S06.E20: Who Do You Believe?

[WireWrap]

He follows everyone on Bravo. Even Brandi, and we know how he feels about her.

The thing that jumps out to me is that he hasn't tweeted or retweeted LVP. There was once a time when he retweeted stuff of hers all the time. They use to go back and forth on Twitter sometimes several times a day. There has been nothing since late last fall.

If Mohammed was through with their friendship he would not still be following her. You don't need to "follow" a person to read their tweets/IG posts.

[WaltersHair]

 

I thought that scene of Eileen talking to her husband about the mean girls was hilarious. It was so obvious that he had no idea what she was talking about!

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[WireWrap]

An interesting tidbit from Kyle's blog tonight.....

 

"What happened that day at LVP's when Rinna said the word Munchausen was very clear to me, which is why I confronted LVP right after. We had the discussion in her bathroom. That is when I said, "I know what you're up to, and I will take you down in flames with me" half laughing, because I just didn't want to make a big deal out of it.
I called Rinna right after to talk to her about their conversation."

 

So Rinna already knew that Kyle knew well before Dubai when Rinna brought it up at that lunch. Why was she acting like Kyle didn't know, like she just dropped this big bomb on Kyle both at that lunch and then again at the dinner and finally on the Yacht? Which makes me question when Eileen knew as well! Oh those soapies, anything for that big dramatic OTT soap reaction on camera. LOL

[zoeysmom]

If Mohamed ended a decades old friendship over LVP's comments he is really a weak person. Reasonable people do not believe his children have Lyme Disease.  LVP saying they are well is not a condemnation of the children.  He used LVP at every turn to get his homes and family on the show.  She defended him to the ends of the earth when Brandi accused him of something unseemly.  These Foster/Hadids are so fake.  I was happy to hear the Yolanda hoped she and David could be friends one day.  Run David run.

[phoenix780]

Rinna is a straight bitch for that conversation with Kim. Using the present tense was uncool.

[LydiaOhLydia]

Kim pulled LR aside to talk ...yet Kim's TH she says ' LR just can't seem to stay in her own space and own business'.  Shut up Kim, your fucked up fuckery is fuckin with my good time.  Bravo must have paid Kim by how many 'engage in conversations' she could complete. 

[yourmomiseasy]

"Are you kidding me?  Why is Kim Richards here?"  Maybe because it is her sister's house and her sister invited her?  Rinna needs to STFU.  And just for good measure, Eileen can fuck off.

Edited April 13, 2016 by yourmomiseasy

[nowcheckthat]

They cut the Eileen vs Kathryn scene!

[renatae]

I'm waiting for the pattern to repeat. Rinna confessed to Yolanda that she said she thought she was a bigger manipulater than LVP. I suppose next week she will find a way to accuse LVP of telling her to say that, just as she first confessed to bringing up Munchausen and now is trying to shift the blame onto LVP because she and Kyle were looking at Yolanda's instagrams and saying, "What do you think about this?" Rinna and Eileen are very accomplished at inferring whatever negative connotation suits them at the moment.

 

I'm just about banging my head against a wall screaming for Rinna to STFU. Could she have been more of a big mouth pain in the ass running around trying to stir up trouble and bury LVP? This was the most ridiculous inexcusable behavior I've ever seen at even one of these parties. Nothing but running around gossiping about everyone, trying to throw LVP under the bus. She barely got in the door before she grabbed Yolanda and started with her revisionist history that LVP started the whole Munchausen conversation. She's accused LVP so much of all this junk she's begun to believe it herself. And this nonsense she keeps throwing out there along with her fellow Greek choruster, Eileen, about LVP throwing Kyle under the bus makes me want to tear my hair out.

 

Rinna's also become so over the top with her resentment of Kim that I am beginning to side with Kim a bit. Who'd a thunk it????

 

Of course, Yolanda appears to hate LVP so much that even though Rinna started all this and they've had words about it several times, she's ready to drink the koolaid and believe Rinna over LVP. Also, on the one hand, she keeps saying she's over it and has better things to do, and then she "engages" about it anyway.

 

Makes me nuts. I'm going to have to go for counseling, LOL. Anyone who makes me forget how much I loathe TMC Faye Resnick has definitely earned a place way at the bottom of my least favored list.

[phoenix780]

Listen. At least Rinna owns her shit. She'll say it to your face and own what she may have been encouraged by Vanderpump to possibly say, maybe. And the world would be a lot better if all of us owned our stuff that others made us say because we're uncensored and they just, I dunno, had a way of encouraging us to say things. That we own.

Rinna really earned her check, I must say. And good for her for getting on what sounded like NBCs version of The View or The Talk.

[renatae]

"I was in a big aluminum baggie for 17 years"

I love it! It's comments like these that have restored my BP to normal levels after this farcefest. Thank you!

[BlackMamba]

They cut the Eileen vs Kathryn scene!

It probably was something manufactured that didn't fit the episodes. I believe it'll be in the secrets revealed.

[BlackMamba]

He follows everyone on Bravo. Even Brandi, and we know how he feels about her.

The thing that jumps out to me is that he hasn't tweeted or retweeted LVP. There was once a time when he retweeted stuff of hers all the time. They use to go back and forth on Twitter sometimes several times a day. There has been nothing since late last fall.

How do you know he doesn't DM LVP? He probably more than likely calls her and goes to her establishments. Just because these celebs, socialites, and reality stars don't tweet each other back and forth for the world to see doesn't mean they are all on bad or good terms.

[WaltersHair]

I don't know that Rinna can handle being so hated by the fans. She's an admitted 'people pleaser' and from the looks of the reunion, she will not come off well.  Going into the next season, she will likely be seen as the villain.

 

I'm really hoping the reunion doesn't turn into a group attack on LVP. I've watched all the franchises for the most part and never has a pile-on worked to pile-on-er's advantage. LVP will look and be the victim in that circumstance. Yolanda will Think she is the victim in all discussion.

[KSerenaK]

And, if I remember correctly, the Parker was first featured on Bravo, on one of their first "reality" shows, way back before Real Housewives made Bravo a popular cable station.

 

The show focused on the behind the scenes work/lives of different employees and their interaction with the guests.

 

I remember that show as well (not too fondly, actually. Main manager was a total a-hole and not in any kind of enjoyable-to-watch way.) Was spending a lot of time in Palm Springs then, so was curious to see how it was depicted.. A little too much Jonanathan Adler design, who seemed to be gaining ascendancy at that time.

I believe it aired in the summer of 2007, so didn't completely pre-date the Real Housewives, with RHOC having begun in 2006.

[Mozelle]

I thought that scene of Eileen talking to her husband about the mean girls was hilarious. It was so obvious that he had no idea what she was talking about!

Would you look at that. Vince does what so many want the HW husbands to do: listen without adding their own commentary; without jumping into the fray, to the point where it looks like they're angling for their own show contract (*cough* Peter Thomas *cough* Todd Tucker *cough* Ken Todd).

He follows everyone on Bravo. Even Brandi, and we know how he feels about her.

The thing that jumps out to me is that he hasn't tweeted or retweeted LVP. There was once a time when he retweeted stuff of hers all the time. They use to go back and forth on Twitter sometimes several times a day. There has been nothing since late last fall.

I'm so curious about the inner workings of all this. It seems to me that Mohamed perhaps took LVP's on-air comments about Gigi and the Non-Gigis as more than just talking about his kids. Maybe it was that he and LVP had private conversations about the kids and about Yolanda, and anything said on camera became an admission that he was talking about his ex-wife/the kids' mother with his friend.

Because from what I've gathered over the years that Yolanda has been on the show, Yolanda and Mohamed have presented a united front as far as their children go. So, as small as LVP's comment at Kyle's non-barbecue may seem, it might've revealed more than Mohamed ever wanted revealed--that there are cracks in the Yolanda-Mohamed United Front Regarding Gigi and the Non-Gigis.

How do you know he doesn't DM LVP? He probably more than likely calls her and goes to her establishments. Just because these celebs, socialites, and reality stars don't tweet each other back and forth for the world to see doesn't mean they are all on bad or good terms.

Oh, goodness DMs? For years, Mohamed and LVP were tweeting each other back and forth for the world to see. That has stopped. And now it's, "Maybe they moved their conversations to DMs"? This I highly doubt.

[biakbiak]

I realize that it was probably edited but I loved how when lisar, Eileen, and Camille arrived Mauricio shouted "Camille" and basically 3lbowed LisaR and Eileen out of the way to give her a hug.

God LisaR you are so awful, I sided with Kim. Eileen and Erika also need to take several seats.

Edited April 13, 2016 by biakbiak

[Darren-5-08]

The Mohamed and Lisa thing confuses me. I am sure there was some beef between them after the comment about the children, but as someone previously said, no one who follows social media believes those children have Lyme disease. When Avril Lavigne was diagnosed, she went away for treatment. Bella Hadid? She hasn't missed a catwalk, fashion show, awards ceremony or photo opportunity in about 3 years. And don't forget about her DUI (which Yo blamed on her Lyme disease, despite being more than twice over the legal limit). I think it's more complicated than we think.

Yo's comment about them not speaking for 8 months is rubbish, though. I guarantee Yo went straight to him with what Lisa said, yet several episodes after he would have known about this he was delivering a horse house to Lisa's home.

I reckon Mohamed knows what Yo is trying to achieve with the comments about her children, as he has been through a lot of Yo's 'chronic illnesses' before (remember, she had their pre-nup thrown out because of some mystery disease she had at the time) and is distancing from Lisa for a while until the season is over and things are no longer being discussed, to avert his children coming into any negative press due to the actions of their mothers ramblings.

[motorcitymom65]

I'm so curious about the inner workings of all this. It seems to me that Mohamed perhaps took LVP's on-air comments about Gigi and the Non-Gigis as more than just talking about his kids. Maybe it was that he and LVP had private conversations about the kids and about Yolanda, and anything said on camera became an admission that he was talking about his ex-wife/the kids' mother with his friend.

Because from what I've gathered over the years that Yolanda has been on the show, Yolanda and Mohamed have presented a united front as far as their children go. So, as small as LVP's comment at Kyle's non-barbecue may seem, it might've revealed more than Mohamed ever wanted revealed--that there are cracks in the Yolanda-Mohamed United Front Regarding Gigi and the Non-Gigis.

Oh, goodness DMs? For years, Mohamed and LVP were tweeting each other back and forth for the world to see. That has stopped. And now it's, "Maybe they moved their conversations to DMs"? This I highly doubt.

Yes to this. The real world stuff is always the most interesting to me. I always thought that of all LVP's friendships, this was the one that mattered the most. The point that Yo and Mo always seemed to want to paint a united front about their relationship is a big deal. Someone mentioned that Mo must be a pretty horrible person to want to end a friendship over something like this, but IMO it is to be expected. LVP brought Mo into it (unless she was manipulated by someone to say what she said on camera). She brought him into something extremely controversial. Saying that he said the kids don't have Lyme is in fact calling Yo a liar on national TV. Worse than calling her a liar. It is saying that she is using her children in some manner and is willing to bring them into her craziness. There is just no other way to take the idea that her kids don't have this ailment, and that Yo is telling the media (and them) that they do. If LVP had private conversations about this and she revealed this information on camera, of course he is going to be furious. We are talking about his kids here. Not a bankruptcy that didn't happen a dozen years ago or something like that. This is huge stuff. I said at the time that nothing had ever been revealed on this show, with the exception of the surrogacy, that was so shocking, and I think this is still true.

Maybe they are still friends, but if so they have taken it out of the public eye. As was mentioned above, they use to be extremely public about their close friendship. He use to tweet a picture every time they had dinner, which was often. Every time she tweeted something about an event or a cause, he retweeted it to his followers. Now, nothing since about the time that incident happened. I find it hard to believe that is all a coincidence. It is possible that they are keeping things on the low down because Yo is upset and Mo doesn't want to upset her more. It is possible that he is telling Yo that he is not talking to LVP anymore, which could mean that Yo believes what she said on WWHL - that they haven spoken in 8 months. Andy seemed to know all about this. I don't think we will have to wait long. I'm sure this is discussed at the reunion. And I am sure LVP will cry about it.

Edited April 13, 2016 by motorcitymom65

[Snappy]

I normally don't read Eileen's blogs since they reveal her life in an alternate universe, but I felt massochistic. After reading her comments about Ken's behavior it occurred to me that despite her statements, Eileen would much rather have a husband who stands by her and defends her when he feels she has been mistreated by others than a husband who makes it painfully obvious that he doesn't care one iota about what she does or how she's feeling. If the tables are ever turned, Vince won't be found by Eileen's side, unless, of course, the table involves poker. Then again there's also the cheating issue. Ken has never cheated on Lisa, nor is that how they met. Given the way Eileen and Vince started their relationship, they're both unreliable as far as marriage goes.

[Neeners]

You know, it's crazy, but I don't mind Kathryn.

 

I don't either, which means that if she is back next season it's probably going to be bad. See: Davidson, Eileen.

[nexxie]

Ken was the perfect little flying monkey once again this episode, escorting the queen narcissist out of the party early and encouraging her to malign those who dared to question her behavior. Classic.

[tenativelyyours]

And, if I remember correctly, the Parker was first featured on Bravo, on one of their first "reality" shows, way back before Real Housewives made Bravo a popular cable station.

 

The show focused on the behind the scenes work/lives of different employees and their interaction with the guests.

 

 

Not quite.  BRAVO had pretty much broken out in its latest successful niche of Project Runway and Top Chef.  Then came the completely different Real Housewives of Orange County.  To fill the scheduling gap that Project Runway and Top Chef could not fill, they created Top Design.  With Jonathan Adler as one of the judges (and senior judge it seemed).  This aired in early 2007.  Real Housewives was already a phenomenon; pretty much out the gate.   And the much larger audiences that Project Runway and Top Chef had built off earlier successes like Queer Eye... helped make that happen.  Real Housewives did not happen in a vacuum as much as Cohen would like people to believe.

 

Anyway, BRAVO was hoping for more reality gold.  Not just in the higher brow Top Design but also in cheaper and easier to film candid shows.  So in mid 2007 they brought along another failed run in the form of Welcome to the Parker.  The Parker had been featured with Alder on BRAVO in other shows,  I think there was even a tie-in built into the Real Housewives?   and the tie remained after including Kathy Griffin filming an episode of her D-list show.  But Welcome to the Parker crashed and burnt like so many and BRAVO did not get its wish really until Vanderpump and her scabby little STD bearing trolls came along.  Maybe the problem wasn't just the show but trying to copy the critical darlings of Project Runway and Top Chef and then use that vehicle for something tawdry and low class.  For tawdry and low class LVP is the ticket clearly.

 

 

 

Yoolander is like that Orly Taitz woman who tried to be the face of the horrifically racist birther movement.  No matter the actual facts she'll be damned if she will stick to them.

 

I think the muddled confusion on the story regarding Rinna is deliberate.  I think Rinna flapped her flapping lips and thought she could nudge a pebble and it would turn into an avalanche and no one would notice or care who started it.  She could remain in the fray for attention but could emerge relatively unscathed.  Either Yoolander would be exposed as the liar she is or LVP and maybe Kyle as well would go down as bullies and insensitive shits for daring to malign a malingering.  Instead she was left out in the open and now is trying to dissemble and deflect.   Simple thing is she said it.  Too bad all the crap she tries to spin it with is just crap.

 

Eileen.  She really needs that cast spot it seems.  Makes me wonder if she knows something about her own career or her marriage or both.  That or she is just a really shitty person.  Well I always thought people who cheat and can't wait to end the relationship they are in before locking thighs with someone else were pretty shitty people.  I think maybe that is part of her problem with LVP.  LVP locked onto Eileen's main character trait.  A cheating self-serving small person.

 

I wish the Erika we saw in her sometimes over the top braggadocio talking heads was the one we saw interacting with others.  She seems such a lickspittle in her interactions or the heavy handed I'm so not like this passive aggressive attitude she then belies in her next scene doing exactly what she scorns the others for doing.  Strong women don't need to proclaim themselves.  Over and over again.  A woman who looks and acts like a concubine on her master's emotional and financial leash?  Well maybe she does need to tell us.  And tell us.   Interesting that she goes after the other newbie so hard.  I'm guessing Erika goes for the small game because she might at best only score a flesh wound and run the risk of being torn to pieces in retaliation.

 

Kyle. Damn.  She might actually owe her sisters Kim and Kathy for pushing her so far that she grew a spine in all regards.  She seems like she actually is taking moments to listen and think before acting and speaking.  She also seems to be putting some actual analytical thinking into what she is hearing the others say.  As annoying as she still can be, she really has come a long way from letting a walking burnt out lightbulb like Camille embroil her in the for camera time feud.  Too bad she has such heinous real life friends because at this point she is the only one I would want to see return. 

 

LVP.  Still LVP.  Still married to Ken.  Who is still alive and yapping his bitter and bile.  Enough said.  Go back to the trash farm you call Vanderpump Rules. 

[mothmonsterman]

I have no idea why I thought that was all Erika's hair.  I just assumed she was an Italian with very thick hair, like one of my friends who has hair just like hers, but it is down to her butt. 

 

To me, Yolanda looks like an old man. I was noticing she started to look more and more like David.  Like one of those old married couples who start to look alike.  I feel like that was a major issue with Yolanda. She was getting older, and not as pretty anymore and she could not handle it.  Throw in menopause, those leaky breast implants, her brush with lyme disease (yes, brush, I believe it is cured) and some depression and BOOM, you have Yolanda not being able to get out of bed. I do understand.  That is a lot of crap to deal with, if she hadn't acted like such an entitled ass we all probably would have had major sympathy for her.  But I don't think she can even admit to herself that her looks and body fading is the major issue.

 

Donnie has really grown on me.  He and Kathryn really seem to have something special.  They love to workout together, spend time together, and have playful banter.  Actually, it's everything I'd want in a relationship. At first I thought she was like a mother figure to him, because he was so young and she is bossy, but I don't see that now.  He just seems like a sweet, earnest man.  Nothing wrong with that.

Edited April 13, 2016 by mothmonsterman

[Jel]

Haven't we seen this episode about five times already this season? So tiresome, and to think, this all started because Lisa asked "so when did the affair start?"  For the love of God everyone, be careful if you ever ask Eileen a question!  I liked ED quite a bit at the start of the season, and now I don't. She seems like a vindictive, unforgiving, dog-with-a-bone weirdo who channels all her own unhappiness and frustrations into one thing and thereby distracts herself from the genuine sources of unhappiness in her life. When those women were sitting around talking about Lisa V, I felt dread for Lisa -- it really did remind me of high school. Just pitiful.

 

What is the true source of Erika's gigantic hate boner for Lisa anyway? Also pitiful.

 

Lisa Rinna's version of "owning it" seems to be her willingness to remind us that she can be crass and vulgar, because she's so real y'all.  I've seen her do that thing when she's talking about her realness! where she says, "This mouth..." while pointing at her mouth. (Thanks for the road map, Lisa Rinna!)  She's not all that "real" though when it comes to talking about stuff that's hurtful to her personally (like her husband); that she'll dive over a table about, or send threatening texts about.  She doesn't want to talk about some sensitive topics, fine, but then don't expect others to either because you are in a mood to "get real". The more I see of this woman the less I like her. Fake fakity fake. Please take Eileen and Erika with you and get the fuck off my tv.

Edited April 13, 2016 by Jel

[walnutqueen]

Lisar : "Why is Kim Richards here?"

 

Me : "Because it's her GODDAMN house!"

[nexxie]

Lisa V's blog is the usual "poor me" con of a narcissist called on her games.

[Llama]

I was too distracted by the new boobs to notice.

And by the over done lashes! She could hardly keep her eyes open lol

[Jack Terrier]

Good blog from Kathryn! http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-6/blogs/kathryn-edwards/kathryn-edwards-i-dont-want-to

She's making me like her now....

I just didn't care too much about her during the season.

[RHJunkie]

So, are y'all noticing Erika stealthily trying to dethrone Vanderpump? Last week she bought a pink clutch. This week pink shoes.

It's on, yo.

Also, I feel like Kathryn's husband outed himself by calling Vanderpump LVP. That's an inappropriate statement on my part. But he's at least read the boards.

 

He may have heard it from Kathryn. She calls Lisa by her first name, last name but I can't recall specifically if she's said LVP on the show. Eileen has used LVP during conversation as well so it could be one of the names they use which he's heard of. It's possible that he does read these boards but it's also possible that he heard it from somewhere in that inner circle, including his wife.

[BlackMamba]

Oh, goodness DMs? For years, Mohamed and LVP were tweeting each other back and forth for the world to see. That has stopped. And now it's, "Maybe they moved their conversations to DMs"? This I highly doubt.

It's quite possible! Sorry if you disagree but we have seen this season have we not. Odds are if Mo and LVP had convos out in the open on social media with thousands of fans chiming in and then these attack dogs like Yo, Rinna, ED and Erika waiting to say something too - why not move your convos to DM! Or cell? Or wherever cameras or social media would limited. I just don't believe Mo and LVP friendship is over because of his ex wife. That's bs.

[BlackMamba]

I'm glad she said this

 

 

 

 

Who the hell is Erika to tell someone who they can like or be friends with. 

 

The plan to take LVP down this season was obvious and it failed once again. I loved watching Eileen & Rinna stomp out of the party because they didn't get their precious "resolution" as LVP remained unbothered by their petty nonsense.

 

I love how Kathyn isn't falling for the mean girl squad trying to get her to jump ship!  Kathryn is basically like "Im looking at you bitches subjectively."

[zoeysmom]

Yes to this. The real world stuff is always the most interesting to me. I always thought that of all LVP's friendships, this was the one that mattered the most. The point that Yo and Mo always seemed to want to paint a united front about their relationship is a big deal. Someone mentioned that Mo must be a pretty horrible person to want to end a friendship over something like this, but IMO it is to be expected. LVP brought Mo into it (unless she was manipulated by someone to say what she said on camera). She brought him into something extremely controversial. Saying that he said the kids don't have Lyme is in fact calling Yo a liar on national TV. Worse than calling her a liar. It is saying that she is using her children in some manner and is willing to bring them into her craziness. There is just no other way to take the idea that her kids don't have this ailment, and that Yo is telling the media (and them) that they do. If LVP had private conversations about this and she revealed this information on camera, of course he is going to be furious. We are talking about his kids here. Not a bankruptcy that didn't happen a dozen years ago or something like that. This is huge stuff. I said at the time that nothing had ever been revealed on this show, with the exception of the surrogacy, that was so shocking, and I think this is still true.

Maybe they are still friends, but if so they have taken it out of the public eye. As was mentioned above, they use to be extremely public about their close friendship. He use to tweet a picture every time they had dinner, which was often. Every time she tweeted something about an event or a cause, he retweeted it to his followers. Now, nothing since about the time that incident happened. I find it hard to believe that is all a coincidence. It is possible that they are keeping things on the low down because Yo is upset and Mo doesn't want to upset her more. It is possible that he is telling Yo that he is not talking to LVP anymore, which could mean that Yo believes what she said on WWHL - that they haven spoken in 8 months. Andy seemed to know all about this. I don't think we will have to wait long. I'm sure this is discussed at the reunion. And I am sure LVP will cry about it.

I just think Yolanda makes the kids' fake illness all about her.  Maybe by forcing rounds of bullshit drugs and supplements down their throats, making idiotic claims about their brain function and struggles, and claiming to only live to see her quest for Lyme Disease cure for her children.  Maybe the reason Yolanda wigged out over Munchausen by Proxy is she feels a little guilty. 

 

If Yolanda is the arbiter of all friendships and cannot be close to LVP, other than Hollywood friend close because of her allegiance to Mohamed-how the hell did she ever become friends with David?  It seems from media photos David is still socializing with Mohamed, so I question so much of what these people come up with to defend their position. 

 

The façade of the perfect family Hadid is just starting to chip away.  There is just no way they can be both on reality TV and enjoy the fake Ozzie and Harriet family there are putting out there.  Maybe it is time for the birth parents to let their model children enjoy the spotlight-solo.  I would hope that is what Mohamed is doing but damn the House of Hadid are incredible fame 'hos.  Now he is coasting off his children's fame.

[The Mighty Peanut]

I just don't understand what Rinna wants from people in the name of "truth", "ownership", and "resolution". It's like she wants everybody to break up. She wants Kyle to break up with LVP. She wants Ericka to break up with Yolanda. She wants Yolanda to break up with Kim and Brandi. She appears to want Kim to break up with the human race and live in a kennel with other rabid dogs drinking only tap water for the rest of her life. She doesn't seem to acknowledge Kathryn's existence.  In the words of Ramona Singer, I don't GET it.

 

The funny thing is she GOT a lot of resolution, just not the kind she wanted (whatever that is). Kim tried to establish a more cordial, if not friendly relationship. Yolanda said she was done rehashing the munchies. Kyle and LVP agreed to disagree. Really the only thing was LVP not admitting to pushing LR to introduce the M-word, but ffs LVP stood in the kitchen with Kyle and made light of Mauricio's alleged affairs in front of Portia and didn't apologize. She has a hard time apologizing, you have to accept it or don't, it's not news. 

Edited April 13, 2016 by The Mighty Peanut

[ElDosEquis]

I agree, Miley Cyrus' hair on her head is not a good look.

The 'angry middle aged parrot look' was appropriate.

Rinna by a landslide.  Over 50 points I think.  LVP was second I think with 16, followed by Eileen with 15.  Don't quote me but that's very close.

We'll know better after the conventions this summer?

[Jel]

I just looked at Rinna's blog where she names the name of the hairdresser who said Yo might have Munchausen syndrome. 

 

Another example of Rinna being really good about "keeping it real" when it puts someone else's neck on the line.

 

She's a piece of work.

[ElDosEquis]

While I do believe Ken is besotted with love for his wife, I am always put off at how nasty he can be when attacking the women with whom Lisa is at war. It is not a good luck...at all. And it's not the first time we've seen it. He seemed so angry when he called Lisa a stupid bitch. Just totally overblown given the stupid disagreement that his wife was having with Lisa.

That said, Lisa R sounded so fake in her conversation with Yolanda. When Yolanda was trying to get her to admit Lisa V brought up Munchausens, Lisa could not say yes because it was an outright lie but wanted to try to implicate Lisa nonetheless so we get this meaningless babble coming out of her mouth.

 

Man rules?

 

You defend you wife - in person.

You listen to what she has to say about things, nod yes and don't offer an opinion, unless asked.

You don't get into pissing contests with women, they pee sitting down and never get THEIR shoes wet.

You never curse a woman out, especially when there are people (viewers) in the room.

Stay the fuck out of the feuds. It's not a good look when you square off against a women, IF you are a man.

[njbchlover]

It's all on film, ladies, as to that day Lisa R had her phone and looked up the definition of Munchausen's, was sitting with Kyle (I think) when they were talking about it. I swear, if Andy doesn't replay that scene, I'm going to be furious.

This is all so manufactured and rehearsed, and yet they keep dragging up the same shit over and over again. I wanted to see more fancy food and drink tonight, not Kyle in that ill-fitting dress tugging at the straps and Lisa R running from sofa to sofa to have talks and "get things off my chest."

 

I wonder if, when Kyle sent out invitations for this party, the party was titled "The RRR Party", for "Rinna's Retribution/Resolution" party.

I thought that scene of Eileen talking to her husband about the mean girls was hilarious. It was so obvious that he had no idea what she was talking about!

 

To me, it seemed like Vince really didn't give a shit about any of it.  

 

Interesting to me, too, was that the soap sisters traveled alone to Kyle's party.  Where were their husbands?  

[catalogrrr]

I haven't seen this episode yet. I was looking at the Canadian website for the channel that airs this show and saw that the reunion is going to be in three parts. THREE PARTS?! Oof. I don't know if I can handle all the screaming and finger pointing for three weeks.

 

I started watching RHOBH for LisaR and Eileen, and I still want to love them but I can't. I just can't.

 

I can't with the "cunty" and I can't with the hearing aids and I can't with the LemonLymesMunchyMousen and I can't with Kyle's too long hair and Jiggy not having any and I can't with Ken's weird hair and leather skin and I can't with LVP's cleavage and I can't with the very idea of Brandi coming back.

 

I just can't.

[motorcitymom65]

I just think Yolanda makes the kids' fake illness all about her.  Maybe by forcing rounds of bullshit drugs and supplements down their throats, making idiotic claims about their brain function and struggles, and claiming to only live to see her quest for Lyme Disease cure for her children.  Maybe the reason Yolanda wigged out over Munchausen by Proxy is she feels a little guilty. 

 

If Yolanda is the arbiter of all friendships and cannot be close to LVP, other than Hollywood friend close because of her allegiance to Mohamed-how the hell did she ever become friends with David?  It seems from media photos David is still socializing with Mohamed, so I question so much of what these people come up with to defend their position. 

 

The façade of the perfect family Hadid is just starting to chip away.  There is just no way they can be both on reality TV and enjoy the fake Ozzie and Harriet family there are putting out there.  Maybe it is time for the birth parents to let their model children enjoy the spotlight-solo.  I would hope that is what Mohamed is doing but damn the House of Hadid are incredible fame 'hos.  Now he is coasting off his children's fame.

I certainly agree that Yo makes the children's illness about her. But then she makes everything about her. I also don't believe for one single second that these kids have Lyme. IMO that has nothing do with why Mo would be mad at LVP, or maybe it has everything to do with it. If in fact they are not ill, and Yo is helping to subject them to unnecessary treatments, this would most certainly be a cause for concern. Very real concern. I've never much liked Mo, but will say that in watching him on Twitter, he seems to be an amazing father. Very involved and loving. At the same time, those kids seem to adore Yo. I can fault her for so much, but her kids love her to death, that is evident. I would imagine that he is very concerned for them, as they hear on TV that their father has told someone that they are not really ill; that their mother is making it all up. They are very protective of her, and I am sure that if she was upset, they were upset. Thus Mo would be upset. I cannot imagine calling him out for taking up for his kids over LVP, who it would seem betrayed him on national TV. 

I just looked at Rinna's blog where she names the name of the hairdresser who said Yo might have Munchausen syndrome. 

 

Another example of Rinna being really good about "keeping it real" when it puts someone else's neck on the line.

 

She's a piece of work.

I hope that she didn't do this without the permission of the hairdresser. I assumed that she did, because early on she didn't name her. Later (in her blog a couple of weeks ago) she did. I would guess that her friend told her to feel free to use her name to maybe get out of hot water. I would hope so at least. 

[njbchlover]

LisaR seems seetheingly mad at Kim.  I don't get the rage targeted at Kim. Get over it already. 

 

Kyle looked beautiful at her party. The house seemed a little empty. It was nice of LisaV to apologize to Faye.

 

I agree - I think her rage at Kim was because Kim, even in her addled brain, outed LisaR's nastiness during the Reunion last year, by putting out the nasty texts LisaR sent to Kim.  

 

I think that LisaR expected everyone to applaud her for bringing Kim's addiction problems out in the open, like she is some champion for addicts or something.  Unfortunately, Kim had a bigger influence on the original ladies (Kyle, LVP, Yolanda and Brandi), and her public outing of Kim didn't go as well as she hoped.  Also, her behavior after, with the threatening and nasty texts really made LisaR look very bad.

I remember that show as well (not too fondly, actually. Main manager was a total a-hole and not in any kind of enjoyable-to-watch way.) Was spending a lot of time in Palm Springs then, so was curious to see how it was depicted.. A little too much Jonanathan Adler design, who seemed to be gaining ascendancy at that time.

I believe it aired in the summer of 2007, so didn't completely pre-date the Real Housewives, with RHOC having begun in 2006.

 

You're right - I probably started watching the show about the Parker because I watched RHOC!!   ;-)

 

And, yes, the show was pretty bad!!

Edited April 13, 2016 by njbchlover

[kokapetl]

Ken was the perfect little flying monkey once again this episode, escorting the queen narcissist out of the party early and encouraging her to malign those who dared to question her behavior. Classic.

He's such an annoying little henchman/bodyguard. And if Lisa insists on having him around to argue for her, she can wear his "dumb bitch" comments, along with all the nasty shit he's said, as though she said them herself.

[ElDosEquis]

Yo revels in the turmoil/talk she generates in the group, go back and watch her smirking.

 

Eri-cunta is a loathsome beast. Her videos with the bipolar sex kitten character are a hoot.  I guess you can have all the top ten 'hit's if you own your own record label?

She is the mean, nasty POS with no friends - unless she says you MUST be her friend and even then? Who needs someone who pushes you into a fight, while they stand off to the side?

 

[Jel]

One more epi and Rinna will be pointing at Lisa and demanding to know if she went to Bass Lake. Book it!

[zoeysmom]

I certainly agree that Yo makes the children's illness about her. But then she makes everything about her. I also don't believe for one single second that these kids have Lyme. IMO that has nothing do with why Mo would be mad at LVP, or maybe it has everything to do with it. If in fact they are not ill, and Yo is helping to subject them to unnecessary treatments, this would most certainly be a cause for concern. Very real concern. I've never much liked Mo, but will say that in watching him on Twitter, he seems to be an amazing father. Very involved and loving. At the same time, those kids seem to adore Yo. I can fault her for so much, but her kids love her to death, that is evident. I would imagine that he is very concerned for them, as they hear on TV that their father has told someone that they are not really ill; that their mother is making it all up. They are very protective of her, and I am sure that if she was upset, they were upset. Thus Mo would be upset. I cannot imagine calling him out for taking up for his kids over LVP, who it would seem betrayed him on national TV. 

I hope that she didn't do this without the permission of the hairdresser. I assumed that she did, because early on she didn't name her. Later (in her blog a couple of weeks ago) she did. I would guess that her friend told her to feel free to use her name to maybe get out of hot water. I would hope so at least. 

LVP didn't betray the kids.  What the hell they had this hidden illness according to Yolanda since before her.   Taking it in the best/worst possible light, LVP misinterpreted Mohamed's comment.  When someone gets so worked up over a semi-benign comment it indicates to me there is truth behind it.  Mohamed and Yolanda not agreeing about a healthcare decision for their children is not unusual.  According to Bella she essentially did not take antibiotics, painkillers or steroids, so I question just what is she being treated with and why don't these people ever get well?

 

I agree Mohamed devotes a lot of social media times to his children.  At this point I think it is time to dial it back-not because of what LVP said, just because they have their own fan clubs.  When people go so overboard trying to convince me of their perfect family and perfect children, I take notice and just think they are trying too hard. 

 

As to Rinna's hairdresser, why would we care who laid out such a diagnosis about Yolanda?  I think Yolanda said it best last night, there are some things tht sorry aren't enough and she is not forgiving Rinna.  Maybe Rinna should follow Yolanda's advice and think before she speaks.  This even goes to the strap-on comment-after it aired Rinna is out there denying, why does she say such things to begin with?

[beeziebee]

Yo's new condo/healing space--did anyone catch a look at that piece of art, I couldn't tell whether it was an enhanced photograph or a fabric wall hanging that appeared on the right side of the screen?  It appears to be Gigi.  That's very nice.  She's beautiful and all, but how does that make the non-Gigis feel?  This is supposedly the new family home, and my mom has a gigantic homage to my model sister overtaking the living room.  Favoritism much, Yo?

[motorcitymom65]

LisaR seems seetheingly mad at Kim.  I don't get the rage targeted at Kim. Get over it already. 

 

Kyle looked beautiful at her party. The house seemed a little empty. It was nice of LisaV to apologize to Faye.

I don't get the Lisar rage against Kim either. She was propped up by this early in the season. It was nuts from the beginning the way she was going after her, yet I think she felt like the popular girl because lots of people on social media and on blogs were saying that it was OK for her to be so nasty. She had been hurt and scared by Kim, so she had every right to state her opinion. That was never the point. The point was that it was scary the way that she couldn't let it go. It hadn't impacted her life to the degree she pretended it did, and her inability to let it go said something very scary about her personality. Especially in light of the fact that she knew Kyle didn't like it. She cared little about Kyle's feelings because of her need to wallow in her own. That's the thing about these shows; there is always going to be the appearance of hypocrisy from the beginning of the season to the end. Bravo loves to set it up like this. Have Lisar unable to let the thing with Kim go because she needs to tell her truth. Most are fine with it because the don't like Kim, so who cares. Then she takes that same nugget of her personality and points it towards LVP. Suddenly she is an evil woman because LVP is more likable than Kim is. The situations weren't exactly the same, but the ugly element of Lisar's personality were exactly the same. They like to make us take sides and decide that you can do whatever you want to someone the fans hate, but cannot do the same thing to the person that fans love. They love to do this to us every single season. 

 

I also loved the part where LVP apologized to Faye. This is when I like LVP.  When she is spontaneous. She is like that the most with Kyle, which is why I love them together. It was also gracious on her part, although she doesn't feel any differently about Faye. She knew that was what Kyle wanted; that it was important to her and it cost LVP nothing to deliver such a gift. Delicious. 

 

 

As to Rinna's hairdresser, why would we care who laid out such a diagnosis about Yolanda?  I think Yolanda said it best last night, there are some things tht sorry aren't enough and she is not forgiving Rinna.  Maybe Rinna should follow Yolanda's advice and think before she speaks.  This even goes to the strap-on comment-after it aired Rinna is out there denying, why does she say such things to begin with?

I don't care who made the M diagnosis, but there has been a ton of conversation about it here and over on Vulture, so some people must care. People saying she just made it up, or that she heard it from Taylor. I think that is why she gave the name. 

[missyb]

It was also gracious on her part, although she doesn't feel any differently about Faye. She knew that was what Kyle wanted; that it was important to her and it cost LVP nothing to deliver such a gift. Delicious.

I would not say she delivered the "sorry for being rude" line graciously. Faye was much more gracious, but, it was pure Lisa Vanderpump and I think she meant it. The appreciated Faye's comment about making intakes and moving on.

 

Did anyone note that when LisaR sat down with her manager to discuss new projects, he thought "unfiltered" was a good word for Lisa. She almost fell off her chair and said she preferred Uncensored. He still liked Unfiltered.  He had no idea that that was the name of a notorious ex-housewife's rather successful wine and podcast. LisaR sure did !!!!! Her expression said it all 

[motorcitymom65]

LVP didn't betray the kids.  What the hell they had this hidden illness according to Yolanda since before her.   Taking it in the best/worst possible light, LVP misinterpreted Mohamed's comment.  When someone gets so worked up over a semi-benign comment it indicates to me there is truth behind it.  Mohamed and Yolanda not agreeing about a healthcare decision for their children is not unusual.  According to Bella she essentially did not take antibiotics, painkillers or steroids, so I question just what is she being treated with and why don't these people ever get well?

 

She didn't necessarily betray the kids, but if she hurt or upset their mother, than she hurt and upset them.  If you betray my mother, I will also feel betrayed. Not everyone would be down with this, but some people would.

 

It reminds me of when people thought it silly for Adrienne to be upset about the surrogacy deal. Brandi didn't actually do anything to the kids. No one was harmed. It wasn't like she went after them. Her beef was with Adrienne, so why make it about how Brandi harmed her family? That's just a technicality IMO. 

[njbchlover]

Yo's new condo/healing space--did anyone catch a look at that piece of art, I couldn't tell whether it was an enhanced photograph or a fabric wall hanging that appeared on the right side of the screen?  It appears to be Gigi.  That's very nice.  She's beautiful and all, but how does that make the non-Gigis feel?  This is supposedly the new family home, and my mom has a gigantic homage to my model sister overtaking the living room.  Favoritism much, Yo?

 

I couldn't figure out that art piece, either, but I did think it was beautiful.  I also noticed that the "wall of love" hand-painted canvases were hanging up opposite that piece, though.