:

Have we seen any photos of Anna lately, like in the past 2 months? We've seen pastey doucheboy at mini golf & selling cars on the front lawn but no Anna. Hmmmm.... wondering more & more if she's prego. Boob certainly wouldn't want that info to come out right before the new season. 

Ish. I kinda think she would have to be. We know she is super fertile and (presumably) joyfully available. And we know Josh is a Horndog on a short leash. 2 + 2 = 4. 

And just think, he barely knew Meredith since he was away so much of her first months  great time to add another kid.

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On 8/4/2016 at 6:09 PM, Sew Sumi said:

Oh eeew. That would be a hamsweatty mess. 

Every time I open this thread my eyes are assaulted with this up above.  I am SOOOO sending it to my sister.  PERFECT descriptor.  

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CarolMK

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I'm sure that even if Anna isn't pregnant now, she will very likely end up pregnant before the end of the year. She seems to be relatively fertile and we know they will never use birth control, so it's inevitable at some point. Didn't her own mother have 8 children?

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Missy Vixen

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My ass should have its own zip code but I loves me some making fun of Joshley Madison's moobs.

You know Anna's pregnant. Question: When will the breathlessly written, adorably photographed story be run in US or People? "BABY JOY: ANNA FORGIVES JOSH! "NOBODY'S PERFECT," SHE SAYS." I'm in for two weeks or less.

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Sew Sumi

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That scene on the show was filmed sometime in May. If knocked up, she'd be huge by now. It would also mean that she got knocked up maybe a month after Joshley returned from Jesus Jail. I'm still thinking it's a food baby; she's had that look between babies before, and people were speculating without cause then. 

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Absolom

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Ana should only be getting pregnant now or in the next few months if her previous pattern holds.  Given how disturbed Josh was about having number four he may have more and more "tired" nights.  It's no big surprise he's chunked all the weight back on.

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Sew Sumi

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I really, really hope she's just been eating too much of Joshley's diet, and that's it. It means she's fallen back into old patterns with him, but it would also mean that she's not carrying the Band-Aid baby. 

However, if she DID get knocked up almost immediately upon Joshley's return, and that's the last thing Joshley wanted, it could explain his amazingly rapid weight gain. I just hope this isn't the case, and that Joshley is merely overindulging in foods that weren't available in Jesus Jail.

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Clemgo3165

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16 hours ago, Absolom said:

Ana should only be getting pregnant now or in the next few months if her previous pattern holds.  Given how disturbed Josh was about having number four he may have more and more "tired" nights.  It's no big surprise he's chunked all the weight back on.

He so clearly didn't want to have a fourth child, but Anna's programmed to pop out babies and so is he. I hope that part of his "rehab" included a long conversation with his wife about the size of their family. But then it was Jesus Jail, probably just got reprogrammed.

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Missy Vixen

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1 hour ago, Clemgo3165 said:

I hope that part of his "rehab" included a long conversation with his wife about the size of their family. But then it was Jesus Jail, probably just got reprogrammed.

I realize that I live in the world and therefore am not as much of An Authority On Marriage as the Duggars, but here's a question: How can these people not watch TV, not listen to the radio, mess around on the computer, engage in activities outside the home or any of the other things people typically waste time doing and STILL not talk to their spouses?

One would think with all of that free time, there would be SOME substantive convo after the wedding about "Look, I know this isn't what you wanted to hear, but it's how I feel. I do not want any more children. If you will not use birth control, I'm going to start using condoms when we're together." How could telling his wife that he didn't want more children and following up by using birth control be any worse than the way he chose to handle it -- ignoring his fourth child and cheating on his wife while he was busy plastering his "availability" all over Washington, DC and surrounding suburbs? Was KJB going to come over and raid their medicine cabinet?

Seriously -- how does one stay married to a spouse they can't (or won't) talk to? Why would anyone want to?

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Vaysh

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Seriously -- how does one stay married to a spouse they can't (or won't) talk to? Why would anyone want to?

You're approaching this as a sane person. Don't. It's not about what you want, it's about what Jesus wants and Jesus, according to fundies, wants you to stay married no matter how miserable it makes you. Nevermind the historical context of the issue because it's the word of the law that matters, not the spirit of... no wait.

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Albanyguy

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2 hours ago, Missy Vixen said:

How can these people not watch TV, not listen to the radio, mess around on the computer, engage in activities outside the home or any of the other things people typically waste time doing and STILL not talk to their spouses?

I agree that they have ample free time to talk among themselves, but I think that almost all of their conversations are strictly segregated by gender. Men talk to other men about important guy stuff; women talk to other women about pregnancy, childcare, recipes, patterns for modest dresses, etc. When husbands and wives do converse, the husband speaks slowly and condescendingly while the wife bobs her head up and down.

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Missy Vixen

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1 hour ago, Vaysh said:

You're approaching this as a sane person. Don't. It's not about what you want, it's about what Jesus wants and Jesus, according to fundies, wants you to stay married no matter how miserable it makes you. Nevermind the historical context of the issue because it's the word of the law that matters, not the spirit of... no wait.

I'm remembering Bin's earnestly written blog post about not getting along with one's spouse (he worded it differently) bringing him "closer to God" so he could understand her personality. Really? They'd been married less than a year at that point. All couples fight, but this was a cry for help, IMHO. Someone sane would have told Bin to either get himself and Jessa Blessa into a degreed, licensed marriage and family therapist, or cut his losses and file for divorce so he could meet someone that might be better suited to him. I totally get what you're saying about sanity, but again, Anna's yapping about trust? There is no trust with someone that has violated their partnership and family the way her husband did (and according to a certain gossip columnist, is still doing). 

We'll be married 23 years next month. Our marriage is not perfect. We're not perfect. The reason we're still together, though, is that we talked for hundreds of hours before we got married, and we're still talking.

It's unbelievable that the Duggars are so willing to sentence themselves to 50+ years of misery because they weren't smart enough to really get to know their spouses before they got married. They're sentencing their kids to that misery, too.

38 minutes ago, Albanyguy said:

Men talk to other men about important guy stuff; women talk to other women about pregnancy, childcare, recipes, patterns for modest dresses, etc. When husbands and wives do converse, the husband speaks slowly and condescendingly while the wife bobs her head up and down.

I can't imagine living in a house with another adult that could not bring himself to have a mutually respectful conversation with a woman about their relationship or about any other issue they're facing.

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Marigold

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The answer to that question is that it really doesn't matter what YOU want.  It only matters what GOD wants.

So Josh might be sick of kids but he knows that this thinking is wrong and submits to God's Will (as he has learned it).  Anna too.  Deep down, Anna does NOT want to forgive and forget.  but what she feels or thinks is not important.  Only what God thinks. (heavily encouraged by Jim Bob reciting Bible verses at her)

Josh and Anna probably talk plenty but how they talk is different than what you expect.  A lot of talk and thought is focused on getting your life in line with God...a lot of prayer, a lot of strategy on how to accomplish God's will in your daily life etc.  

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Sew Sumi

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But is Josh really a changed man? The guy whose pictures I saw from that airshow looked like he was eating his feelings. I don't buy that he's willfully submitting to anything other than being under JB's thumb so he is able to make a nominal salary doing *anything.* 

I am sure he talks a good game; he was raised speaking the language. But I don't believe that he's bought into the program, deep down. 

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Absolom

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Josh hasn't really believed since he was teen I don't think.  It's his family and the life he knows, but it isn't the life he'd have chosen for himself.  It looks like a life of future misery for him unless or until he can be honest with himself and the family (Jim Bob) and get free. 

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Missy Vixen

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2 hours ago, Absolom said:

Josh hasn't really believed since he was teen I don't think.  It's his family and the life he knows, but it isn't the life he'd have chosen for himself.  It looks like a life of future misery for him unless or until he can be honest with himself and the family (Jim Bob) and get free. 

He's never going to be free. He'll be paying child support for at least four kids.

Maybe he should get a place with Jon Gosselin. Imagine the ensuing reality show.

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Marigold

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Josh is a mess. 

he will never be "changed" because he doesn't 100% believe in all that Gothard stuff.  He will always be  a dog on leash trying to chew the leash off and free himself. 

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bigskygirl

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Josh drank the Kool-Aid well enough to take the job in D.C. to promote his family's religious and political beliefs to the heathens while hiding behind the fact he molested innocent girls and was cheating on his wife. He thinks he is above it all and blames others especially the devil for his actions. In other words, you can take the horse to water, but you cannot make the horse drink. Sorry for comparing beautiful, intelligent animals to Josh.

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Missy Vixen

Missy Vixen

1 hour ago, preciousperfect said:

Josh and Jon: Starting Over (Again)

Opening episode: Jon spends half the episode explaining to Joshley Madison why it's important to work for a living.

Joshley Madison is trolling for chicks at TGI Friday's. He can't understand why the women aren't flocking despite his 4 kids and $2K per month (at least) child support.

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Darknight

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  • On Tuesday, August 02, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Aja said:
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Josh needs to grow a pair. 

Josh is a douchebag. He can prevent pregnancy. He will continue cheating. Since he's dumb he might have a side chick pregnant. That would make good tv. 

Hope Anna and Josh know about stds

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