S32.E13: With Me Or Not With Me

[Tara Ariano]

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Another castaway is voted out of the game.

[KimberStormer]

They've really gone all in on the boring cliche titles this season!

[azshadowwalker]

And TV Guide is playing along with the episode descriptions.

[Daisy]

So Tai isn't helping himself at all. 

[thehepburn]

Boom! Tai's episode title.

[wallflower75]

They had a good point--Tai doesn't really have a good track record at sticking with his alliances.

[Daisy]

1 minute ago, wallflower75 said:

They had a good point--Tai doesn't really have a good track record at sticking with his alliances.

He doesn't. and his whole "you know me you me, we all had a voice." and i'm like. Tai - no one did. you flat out wanted Michelle, you flat out TOLD Michelle why, you totally pissed in her cornflakes by saying "you were never part of this (aka my) alliance" ... like. shut up. 

[wallflower75]

Crap--Joe can take his time getting that last bag now that no one else can do anything until he's done!  Go Joe Go!

[riverheightsnancy]

OMG Wow, another slow and steady challenge!!!!!

[Haleth]

Wait.  What?  Joe??

[Daisy]

Wow, Joe!!

I'd say that would be a bad trip selection - you need to pick Michelle to make her feel better, or Tai, to make him feel better, but if you leave Cydney she'd feel all angry and upset. (so really, Aubrey would have been the best NOT to take). but finally some trip selection! 

[ratherbereading]

I think it is hilarious that Joe, the oldest and probably one of the most useless contestants ever (at least as far as challenges go) ends up winning that reward.

Sometimes it is slow and steady.

[wallflower75]

Gee, Cydney, if you know Joe isn't going to be feeling well by eating all beef, why don't you suggest he eat something else?  It's not like he's going to beat you in the next immunity challenge.

[MostlyContent]

I really like Cydney, and would like it if she won, but Aubrey would be wise to try and take her out, unfortunately.  

[Daisy]

would Cydney have the votes? Jason/Scot scream bitter jury betties to me. so does Nick. 

[Straycat80]

Aubrey seems to be calling all the shots, why not vote her off? 

[wallflower75]

5 minutes ago, Daisy said:

would Cydney have the votes? Jason/Scot scream bitter jury betties to me. so does Nick. 

I think it would depend on who she took with her to the finals.  If she's smart, she goes with Tai.  He's possibly the only person they'd be more bitter towards given how royally he screwed them over.  (Presuming F2 instead of F3.)

Edited to add: That pretty much holds true for any of the other four, really.  As they pointed out at the start of the show, Tai's betrayed every alliance he's been in.  If he's in the F2 (or F3), there's going to be a lot of bitterness towards him.

Edited May 12, 2016 by wallflower75
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[Daisy]

and Joe is blocked up. it can't just be about all the meat?

[Straycat80]

Uh oh, could this be another medivac? I hope not! 

[thehepburn]

Slowest. Episode. Evah.

[Sarahsmile416]

When he started talking about his medical issues with his prostate, I immediately thought about Bruce in Exile Island. Hopefully there is a better result and he doesn't end up medivacced!!

[Daisy]

1 minute ago, thehepburn said:

Slowest. Episode. Evah.

i know. it's already 8:44. and no immunity challenge yet. speed it up show. 

[wallflower75]

Fifteen minutes left and no Immunity Challenge?  Joe's going home.  :(

[Daisy]

wow. talk about a 5 post hiccup. sorry guys. (sigh). we're a medivac :(

Wait. Joe doesn't eat meat - and he ate all that meat? 
(sigh). Cydney, why didn't you speak up?

[Straycat80]

Well, that's it. Poor Joe. Wish Cyd had said something. 

[riverheightsnancy]

Geez, Jeff, let the guy leave. He is in pain! Hey Joe, let's sit here for 5 hours, while you are in extreme pain, and talk about your thoughts and feelings. 

[Daisy]

Joe's been Bruced. .. bummer. 
wait. didn't Micronesia have a massive amount of medivacs? I wonder if this means final two. 

[wallflower75]

Ugh...shut up, Jeff.  You think you're telling them something they don't already know?

[MostlyContent]

Can Tai still use his idol now?  

[Daisy]

Just now, MostlyContent said:

Can Tai still use his idol now?  

I don't think so. he had to use it by final five, right?

[Straycat80]

Just now, MostlyContent said:

Can Tai still use his idol now?  

Ooooh! Good question! Can he? 

[Bronzedog]

Joe's in pain and, I'm sure desperately wants something to make it stop, and. Jeff decides to have a philosophical discussion with him before he leaves.

[ElleryAnne]

Poor Joe - in all that pain and having to listen to Jeff pontificate.

[wallflower75]

1 minute ago, Daisy said:

I don't think so. he had to use it by final five, right?

I thought that's how it always worked before...although wouldn't Tony have been able to use his past the final 5?  (Then again, that was a Final 2 season...)

[Daisy]

Okay no - no idol for Tai - Jeff said so. 

[MostlyContent]

3 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

Ooooh! Good question! Can he? 

And we got our answer!  He can't!   

[Haleth]

I wonder what the jury thinks when they're told there is no TC that night.  

Note to all future Survivor players: avoid the beef. Nothing good ever comes from eating a lot of meat on a reward. 

Edited May 12, 2016 by Haleth

[Straycat80]

I'm thinking if Tai doesn't win the last challenge he's gone. I think the girls might stick together. We'll see. 

[Dust Bunny]

Joe is great, and his win was wonderful, but this was a boring penultimate episode. The pacing was brutal. 

[Pixiebomb]

So, no "loved ones" reward challenge this season?  Or did I miss it??  Maybe Wine Wednesdays have gotten a little out of control. 

[PaperTree]

"I never eat meat".  So I'm suddenly going to stuff myself with a few pounds of red meat because......???

It was shaping up for a good Tribal too.  sigh.  Aubry was set up to whack Cyd or Michelle.

It does blow the final pretty wide open, depending on the Immunity winner of course, but it's hard to say who sticks with whom and who gets whacked.  Fun!

[riverheightsnancy]

**Unpopular Opinion Alert** I think that Tai has played a very good game and I think that he can make a case to the jury of that. Sure, he emotionally flip-flopped (yeah, I didn't like the putting out the fire either-but if that is his only discretion, I can live with it), but I have also seen a lot of other people switch alliances when it suits their personal game and goals. Yet, it seems like Tai gets called out for it more than everyone. Generally speaking, if we have a straight Pagonging with one alliance of 4 from the beginning that dominates, the threads are full of people screaming about how no one shakes it up and takes a risk to change that dynamic. Yet, when Tai does exactly that, people (no one in particular) really hate him for it. It can't be both ways. Staid and boring, or being unpredictable. I think that if Aubry makes it to the end, she may have a hard time convincing everyone of the jury that SHE was the mastermind. Yet, Tai is out there and everyone would acknowledge that he was all over the place, but he played the game and was obvious about it. He found an idol and played hard and did well in challenges. If he gets to tribal and owns his game and apologizes to anyone that eh hurt, he could win. I think that the penis patrol will be more willing to vote for a male than female, just cause of the penis factor. So, even if Scott and Kyle are angry with him, they will feel ok about it, if he flatters them with the standard, "I had to vote you out, you were too strong. And I am sorry".  I think that Tai has been getting a winner's edit, but that is just me. MMV

[dkb]

I feel like anyone of them could win just depends on how the jury is feeling. They all have atleast 1 person they hurt to get to the finals.

I just personally want a final 3 of Aubry, Michelle and Cydney. 

The beginning of the episode with Tai was WTH. He did not play that well at all, and I was like please stop talking Tai, you're making it worse. I don't how Michelle stood there and listened for so long. He just didn't get why she would be pissed.

Aubry has a real read on Tai she knows exactly how he's going to react; she said that he is emotional and we get a scene of him and Aubry making up because she said  something about putting one foot in front of the other. Tai is acting very needy. Not saying I wouldn't react that way, I probably would but  Tai needs to stop thinking that way. And yes Tai, they did try to tell you that maybe we should not vote Michelle and vote Jason and you weren't having it all. 

Let's go girls!!!!

I feel like Aubry will win, and got a pretty good reason; she lost her two biggest "allies" and worked her way from the bottom of the tribe after Neal left, and she made some hard decisions in getting rid of Debbie.

Edited May 12, 2016 by dkb

[Mreid]

Joe winning that reward had to be one of the biggest come backs ever sucks he went out this way This season has just had way too many medevacts for me too many.  I am literally terrified to watch the finale next week I just dont wanna be dissapointed. Im happy with anyone winning except for Michelle. 

[JudyObscure]

Every time Jeff starts laughing about this season having the most  people go out for medical reasons -- like it's all been a bunch of random coincidences -- I just want to smack him.   Maybe if the producers of the show hadn't made everyone do an overly  long, grueling challenge in 100 degree heat, if they hadn't waited until some of them had huge boils that had been festering for days before they were treated, if they hadn't served a reward dinner of beef on the 34th day, maybe it would have been a reasonable season.  Poor Joe. Plus poor Aubry who has spent this entire time nurturing her relationship with him.

[Lamima]

Dud episode. Hope Joe is alright and all that but man what a let down at the end. Was looking forward to TC.

 

Oh yeah...YAY there is no real blatant goat taken to final tribal. Hate that whole goat thing.

Edited May 12, 2016 by Lamima

[PaperTree]

2 minutes ago, dkb said:

 

The beginning of the episode with Tai was WTH. He did not play that well at all, and I was like please stop talking Tai, you're making it worse. I don't how Michelle stood there and listened for so long. He just didn't get why she would be pissed.

Aubry has a real read on Tai she knows exactly how he's going to react; she said that he is emotional and we get a scene of him and Aubry making up because she said  something about putting one foot in front of the other. Tai is acting very needy. 

Tai will win if he makes the final.  I think a lot of his behavior comes from his experience as a Vietnamese boat refugee as a teenager.  He has learned how to survive under terrible real conditions and understands that trust is very fragile.

[ChicksDigScars]

I Tweeted that Peachy needs a headsmack for his "So, Joe. How does it feel to be so close, but lose it all because you're old as fuck?" I hope he reads everything hash tagged #survivor.

I don't know, Jeff, but I'll bet that it's similar to a swift kick in the nuts...can we find out right now? Hold still....

I agree that the producers should be more vigilant about what they're offering these people as reward this far into the game. They're starving. They see food and start shoving it in. No good can come if they gorge themselves, and they probably don't realize that this much protein is BAD for you at this point. God knows that most of them are very uncomfortable after any reward, but perhaps limit the food offered on Day 35? 

And Cyd...YEAH. If you knew Joe was going to make himself sick, why didn't you say anything? He's 72 years old!  I'm sure your winnings will assuage any guilt you must be feeling.

Edited May 12, 2016 by ChicksDigScars

[simplyme]

Given what we've seen of Tai at tribal councils and his complete inability to read a room, he could very well pull off a performance that alienates the jury at FTC.  We won't know unless he ends up there.  (So far, I remain unimpressed by his ability to convince anyone of anything, so I wouldn't be calling him the automatic winner if he makes FTC.)

[mojoween]

When they came back from one of the commercial breaks and Tai was holding Mark and the music was all ominous and shit I thought Mark was going to be the next medivac.  I was very nervous.

Cydney is so irritating.  "Oh noes Tai and Aubrey are having a chummy conversation and that pisses me off so now I'm going to go have a chummy conversation with Michelle and the situation is TOTALLY DIFFERENT."

I'm 30 years younger than Joe with the wrong plumbing so I really don't know, but can a man of a certain age know for sure that the prostate has gone wrong?  He was saying it like he was confident that was part of the problem, not that he was speculating.