B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat

[TVForever]

Oh great, Donna has The Village Idiots back to cheer on her affair with Eric. Apparently, it was wrong when Donna was doing Eric behind her sister's back, but now that it's behind Quinn's back, well, everything's just peachy!

[Crashcourse]

Actually, that makes sense to me.  

[SweePea59]

It was nice to see Pam again finally. She looks so thin and terrible but she seems like she pretty well. But Pam giving Donna the honey was really cringe. Remember this time that Pam gave Donna honey? 

And there was that time at the cabin...

[dovegrey]

Gotta admit, it’s fun watching Finn truly lose his shit for once, try as he might to hold it together. I find that Novlan is convincingly selling Finn being split between panicked self-preservation and desperately wanting to know if Sheila murdered Steffy. It’s almost like watching a different character.

1 hour ago, CharlizeCat said:

I did think the self-deprecating line, "world-renowned psychiatrist" was pretty funny. Otherwise, this Taylor seems more like a creative type, like she should be a writer or some artistic type like a makeup artist. Maybe make dream-catchers to sell at FC! Or maybe she could be a writer for one of Bill's publications. I mean if even he forgot she shot him in the back, anything is possible!

Otherwise, I could never imagine sitting down to bare my soul to this woman and have her actually help me with my mental health issues. 

LOL you nailed it. And Taylor is lucky that Sheila has currently been terrorizing people who aren’t going to sue Taylor for Taylor’s professional opinion that someone with a lifelong personality disorder and decades of demonstrated antisocial/psychopathic behaviors was magically “cured” and should be allowed to interact with the targets of her obsession. I can't even. Maybe “world-renowned” means that everyone else in the world knows she’s a terrible psychiatrist who tries to shrink everyone she meets, including her own family members (which is rule #2 of stuff you don’t do as a mental health professional).

[Crashcourse]

I forgot how batshit crazy Pam was (is?).

[seasons]

Have to give credit to whoever first posted about FrankenFinn. Today he delivered an especially great performance. 👹

Edited July 14, 2022 by seasons

[Crashcourse]

Yeah, I'm serious when I say Finn should be nominated for a daytime Emmy.

I mean, who would've thought he'd be a better actor lying down than standing up?

[dovegrey]

33 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

Yeah, I'm serious when I say Finn should be nominated for a daytime Emmy.

I mean, who would've thought he'd be a better actor lying down than standing up?

Who knew he’d be so good at acting essentially only with his eyes and facial expressions? That’s no small feat. I mean, the dialogue on this show is terrible and repetitive, so maybe it’s also partly that. I swear I've seen TN's eyes glaze over before LOL. Anyway, if JMW gets a nom for her dry-eyed wailing when Finn "died," but TN doesn’t get a nom for his work here, I’ll cry foul.

As an aside, I think Finn would benefit from being written as less of a normal, neutral golden boy who got dropped into a bizarre soap opera land to serve Queen Steffy. This storyline would be a good time to retool Finn a little bit - not as a bad guy, but as a guy who has it less together and isn’t so controlled. It's working pretty well for him right now.

[ByaNose]

Finn crying was actually sad. Good job done by John Finnegan. I know he’s taken a lot of grief (a lot of it deserved) but I thought he did a great job today. Finn is finally realizing and seeing that Sheila is an out of control wacko. Steffy did warn him. LOL!!!!

[nkotb]

So, my DVR didn’t pick up todays show, & I’ve been waiting for the Quinn/Donna confrontation. Anywhere I can watch it without downloading the CBS app?

[Waldo13]

That’s might big of you letting Quinn keep the engagement ring. I do believe that California divorce law allows the wife to keep the ring and it a premarital asset not subject to the dissolution of marital assets.  Carter will be Quinn’s divorce lawyer.  His fees won’t be an arm and a leg, it will only be a tug and a “tussle”.  

Wyatt, why am I getting the feeling that you are on Eric’s side each time he tells his mother that she wanted an amicable divorce.  Wyatt is right about one thing, Quinn should take win and move on. Have patients Quinn, Eric will be playing “pickle ball” with someone else in a few months. 

[La di Diva]

I do not think Eric intends to marry Donna once the Queric divorce is final.

Eric seemed all in for playing slap and tickle pickleball, but has never ever even whispered marriage.  He wants Donna's hot bod, needs the illicit fun she brings to his life, likes his renewed libido ... but marriage? Nope.

Eric liked the sneaking around. Is it still going to be fun now it's all out in the open? Donna has a banging body, but what else does she bring to the relationship?  It's probably the way Bell wants the character written and played, but Donna comes across as a bim-bette.  A mistress but not a Mrs.

[LittleIggy]

6 hours ago, seasons said:

Have to give credit to whoever first posted about FrankenFinn. Today he delivered an especially great performance. 👹

That may have been me. They might as well stick bolts on Finn’s neck!

[kitmerlot1213]

14 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Wyatt, why am I getting the feeling that you are on Eric’s side each time he tells his mother that she wanted an amicable divorce.  Wyatt is right about one thing, Quinn should take win and move on. Have patients Quinn, Eric will be playing “pickle ball” with someone else in a few months. 

I always appreciated that DB plays Wyatt like he's the voice of reason in dealing with his mom, like he has to constantly talk her down from whatever absurd scheme pops into her brain.  And I also think the blooms going to come off of the Quinn/Carter romance rather quickly as well.

The Finn/Sheila scenes have been riveting to watch and I especially liked his look of startled fear when Sheila grabbed the bottom bed rail and shook it in anger.  DAMN!!  I hope he's able to emotionally manipulate her into freeing him because he's not going to be able to escape on his own.

[Gam2]

Can the hair stylists do something, anything with that mop on NuTay’s head? Thanks so much!

[SoapsSpoilers]

Friday's B&B daily recap: Sheila Drugs Finn to Keep Him Under Control and Deacon Gets Taylor to Confide in Him

https://soapsspoilers.com/the-bold-and-the-beautiful/recaps/sheila-drugs-finn-taylor-confides-deacon

[Crashcourse]

I'm cracking up at Quinn acting all butt hurt and outraged because now she knows that Eric is as much of a skank as she is.  And now that she's got what she wants with Meatloaf...err....Carter, why is she dumping on Donna?  

Speaking of Meatloaf, something is "off" with him regarding Quinn.  I'm getting the feeling that she's into him more than he is into her.  

While I'm glad that Deacon is finally moving on from Brooke, I hope he and Taylor don't hook up.  They seem better as friends.  Plus, he can do better finding another partner somewhere else in LA.

What's coming out of the Finn drama is it that appears Finn and Steffy really do love each other, and that's a good thing.  I do think she's over Liam now.  I hope so.  

[Chatty Cake]

Oh Quinn, be glad you are not the one putting honey on Eric’s old balls. She’s got the hunk of burning love, enjoy him.

Speaking of hunks, how lucky is Taylor? The yummy Deacon paying her a visit. Could they please take the wigs off KA? Her hair has probably grown out a bit and it’s got to look better than the wigs. 
 

Finnegan, you are going to need to calm the eff down and make nice to the coo coo bird until you can get yourself away from her.

[Gam2]

Color me confused at Quinn being so upset and antagonistic toward Donna when she’s the one who cheated with Carter and broke up her marriage to Eric to begin with. I thought at first that she was kidding when she got so mean with Donna. Get over yourself, Quinn.

[Crashcourse]

I think Quinn thinks she's the only one allowed to be "sexaayyy," and the thought of Donna with that body and that honey is just too much for Quinn to fathom.

[LittleIggy]

I want Deacon and Taylor to have a fling just so Ridge’s head will explode!

[SweePea59]

4 hours ago, SoapsSpoilers said:

Friday's B&B daily recap: Sheila Drugs Finn to Keep Him Under Control and Deacon Gets Taylor to Confide in Him

https://soapsspoilers.com/the-bold-and-the-beautiful/recaps/sheila-drugs-finn-taylor-confides-deacon

I prefer to stay unspoiled for this show. Would you please post spoilers in the spoiler thread?

[Waldo13]

Do the monkeys with a keyboard think that we are so dumb that Finn, who was near death a few days ago, can wake up and have the strength to try to get out of bed in trying to push past Shiela?  He hasn’t  even had the time to heal from his gunshot wounds. Or should I say what gun shot wound because there are no bandages.  I’m sure he was shot in the chest somewhere vital enough for him to bleed out.  You would think even with all his yelling he would pop a few stitches.  Now I have one other question. Who took the bullet out of Finn’s chest. Either if it was the hospital or Li, surgery would be required. 

Taylor is right, neither she nor Deacon are losers. They win because the two actual losers are back together.  

Quinn mocking Donna is 😂😂 and spot on. 

Finn would be a hell of a lot more of a sympathetic character if he knew how to act. 

[dovegrey]

2 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Do the monkeys with a keyboard think that we are so dumb that Finn, who was near death a few days ago, can wake up and have the strength to try to get out of bed in trying to push past Shiela?  He hasn’t  even had the time to heal from his gunshot wounds. Or should I say what gun shot wound because there are no bandages.  I’m sure he was shot in the chest somewhere vital enough for him to bleed out.  You would think even with all his yelling he would pop a few stitches.  Now I have one other question. Who took the bullet out of Finn’s chest. Either if it was the hospital or Li, surgery would be required. 

I saw a bandage on his right side when his shirt was cut open. He got shot more off to the side, rather than right to the center chest. Li is a surgeon and I figured she took out the bullet and fixed the internal bleeding with magical soap medicine skills that don’t require an OR. It seems like about four months have passed on the show, since the Forresters had their July 4 get together last week, so I figure the wound should be fairly healed by now. I mean, Steffy is physically healed enough to fly off to Paris.

But, yeah, not much about his predicament has made a lot of medical sense…he’s brain dead when Li finds him with a doctor “doing everything possible” to save him but there was literally no medical equipment hooked up to him. He’s supposedly brain dead with Li but not on life support or requiring anything more than extra oxygen. He wakes up by dying and now goes back and forth between yelling full sentences and near-coma mumbling. Okay. Also, being forced to lay in a pop-up hospital bed would risk killing him, too; good call, Nurse Sheila.

As a general comment, I agree he needs to calm down and play it cool but I don’t begrudge him the panic. I think he’s still learning how unstable Sheila is and has apparently learned from his wife how to whack a ticking time bomb with a sledgehammer.

Edited July 16, 2022 by dovegrey
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[Gam2]

Why are the previous comments in upper case?

[SweePea59]

1 hour ago, Waldo13 said:

Do the monkeys with a keyboard think that we are so dumb that Finn, who was near death a few days ago, can wake up and have the strength to try to get out of bed in trying to push past Shiela?  He hasn’t  even had the time to heal from his gunshot wounds. Or should I say what gun shot wound because there are no bandages.  I’m sure he was shot in the chest somewhere vital enough for him to bleed out.  You would think even with all his yelling he would pop a few stitches.  Now I have one other question. Who took the bullet out of Finn’s chest. Either if it was the hospital or Li, surgery would be required. 

Well, if we're gonna be real, Finn still has a catheter inserted you know where. 

[Waldo13]

4 hours ago, dovegrey said:

I saw a bandage on his right side when his shirt was cut open. He got shot more off to the side, rather than right to the center chest. Li is a surgeon and I figured she took out the bullet and fixed the internal bleeding with magical soap medicine skills that don’t require an OR.

Finn was shot on his right side in the area of his liver.  When we first saw him he was shirtless in the bed where Li was taking care of him. There was no bandages in that area. In order to remove the bullet, it most likely need more surgery than a simple extraction that would require an operating room. Finn had a death certificate that had to be filled out by the doctor who pronounced Finn dead. Correct me if I’m wrong but Finn must have been in the hospital morgue when Li noticed him moving and she swept him up and brought him to where ever she was taking care of him. Even when Finn is in the bed with now a white shirt there was no sign that he was bandaged on his right lower side. Even Stuffy who was also shot, didn’t have the amount of bandages that you think that would be needed after a bullet extraction. Stuffy looked like she has a small bandage on her neck. Even if it was 4 weeks since the shooting, it would be very hard to believe that either Stuffy’s or Finn’s wounds would heal that fast let alone there wouldn’t be a scar. 

[dovegrey]

6 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Finn was shot on his right side in the area of his liver.  When we first saw him he was shirtless in the bed where Li was taking care of him. There was no bandages in that area. In order to remove the bullet, it most likely need more surgery than a simple extraction that would require an operating room. Finn had a death certificate that had to be filled out by the doctor who pronounced Finn dead. Correct me if I’m wrong but Finn must have been in the hospital morgue when Li noticed him moving and she swept him up and brought him to where ever she was taking care of him. Even when Finn is in the bed with now a white shirt there was no sign that he was bandaged on his right lower side. Even Stuffy who was also shot, didn’t have the amount of bandages that you think that would be needed after a bullet extraction. Stuffy looked like she has a small bandage on her neck. Even if it was 4 weeks since the shooting, it would be very hard to believe that either Stuffy’s or Finn’s wounds would heal that fast let alone there wouldn’t be a scar. 

He had a bandage on his lower right side LOL; here's a screencap. I don't know how time works on B&B (I've never really paid attention), but it seems like months (not weeks) have passed on the show. He got shot April 1, and they had a July 4 party last week.

I mean, for any of the murdered-by-Sheila fake death stuff to even start to make sense, he would have needed to have been autopsied by a coroner. It's a soap opera, and I think we're seeing how silly these "So and So is still alive after being shot five years ago!" storylines really are, since we're seeing the details happen in real-time rather than get glossed over after-the-fact, and it's just not possible to pull off realistically. All in all, I'm just happy that they're actually depicting a guy built like Finn as being unable to support his own body weight and unable to strong-arm Sheila; that's actually more than I expect from a soap. YMMV. :)

Edited July 16, 2022 by dovegrey

[hypnotoad]

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I'm just happy that they're actually depicting a guy built like Finn as being unable to support his own body weight and unable to strong-arm Sheila; that's actually more than I expect from a soap. YMMV. :)

Completely agree. There's just no way to find realism in anything Li did to get Finn where ever she has him. No surprise and most soap viewers are just willing to gloss over that. I do appreciate that Finn looks very sickly and he cannot immediately be running around.

I want Li back though!

[Waldo13]

40 minutes ago, dovegrey said:

He had a bandage on his lower right side LOL; here's a screencap. I don't know how time works on B&B (I've never really paid attention), but it seems like months (not weeks) have passed on the show. He got shot April 1, and they had a July 4 party last week.

I mean, for any of the murdered-by-Sheila fake death stuff to even start to make sense, he would have needed to have been autopsied by a coroner. It's a soap opera, and I think we're seeing how silly these "So and So is still alive after being shot five years ago!" storylines really are, since we're seeing the details happen in real-time rather than get glossed over after-the-fact, and it's just not possible to pull off realistically. All in all, I'm just happy that they're actually depicting a guy built like Finn as being unable to support his own body weight and unable to strong-arm Sheila; that's actually more than I expect from a soap. YMMV. :)

I stand corrected as to a bandage on his right side but to my defense I didn’t notice it because it was small.  Now that I see it it looks more like a band aid than a bandage. I do reiterate that Finn must have died in the hospital to have a death certificate either DOA or in surgery. Either in the hospital or Li removing the bullet, Finn’s wound would require a much larger bandage.  

[SweePea59]

2 hours ago, hypnotoad said:

I do appreciate that Finn looks very sickly and he cannot immediately be running around.

I do, too. Especially since he seems to have all of his mental facilities. I think they are running this story too fast. I would have like to have watched Finn having a longer recovery time and have him with either amnesia or some temporary mental/psychological/brain damage that lasted a long time, perhaps intesecting other story arcs.

I remember when Li explained what she did with Finn, but I don't remember why she said she did what she did. What was her reason? Can someone refresh my memory? She did have the ability to not pronounce Finn dead and then have him admitted to the hospital for proper care and protection.

[BoffoDaWonderSheep]

Is anyone else squigged out by Pam and Charlie giving Donna honey at their workplace? I think the HR department would have something to say about the appropriateness of bringing sex toys to work. Look, we got you and the boss some lube!

[Snaporaz]

On 7/16/2022 at 10:54 AM, SweePea59 said:

I do, too. Especially since he seems to have all of his mental facilities. I think they are running this story too fast. I would have like to have watched Finn having a longer recovery time and have him with either amnesia or some temporary mental/psychological/brain damage that lasted a long time, perhaps intesecting other story arcs.

I remember when Li explained what she did with Finn, but I don't remember why she said she did what she did. What was her reason? Can someone refresh my memory? She did have the ability to not pronounce Finn dead and then have him admitted to the hospital for proper care and protection.

I think Li said something like the ER docs didn't believe there was any hope in even trying to revive Finn, so she took matters into her own hands, filled out the fake death certificate, and moved him to where he is now.  Maybe she wasn't allowed to intervene at all since she's family, and since the on-duty docs gave up on him she panicked and had to act fast?  It was kind of glossed over, so I think we're just supposed to roll with it. 

[ByaNose]

So Sheila is officially a crazy nut after giving some shot of something to shut him up. LOL!!! I’d rather watch a whole 1/2 hour of Sheila & Finn then anything else. The ratings have been going up, up, up with this storyline and Brad Bell is going to drag out for some time which isn’t a horrible thing. I would like to see Li sooner rather than later though. I’m guessing she’s plotting her next move but in theory she should call the police and not even mention who she is and give them the address where Finn is. Of course, this is a soap and that would ruin all of the fun.

I think they are going to start showing some on location stuff of Monaco (where TK, KA, JMW & TN attended the annual festival) when Ridge and Taylor visit Steffy. I’m sure it will be beautiful footage because B&B has always been good with that stuff. 

It will be interesting to see how the Sheila, Finn & Li thing plays out. Who rescues whom? Will Sheila go back to jail……again? Will Brooke ever remember Mike Guthrie’s name? 

[norcalgal]

1 hour ago, ByaNose said:

I think they are going to start showing some on location stuff of Monaco (where TK, KA, JMW & TN attended the annual festival) when Ridge and Taylor visit Steffy. I’m sure it will be beautiful footage because B&B has always been good with that stuff. 

Is B&B the only soap still doing location shots?  It’s extinct on Days of Our Lives, and I no longer watch GH or Y&R. 

[SweePea59]

3 hours ago, Snaporaz said:

I think Li said something like the ER docs didn't believe there was any hope in even trying to revive Finn, so she took matters into her own hands, filled out the fake death certificate, and moved him to where he is now.  Maybe she wasn't allowed to intervene at all since she's family, and since the on-duty docs gave up on him she panicked and had to act fast?  It was kind of glossed over, so I think we're just supposed to roll with it. 

Thanks! Oh, this show requires a lot of rolling with it, but it does give pay-offs and fun surprises.

[ByaNose]

1 hour ago, norcalgal said:

Is B&B the only soap still doing location shots?  It’s extinct on Days of Our Lives, and I no longer watch GH or Y&R. 

GH only shoots outside their studio at some “park” which doesn’t look like New York because of the palm trees. LOL!!! Y&R has an outdoor set but it still looks fake. B&B has the advantages of an international audience to offset the cost of shooting on location and they also are usually tied in with special events for Brad Bell and the cast.  I think KKL knew someone when they were abroad and the person let them use their yacht for the Brooke & Bill shoot years ago. One of my favorites shoots was when they were in Portofino, Italy. I think almost the whole cast was on that one. This was during the Susan Flannery & Ronn Moss years. Of course, it was also the 90’s when a lot of the soaps were still doing on location stuff. Even Y&R was doing it. Somehow, B&B being a half hour show, Brad Bell as executive producer and having an international audience they are the only one who can afford it or are willing to do it. I guess if the hour shows cut back on their large casts they could in theory afford it, too. I’m assuming. 

[Anna Yolei]

It's been a long while since B&B's had an on location shoot, even accounting for COVID. I can't think of one more recent than Sydney for the 30th anniversary.

[RuntheTable]

I guess they want us to think Sheila killed Finn, but I doubt that; she just gave him some kind of "sleep aid." I am not really enjoying this SL so much, outside of the fact that I cannot stand the Sheila character and KB's choppy acting and incessant eye batting, is all the Misery and What Ever Happened to Baby Jane vibes I am getting. I simply want Li to return, and she and Finn work to free him and get him out of there. 

Oh, fuck off Quinn. Yes, Eric was wrong to step out, but so were you, and when you consider all the other thing's he forgave you for, not the least of which was carrying on with his son, I don't think you have a leg to stand on. And you came out the big winner here, you got the guy of your dreams. If Donna is the only woman who can get Eric's arsenal to work, and they want to be together, then so be it. You have not been happy in that marriage for a long time, and now you have your out and you are not even the guilty party. So shut the hell up. 

I was glad to see that Donna was pushing back a bit, but I am in agreement about the whole honey gifting thing. I mean, who's co-workers are in bed with them like that? Although it was nice to see Pam, but Alley Mills did not look well. 

[Foghorn Leghorn]

It appeared to me Alley Mills was wearing much less make up or something giving her a washed out look, if not, then she isn’t looking well.  Nice to see her back.

Gives me the creeps watching NuTay’s girlish giggly flirtatious whispers to Ridge and now Deacon.  

Glad to see they are working KKL’s broken ankle into the storyline.  I am taking note that Ridge has mentioned a few times he needs to care for her because of that and a bit of Sheila protection in there instead of saying he is the love of his life/destiny blather.  Seems a bit foreboding.

Edited July 18, 2022 by Foghorn Leghorn

[CharlizeCat]

I agree, @Foghorn Leghorn. That was a wishy-washy lame excuse to go back to Brooke. Brooke has two sisters, a daughter, and SIL to take care of her during her recovery from her broken ankle. Not to mention that Deacon and Bill would be more than willing and able to step in as Brooke's "bodyguard" to protect her from Sheila.

I think it's Ridge's typical waffling BS so that flimsy reason to dump Taylor is just his way to keep one foot firmly out Brooke's front door and pointed in the direction of the Cliff House. While at the same time, he's half-ass recommitting to Brooke. 

Why, oh why can't these adult women kick that greasy grifter to the curb once and for all.

Yes, Taylor's simpering giggling and flirting with the men on the show is juvenile and annoying. But I have to look at it as at least KA can generate some decent chemistry with her male co-stars. I can't say the same for her predecessor. I wish KA could find some balance between being likable and cold-fish HTy's Taylor. 

[SoapsSpoilers]

On 7/15/2022 at 7:12 PM, SweePea59 said:

I prefer to stay unspoiled for this show. Would you please post spoilers in the spoiler thread?

I posted this after the episode aired on friday. This would be a recap not a spoiler. Can you please define how it is a spoiler? That way I won't make the same faux pas again. I'm still learning this site and its nuances. 

Thanks for your time

Edited July 18, 2022 by SoapsSpoilers

[SweePea59]

6 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

Brooke has two sisters, a daughter, and SIL to take care of her during her recovery from her broken ankle.

Two daughters. Don't forget that her daughter the doctor is back in town. Who's the SIL? I'm blanking.

Edited July 18, 2022 by SweePea59

[tessaray]

On 7/15/2022 at 6:12 PM, SweePea59 said:

I prefer to stay unspoiled for this show. Would you please post spoilers in the spoiler thread?

The post you refer to was fine. The link did not contain any spoilers for future episodes. It was also posted after the episode aired in my area. 

People should probably avoid this thread if they haven't seen the day's episode.  The show airs at different times in different places. 

[Gam2]

1 hour ago, SweePea59 said:

Two daughters. Don't forget that her daughter the doctor is back in town. Who's the SIL? I'm blanking.

Son-in-law, Liam.

[tessaray]

2 hours ago, SoapsSpoilers said:

I posted this after the episode aired on friday. This would be a recap not a spoiler. Can you please define how it is a spoiler? That way I won't make the same faux pas again. I'm still learning this site and its nuances. 

Thanks for your time

Your post was fine as far as spoilers go but you might want to avoid just posting links in a discussion thread. We care what you think about the episode. Posting a link doesn't promote conversation. 

Links (with descriptive text) are okay in News or Media topics. 

[Chatty Cake]

Ridge is a real jerk to Hope. She’s nothing but nice to him and he starts barking at her about Deacon. Brooke banned the man but that’s not enough for Ridge. He wants Hope to dump him too. It’s too bad Brooke won’t stand up for Hope. She just gives him that “oh Ridge” smile.

[Waldo13]

Are we sure that Liam is not Ridges son. They sure act alike. Liam worries at nauseam about Stuffy and Ridge worries at nauseam about Taylor. 

How many restaurants are there with the same name?  One in Beverly Hills were Finn and Stuffy got shot and one on the beach were Carter was going to marry Paris. Or is it two different restaurants with very similar names. 

I wish Hope just grow some balls and tell Ridge to go royalty fuck himself.  Hope should not accept Ridge’s apology.  It was disingenuous because he actually wants Hope to turn her back on Deacon.  

[SweePea59]

1 hour ago, Gam2 said:

Son-in-law, Liam.

Thank you for the clarification. I read it as sister-in-law.

[Chatty Cake]

1 hour ago, Waldo13 said:

Are we sure that Liam is not Ridges son. They sure act alike. Liam worries at nauseam about Stuffy and Ridge worries at nauseam about Taylor. 

How many restaurants are there with the same name?  One in Beverly Hills were Finn and Stuffy got shot and one on the beach were Carter was going to marry Paris. Or is it two different restaurants with very similar names. 

I wish Hope just grow some balls and tell Ridge to go royalty fuck himself.  Hope should not accept Ridge’s apology.  It was disingenuous because he actually wants Hope to turn her back on Deacon.  

I thought they were the same restaurant. There is only one restaurant in L.A.