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My push presents after having my kids were my kids. 

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Tough crowd!  She's wearing modern shoes with closed toes, pants, and a shirt that literally calls back to her family's ridiculous rules and there are still 35 things wrong with what she's doing. 

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52 minutes ago, Lunera said:

This is post from a while back but JerMe had advertised for Banner of Truth several times and they have given him tons of book collections. 

Lol what a douche.

Douche indeed..... He has all their books tagged in his Self Portrait In My Study photo, too.  Doing his job as an influencer....

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Thanks, @Natalie68 and @Churchhoney, for fixing my omissions of the Duggar second generation couples. I forgot the Forsyths and JD/Abbie when I wrote my post this morning. (It didn't look quite right but I couldn't figure out what I'd left out and was out of time to sit at the computer and think about it, lol.)

So yes, that makes six couples who presumably would divide the the total family fee (whatever it is) in some fashion. Plus, as mentioned, Jana and the other unmarrieds/minors, and then there are JB and Michelle. I don't know how the appearance fees work, if any appearance (except I presume in a crowd scene or among those in the pews at a wedding) at all draws a set fee, or there's a sliding scale of fees based on participation in the show, whether you're featured, etc.

I don't know how reliable the numbers are, in that article that sparked this discussion. But if the Duggar family in total is getting paid something in the quoted range ,it just doesn't amount to great money when split up. As @Natalie68 said, livable bucks for Arkansas or Laredo perhaps. But not so much for LA. 

Oh, and lest we forget: Derick said that he and Jill appeared on the show as "volunteers." Allrighty then. I suppose they donated their time because it was part of their ministry? 🤣

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26 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

Do Calvinists get high? 

The ones I knew got high on their own misguided sense of superiority. . . .

So, he's probably just high as fuck on himself in that picture. LOL But more so than usual. 

I am surprised he posted that unflattering of a picture. He looks like the minister version of Gomer Pyle.

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Regarding income: I know nothing about social media. Are they making any money from their social media posts (cute baby pics, recipes etc) or from all their posts advertising clothing and other crap?  If so,  maybe that money added to what TLC pays them, is funding their lifestyle. 

Even if that is so, I agree that they are not being smart with their money, wherever it came from, and it will run out quickly if they are not careful. 

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2 hours ago, Jeeves said:

Thanks, @Natalie68 and @Churchhoney, for fixing my omissions of the Duggar second generation couples. I forgot the Forsyths and JD/Abbie when I wrote my post this morning. (It didn't look quite right but I couldn't figure out what I'd left out and was out of time to sit at the computer and think about it, lol.)

So yes, that makes six couples who presumably would divide the the total family fee (whatever it is) in some fashion. Plus, as mentioned, Jana and the other unmarrieds/minors, and then there are JB and Michelle. I don't know how the appearance fees work, if any appearance (except I presume in a crowd scene or among those in the pews at a wedding) at all draws a set fee, or there's a sliding scale of fees based on participation in the show, whether you're featured, etc.

I don't know how reliable the numbers are, in that article that sparked this discussion. But if the Duggar family in total is getting paid something in the quoted range ,it just doesn't amount to great money when split up. As @Natalie68 said, livable bucks for Arkansas or Laredo perhaps. But not so much for LA. 

Oh, and lest we forget: Derick said that he and Jill appeared on the show as "volunteers." Allrighty then. I suppose they donated their time because it was part of their ministry? 🤣

I think that they all "volunteered" on xx Kids and Counting, but they could be getting paid separately on Countin On.

Personally, I don't think they are. I think that JB negotiated a rate with TLC and all of that money goes to "Duggar Enterprises" and he doles out money as he sees fit. TLC has zero interest in a half a dozen separate contracts for a single show, and JB has 100% interest in retaining control over his offspring.

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9 hours ago, EVS said:

Regarding income: I know nothing about social media. Are they making any money from their social media posts (cute baby pics, recipes etc) or from all their posts advertising clothing and other crap?  If so,  maybe that money added to what TLC pays them, is funding their lifestyle. 

Even if that is so, I agree that they are not being smart with their money, wherever it came from, and it will run out quickly if they are not careful. 

I think it's hard to tell what they're making from their social media. Ultimately, it depends on how successfully they inspire their followers to buy stuff and that may depend on the nature of your followers and whether they're actually interested in what you're pushing as much as on what you put out there. They could be making $50,000 or 50 cents.

I think most people who are successful affiliates tend to stick to one broadish but still limited category of goods and then go all out both in being "experts" of a kind while also being -- or pretending to be -- very "personal" with their followers. That's not all that easy to do. Jingle and Jer seem more savvy than some, but I wonder whether either of them really has the personality for it. 

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2 hours ago, floridamom said:

Does Jeremy realize that Latin is the language of the Roman Catholic Church?

My sense of his crowd is that they basically declare that they are Christ's true believers and everybody else was/is just a flaky -- or demonic -- aberration. So they can lay claim to anything they want since they've had the truth all along. 

That's an attitude most other branches of Christianity gave up sometime in the last century (or at least decided to keep under wraps), but these guys still want to fight the old battles.

It's mainly a sign that their discomfort with the modern world of diversity is even stronger than other people's, I think. Most branches of Christianity had a lot of trouble with this -- for centuries. But I think this belief system must attract more people whose personalities balk at accepting human differences as okay and potentially valid instead of aspiring to snuff them all out and "win." 

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3 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

My sense of his crowd is that they basically declare that they are Christ's true believers and everybody else was/is just a flaky -- or demonic -- aberration. So they can lay claim to anything they want since they've had the truth all along. 

That's an attitude most other branches of Christianity gave up sometime in the last century (or at least decided to keep under wraps), but these guys still want to fight the old battles.

It's mainly a sign that their discomfort with the modern world of diversity is even stronger than other people's, I think. Most branches of Christianity had a lot of trouble with this -- for centuries. But I think this belief system must attract more people whose personalities balk at accepting human differences as okay and potentially valid instead of aspiring to snuff them all out and "win." 

I was thinking about this last night. I watched the 3 hour Jonestown documentary that aired last year on Sundance. (Word to the wise: don't watch all of it in one night like I did.) I find Jonestown fascinating and have read several books about it--including the one the documentary is based on--and watched a lot of documentaries about it.

One thing that always strikes me as being so sad about the whole thing is how many people were initially attracted to Peoples Temple because they thought it was a force for good. They were impressed by the racial equality and diversity and the good work they seemed to be doing in the community. It all ended horribly, of course, but I do think a lot of the folks had good intentions when they joined. 

That has never seemed to be the case of the Duggars or their adjacents for embracing Gothard or just the strict fundamentalism. It's never from any sense of idealism about creating a better world or even really being a good person They smugly claim to be good people, but their actions don't reflect that. It is all about control and their own fear of the outside world. 😞 

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28 minutes ago, Zella said:

I was thinking about this last night. I watched the 3 hour Jonestown documentary that aired last year on Sundance. (Word to the wise: don't watch all of it in one night like I did.) I find Jonestown fascinating and have read several books about it--including the one the documentary is based on--and watched a lot of documentaries about it.

One thing that always strikes me as being so sad about the whole thing is how many people were initially attracted to Peoples Temple because they thought it was a force for good. They were impressed by the racial equality and diversity and the good work they seemed to be doing in the community. It all ended horribly, of course, but I do think a lot of the folks had good intentions when they joined. 

That has never seemed to be the case of the Duggars or their adjacents for embracing Gothard or just the strict fundamentalism. It's never from any sense of idealism about creating a better world or even really being a good person They smugly claim to be good people, but their actions don't reflect that. It is all about control and their own fear of the outside world. 😞 

So true about both groups, I think. 

Depressing how badly things can go, no matter which way you start out. But I guess that reflects how terrifyingly easy it is for a human to go paranoid and control mad, no matter who they are. 

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33 minutes ago, Zella said:

I was thinking about this last night. I watched the 3 hour Jonestown documentary that aired last year on Sundance. (Word to the wise: don't watch all of it in one night like I did.) I find Jonestown fascinating and have read several books about it--including the one the documentary is based on--and watched a lot of documentaries about it.

One thing that always strikes me as being so sad about the whole thing is how many people were initially attracted to Peoples Temple because they thought it was a force for good. They were impressed by the racial equality and diversity and the good work they seemed to be doing in the community. It all ended horribly, of course, but I do think a lot of the folks had good intentions when they joined. 

That has never seemed to be the case of the Duggars or their adjacents for embracing Gothard or just the strict fundamentalism. It's never from any sense of idealism about creating a better world or even really being a good person They smugly claim to be good people, but their actions don't reflect that. It is all about control and their own fear of the outside world. 😞 

I remember when they found the bodies in Jonestown. Since than I have read everything I can on it and watched pretty much everything as well. I honestly wonder if Jones started out trying to do good and his mad side took over or if he was a manipulative evil man from the start. PT started out doing good things, that is how you suck people in who have nothing and hook them. 

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8 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

I remember when they found the bodies in Jonestown. Since than I have read everything I can on it and watched pretty much everything as well. I honestly wonder if Jones started out trying to do good and his mad side took over or if he was a manipulative evil man from the start. PT started out doing good things, that is how you suck people in who have nothing and hook them. 

I was born after Jonestown. My first exposure to it was for the 25th anniversary I think, so I was in my early teens. I just remember watching a PBS documentary and literally not being able to comprehend what I was seeing.

That's a good question about Jones and one I have long pondered.

I think there was always a bit of a dark, manipulative side to Jones, but I also think he had some genuinely good points that kept the worst of it in check in the early years. I mean, the guy helped desegregate Indianapolis. That's pretty commendable. But there are still earlier instances where he comes across as pretty shady even then.  

I think as he got more power, his good points faded away, and the darker side became more prominent. 

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14 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

I remember when they found the bodies in Jonestown. Since than I have read everything I can on it and watched pretty much everything as well. I honestly wonder if Jones started out trying to do good and his mad side took over or if he was a manipulative evil man from the start. PT started out doing good things, that is how you suck people in who have nothing and hook them. 

Yeah, I'm really curious about this, too. This is certainly the time-honored method that street gangs use, for example. Although I guess the mix of good and bad motives is pretty hard to untangle in most of us, when you come right down to it. 

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5 minutes ago, Zella said:

I was born after Jonestown. My first exposure to it was for the 25th anniversary I think, so I was in my early teens. I just remember watching a PBS documentary and literally not being able to comprehend what I was seeing.

That's a good question about Jones and one I have long pondered.

I think there was always a bit of a dark, manipulative side to Jones, but I also think he had some genuinely good points that kept the worst of it in check in the early years. I mean, the guy helped desegregate Indianapolis. That's pretty commendable. But there are still earlier instances where he comes across as pretty shady even then.  

I think as he got more power, his good points faded away, and the darker side became more prominent. 

I think he also began to take drugs heavily at a certain point and that could have changed him or brought out his dark side. 

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2 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

I think he also began to take drugs heavily at a certain point and that could have changed him or brought out his dark side. 

Agreed! He apparently took a lot of drugs. In fact, that's why he wore the trademark sunglasses--so people couldn't see how red his eyes were!

I think that probably lowered his inhibitions about acting on his worse impulses. 

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1 hour ago, Zella said:

I was thinking about this last night. I watched the 3 hour Jonestown documentary that aired last year on Sundance. (Word to the wise: don't watch all of it in one night like I did.) I find Jonestown fascinating and have read several books about it--including the one the documentary is based on--and watched a lot of documentaries about it.

One thing that always strikes me as being so sad about the whole thing is how many people were initially attracted to Peoples Temple because they thought it was a force for good. They were impressed by the racial equality and diversity and the good work they seemed to be doing in the community. It all ended horribly, of course, but I do think a lot of the folks had good intentions when they joined. 

That has never seemed to be the case of the Duggars or their adjacents for embracing Gothard or just the strict fundamentalism. It's never from any sense of idealism about creating a better world or even really being a good person They smugly claim to be good people, but their actions don't reflect that. It is all about control and their own fear of the outside world. 😞 

they want a better world in the sense that they want to convert souls, but that is about it. All those missions.... its not to really help but to convert! 

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On 6/4/2019 at 1:14 AM, Lunera said:

This is post from a while back but JerMe had advertised for Banner of Truth several times and they have given him tons of book collections. 

Lol what a douche.

Jeremy is so boring he’s just buying different versions of the bible and each gospel is a different book 😴 to make it look like he reads a lot I guess. I suppose I should expect that from a pastor in training but I wonder if he’s ever read any other books?

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I gotta run but wanted to answer a question

Reformed/Calvinists revere Latin. I can GUARANTEE Jeremy's kids will take Latin at a school or homeschool.

The Fundamentalist Baptists like Jim Bob have zero use for Latin. 

(My kids take classes at a homeschool coop that is Reformed and they took years of Latin. My other coop is more evangelical and they have not one tiny clue that anyone would ever take Latin.) 

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Churchhoney

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30 minutes ago, Marigold said:

I gotta run but wanted to answer a question

Reformed/Calvinists revere Latin. I can GUARANTEE Jeremy's kids will take Latin at a school or homeschool.

The Fundamentalist Baptists like Jim Bob have zero use for Latin. 

(My kids take classes at a homeschool coop that is Reformed and they took years of Latin. My other coop is more evangelical and they have not one tiny clue that anyone would ever take Latin.) 

Calvin wrote in Latin! In fact, when he wrote some (maybe all?) of his biblical commentaries, he based them on his own translations from the Greek into Latin, rather than relying on another translation. (I once read the Institutes cover to cover, Jer. How about you?) 

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1 hour ago, Puffin said:

Jeremy is so boring he’s just buying different versions of the bible and each gospel is a different book 😴 to make it look like he reads a lot I guess. I suppose I should expect that from a pastor in training but I wonder if he’s ever read any other books?

So...is it the same words but with A REALLY HUGE FONT? Popups? Scratch n sniff? Puzzles?

How do they turn part of a book into an entire book?

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11 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

So...is it the same words but with A REALLY HUGE FONT? Popups? Scratch n sniff? Puzzles?

How do they turn part of a book into an entire book?

I think they all have annotations and commentaries by different people. Those can take up a tremendous amount of room. 

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On 6/5/2019 at 2:41 PM, Churchhoney said:

I think they all have annotations and commentaries by different people. Those can take up a tremendous amount of room. 

I'm a religious person and I'm all for people reading their holy books and studying their faith. 

At some point, you gotta put down the books, roll up your sleeves and practice your faith. I don't know Jinger and Jeremy personally (obviously) but they give off the vibe as big talkers and not too much in the action department. 

I hate that freak Derick BUT at least those two idiots did get sweaty and put in some effort EVEN THOUGH it was more of a missioncation.  We all have hashed out the Dillard mission in Danger America. But, I hate to say this, at least Derick got on a fucking plane and tried. 

No fucking way in hell would Reverend Fancy Pants live in a place with no water or electricity. Neither would Jinger. She looks too princessy lately too. 

Fancy Pants is just going to sit in his "study" and pontificate while Jinger flutters about and strokes his big ego. 

(Oh god, I think I said something positive about Derick. I feel so dirty)

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40 minutes ago, Marigold said:

I'm a religious person and I'm all for people reading their holy books and studying their faith. 

At some point, you gotta put down the books, roll up your sleeves and practice your faith. I don't know Jinger and Jeremy personally (obviously) but they give off the vibe as big talkers and not too much in the action department. 

I hate that freak Derick BUT at least those two idiots did get sweaty and put in some effort EVEN THOUGH it was more of a missioncation.  We all have hashed out the Dillard mission in Danger America. But, I hate to say this, at least Derick got on a fucking plane and tried. 

No fucking way in hell would Reverend Fancy Pants live in a place with no water or electricity. Neither would Jinger. She looks too princessy lately too. 

Fancy Pants is just going to sit in his "study" and pontificate while Jinger flutters about and strokes his big ego. 

(Oh god, I think I said something positive about Derick. I feel so dirty)

Yeah, I agree with every word of this. ....

I don't think Jer does, though! I have a feeling that, if pressed, he'd tell us that words speak louder than actions! 

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9 minutes ago, Brown eyed girl said:

Jinger went blonde, and shorter  

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There's a quick jump onto the cliche train. 

And here was @Marigold predicting that Jingle and Jer wouldn't do anything! Next thing you know, Jer'll be sporting some new pocket squares and Gucci loafers in a completely different color! 

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18 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Kudos to whomever it was who called LA blonde.

Okay, who called it? I'm too lazy to look back through the thread. We need to give credit where credit is due.

Btw, I think it looks horrible and doesn't flatter her skin tone at all. I predict lip filler and a boob job are next.

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1 minute ago, BitterApple said:

Okay, who called it? I'm too lazy to look back through the thread. We need to give credit where credit is due.

Btw, I think it looks horrible and doesn't flatter her skin tone at all. I predict lip filler and a boob job are next.

All paid for with the same mystery fund, i’m sure.

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9 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Okay, who called it? I'm too lazy to look back through the thread. We need to give credit where credit is due.

Btw, I think it looks horrible and doesn't flatter her skin tone at all. I predict lip filler and a boob job are next.

I agree it doesn't really fit her complexion. I don't have a good eye for these things and have never dyed my own hair but maybe another shade of blonde would have worked better?

My first thought was also that a boob job's next. 😆

I never would have thought this when they first married, but maybe in a few years, Jeremy and Jingle will be the next Jim and Tammy Faye.

(I know I've posted these pics before, but I love them too much not to share every chance I get.)

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4 minutes ago, Zella said:

I agree it doesn't really fit her complexion. I don't have a good eye for these things and have never dyed my own hair but maybe another shade of blonde would have worked better?

I think if she kept the brunette and went for an ombré with a darker, honey-toned hue, it would've looked really pretty, but Baywatch Barbie blonde just doesn't fit her. 

I don't have an issue with people trying something new, but why do I get the feeling Jeremy was behind this? It's an extreme change and I find the timing interesting. Jinger had two years in Laredo to do whatever she wanted with her hair, but she waits until L.A. to go for a makeover? 

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