dubbel zout June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 I could see Patrick returning for a shortish time as a neurological consultant, but I doubt either the show or JT would want that. Link to comment
jsbt June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 (edited) I'd be fine with short stints. But I just can't see what there is for Patrick to do solo on contract now. We tried that when Kimberly left, it could've been viable but it was botched; the audience has no patience for a second attempt. Edited June 17, 2019 by jsbt Link to comment
YaddaYadda June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 JT comes to GH as Drew Cane. FV would do it just because he is FV. 6 Link to comment
WendyCR72 June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 4 hours ago, YaddaYadda said: JT comes to GH as Drew Cane. FV would do it just because he is FV. The sad thing is, I can totally see Frank pulling something like that. Along with a ton of winks from Mac/Robert or whomever about how Drew looks like someone they know. 2 Link to comment
HeatLifer June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 (edited) I wouldn’t care if JT came back. As Patrick or another character, it wouldn’t bother me. This show is already trash. Do I particularly want it, though? No. But it’s not the “Scrubs need to be paired” factor. It’s that Robin is trashed EVERY TIME and I don’t have trust in Frank to not to throw her in another cage. Edited June 18, 2019 by HeatLifer 1 Link to comment
CeChase June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 I'm not surprised at Billy Miller leaving. I think at one point, he stayed for Kemo. Like maybe the past year. I won't be that shocked if she doesn't re-sign either. I realize she doesn't have the options Miller has (well, as far as I know), but she does have some fu money sitting around. I guess we'll see. I have to say, early on, before Burton returned, they were fantastic. But that's a long time gone now, and it's probably for the best. It would still be better if burton and mo left. Honestly Miller is probably 1 out of 3 fuckable actors on the show. Mo and burton make me want to gag. But what are you going to do. 1 11 Link to comment
jsbt June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 Who are the other two? Don't make me guess! 2 1 Link to comment
HeatLifer June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 2 hours ago, CeChase said: I won't be that shocked if she doesn't re-sign either Don’t tease me. 2 Link to comment
Hater June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 4 hours ago, HeatLifer said: Don’t tease me. Lol. Girl, come on you know she'll never leave. 1 Link to comment
HeatLifer June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 Oh, and I forgot to add re: JT, I still think it’s quite ...interesting... that some people think that man’s employment/character is more important than Kimberly’s legacy on this show. Link to comment
tvgoddess June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 12 hours ago, CeChase said: Honestly Miller is probably 1 out of 3 fuckable actors on the show. Agreed. 11 hours ago, jsbt said: Who are the other two? Don't make me guess! For me personally, the other two would be DT and JS (the actor who plays Chase). I suppose there are a couple of others I wouldn't kick out of bed, but this show is sorely lacking in attractive men and capable acting on the male side. Has been for a long time. 4 Link to comment
HeatLifer June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, jsbt said: LOL. Good luck with that plan, buddy. That and the Sam fans’ “Patrick should come back after divorcing Robin, bringing back their kids with him, and then crawling to fuck Sam again.” While there’s many ideas there to mock, did no one just see what happened with Drew/Billy Miller? The mighty Steve Burton will always win, you guys. It’s tragic, I know. 3 Link to comment
jsbt June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 If I had control of this show in the magical land of Nod, I'd 'kill' Jason again. Little Cassadine-brainwashed Jake would gun him down. I'd relegate Steve to recurring stints from then on (you can never get rid of him entirely, I suspect, at least not with GH on network). What's he gonna do about it in 2020? Go back to Y&R? DAYS and their payday loans? 2 Link to comment
HeatLifer June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, jsbt said: If I had control of this show in the magical land of Nod, I'd 'kill' Jason again. Little Cassadine-brainwashed Jake would gun him down. I'd relegate Steve to recurring stints from then on (you can never get rid of him entirely, I suspect, at least not with GH on network). What's he gonna do about it in 2020? Go back to Y&R? DAYS and their payday loans? Personally, I think it’s Monaco’s time to go. I can actually think of reasons why Jason could be on canvas; I got nothing for Sam anymore. 5 Link to comment
jsbt June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, HeatLifer said: Personally, I think it’s Monaco’s time to go. I can actually think of reasons why Jason could be on canvas; I got nothing for Sam anymore. Kelly has been bored to tears for over ten years but I can take or leave Sam with the right material and possibly partner. (Not Drew, he's done) I don't care that much but I am considering audience share. Jason is the same situation. AFAIC Jason and Steve Burton are a cancer on the show, but as long as the show is dependent on network ratings and eyes (and not on, say, a streaming service where you can rehab the show with all bets and old rules off) you still have to manage that longtime unquestioning fanbase. If it was up to me he'd be dead forever, but instead the smarter move would be to relegate him to stints. 7 Link to comment
HeatLifer June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, jsbt said: take or leave Sam with the right material and possibly partner. I’d say her best on-screen partners (on GH) were GV and BM and still, she bored me. Sam just isn’t that interesting, mostly because her character traits are tied to men. Her personality changes and fluctuates depending on who she is currently dating, so her inconsistencies are annoying to follow as a viewer. The show also doesn’t seem to care about any relationships she has outside of her man at the moment. 7 minutes ago, jsbt said: If it was up to me he'd be dead forever, but instead the smarter move would be to relegate him to stints. I think most all the vets should be relegated to stints, tbh. But, like you said, it seems like they’re only catering to this “longtime fanbase” because they have to. Otherwise, if this show was still successful, they would have already transitioned to the new generation and Sonny/Carly/Jason/Sam would be background fodder. 5 Link to comment
statsgirl June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 53 minutes ago, HeatLifer said: Personally, I think it’s Monaco’s time to go. I can actually think of reasons why Jason could be on canvas; I got nothing for Sam anymore. I can see the point of having Jason on screen because he's so tied to Sonny and he is a Quartermaine even though SBu wants to ignore that. But he should never have a love interest again or be in a relationship. The show's actresses need to be protected from that. 1 4 Link to comment
BlancheDevoreaux June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 14 hours ago, CeChase said: I'm not surprised at Billy Miller leaving. I think at one point, he stayed for Kemo. Like maybe the past year. I won't be that shocked if she doesn't re-sign either. Dare we dream? 1 hour ago, tvgoddess said: Agreed. For me personally, the other two would be DT and JS (the actor who plays Chase). I suppose there are a couple of others I wouldn't kick out of bed, but this show is sorely lacking in attractive men and capable acting on the male side. Has been for a long time. You have excellent taste in men. 1 Link to comment
HeatLifer June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, statsgirl said: But he should never have a love interest again or be in a relationship. Oh, I agree. I may be in the minority, but I don’t think every character has to be in a romantic relationship. And the people who solely watch for that are missing out and are typically never satisfied. 5 Link to comment
Hater June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 Kelly has never taken a break her entire time on this show where others have had whether it was maternity leave or not. To me it’s about time damn Sam gets a rest. They’re so out of story ideas for her and Jason that the character just set up her own sexual assault. But the show and actress are too stubborn to do so. Welp. She’s not leaving until the lights are off for good. 6 Link to comment
jsbt June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 54 minutes ago, statsgirl said: I can see the point of having Jason on screen because he's so tied to Sonny and he is a Quartermaine even though SBu wants to ignore that. But he should never have a love interest again or be in a relationship. The show's actresses need to be protected from that. That's why I suggested stints. It keeps him isolated. You can play a romantic tension or beat without having to fully commit him. 1 Link to comment
WendyCR72 June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 3 hours ago, HeatLifer said: Oh, and I forgot to add re: JT, I still think it’s quite ...interesting... that some people think that man’s employment/character is more important than Kimberly’s legacy on this show. Yeah...no. 2 Link to comment
WendyCR72 June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 2 hours ago, HeatLifer said: That and the Sam fans’ “Patrick should come back after divorcing Robin, bringing back their kids with him, and then crawling to fuck Sam again.” While there’s many ideas there to mock, did no one just see what happened with Drew/Billy Miller? The mighty Steve Burton will always win, you guys. It’s tragic, I know. Sam is where interesting characters go to die. Alexis was better off before her, Patrick, Ric (who was basically destroyed after their ickfest). Of course, there are exceptions: Jason sucks even more, so maybe quarantining them to each other is for the common good. 2 1 Link to comment
30 Helens June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 3 hours ago, HeatLifer said: I think most all the vets should be relegated to stints, tbh. But, like you said, it seems like they’re only catering to this “longtime fanbase” because they have to. I’m a longtime fanbase! Why won’t they cater to ME?? (Tossing out Sam and Jason would be my first request.) 6 Link to comment
yowsah1 June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 (edited) On 6/17/2019 at 12:24 AM, WendyCR72 said: How did he burn his bridges? I don't recall him skewering TPTB. (Although I wouldn't blame him if he did.) On 6/17/2019 at 11:13 AM, jsbt said: I don't think JT burned his bridges at all. JT made it quite clear that he disliked the two pairings that were written for him when Robin was off canvas, then abruptly announced he was leaving for Y&R. Those bridges lit up the night sky. On 6/17/2019 at 12:35 PM, YaddaYadda said: JT comes to GH as Drew Cane. FV would do it just because he is FV. On 6/17/2019 at 4:40 PM, WendyCR72 said: The sad thing is, I can totally see Frank pulling something like that. Along with a ton of winks from Mac/Robert or whomever about how Drew looks like someone they know. If FV somehow decides he just has to have JT back in the cast (despite ample evidence that, without KMc around to carry his sorry ass, he is incapable of acting), he should bring him back as Patrick's brother Matt. Matt could be recently paroled from prison and back in town looking to see if he can reignite the spark between himself and Maxie. Also, rumor has it that Gina Tognoni is campaigning hard for FV to bring JT back as Patrick with herself as recast Robin. This idea is so utterly horrible I'm willing to bet that FV is seriously considering it. Edited June 19, 2019 by yowsah1 Link to comment
ulkis June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 17 minutes ago, yowsah1 said: JT made it quite clear that he disliked the two pairings that were written for him when Robin was off canvas, then abruptly announced he was leaving for Y&R. Those bridges lit up the night sky. Abruptly? Those rumors of him leaving were circling for months. 4 Link to comment
jsbt June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, yowsah1 said: JT made it quite clear that he disliked the two pairings that were written for him when Robin was off canvas, then abruptly announced he was leaving for Y&R. Those bridges lit up the night sky. JT and most of America, yes. But he played them, and he got into no feuds with Frank Valentini or anyone at GH. He left with a normal exit. There were no 'bridges burned' and no rumors of BTS turmoil with him or the EP. Like Dominic Zamprogna, he simply was tired of it and chose to leave. It happens all the time. Quote Also, rumor has it that Gina Tognoni is campaigning hard for FV to bring JT back as Patrick with herself as recast Robin. A delusional fantasy from the always eminently sane Y&R internet crowd which blames two real life actors for a shitty fictional pairing and believes Gina Tognoni liking tweets about an actor she personally enjoyed working with is on par with Steve Burton peddling berry juice snake oil illegally. Edited June 19, 2019 by jsbt 7 Link to comment
HeatLifer June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 If Gina played Robin she’d morph into Carly. 🙃 1 Link to comment
WendyCR72 June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 2 hours ago, jsbt said: JT and most of America, yes. But he played them, and he got into no feuds with Frank Valentini or anyone at GH. He left with a normal exit. There were no 'bridges burned' and no rumors of BTS turmoil with him or the EP. Like Dominic Zamprogna, he simply was tired of it and chose to leave. It happens all the time. Exactly. Ron pushed Patrick/Sabrina HARD. And he pushed Sabrina on the back of "dead Robin", even more so than Patrick EVER was, IMO. Sabrina used the Nurse's Ball in the name of Robin to ingratiate herself to Robin's widower. And in the process, Patrick's personality vanished to play Sabrina's prince. Ron even tried to make the Scrubs and Patrick/Sabrina pairings on equal ground with a kid and Patrick being torn. The only problem is? The audience called bullshit. And whether JT agreed or not, as @jsbt rightfully points out, he still played it. And played the pairing once more when Patrick suddenly forgot his animosity towards Jason so he and Sam could play "happy family fuck adventure buddies." Frank got rid of the writers that built Scrubs and replaced them with writers that couldn't do jack shit but "insta-luv". It's no wonder the pairings failed. JT saw the (bad) writing on the wall, knew Patrick meant zip to Frank as his own character, and he left. Seems pretty straightforward to me. And the Gina Tognoni as Robin rumor sounds like a huge joke. And, anyway, I thought I read more than once that GT often traveled from back east to tape for Y&R, so unless she gets one hell of an offer, I don't see how commuting again to another west-coast soap would be of benefit to her (except that west coast soaps are all that are left. But I did read she commuted from back east. Maybe she will try for guest prime time roles?). 5 Link to comment
jsbt June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 (edited) There is absolutely no chance anyone is considering Gina Tognoni as Robin, let alone GT being stupid enough to try to put herself out there for it. It's a hate fantasy from someone super crazed about a bad story she had on Y&R and personalizing it. The TWOP Y&R board used to be fucking nuts re: actor shit. Edited June 19, 2019 by jsbt 1 2 Link to comment
CeChase June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 On 6/18/2019 at 1:12 AM, jsbt said: Who are the other two? Don't make me guess! LOL. Well, Curtis and Chase IMO. 20 hours ago, tvgoddess said: Agreed. For me personally, the other two would be DT and JS (the actor who plays Chase). I suppose there are a couple of others I wouldn't kick out of bed, but this show is sorely lacking in attractive men and capable acting on the male side. Has been for a long time. I answered before I read your answer. We are SOOOO on the same page. lol 3 Link to comment
CeChase June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 17 hours ago, Hater said: Kelly has never taken a break her entire time on this show where others have had whether it was maternity leave or not. To me it’s about time damn Sam gets a rest. They’re so out of story ideas for her and Jason that the character just set up her own sexual assault. But the show and actress are too stubborn to do so. Welp. She’s not leaving until the lights are off for good. Kelly probably never took maternity leave because she never had a baby. This is just a guess, mind. 5 2 Link to comment
Sake614 June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 I’d add JJY and TR to the list of fuckable men 😀 6 Link to comment
amaranta June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 List of fuckable men (character names): Drew Curtis Chase Jacks / Jax (never been sure which one it is...) Robert Mac I'm going to add Lucas and Kevin. (I've liked Lindstrom for a very, very long time. And I think Carnes is kind of hot.) 7 Link to comment
Hater June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, CeChase said: Kelly probably never took maternity leave because she never had a baby. This is just a guess, mind. My point is she’s never had to or willingly done so while others have. It’s about time she does but she won’t because she knows she will most likely never be able to act again. I mean given how awful and pitiful she is on screen. Who would hire her? Edited June 19, 2019 by Hater 3 Link to comment
BlancheDevoreaux June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 Robert and Mac are definitely a pair of silver foxes. IR still looks so good. He and Steve Burton are the same age. Ingo spends his spare time in Australia and Hawaii surfing and paddle boarding in the sun, but still looks yummy. Meanwhile, Steve looks like a botoxed purse. I guess there's no accounting for genes. I think the hottest characters on the show are Chase, Curtis, Drew, Jax, and Robert. Nathan was also crazy hot. Couldn't act for beans, but I'd watch him read the phonebook. 3 3 Link to comment
CeChase June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, BlancheDevoreaux said: Robert and Mac are definitely a pair of silver foxes. IR still looks so good. He and Steve Burton are the same age. Ingo spends his spare time in Australia and Hawaii surfing and paddle boarding in the sun, but still looks yummy. Meanwhile, Steve looks like a botoxed purse. I guess there's no accounting for genes. I think the hottest characters on the show are Chase, Curtis, Drew, Jax, and Robert. Nathan was also crazy hot. Couldn't act for beans, but I'd watch him read the phonebook. Jax is handsome but I don't find him fuckable because of the actor in real life, but I am not allowed to say why here, it is a verboten subject, understandably so. The others are too old for my taste. But yeah, Nathan when he was on? For sure. 1 hour ago, Hater said: My point is she’s never had to or willingly done so while others have. It’s about time she does but she won’t because she knows she will most likely never be able to act again. I mean given how awful and pitiful she is on screen. Who would hire her? I don't have the energy to hate on a lady this much. Sorry. 2 Link to comment
Hater June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, CeChase said: I don't have the energy to hate on a lady this much. Sorry. This is hate to you? Lol. Saying she’s a bad actress and won’t get a job after gh is not hating. It’s an opinion many share on this board. No one is asking you do anything. Edited June 19, 2019 by Hater 6 Link to comment
tvgoddess June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 8 hours ago, Sake614 said: I’d add JJY and TR to the list of fuckable men 😀 Those were my other two I wouldn't kick out. Link to comment
tvgoddess June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 3 hours ago, CeChase said: Jax is handsome but I don't find him fuckable because of the actor in real life, but I am not allowed to say why here, it is a verboten subject, understandably so. The others are too old for my taste. But yeah, Nathan when he was on? For sure. Are you me? Every word of this. We have such the same taste! And although he's no longer on the show, I'll add Johnny Zacchara to the list. Because hell yes. 6 Link to comment
UYI June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, amaranta said: List of fuckable men (character names): Drew Curtis ChaseJacks / Jax (never been sure which one it is...) Robert Mac I'm going to add Lucas and Kevin. (I've liked Lindstrom for a very, very long time. And I think Carnes is kind of hot.) It's Jax. 6 hours ago, Hater said: My point is she’s never had to or willingly done so while others have. It’s about time she does but she won’t because she knows she will most likely never be able to act again. I mean given how awful and pitiful she is on screen. Who would hire her? Didn't she take some time off during her DWTS stints or that show she did in Las Vegas a decade ago? Or she just pull double duty each time? (Although I'll confess to actually liking Kelly more often than not, lol.) Edited June 19, 2019 by UYI 2 Link to comment
Hater June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, UYI said: It's Jax. Didn't she take some time off during her DWTS stints or that show she did in Las Vegas a decade ago? Or she just pull double duty each time? Double duty. 1 Link to comment
UYI June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 Just now, Hater said: Double duty. Cool, thanks. I really thought she had taken some time off at one point. And I know there was one point around 2007 where people thought she might leave. Link to comment
Hater June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 Just now, UYI said: Cool, thanks. I really thought she had taken some time off at one point. And I know there was one point around 2007 where people thought she might leave. They thought so since they put out a casting side for Sam I think. But I never thought that was actually "real." She was always going to re up. Link to comment
FilmTVGeek80 June 20, 2019 Share June 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Hater said: Saying she’s a bad actress and won’t get a job after gh is not hating. It’s an opinion many share on this board. To me, that is the very definition of hate. To hate is to intensely or passionately dislike something. Saying an actress is so bad she should lose her job and is so bad she'd never get work again reads very much as passionate dislike. It may not be hating on a personal level (though if I were an actress and someone said I was so bad I'd never get work again I'd take that personally) but it's still hate. It being an opinion (doesn't really matter that it's an opinion that a lot of people here share) does not mean it can't be hate. It's not mutually exclusive. Your username is literally Hater so not sure why you're so annoyed at someone saying you hate something. 3 Link to comment
Hater June 20, 2019 Share June 20, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said: To me, that is the very definition of hate. To hate is to intensely or passionately dislike something. Saying an actress is so bad she should lose her job and is so bad she'd never get work again reads very much as passionate dislike. It may not be hating on a personal level (though if I were an actress and someone said I was so bad I'd never get work again I'd take that personally) but it's still hate. It being an opinion (doesn't really matter that it's an opinion that a lot of people here share) does not mean it can't be hate. It's not mutually exclusive. Your username is literally Hater so not sure why you're so annoyed at someone saying you hate something. You seem to have a problem with my opinion. Yes an opinion. And no if I were hating on Kelly Monaco I'd call her horrible names. Saying she's a bad actress is far from "hate." She's open to criticism for her profession if it's on national tv. I've said way worse about actors on here. This is tame. But again thanks for your 2 cents. It won't change that I believe KM is lazy, sleep walks through every scene and yes will not have another acting job after this show is canned (not like this is news for soap actors anyway & is said all the time, but let's act like this is an exception and it won't be hard for these people to get jobs). Edited June 20, 2019 by Hater 1 Link to comment
UYI June 20, 2019 Share June 20, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, CeChase said: Jax is handsome but I don't find him fuckable because of the actor in real life, but I am not allowed to say why here, it is a verboten subject, understandably so. The others are too old for my taste. But yeah, Nathan when he was on? For sure. If it's for the reason I think it is, that's EXACTLY why I find it so hard to crush on Chad Duell these days (yes, I may or may not have had a crush on CD at one point, SHUT UP! 😛 ). Sigh. 😞 I personally would have been fine imagining myself as Lulu and having Johnny and Dante to cite as romantic interests back in the day. 😄 I had such a crush on WR in 2000-2001 when he played Sam on GL (for that reason alone, I just CAN'T bring myself to call him by his usual nickname here--I just can't do it), but that's dead now. Oh well. Edited June 20, 2019 by UYI 3 Link to comment
CeChase June 20, 2019 Share June 20, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, UYI said: If it's for the reason I think it is, that's EXACTLY why I find it so hard to crush on Chad Duell these days (yes, I may or may not have had a crush on CD at one point, SHUT UP! 😛 ). Sigh. 😞 Yes, that is exactly it! LOL. Actually Duell blocked me on twitter, over literally one comment I made in response to something he said on that subject. ha Edited June 20, 2019 by CeChase Link to comment
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