B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat

[RedRockRosie]

For me this stupid show is either rage inducing 😡 or boring😑 (or both). It makes me wanna get all punchy!

Used to really like TK back in the day but I gotta say- his Ridge is the most awful "loving" (ha!) husband I've ever seen. He makes it pretty clear he can't stand Brooke/KKL. I hope to hell they break up soon & end this constant torture. (Hey Brooke, did you notice that hot doctor??😉)

Seriously Ridge, it was pretty damn clear to everyone else in the room that Thomas was playing on Hope with his phony false saccharin "sorrys". What a vile character you have for a son, dude.

Wyatt & Sally were ...I don't know, I kinda FF'd through them cause I could see Sally getting ready to grovel & not making Wyatt grovel nearly enough.😶

[CharlizeCat]

You know it's pretty bad when Thomas is seen as the lesser despicable cretin between him and Sludge.

The only thing that would have made today's show even worse was if Lippy was flapping around shrieking and pointing her finger in Brooke's face. Kinda of glad that HTy has stayed off the radar for this one. 

If Thomas starts to threaten/blackmail Hope/Brooke, Brooke should play the, "I'll turn your mother over to Det. Sanchez card." Everybody could see through Thomas' lame apology and his borderline blackmail threat to Brooke. She really needs to cut all ties with the Forresters for good.  So far, it seems like Hope isn't being swayed. She needs to stay as far away from Thomas as possible. But ... I'll bet she's right back at the hospital visiting him tomorrow.

I am SOoooo glad that Brooke got right back up in Sludge's face and told him in no uncertain terms where he and his piss-poor excuse of a son can go.  I can't think of any better reason than to kick his greasy ass to the curb ASAP. Who cares if he runs to Shauna? 

Sally and Wyatt bore me to tears. I am secondhand embarrassed for Sally for letting Wyatt off the hook so easily. I honestly question whether or not the show actually needs Sally. Now, wait, before the Sally fans see rage red ... I like CH A LOT. That being said, I'd actually rather have the actress move on to more deserving roles elsewhere than to play this self-doubting doormat who apparently can't live without warming Wyatt's bed every night.

I want our feisty Sal back, who was ready to go head-to-head with the Forresters and could have any man she wanted in L.A., plus continue the rivalry with Hauxdi. This one has been declawed.  Mark my words, Sally and Wyatt will be rolling around in bed together by Friday. I can honestly live without seeing their ongoing pillow talk. I wish that Brooke would divorce Sludge, cut all ties with FC and go start a rival fashion house with Sally and Maya.

[SimoneS]

I don't think that I have ever said this, but damn, I was proud of Brooke today. She took no prisoners with Ridge. She refused to let him make her feel guilty for protecting Hope and didn't fall for Thomas' pretense at contrition as she remained determined that he would pay for his deception about Beth. I don't know how long this will last, but I hope we get more tough as nails mama bear Brooke.

Thomas is full of shit. An apology doesn't wipe away his sins and his verbal abuse of Douglas is unforgivable.

[Anna Yolei]

The funny thing is the Bells were ahead of the LA Fashion Name curve, cuz so many people always commented on how ridiculously pretention such names like Ridge and Thorne were 🤣 No one would even blink at that today.

Edit: re the naming thing mentioned a few posts back before I saw these three.

Edited September 3, 2019 by Anna Yolei

[bannana]

That pig Ridge says to Brooke, about Thomas: he gave you a break. He could have told what really happened.  Instead of bad-mouthing him out here, why don't you go in and apologize to him?

Brooke reacts emotionally about what Thomas did to Hope, and that she will not apologize to him, and that what happened was an accident.

And that piece of shit Ridge says: Sshhh.

SSSHHHH??!!!???!!

WTAF?!  Okay, right there, marriage over. No man would ever talk to me like that.  How condescending and just overall shitty on his part.

Brooke didn't back down and told him that Thomas has to pay for what he did to Hope and her granddaughter.

That will never happen, but I like the way they are destroying Bridge.  Paging Dr. Hayward Armstrong.....

[TigerLynx]

OMG!  Shut up Ridge.  I want to hit you in the head with a baseball bat.

This is the prick you declared your destiny and soulmate Brooke, and have spent half your life chasing.  Was he worth it?

Hope has once again managed to step on my last nerve.  She can taunt Thomas when he is unconscious, but she can't open her damn mouth to tell the Detective what really happened.

It was an accident.  Hope and Thomas were stupidly arguing on the side of a cliff, Thomas wouldn't leave Hope alone, and Brooke pushed Thomas away from Hope.  Both Liam and Brooke tried to warn Hope about Thomas.  Hope refused to listen.

Go ahead and boink Bill or Liam Brooke, I'll give you a pass on this one.

[TobinAlbers]

16 minutes ago, TigerLynx said:

Go ahead and boink Bill or Liam Brooke, I'll give you a pass on this one.

Don't bring Liam into this mess. Oliver never recovered from his oops against the wall with Brooke and I'm digging him with Hope and lil' Beth. Steffy's gonna mess Lope up soon enough.

As much as I want Brill to get a true chance, I don't want another Katie meltdown over it so let Brooke move on with Dr. Armstrong. When Batie or Queric implodes, then Brooke can move on with either Eric or Bill.

As for cutting the Forresters out of her life, she can't really. Three of her four kids are Forresters so she's gonna have to deal with Ridge and Eric until they die.

Here's the thing, when Ridge dumped Brooke over her texting with Deacon on their honeymoon that told you all you needed to know. She still took him back more than once until she finally saw him in a clench with Quinn and realized what a dirtbag he really was and with finality dumped his ass- only to take him back when Bill hit Liam which was ludicrous since she stuck by Bill when he was trashing her own daughter repeatedly! So like how Katie and Bill may love each other but ultimately break down, Brooke and Ridge never are smooth sailing for long and that should tell her something.

[AngelKitty]

Just watched this online since all coverage was preempted by hurricane Dorian and here's what I said throughout the whole thing to Brooke: PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE.

[CharlizeCat]

Brooke needs to borrow Brad Pitt's character's Rottweiler from "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood." Gnaw Sludge's 'nads off and let him bleed to death!

OK. Sorry. Had to release my inner Quentin Tarantino on Sludge after yesterday's asshattery.

Edited September 3, 2019 by CharlizeCat

[Joimiaroxeu]

Quote

The Bell family had a friend named Ridge from way back in the day and when the Bells were first creating soaps, friend Ridge asked that one of the characters be named after him. 

Guess we're fortunate they didn't have a friend named Plateau or Canyon.

[mightysparrow]

I'm glad that Scott Clifton was in that hospital room to represent those of us in the viewing audience who are OVER THIS BULLSHIT.  Liam's facial expressions said it all. 

Anybody who thought that Thomas would come out of his coma any different than he was before he took the dive were seriously mistaken.  He's the same sociopath his been for a long time.  The bullshit he spewed to Hope was vile.  Anybody notice that he didn't have any apologies for LIAM, Beth's other parent.  Liam's pain seems to be discounted by almost everybody.   He might have been able to spend time with Phoebeth, but he still thought that his baby was dead.  Liam suffered too, but Thomas doesn't want to fuck Liam so, no apologies for him.

Brooke needs to punch Ridge in the face, drive home and throw his greasy, grimy, too-small clothes out of his house.  How DARE that piece of shit talk to his wife that way?  He was GOING TO HANDLE IT??????  How?  By leaving 101 voicemails for Thomas?  He was racing over to Hauxdi's house as fast as Brooke was because he thinks his son is a killer too.  That Ridge isn't MAN ENOUGH to admit that he was afraid of what his son would do proves that Thomas is a perfect product of Ridge and Taylor.  God I hate him.

I'm happy that Hope isn't COMPLETELY falling for Thomas' bullshit.  Luckily she has Liam AND Beth to keep her in the real world.  All she has to do is look at her baby and be reminded of what Thomas did. 

It makes me sick to hear Thomas claim that he wants to be a good father to Douglas.  It's a lowdown, dirty, rotten shame that nobody witnessed Douglas cowering in fear while Thomas loomed over him.

I was proud of my girl Brooke.  I was sick of her being so meek with Ridge and obviously she was tired of it too.  I'm glad she read his greasy ass for filth and reminded him that his son is not even close to being off the hook.  Sanchez has some questions for Thomas and $Bill and Justin are going to want a few words too.

I had to fast-forward Sally and Wyatt.  I'm sick of women being so glad that men who've treated them like shit have decided to throw another fuck their way.  If Sally had any self-respect, she'd do to Wyatt what Brooke did to Thomas.  The second Wyatt knew Flo was in town, he couldn't move Sally out of his place fast enough.  She would have been gone if she had forgotten to empty the dishwasher.  Enough of this fuckery.

[seasons]

Oof. What has DR done to her face? Just awful. All swollen and uneven. And her eyes look like doll eyes. Creepy.

Not feeling the chemistry between Katie and Bill. But Bill and Brooke? Yes please! 

I love that Bill is on the case. Start with Ridge. "Where is Ridge?" Attaboy, Dolla! 

[TigerLynx]

Flo, you are lying waste of space.  You could have told the truth BEFORE Thomas ever returned to town, or found out.  It was your own greed, spinelessness, and selfishness that stopped you.  Thomas being a psycho doesn't absolve you of what you did.

I'm so glad Bill is back.  I hate that he is being wasted on Katie.  I also like that Bill feels bad for Liam, Hope, and Steffy.

Brooke, if I didn't despise you so much, I might feel a little bit sorry for you, but this is the guy you declared the love of your life.  You were willing to do whatever it took to get Ridge, and you didn't care who you hurt in the process.

Really, Ridge?  You think you are not a bad person?  I agreed with most of what you said to Flo, but you're wrong about that one.  YOU ARE a bad person.

This is why I like Bill.  He has no illusions about being the good guy.  Although even when Bill is the bad guy, he is quite often still better than the supposed good guys.

[nkotb]

Damn, Ridge is a total douchebag. I don't understand why Brooke is so desperate for him that she's willing to put up with his verbal assaults. He's ridiculous. I also found it odd that he showed far more emotion about how upset Steffy is about losing Phoebe, than he did when his son was unconscious, clinging to life. Then, it was anger at Brooke, not really fear, or concern, or being upset. I actually thought the scene where Ridge was talking to Flo, & showing genuine emotion about Steffy's pain, was one of his better scenes ever. 

$Bill & Brooke...I'm not even a Brooke fan, & I wish TPTB hadn't screwed that up for another round of Bridge. As hot as DD/$Bill is, even that can't make Batie hot. They're dull, I wish they'd let them move on, amicably.

[Ohwell]

3 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Guess we're fortunate they didn't have a friend named Plateau or Canyon.

Or Butte.

[CountryGirl]

Ridge can go suck on a bag of dicks.

I'm just here for the possibility of Brill rekindling.

Bill deserves better than to be saddled to sourpuss Katie with whom he no longer has an ounce of chemistry (and that's not on Don). And KKL/Brooke definitely deserves better than to have to work with the clearly-uninterested TK whose Ridge has zero resemblance to Ronn, who was as wooden as the day as long, but at least seemed like he actually gave a fuck about his co-stars and I don't know, JOB. 

[Waldo13]

Ridge tells Brooke that Lurch almost lost his life because his wife hates him.  I can’t tell you how much I hate Ridge.  Ridge, Lurch didn’t save Brooke by not telling Det Sanchez that he pushed him. Even if Lurch said he was pushed, Brooke has a very strong case in defending herself.  Ridge, you were going to cover up for Brooke but now it seems he just wanted to beat her up with insinuations.  

Ridge in confronting Flo doesn’t want to hear that Lurch threatened her. Does Ridge now intend to threaten Flo to keep quiet about Lurch.  Yes, Ridge is all about Stuffy and Lurch nothing else matters.  Liam and Raggedy who.  Nothing about Lurch preying on Raggedy nor the selfishness of Stuffy wanting another baby even with the so called loss of Raggedy’s baby. Ridge made it sound like Stuffy loved PhoBeth more than Kelly. 

Ridge, I would be very worried about Bill bringing his wrath on Lurch because there will be nothing you can do to stop him. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

58 minutes ago, Ohwell said:

Or Butte.

You win the internets today. Perfection.

[Anna Yolei]

3 hours ago, TigerLynx said:

This is why I like Bill.  He has no illusions about being the good guy.  Although even when Bill is the bad guy, he is quite often still better than the supposed good guys.

Bill, much like Stephanie, owns most of his shit. He doesn't pretend there's a higher morality that drives his decision-making, he's just plain selfish. I'd say the one action of his that I was 100 percent not in his corner behind was the Sky fiasco but he wasn't wrong to drag the Forresters over that Dare stunt and he wasn't entirely wrong about Liam and Hope needing to cool off in the early 2010s. And he certainly isn't wrong not to give Ridge's rotten crouchfruit a pass just because he fell off a cliff.

3 hours ago, TigerLynx said:

Really, Ridge?  You think you are not a bad person?  I agreed with most of what you said to Flo, but you're wrong about that one.  YOU ARE a bad person.

Ridge has always been a lousy human being, going back to the callous proposal to Caroline as a dick waving measure to Bill Sr. and then playing a "joke" to fuck her with his brother downstairs. Only now, the exterior reflects that piggish nature because TK is only capable of one emotion, which of anger 24/7.

16 minutes ago, CountryGirl said:

Ronn, who was as wooden as the day as long, but at least seemed like he actually gave a fuck about his co-stars and I don't know, JOB. 

RM was able to sell that Ridget story to the point that even THAT ship, part of what used to be the worst story B&B ever told, still had it's fans. I remember Moss speaking about how weirded out he was about that and it was his least favorite story but you'd never know that judging by what few clips of that story one can find on YT.

I know the ABC viewers have said TK can act, but what difference does it make when he so blatantly chooses which stories to engage in? 

[Mikita]

I would respect this show more if they wrote what we saw. Instead they want to act like we are too stupid to remember what we saw. Hope was afraid of Thomas. I don't care if he was apologizing. She ran from the house to get away from him. He followed and was grabbing her arms against her will. That's what Brooke saw. She got between them and Thomas had his hands on Brooke and she pushed him away. Not her fault he never learned not to put his hands on others from his delusional parents.

[Gam2]

Ridge? I cannot imagine why Flo agreed to see you and listen to your excuses for your sorry son, Tom. We all know what Flo did and what Dr. Heinous did. We also know what Thomas did! In my mind, his sins were more despicable than Flo’s. She didn’t lie to and manipulate Hope into marrying her; she didn’t scream at her son and frighten him to death; she didn’t run off and leave others to take care of her son; she didn’t buy drugs to use on Hope on the “honeymoon from hell”. I am in no way excusing Flo’s actions but you and your demon spawn can go straight to Hell!!

[RuntheTable]

Once you taste the dark side, it will forever darken your destiny - Yoda

Brooke should have already smacked the taste out of that oaf’s mouth. Brooke needs to start a P&L statement on her relationship with Ridge post haste because loving spouses don’t treat each other this way. Clearly, Ridge is choosing to believe Brooke wanted to hurt Thomas and seems to be getting great enjoyment out of needling her about it. Has Ridge ever thanked Brooke for covering for Taylor? I was just wondering about that, because Ridge chooses to believe the worst of his wife, but not his ex-wife or his kids with her. No, they all accidentally do stuff.  Taylor accidentally flew over the pond, and she accidentally went to Bill’s, and she accidentally let herself in, and she accidentally picked up Bill’s gun, and she accidentally pulled the trigger, and she accidentally put the gun back and left. Steffy accidentally took Bill’s call, and she accidentally told Bill to come to the Guest House, and she accidentally let Bill in, and then, the poor thing, was so upset and distraught, that she lost her footing and accidentally fell on Bill’s dick. And she must have hit her head when she fell, or maybe it was just the jolt of consuming The Stallion in such a fashion, but once she saddled up she continued the ride to the end, not realizing till she woke up later that it was Bill she had fucked and not Liam. Thomas is a good kid. He accidentally let himself be engulfed in this baby napping plot, but it is important to remember that Thomas had nothing to do with that. No, he was just making his play for Hope, and got carried away with all that was going on. And when he disappeared? Well, he did that for Douglas. Thomas didn’t want his son to see him like that. He was upset, and scared, and alone, and most importantly, didn’t know who he could trust. So, when he accidentally learned that Hope was alone at Cliff House, he thought it would be a really good idea to, you know, just go over there and try to talk to Hope. Not to try to get her back, but just to make her understand how sorry he was. Now, Hope was a little frightened at first, but once Thomas chased her out to the cliff edge, Hope started to see that Thomas was being sincere. I guess you could have misinterpreted that scene, but only if you were holding on to the past, with a mind full of preconceived ideas and notions.

So, over the years there have been times I have felt really sorry for Ridge:

Finding out Bridget wasn’t his

His heart attack

Finding out about his paternity

Losing his sight

Losing his ability to draw

And at certain points during this current fuck fest

However, them days are now officially over. You blathering blowhard. You big breasted buffoon. Yeah, you had every right to read Flo, but you left a few people out, more than that, you painted Thomas as a victim. Like Flo is a black widow who caught Thomas in her web; trapping him in her plot. It was never Flo’s plot Ridge, Flo’s plot was to remain silent. Thomas’s plot was to remain silent too, but for entirely different reasons. He wasn’t worried about self preservation because up to that point, he hadn’t broken any laws. So trying to say that Flo somehow had Thomas by his balls is just pure Tom Fuckery. Flo had no agency over Thomas at all. Thomas took this terrible tragedy and stepped out on his own, creating his own schemes and plots. And those machinations included using his son. Actually, maybe Emma would be the better choice to explain how Thomas felt about keeping silent?

Aside from all that, it totally bugs that you are the one calling out Flo. Not that she doesn’t deserve whatever happens to her, but not from you. Not from the guy who tried to steal his own grandson and pass him off as his own. Why did that happen again? Was it:

a.     Because your Little Ridge’s had lost their mojo?

b.     Because you knew Thomas had done bad things with Caroline when she was inebriated?

c.      Because you are an arrogant jerk?

d.     All of the above

You go in the cage, cage goes in the water, you go in the water. Shark’s in the water – Quint

Sharks regrow their teeth and Leopard’s don’t change their spots. All involved need to remember this as the Thomas redemption campaign swings into full gear. I find it strange that neither Taylor or Steffy were notified of Thomas’s condition. Ridge is going to ramp it up now, particularly if Bill gets involved and is out for blood. Is it too much to hope that Brooke will support Bill? Is it too much to also hope that Ridge knows she supports Bill? Because a Mother Fucker needs to understand that you don’t get to bully your wife. And you don’t get to tell her that you saw her push your son over a cliff, with that self satisfied glint in your eye. I don’t see Ridge over the top with glee that Thomas is awake, and is apparently the six million dollar man. He almost seems disappointed. I think he was hoping that Thomas would never wake up so he would never have to face the music, and would eventually become a tragic victim, who never got to tell his side of the story. And then Ridge could turn all his anger and venom on Brooke. His loving wife who hates his son and took her first opportunity to off him. The fact that it makes absolutely no sense is irrelevant, because Ridge saw her do it. And Hope said she didn’t feel threatened. But now that Thomas is awake, Ridge not only has to support him, he has to find a way to explain how Thomas accidentally did this. So he is going to huff and puff for all he is worth in order to keep all the focus on Flo. And Dt. Lead-A-Lot is going to be sniffing around about Emma, which is going to make Ridge even angrier, and give him even more reason to lash out at Brooke.

Deep, deep, deep Fried Fuckery.

Edited September 3, 2019 by RuntheTable

[Joimiaroxeu]

Thomas may be on the road to recovery but IMO his trash daddy looked like he'd just rolled out of a gutter. And street garbage was spewing from his mouth in Brooke's general direction.

Yeah, no, I'm having a hard time seeing the blame for the Beth mess being focused on Tom now. Thomas did plenty wrong but he arrived relatively late to the party as it were. I mostly blame him for what he did to Emma, Douglas, Hope, and Liam because he wanted Hope for himself. Beth was almost a tangential issue for him while Flo and Zoe were deep in it from pretty much the beginning.

Are prisoners required to meet with whoever comes to visit them? That's like extra punishment if the visitors are people who want to all but kill them. Guess the prisoners have to suffer getting murdered by words.

I kind of like the way Flo handled Ridge. He came in with an agenda and there's nothing she could've said to change that. She was like, "Yeah, whatever, get in line."

Seriously, they can't bring Wayne Brady back for just one day to have Dr. Tower of London do a perp walk?

[TobinAlbers]

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Yeah, no, I'm having a hard time seeing the blame for the Beth mess being focused on Tom now. Thomas did plenty wrong but he arrived relatively late to the party as it were.

Said it before, I'll say it again Emily Stewart got the same writing on ATWT for helping Jen's brother, Paul, keep her baby being alive a secret.  I would not put it past this show that in the end Thomas is gonna somehow end up winning and have a wife (I honestly can see it being Hope), maybe even Beth, and Douglas. Liam may even get the villain edit by his going down the dark hole of becoming the thing he's trying to prove Thomas is and lose it all including Kelly and Steffy.

[Petunia13]

On 9/2/2019 at 6:37 PM, CharlizeCat said:

The Bell family had a friend named Ridge from way back in the day and when the Bells were first creating soaps, friend Ridge asked that one of the characters be named after him.

*I read this in one of the B&B anniversary books way back when.

How’d they come up w Thorne? 

Although few names take the cake of Blade Bladeson 😜

[Anna Yolei]

You know if I felt like Ridge gave a good goddamn about Thomas this might be a tiny bit more easy to swallow. Like back when he kidnapped Steffy when she (a grown ass 20 year old) was dating Rick. I genuinely believed it was about saving Steffy and not just dick waving because he loathed the punk ass entitled Billy Abbott-esque manchild he was acting like at the time.

But Ridge barely seems like he even LIKED this "good boy" of his until it gave him a chance to beat his chest and dunk on everyone around him. 

3 hours ago, TobinAlbers said:

Said it before, I'll say it again Emily Stewart got the same writing on ATWT for helping Jen's brother, Paul, keep her baby being alive a secret. 

Emily for sure pulled the shorter end of that stick (and her insane erratic behavior for the next year after that didn't help her case one bit), but I do remember Paul taking the lumps from his family and no one that I can recall other than Meg "Most Basic Bitch in Oakdale" Synder pretending that he was some great damn hero for "protecting" his sister from Craig. At least, not from my vantage point.

Hell, Paul wasn't even the one who switched the babies, either....that was Craig, who fucked off into the sunset pretty early into the story and Paul, like Thomas, just glomped onto opportunity to play buttinsky.

3 hours ago, TobinAlbers said:

I would not put it past this show that in the end Thomas is gonna somehow end up winning and have a wife (I honestly can see it being Hope), maybe even Beth, and Douglas. Liam may even get the villain edit by his going down the dark hole of becoming the thing he's trying to prove Thomas is and lose it all including Kelly and Steffy.

After being raped twice, it's a wonder and a testimony to Liam's overall decency that he hasn't gone dark already. 

I would have given them the benefit of the doubt too before they went off the deep end and wrecked the decent person Thomas had started to become after PF left the series. But Liam is shaping up to be the new Bridget and past transgressions and waffling aside, I'm not here for it. I loathed his passivity and the worst indecision this side of Chidi from The Good Place, but that's truly the worst of his sins. He's not delibrately vindictive or spiteful as evidenced by the fact that Quinn and Thomas both still draw breath.

If we can't have Bridget back, Liam is the next best thing we have to a white hat, and I'd hate for even that one nugget of decency that Bill and Steffy haven't managed to squash to be ruined to prop a character that's never not sucked ass.

Edited September 4, 2019 by Anna Yolei

[Mikita]

52 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

2 hours ago, TobinAlbers said:

Said it before, I'll say it again Emily Stewart got the same writing on ATWT for helping Jen's brother, Paul, keep her baby being alive a secret. 

Emily for sure pulled the shorter end of that stick (and her insane erratic behavior for the next year after that didn't help her case one bit), but I do remember Paul taking the lumps from his family and no one that I can recall other than Meg "Most Basic Bitch in Oakdale" Synder pretending that he was some great damn hero for "protecting" his sister from Craig. At least, not from my vantage point.

Hell, Paul wasn't even the one who switched the babies, either....that was Craig, who fucked off into the sunset pretty early into the story and Paul, like Thomas, just glomped onto opportunity to play buttinsky.

Ain't that the truth!

[Petunia13]

2 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

If we can't have Bridget back, Liam is the next best thing we have to a white hat, and I'd hate for even that one nugget of decency that Bill and Steffy haven't managed to squash to be ruined to prop a character that's never not sucked ass.

She was the only good girl on a soap that wasn’t a santimious bore or hypocrite and had a brain. 😩 I don’t think Bell realizes what a unicorn and fan fave he had in her. I’m sure if he brought her back he’d write her as thot or to prop some drivel. God forbid we have a woman lead who is kind, but also has a sense of self and intelligent. 

Ridge’s delusion is out of control. I’m starting to think he’s crazier than Taylor or Ally. 

@Joimiaroxeu people in jail have approved visitors lists and it is small at least the ones charged with felonies to my knowledge. I have a half sibling who was in jail and then prison and my parent had to go though a whole process to visit and even then was rejected once. I was recently carjacked and can’t visit the guy (not that I’d want to) but have to meet w the states attorney face to face and maybe be cross examined and later during sentencing give a victims impact statement. 

[bannana]

I for one am loving this vile Ridge hurling minute by minute accusations and insults at his wife.

It will speed up the timeline for when she gets cozy with Dr. Hayward Armstrong.

Keep it up, Ridge.

[CharlizeCat]

@Joimiaroxeu, I am so sorry to hear about that. I hope you're OK. What an ordeal to have to go through. {{{HUGS!}}}

[CountryGirl]

Co-signing to everything you said, @RuntheTable.

For that grubby, scruffy cretin to even dare to point a finger at her over the son we all know he doesn't give two shits about because Hauxdi is the only person he loves besides his own greasy reflection is totally rich.

He knows Thomas is a garbage human being, the same man who raped his love, Caroline II. The same man he hated so much for that, he went to great lengths to conceal Douglas' true paternity. 

But he's a "good boy" 🙄 and too many other undeserved accolades now that he is the perfect ammunition for Ridge to strike out at Brooke. ITA that he probably wishes Thomas would linger in a coma indefinitely so he wouldn't have to deal with the son he despises and he gets to drag Brooke over it.

When he told Brooke to apologize to Thomas and thank him for covering for her (nevermind it was all for his own twisted agenda), that was the straw that broke the camel's back and I could not care less about Ridge at this point.

Although if that hadn't been the straw, his comment about telling his own wife she could have been sitting next to her niece in prison...

He really is the worst and the dumbest.

While I heartily agree that Thomas came way late to the party, he has committed crimes in his past (rape, attempted murder x2) that are pretty spot-on to his crimes now, including IMO, murder, rape by proxy, and emotional abuse of his own little boy.  Of course he should pay for that and Brooke is absolutely right that he should pay. Not for what he did to Hope and Liam because lying and gaslighting aren't crimes, which seems wrong, but they don't need that because for all of the bonafide crimes he did commit, he would have a life sentence at minimum. 

Ridge is also a fucking dick for browbeating Brooke about wanting Thomas to pay when he,  himself, conspired to keep Thomas' own child from him and there was one of the few occasions that I agreed with Ridge. Because of how that child was conceived.

And Brooke isn't singling out Thomas here. Look at how she, once she knew Flo's part in all of this, wasn't giving her beloved late brother's only child ANY shred of a pass. She wanted her locked up as well. 

This exchange sums it up in a nutshell:

Ridge: "He's in that hospital bed because of you."

Brooke: "He's in the hospital bed because of his sick, twisted obsession with my daughter."

Preach it, girl!

Brooke, as I see it has two choices:

I'm good with either.

Or perhaps he can get another "ride" in a helicopter.

Elsewhere, it's so refreshing to see Flo in something besides those ridiculous onesies she was always sashaying around in. Flo, you never looked better, honey.

But why is her momma wearing orange?

Later, when Ridge came for a visit (and yeah right that Flo would have agreed to see him but perhaps she was hoping it was Wyatt?) and was yammering about poor Hauxdi and her laughable collapse when she did the right thing for once in her selfish life and returned Beth to her parents, all I could think as he tried to emote was how he couldn't have cared less about Hope or Liam.

It was all about Hauxdi, Hauxdi, Hauxdi. As usual.

But he still took the time to say this: "I never realized how pretty you are, a pretty young woman." Does the prison garb turn him on? That's rhetorical, guys.

Yeah, he actually said that. Which makes what's about to go down even more delicious.

Elsewhere, Katie and Bill share a mandatory kiss at SP and it's about as unsexy as you can imagine.

Contrast that with him going to see Brooke at FC. 

From the moment he walks in, it's as if the sun came out.

I loved how when she was starting to tell him what happened and why, he tells her: "Brooke, you don't need to explain yourself to me."

Indeed.

This man has her back. Always will.

Edited September 4, 2019 by CountryGirl

[TigerLynx]

9 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

She was the only good girl on a soap that wasn’t a santimious bore or hypocrite and had a brain. 😩 I don’t think Bell realizes what a unicorn and fan fave he had in her. I’m sure if he brought her back he’d write her as thot or to prop some drivel. God forbid we have a woman lead who is kind, but also has a sense of self and intelligent. 

So much this.  Especially the bolded.  The two are not mutually exclusive.  You can have functioning brain cells and a spine, and still be a nice person.  Nice person does not equal doormat.

8 hours ago, bannana said:

I for one am loving this vile Ridge hurling minute by minute accusations and insults at his wife.

It will speed up the timeline for when she gets cozy with Dr. Hayward Armstrong.

Keep it up, Ridge.

Hee!!!  Only problem is, at some point, Brooke will be begging Ridge to take her back.  I loath Brooke, but even I don't think she deserves the bile Ridge has been spewing at her.  However, this is par for the course with these two which is why I don't have any sympathy for Brooke.  She has spent decades chasing this loser, and she will get back together with him.  It's sad and boring.

[Pickles]

Love Bill. That is all.

[CharlizeCat]

I was meaning to come here yesterday and comment that maybe that remark Sludge made to Flo, "I never realized you were so pretty," was pure ad-lib by TK.  No wonder his performance shined yesterday. He was with a pretty considerably younger woman and he was holding center stage -- with a side of beat-down.

Ah, always nice to see me some David Tennant. We need his Det. Alec Hardy character from "Broadchurch" to come in and kick some ass with Thomas and Sludge. 

[nkotb]

This is why $Bill should've been involved in this story from the beginning. Not only does he not BS, not only is he hilarious, not only is he the prettiest pretty to ever pretty, he also elevates every scene that he's in. $Bill sitting beside Thomas' bed, having a conversation with him, was better than 90% of the scenes on this show. I wonder how much of $Bill's dialogue is DD improving? He gets the best lines, so much so that I have to believe that he improvs, because otherwise, the other actors should be pissed that they give him all of the good lines. 

For just a moment, I saw a brief glimpse of humanity in Ridge today. In that moment when he was with Bill outside of the room, telling his mortal enemy that he's worried about Thomas, & whatever else he said, for just a moment, he wasn't a total blowhard asshole, he was a devastated father, who couldn't believe what his son had done, but still loved him & wanted to help & protect him. That faded fast, but for the briefest of moments, he was vulnerable & worried. In the last 2 days, TK has had a few scenes that I'd rank among his better scenes. Interestingly, none of them were romantic.

[jenrising]

1 minute ago, nkotb said:

This is why $Bill should've been involved in this story from the beginning. Not only does he not BS, not only is he hilarious, not only is he the prettiest pretty to ever pretty, he also elevates every scene that he's in. $Bill sitting beside Thomas' bed, having a conversation with him, was better than 90% of the scenes on this show. I wonder how much of $Bill's dialogue is DD improving? He gets the best lines, so much so that I have to believe that he improvs, because otherwise, the other actors should be pissed that they give him all of the good lines. 

For just a moment, I saw a brief glimpse of humanity in Ridge today. In that moment when he was with Bill outside of the room, telling his mortal enemy that he's worried about Thomas, & whatever else he said, for just a moment, he wasn't a total blowhard asshole, he was a devastated father, who couldn't believe what his son had done, but still loved him & wanted to help & protect him. That faded fast, but for the briefest of moments, he was vulnerable & worried. In the last 2 days, TK has had a few scenes that I'd rank among his better scenes. Interestingly, none of them were romantic.

TK is always at his best with DD. The two of them are magic together - amazing chemistry. It doesn't have to be romantic (not that I would be opposed if it went that way) but the show should really lean into this and put them in a lot more scenes with each other.

[Anna Yolei]

1 hour ago, nkotb said:

wonder how much of $Bill's dialogue is DD improving? He gets the best lines, so much so that I have to believe that he improvs, because otherwise, the other actors should be pissed that they give him all of the good lines. 

IIRC, the SAG union has rules against going wildly off-script (Michelle Stafford's notorious antics on Y&R aside) but if he is, I don't blame him with the hack writing everyone gets.

[CountryGirl]

Bill, to Thomas: "How's the boo-boo?"

He also gave Thomas a scathing nickname: "Tommy Choo-Choo."

😂😂😂

I cannot wait to watch. 

Edited September 4, 2019 by CountryGirl

[TobinAlbers]

22 minutes ago, CountryGirl said:

😂😂😂

I cannot wait to watch. 

The look on Thomas's face is gold. MA is going to town in this role.

[Gam2]

Bill was absolutely everything today! I love that man!

[Anna Yolei]

22 minutes ago, TobinAlbers said:

MA is going to town in this role.

He really is spinning gold outtastraw in his delivery. I didn't expect any decent acting after his unmemorable stint on Y&R but if we had to have Thomas go full villain, they got someone capable of selling the change.

[CountryGirl]

44 minutes ago, TobinAlbers said:

The look on Thomas's face is gold. MA is going to town in this role.

That he is. I hate Thomas but damn if Matthew isn't kicking ass in this role and has made PF's portrayal a long-distant memory.

[A-Lo]

I totally fell in love all over again with $ Bill today!  Now if only Brooke can experience that same tingly feeling for him that I have!

[SimoneS]

Bill was very enjoyable tearing Thomas a new one. I wish he would get revenge on Thomas, but I don't think that anything is going to happen to Thomas, but at minimum, he should lose or give up custody of Douglas. There are so many ridiculous custody battles on the soaps, but this is one that would be justified, Thomas is an unfit parent.

@nkotb, I agree about Ridge/TK. I thought TK did a great job in that scene with DD outside of Thomas' room. For a moment, Ridge was a heartbroken father worried about his son. He was experiencing the shock and helpless that every parent feels when they discover that the beautiful baby they raised has grown up to be a monster.  My greatest fear since this story began is that Thomas will rape Hope. I was relieved that he didn't rape her on their wedding night, but I still think that it could happen.

Edited September 5, 2019 by SimoneS

[Gam2]

The worrying thing about the past few days is how many people have said that Thomas has to pay or needs to pay for his actions. Today, Dr. Yummy overheard Bill saying something along those lines as did Ridge. Are the writers telegraphing that Tom is headed for a dirt nap? We really do need a good death mystery but I have no hopes that the writers can do it justice. 

[RuntheTable]

Bill, I love you so, I always will...…….

And what else can you say.

Ever have one of those days when you just know shit is gonna go wrong? I don't support Flo, and I am sick of her trying to shift the blame to Thomas. But I was A OK with it today. She wasn't trying to lay her crimes on Thomas so much as she was trying to distance Thomas from them. Flo isn't stupid; if Thomas is lumped in with her and the rest of the gang, well then they all may get side eyed by Dt. Lead-A-Lot. Flo is guilty of many things, but she didn't have a hand in what happened to Emma. Well, then again, if there had been no secret, then Emma wouldn't have had anything to tell, so in some respects, Flo is involved. But she still didn't run Emma off the road and smile as she watched her die. Oh, and taking the reigns of the interview out of Ridge's hands was brilliant. Flo doesn't have a lot of wiggle room, but I will allow her to get mad at the asshat who just told his distraught wife that she could be sitting right next to her. Of course Flo doesn't know Ridge said that to Brooke. But I do. Fucker. 

Hang in there Brooke and don't back down. Ridge just pisses me off. He always responds with violence. Taking Bill up in the helicopter. Ganging up with Thorne and ambushing Bill in his own home. Barging into Bill's office and assaulting him. Yes, that's right Ridge; ever since your return from Paris you have had a boner for violence. You raised two entitled brats, who, just like you, feel that actions do not have consequences. Those two Marone wunderkinds, whose achievements include assault, maiming, and murdering. Those two great, strong kids, who are the spawn of your kooky ex-wife, who doesn't realize it is no longer 1993, who ran Darla down after consuming alcohol, who recently plugged Bill in the back with a bullet, and who is the person responsible for setting this entire mess in motion. So, doesn't that kinda make you just a bit responsible too Ridge? Just sayin. 

[Waldo13]

Dr Wayne Shady, Flo, Zoey, Lurch all lowsome characters, but to my mind, Ridge is the most lowsome of them all. 

Flo, is a lier but that shouldn’t be discounted by Ridge, because Flo has Xander and Zoey to back up her story or at least, Xander would. I really like the fact that Flo is not scared of Ridge.  

There was a one two punch that Ridge received today. The jab delivered by Flo and the haymaker delivered by Bill. Both were dismissive of Ridge and not the other way around. 

It’s TIIC mode of operation to keep showing flashbacks in order to try to change out prospective to what we saw In the first place. Stuffy killing Aly, Lurch raping Caroline, and now Brooke pushing Lurch.  The more I watch the push over and over again, the “shove” was not hard enough for a woman 100 lbs lighter to make Lurch all fall down. 

Something else comes to mind. Didn’t Ridge push Bill of a balcony?  That was an accident but, according to Ridge, Brooke tried to kill Lurch but he didn’t try to kill Bill given their history.

[mightysparrow]

2 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

Bill, I love you so, I always will...…….

And what else can you say.

Ever have one of those days when you just know shit is gonna go wrong? I don't support Flo, and I am sick of her trying to shift the blame to Thomas. But I was A OK with it today. She wasn't trying to lay her crimes on Thomas so much as she was trying to distance Thomas from them. Flo isn't stupid; if Thomas is lumped in with her and the rest of the gang, well then they all may get side eyed by Dt. Lead-A-Lot. Flo is guilty of many things, but she didn't have a hand in what happened to Emma. Well, then again, if there had been no secret, then Emma wouldn't have had anything to tell, so in some respects, Flo is involved. But she still didn't run Emma off the road and smile as she watched her die. Oh, and taking the reigns of the interview out of Ridge's hands was brilliant. Flo doesn't have a lot of wiggle room, but I will allow her to get mad at the asshat who just told his distraught wife that she could be sitting right next to her. Of course Flo doesn't know Ridge said that to Brooke. But I do. Fucker. 

Hang in there Brooke and don't back down. Ridge just pisses me off. He always responds with violence. Taking Bill up in the helicopter. Ganging up with Thorne and ambushing Bill in his own home. Barging into Bill's office and assaulting him. Yes, that's right Ridge; ever since your return from Paris you have had a boner for violence. You raised two entitled brats, who, just like you, feel that actions do not have consequences. Those two Marone wunderkinds, whose achievements include assault, maiming, and murdering. Those two great, strong kids, who are the spawn of your kooky ex-wife, who doesn't realize it is no longer 1993, who ran Darla down after consuming alcohol, who recently plugged Bill in the back with a bullet, and who is the person responsible for setting this entire mess in motion. So, doesn't that kinda make you just a bit responsible too Ridge? Just sayin. 

@RuntheTable, this is BEAUTIFUL.

Ridge ran all over LA looking for people to abuse and blame for his son's crimes.  He's right to hate Flo and want her to suffer.  But the second his bouncing baby boy learned the secret about Beth and DIDN'T go to the authorities, he became a co-conspirator and that has legal consequences. 

I love the fact that Flo won't allow herself to be bullied by Ridge.  She knows she's lower than low.  She also knows that she's NOT a killer.  And that gives her the right to tell Ridge to BACK THE FUCK OFF.

The most disgusting thing about Ridge is that he knows stuff about Thomas that nobody else does.  He KNOWS that Thomas is a rapist.  Perhaps Ridge doesn't think drugging a woman and having sex with her is such a bad thing because he's done it himself.  A couple of times.

@RuntheTable, you are absolutely right about Ridge, his ex-wife and his Marone Taytots.  None of them hesitate to get violent if someone gets in their way.  And if that someone dies...oh well.

If Ridge seriously believes that Brooke hates his son enough to DELIBERATELY push him off a cliff, why doesn't he leave her?  He can move in with his beloved daughter; she's got a spare room now.  But if he left Brooke, he wouldn't be able to punish and abuse her.  He wouldn't be able to snap and sneer at her over and over again.  And if he left Brooke, she might not ask him back.  Ridge is just as committed to his 'destiny' as Brooke is.  Neither one wants to admit that whatever they had died the second TK took over the role.

I wonder if Ronnnnnnnn Moss watches B&B and is horrified by what he sees.  TK has DESTROYED the character of Ridge Forrester.  He's playing Ridge Marone and it's ugly to watch.  Maybe he thinks he's playing the REAL Ridge Forrester and there's a point to be made there.  Ronnnnnn's charm covered up a lot of heinous shit.  But Ronnnnn's Ridge was a good father and TK's Ridge Marone is the exact opposite. 

Was the purpose of the scene between Bill and Katie to show us just how UNSUITED they are?  The scenes between Bill and Brooke weren't romantic but there was more chemistry than in all the snogging Bill and Katie were doing.  Bill GETS Brooke and understands/accepts her for who she is. 

I'm in the minority because I don't think the actor who plays Thomas is any good AT ALL.  He's laying in the bed TRYING to look innocent.  So HAS the fall made Thomas a 'new man'?  Or is this a 'con'?  Because just like Bill, I'm not buying it and that's because the actor isn't selling it enough, as far as I'm concerned.  He doesn't have to twirl a fake mustache.  But he does have to play the character.  There was no reaction when Bill mentioned Emma.  Has Thomas forgotten what happened with Emma? 

Playing the father in anguish might be good for TK's Emmy reel but Ridge WAS a good father.  He DID hold his children accountable when they screwed up.  Taylor was the crap parent, not Ridge.  History is being re-written every fucking day on this show.

[Joimiaroxeu]

12 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

@Joimiaroxeu, I am so sorry to hear about that. I hope you're OK. What an ordeal to have to go through. {{{HUGS!}}}

Thanks but I think you have the posters here confused. If you're referencing the carjacking that was @PETUNIA13.

Now, about today's show:

Why am I seeing Zach Slater on Bold and the Beautiful? Pine Valley is a long ways away from LA. Sigh, I used to like TK a lot but what he's doing now just seems lazy to me. He's playing a former character from a cancelled show and I'm surprised TPTB are allowing him to do it.

I really liked Brooke's earrings.

Tommy the Choo Choo. OMG, $Bill has the best lines. Kudos to whoever wrote his dialog today because he was on fire!

But Bill, have you met Ridge before? He has judges in his back pocket. Train Boy ain't paying for anything, including that dance hall of a hospital room.

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The look on Thomas's face is gold. MA is going to town in this role. 

MA may be going to town but Tommy looked to me like he was going in his bedpan. That expression on his face read to me like "Oof, sure wish I hadn't eaten all that cheese."

Edited September 5, 2019 by Joimiaroxeu

[movingtargetgal]

On 9/3/2019 at 7:22 PM, RuntheTable said:

So, over the years there have been times I have felt really sorry for Ridge:

Finding out Bridget wasn’t his

His heart attack

Finding out about his paternity

Losing his sight

Losing his ability to draw

I did not feel sorry for Ridge when he lost his ability to draw because it was his own damn fault.  He found out Brooke and Bill were getting married in Abu Dhabi and flew halfway around the world to stop the wedding.  Ridge interrupted the ceremony and dragged Brooke away against her will.  He hijacked Bill's helicopter and buckled Brooke in against her will.  When Bill saw that Brooke was strapped in and Ridge wasn't, he called Justin, who was flying the helicopter, to dump Ridge out of the open door.  Ridge dropped into the ocean and was found by locals.  He did have a minor head injury and temporarily lost his ability to draw.  It was his own fault.  Had he not flown thousands of miles to stop Brooks wedding, kidnapped her and stolen Bill's helicopter, Ridge would not have had his sorry ass dropped into the ocean.