B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat

[Js Nana]

I've sat through some execrable episodes on this show, but today's episode took the cake when it came to how detestable this show's content can be - - good thing I have a life, otherwise I'd be in a bad mood over this for a week.

[Waldo13]

Nothing turns my stomach more than Stuffy, the serial bitch, and her raggedy meeskite mother being overjoyed about the Logan’s demise 🤢🤮.  Do you know what’s worse?  Brooke turning her back on Hope FOR RIDGE 🤢🤢🤮. Ridge would never turn his back on Stuffy or even Thomas for Brooke.  It seems that Brooke and Poppy are vying for mother of the year.  

Forester Forester Forester is constantly bellowed by Stuffy.  Stuffy ignores the fact that there is not a drop of blood in her DNA. If it wasn’t for the good graces of Eric, Stuffy would be a Marone.  

Et Tu Brooke in blaming Hope and absolving Carter.  IT WAS ALL CARTER!!!  Brooke is also blaming Hope for loosing Ridge.  If I offend anyone I’m sorry,  but, it seems to me that Brooke blames Hope for her loosing Ridge like a mother would blame her daughter for not allowing her boyfriend to molest her.  

Katie just has to put her 2 cents in once again when it not even required or warranted.  Don’t talk to my sister like that. Who are you to tell Brooks daughter that?  Oh I forgot, Katie is a serial buttinsky.  

Stuffy is really starting to show. I’m wondering how long before she runs off somewhere in a huff?  Will it be because of Shiela and Luna?  I hope so. 

 

 

[Crashcourse]

For the life of me, I cannot understand why Brooke and Taylor are willing to get sloppy seconds with Ridge.  That's just nasty. 

[KnightStorm]

The whole expecting Hope to "take responsibility" for Carters plot, needs to die. Carter came up with plan, executed the plan, and then brought Hope into the plan. The very most she can be accused of is supporting him. He was the one who "betrayed" them, since Hope didn't owe them any loyalty as they already fired and humiliated her. Brooke is still hanging on to her dream of being with the most worthless man on the show(though Carter is probably runner up), and like Taylor is always happy to be his chosen one for the week.

[smartyshorts]

40 minutes ago, Js Nana said:

I watched the episode, CountryGirl, so I was not in need of a lengthy, lengthy recap.

I wholeheartedly disagree.  I wasn't able to fully appreciate it while watching because of the haze of red hot rage I was feeling toward Brooke.  Every time she re-iterated "but I lost RIDGE" I swear a small volcano erupted in my brain.  It was so hard to watch, so hard to believe how unashamedly horrible Brooke was being and how she ran roughshod over Hope's feelings unchecked time and time again.  Hope got cast as the villain in this story when she was a supporting character at best.  

Next Brooke will be "gently" encouraging Hope to move out of the cabin while still exclaiming how much she just loves having her granddaughter nearby.

I wish nothing but the best for Hope as she pulls the tatters of her life together and rises from the ashes of the people who claim to "love" her to triumph over them all.  But I already know this show will not give me that.

 

[GHScorpiosRule]

3 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

I tuned in and watched an entire episode for the first time in I cannot say how long and it was one for the ages and definitely recap-worthy.

CountryGirl—this was perfection!!!

[Artsda]

Hope was so awesome today with everything 

Katie can't handle amazing Ridge saying words like bitch and whore? She chalks it up to Hope bad day? 

Hope messed up her marriage to Liam?

Hope should have walked out and be done.  Brooke is disgusting Hope was right at the calling her out on her begging and grovelling to Ridge, her loving him more than her children. 

 

[Lilac2000]

Thanks for the recap @CountryGirl! I can't believe they keep backing the bus up and running Hope over and over again but hopefully Annika Noelle gets the Emmy she should've gotten for the Beth storyline! 

[nasir jones]

GREAT stuff between AN and KKL. The only thing I didn’t like was Hope apologizing at the end. Brooke was so out of line that she was undeserving of any apology. (Maybe for the attempted slap, I guess.) I’m wishing that the next scene with Brooke is her walking into the empty cottage just to see that Hope has taken Beth and moved out. But there’s no way I’m that lucky. I expect TIIC to have Hope begging forgiveness and groveling at Carter’s feet, especially when she sees him with Pepe Le Pew.

Hope brought this up during in her evisceration of COO Dopey, but it would’ve been true of Brooke too… the need to place all of the blame on Hope in order to avoid acknowledging that the person they cared about hurt them so deeply. It happened with the Forresters making Carter’s misdeeds all about Hope and it happened with Brooke making Ridge’s greasiness about Hope.

Brooke sounded absolutely delusional. She needs a therapist. Maybe her kids need to give her an intervention. Even Katie looked at her at one point like “This B* is crazy”. When Hope said, “Ridge called me a whore and a bitch and you still took his side”,  that should’ve devastated any parent. Not ol’ Brooke. And why did Brooke say the unforgivable stuff about Liam, Thomas(??!!!??), and Douglas? Because Hope said stuff Brooke refuses to hear about Greasy. Oops, I mean Ridge. Brooke screeched “I LOST RIDGE!!! AND I BLAME YOU!!!”  It’s Hope’s fault a grown man fell into another woman’s vagina ten minutes after he got angry with you? Is Brooke 11 years-old? My goodness.

As for those other two gibbering idiots and their root beer floats, I hope Lunatic burns that house down.

[norcalgal]

3 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

it seems to me that Brooke blames Hope for her loosing Ridge

Is this some long dormant resentment Brooke has for Hope’s existence?  We already know Brooke won’t/can’t accept that Ridge keeps bouncing back to Taylor when things don’t go his way but instead of putting the blame squarely on Ridge, Brooke would rather blame her own daughter - a daughter moreover, who is a continuing reminder of Brooke’s biggest betrayal/shame. So blaming Hope in this current situation is a way of “getting back” at Hope for existing, while conveniently gliding over how Hope came to exist. We know Brooke has a blind spot when it comes to Ridge, but this situation is allowing that to merge with some deep, deep hatred/resentment/embarrassment at Hope’s existence.  

[Js Nana]

Am I the only one who didn't know that Heather Tom had started writing for the show back in October of 2024?

[Anna Yolei]

17 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

Katie: "You need to stop before you say something you'll regret and can’t take back." Why should Hope have to regret anything? Her mother certainly forgets her transgressions even though I won't go so far as to say Brooke hasn't paid for those. She has, in spades, unlike a certain lame root-beer drinking duo.

But she clearly has learned nothing.

And this, for all that I've grown tired of the Two Minutes Hate campaigns both on screen and among fans towards Brooke in recent years, is exactly why she continues to be as hated in fandom as she is. She truly learns nothing and ruins everyone around her in her wake, most especially her children. And all the while crying her stupid lone tear about destiny or whatever the fuck.

This isn't even the first time she's fucked Hope over for a man either. Besides Bill being Katie's wife, he was also her first bully, helping Steffy with her schemes. But hey, credit where it's due, cuz Bill actually did knock the shit off when he got with Brooke and made an effort to meet her halfway. Because that's what a man who loves a woman DOES.

17 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

She reminds her mother of all of the times she literally picked her mother up off the floor, something no child should ever have to do, all so she could chase her destiny...and fail.

My mom was in a situationship for most of my formative years of my life and I spent every Christmas, New Year's and Valentine's Day from age ten to nearly 16 hearing her cry and moan about Mr Big from Wish was never gonna leave his live in girlfriend for her and then, when it finally ended when he couldn't even come by after her life saving surgery and he started flaunting new patsys at the gym--because I cannot stress what an incredibly insecure guy this was that he ALWAYS had to have at least two women after him--i had to listen to her rant about this guy for a minimum of one solid hour.

FOR A YEAR.

I suppose the only good thing I can say about my stepdick is that he got her to shut up about this jabroni. :| because yes, that shit weighs on you as a kid. It forms you. Its probably not the reason I'm asexual but between that TMI trauma dumping I grew up with and the shit in high school that was ironically compounded by my mom telling me that the worst thing a woman can be is desperate, it sure made me be at peace with not being married at forty.

And hey, Mr Big from Wish to his credit was open about that BS arrangement, unlike Ridge who spent much of their early relationship trying to manipulate her for this reason of that one. And he certainly wouldn't talk stupid to any of us kids.

Edited March 28 by Anna Yolei
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[CharlizeCat]

What a masterful, moving scene. My only objection was that I didn't think Katie was needed to mediate. Maybe that was HT's trifecta to write, direct, and act in an episode. I think the scene would have worked just fine with Brooke and Hope.

AN and KKL were at their best. It was hard to believe that Brooke, who always seemed to unwaveringly stand by Hope, turn on her with such venom. I was shocked. 

I don't know how Brooke and Hope will recover from this. I so wish the writers would give Hope a break. It seems like she's suffered nothing but heartbreak her entire life. I can't imagine the confusion she and RJ experienced while growing up, never understanding if they had "Daddy Ridge" or "Daddy Nick." Anybody else remember some of those old scenes?

The sock hop at the Cliff House was beyond ridiculous. All that was missing were poodle skirts and saddle shoes. 🙄 At the very least, RB should have dug out that old episode of HT-Taylor doing her drunken chicken "I AM Taylor Hayes" dance for inspiration. 🤣😂

[La di Diva]

I want Deacon to learn all about Ridge's name calling and Brooke's treatment of his daughter. His Daughter. The one completely good thing (despite her conception) he's done in his life.

Deacon is a grey character on the knife edge of decent, but I have always believed he loves Hope. I hope when Deacon finds out what HoboSlob said he literally tears into Ridge.

Deacon is a lot of things, but he's Hope's father. No one calls his daughter a whore and a bitch and gets away with it. No one.

[Js Nana]

I was just reading through Brooke Logan (fictional character) on Wikipedia, and the tidbits it includes about her storyline from 1987 on just really strike me as hilarious, like Ridge fell into a fire pit and everyone thought he was dead, but this one had me laughing out loud: "In 2010, Brooke repeated history, as she had once done with Deacon and Bridget, when she accidentally had sex with Hope's then-boyfriend, Oliver Jones" . . . accidentally? . . . that she was having sex when she thought she was taking a bubble bath and what she thought was a rubber ducky floating in the bath was actually her daughter's boyfriend? 

[KerleyQ]

I'm disgusted that this is the episode this show thinks is honoring women.  Yes, let's see the two threads they had running through the episode. On one hand, we had a mother so desperate for a waffling asshole that she's tearing into her daughter - the same daughter that asshole helped raise and used to consider one of his own and who he also recently called a whore and a bitch - because that asshole has waffled over to his other option.  On the other hand, we had two mean girls sitting around being catty bitches about their romantic rivals while patting themselves on the back for being perfect. What a way to celebrate women, right?  

I wish Hope hadn't hugged Brooke at the end there.  Is that supposed to make us forget everything else that happened in this episode and say "yay! Women!"?  Because, no.  Hope continued to be the only truth teller on this damn show. I loved her repeatedly pointing out to Brooke that, once again, her "destiny" isn't there, because he jumps right over to another woman every time he gets even a little irritated with Brooke. 

Hope has been repeatedly defending Brooke to the hobo and his bitchass daughter. And she does it earnestly and passionately.  Brooke can barely muster up an apologetic "oh come on, can't we all just get along" type response when those two shit all over Hope. One time she told Ridge off for using that kind of language about Hope. One time. But she never says a fucking word to Steffy.  She keeps right on thinking that, if she just kisses Steffy's ass enough, everything will be fine. And she keeps lecturing Hope about how she has to do the same. And where has that gotten you, Brooke?  Alone. Once again, Ridge did the thing he promised you he wasn't going to do. He went off half cocked when he believed the worst about you, and jumped right into Taylor's bed without bothering to check in with you to see if his first impression was accurate.  And Steffy loved every second of it.  Because no matter what you do, you will always be evil Logan trash to her.  

Oh, and one more thing, those two cackling tweens really made a caricature of who Stephanie was, didn't they?  The main thing she taught Steffy was to watch out for the Logans?  Her relationship with Brooke was way more nuanced and complicated than Steffy's petty bitchiness.  And she had no beef with Brooke's kids from what I can remember. 

Now that the coup is over, the show has remembered that Donna exists.  Couldn't have her around to represent the stuck in the middle point of view while that was going on, could they?  

How many blazer and shorts suits does Steffy own? 

ETA, because I forgot this part - I laughed when Taylor went on about how every time Ridge walks into the room, she feels like a giddy teenager.  Oh, girl, I've got some bad news for you, because he? Does not feel like that when you walk into a room. Not even close. I'd be embarrassed for you if I didn't think that you deserve the pain that's eventually coming your way when you realize that he doesn't want you once again. 

Edited March 28 by KerleyQ

[Anna Yolei]

26 minutes ago, Js Nana said:

Am I the only one who didn't know that Heather Tom had started writing for the show back in October of 2024?

I knew she had been doing directing gigin the last few years but not writing!

[Js Nana]

Broliver - The whole mistaken identity story is absurd, unless you want to believe that Brooke can't tell one magic wand from another and that Oliver wouldn't wonder why Hope's happy place felt like it had been around the block a few times.

[Js Nana]

How to give Taylor and Brooke the comeuppance they both deserve: Ashley Abbott visits FC and Ridge takes one look at her and realizes that Ashley has always been the love of his life, and Ashley takes one look at Ridge and experiences an epiphany about the devastating effect middle-aged greasy haired men in crumpled clothing have on her - she must have him, right then and right there.

[RuntheTable]

I have only been grazing on Show lately because I find it 90% unwatchable. That percentage decreased to 80% unwatchable today, with the watchability breakdown looking like this:

10% Finn is Luna's daddy

10% Hope drags Brooke through her Destiny love puddle

Although I was hella disappointed to see Hope caving at the end there. 

What I want to see is Hope embracing her inner Sharpeness; she is already a foul Logan, so why not let the Sharpe shine too? Give those worthless, backstabbing fuckers something to really talk about. 

And that includes Brooke. God, I have stood by this character through thick and thin. Always, always, having her back. But mother fucker not this time. And if Hope forgives her mother I may have to be permanently done with Show. 

Hope needs to pull back from her mother and say "Yeah, I love you mom, but you know what? You can fuck the fucking hell right off. The worthless slob you love above all else is across town laughing and gloating about my demise. You remember me right mom? Your daughter? The fucking family stain? Your actions today proved that so absolutely correct. Bye mom. Enjoy your empty bed." 

Maybe it's time for a new gang in town? The Sharpe, Carter, Nozawa faction. That ought to successfully get those Marone heifer's tongues a wagging. 

Edited March 28 by RuntheTable

[Cindylou]

Bring back Sally,   Hope and Sally can resurect HFTF and start their own company, and let it be successful!  it is Hope's Line

[NinjaPenguins]

I appreciated your recap, Countrygirl, especially since I peaced out on the show but keep checking in here in the vain hope it will improve. Apparently, show prefers to embrace being toxic Steffy fanfic. There’s no content for fans of other characters, but that’s not even the worst problem (and it’s a HUGE problem). The misogyny is deeply disturbing and at a level that should get some writers fired.

So, we have a mother who encourages and enables her child’s worst impulses, applauds her daughter’s bullying and will get her own beige behind thrown out in the cold the minute Ridge gets a hair across his ass. Otoh, we have a mother who just does not give the first fuck about her daughter’s feelings and is so obsessed with an arrogant hobo that she turns a blind eye to her “destiny”’s slut shaming her daughter. Somehow Hope ends up apologizing for… making a peep about the vile treatment she gets? I dunno.

Happy Women’s Day? Fuck off, Brad Bell. You’ve got issues.

Edited March 28 by NinjaPenguins

[SweePea59]

Brooke and Katie are dead to me. They can go drink rootbeer floats.

[Skarzero]

10 hours ago, Js Nana said:

How to give Taylor and Brooke the comeuppance they both deserve: Ashley Abbott visits FC and Ridge takes one look at her and realizes that Ashley has always been the love of his life, and Ashley takes one look at Ridge and experiences an epiphany about the devastating effect middle-aged greasy haired men in crumpled clothing have on her - she must have him, right then and right there.

Oh come on man....what's your beef with Ashley? She's been through enough. 😂

Yeah as if defending Brooke wasn't hard enough before, she just keeps hitting the fucking reset button and it's all over that shitty, abusive, Shrek(sorry Shrek/DreamWorks)impersonator. I agree with @CountryGirl. Only defending Brooke in the context of humbling Steffy & Taylor from now on because it's pretty unlikely that either of those Regina George knock-offs will ever receive the bashing they throughly deserve like she does, outside a couple corners of the internet here and there. 

10 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

really made a caricature of who Stephanie was, didn't they?  The main thing she taught Steffy was to watch out for the Logans?  Her relationship with Brooke was way more nuanced and complicated than Steffy's petty bitchiness.  And she had no beef with Brooke's kids from what I can remember. 

Stephanie treated Bridget better than Brooke treated her so yeah your spot on about that. As for the rest, idk for all of Stephanie's awfulness I don't think she usually involved kids in it, save for the custody battle of R.J & Hope which was foul on her part. Outside of that, nah, so I just don't see her fanning the anti-Logan flames while Brooke was raising her all of her grandchildren while Taylor was, thankfully but unfortunately only temporarily, dead. And while she jumped all over the chance to break Bridge up the second she came back....it's not like Stephanie knew Taylor would come back. She just got lucky like she often did. But sure....revisionist history for the win....again....😒😒😒

Damn Hope....how does it feel to be the new Bridget? Lol At least OG Bridget had the benefit of being related to Eric to fall back on, not that he did much either, but meh. Alright messed up jokes aside, this is fucked up even for their standards, because for Brooke the bar was kinda in hell anyway, but Katie? Neither Nick's or Bill's dick was involved this time. And her and Carter broke up offscreen a little while ago, so what the fuck is her excuse? Standing up for her big sis? The same big sis that slept with her ex-husband? Girl are you okay????

Something else I wish Hope had mentioned is that Brooke actually is capable of being a good parent.....just to Ridge's children and not her own. That's how much more she values Ridge over herself & her own progeny, and why this whole thing is so unforgivable to me. She would never cuss Steffy out the way Ridge did to Hope. No matter how much that little smart-mouthed, hypocrital, heifer egged her on and called her 50 different types of slut, while seeking to break up her marriage to her father, for years. And hardly so much as a "That's enough young lady." But Hope telling the truth in the only way Brooke seems to be willing to receive it from those that really mean her harm, and it's "get out of my house!" ??? Brooke's wardrobe should consist of circus clown wear from now on.

If Brad really wants to honor women, he'd go to CBS and beg them to cancel this shit. 

[Anna Yolei]

13 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

Oh, and one more thing, those two cackling tweens really made a caricature of who Stephanie was, didn't they?  The main thing she taught Steffy was to watch out for the Logans?  Her relationship with Brooke was way more nuanced and complicated than Steffy's petty bitchiness.  And she had no beef with Brooke's kids from what I can remember. 

The only major beef she had was with Rick, and regardless of his justification or how right he was about Ridge, he was the one who started that beef.  Other than one comment about turning into her mother when Bridget and Felicia were duking it out for Dante, Stephanie has never had issues with her. Hell, Steph offered to help Brooke raise Baby Hope, giving fodder to femslash fanfic writers across the world I'm sure. I don't recall her taking any sides in the Liam Wars of 2011-2012 but that was probably because she was dying of cancer and had bigger concerns.

Stephanie was...a lot but in large part, she was motivated by love to protect those around her rather than solely by spite and hatred and entitlement. And that attitude extends well beyond Hope, who wasn't a factor in Steffy making a beeline to come between Liam and Ivy (a blood Forrester, mind you) because "I had him first" or conspiring with Bill yet again to separate Thomas and Sally bc of beef with Sally 1.0 that Stephanie herself has moved past before Steffy was out of diapers.

 

2 hours ago, Skarzero said:

If Brad really wants to honor women, he'd go to CBS and beg them to cancel this shit. 

Honestly, if BtG continues it's upswing in viewership, he probably won't need to. 

[Waldo13]

Hey Deacon, you have a short memory about Bill.  Didn’t he help you get out of prison so you could help Bill thwart Hope’s marriage to Liam in Italy.  Deacon aren’t you also a parolee and served time in jail for other various crimes. 

Of course Hollis and Tom are Deacon’s BFF’s. They are the only two friend Deacon had. 

So Deacon is taking a page out of Stuffy’s playbook with giving Shiela an ultimatum. It Luna or me.  

I had enough of Stuffy, Taylor, Carter, Brooke, Ridge and the other usual suspects this week. Thankfully they were not on today.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Just to add a little bit more analysis to the terrific recap, I actually think BOTH Brooke & Hope missed the mark.  I mean, they both got some points right & then veered off.

Look, Brooke was right that Carter’s plan was morally wrong — and she warned Hope about it from the start.  Hope really never acknowledges this — and she should.

Now, where Brooke gets it wrong is she never seems to acknowledge the absolutely wrong narrative being pushed by Steffy & Ridge that Hope was the “bad” influence on Carter & the reason this company takeover plan was initiated.  And she doesn’t respond at all when Hope reminds her of the vile names Ridge called her.

Hope said quite a few dead-on facts about Brooke that were probably just too cruel to say out loud.  Katie wasn’t wrong to shut her down.  Idk, I liked them hugging it out at the end.  Look, neither of these 2 are anything like the horrible other 2, which Heather’s script cleverly tried to contrast.  To me, it made sense they’d realize how much they need each other, & want to support each other during an especially difficult time in both of their lives.  Bell should let Heather do more writing!

And back to stupidity & general ickiness today — Lunatic’s hitting on Will was really nauseating!

[Anna Yolei]

On 3/27/2025 at 4:39 PM, KnightStorm said:

The whole expecting Hope to "take responsibility" for Carters plot, needs to die. Carter came up with plan, executed the plan, and then brought Hope into the plan. The very most she can be accused of is supporting him. 

And even there she was nothing at all like the way Maya was hissing in Rick's ear to be a legit bully to everyone at FC (which Ivy having been there for that can and should attest to), or how Stephanie actively plotted with Eric on how to keep Belief from Brooke.

Come to think of it, Ivy can also attest to the time she had to work directly under Hope after being brought into Quinn's jewelry line and how Hope was truly trying to throw her weight around until Ivy reminded her it washer last name on the door, not Hope's, and not in the braggy way Steffy usually always means it. She's seen Hope at her mean girl propped worst. This wasn't even close.

[RuntheTable]

For me it is pretty simple.

If Hope is going to forgive Brooke, I will only accept it on certain terms.

The first being the permanent end of Bridge. 

The second being Brooke and Deacon finding their way back to each other. 

It has been a problem my whole life you know? I like nice things. 

But I won't get it. Brooke, Ridge and Taylor will be swapping beds into the next century. 

Edited Saturday at 11:37 AM by RuntheTable

[La di Diva]

I think it boils down to the fact Brooke doesn't care that Ridge called Hope a whore and a bitch.  Stephanie for years called Brooke the Slut From the Valley. Brooke hated it and it hurt her, but she put up with it. I don't remember RMRidge ever telling his "Muuuuuther" to stop the name calling.  So Brooke is taking her cue from Ridge's past behavior.

She thinks Hope should just get over the name calling.  

I also have the suspicion that Brooke, while not believing Hope is an actual whore, thinks her daughter has a sluttish past, and kinda sorta deserves the name calling. Yes I know pot - kettle, and it's so not true and Hope's list of lovers is far shorter than Stuffy's or Taylor's or Brooke's.

But ......... Hope is the result of Brooke's affair with Deacon. She's thought of as a stain on the family. Hope put herself out there with the whole HFTF idea, She was with Thomas while refusing to marry him, etc.  I think Brooke is projecting on to Hope her guilt over Deacon and Oliver; her guilt over Hope's birth; her internal guilt over Bill while he was married to Katie; her internalization of Stephanie's name calling. Basically her whole past.

Not slut shaming anyone but ....Hope has far less of a sexual past than La Principessa Stuffy. However La Principessa is a "Forrester" and can do no wrong. Every. Single. One. of her actions or decisions or utterances  or commands, or tantrums is the most bestest and most rightest and most greatest thing ever done in the entire history of the universe.

While Hope is just a low down, low class Logan. A whore and a bitch.    

 

 

[KerleyQ]

9 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

For me it is pretty simple.

If Hope is going to forgive Brooke, I will only accept it on certain terms.

The first being the permanent end of Bridge. 

This is what I was thinking, too.  She needs to fix herself first. She needs to be done with Ridge and really grasp why she should be done with him, and what a toxic asshole he is.  And then she needs to apologize to Hope not just for this, but for a lifetime of dealing with the fallout of her mother chasing her "destiny."  And her being done with him has to be after the next time he tries to get back together with her.  It's easy to be done with him when he says he's committed to Taylor and not coming back. She needs to reject him, fully, and completely.  And when she does it, she needs to unload on him for all the shit he's pulled. 

She should have been done with him during Taylor's last return, even before the CPS call shenanigans.  He knew his kids were trying to get him back with their mother, and he still went to those nightly "family dinners" that his wife wasn't invited to, and he let the kids talk about how great it is to have their family back together while Taylor hung all over him. And that was all openly in front of his wife's sister (and some nights, in front of Hope, too). Nobody, with an ounce of self-respect, would put up with that shit. But Brooke, did. She let him go spend every evening with his "real family," and then come home to her for sex. 

As for yesterday's show... 

Deacon, I love you, really, I do.  But, do you listen to the shit you're saying?  Other than the victims being people you cared about, there is nothing you were saying about Luna that doesn't apply at least double to your wife. (And, actually, one of her more recent crimes was against someone you care about - when she slipped Brooke booze). You accept the shit she's done because you love her (although the only thing you can cite when saying how much you love her is how good the sex is), but you can't see how she is able to accept the shit Luna's done because she's her granddaughter?  When you know how desperate she has been to have some connection to her son and grandson, do you really think she's going to look at a granddaughter, ready and willing to be a part of her life, and not jump at the chance?  

I have never liked Sheila, but I feel like I'm all in on the Sheila/Luna grandma/granddaughter duo.  Get out there and start fucking some shit up, you psychos.  

It's really too bad that Steffy doesn't want to form a relationship with her stepdaughter, because they have a lot in common.  Luna is taking a page directly from Steffy's book here.  Lusting after one of Bill's sons, finding out that his girlfriend isn't ready to have sex yet, and offering up her body to him?  I'm assuming from the previews that he turns her down and tells Electra about it right away, hence that confrontation scene, but I'd bet it won't be long before he starts secretly liking the attention and doesn't discourage her from continuing to offer. 

Also, Will and Electra are at the "I love you" stage already? I'm old enough to remember when soaps built up to that shit with their young couples, and not only did we not see any buildup outside of him saving her from Remy, but the first declarations seem to have happened off screen.  Heaven forbid they cut some of the endless scenes of Everybody Loves Steffy to show development on any storyline that doesn't have to do with her. 

[Js Nana]

6 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

Will and Electra are at the "I love you" stage already?

What I found hilarious about that scene was that Will stuffed a forkful of food in his mouth and then told Electra he loved her, because nothing says sincerity like telling someone you love them while you're chewing on food - what's more important to you, expressing your deepest feelings to the person sitting opposite you or eating.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Oh Electra, poking the bear, when this "bear" is a total loon who has casually murdered 2 people?  Not smart, hun, not smart!

[Anna Yolei]

9 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Oh Electra, poking the bear, when this "bear" is a total loon who has casually murdered 2 people?  Not smart, hun, not smart!

Especially when, unlike Steffy, she doesn't have plot armor to keep her from not dying 🤣

[lightninggirl]

On 3/29/2025 at 5:01 PM, KerleyQ said:

I have never liked Sheila, but I feel like I'm all in on the Sheila/Luna grandma/granddaughter duo.  Get out there and start fucking some shit up, you psychos.

😂😂😂 I'm totally on board with this! I can't stand Will so I'm reaaalllly looking forward to Lunatic messing him up.

[Cool Breeze]

On 3/28/2025 at 5:46 PM, ScoobieDoobs said:

Just to add a little bit more analysis to the terrific recap, I actually think BOTH Brooke & Hope missed the mark.  I mean, they both got some points right & then veered off.

Look, Brooke was right that Carter’s plan was morally wrong — and she warned Hope about it from the start.  Hope really never acknowledges this — and she should.

Now, where Brooke gets it wrong is she never seems to acknowledge the absolutely wrong narrative being pushed by Steffy & Ridge that Hope was the “bad” influence on Carter & the reason this company takeover plan was initiated.  And she doesn’t respond at all when Hope reminds her of the vile names Ridge called her.

Hope said quite a few dead-on facts about Brooke that were probably just too cruel to say out loud.  Katie wasn’t wrong to shut her down.  Idk, I liked them hugging it out at the end.  Look, neither of these 2 are anything like the horrible other 2, which Heather’s script cleverly tried to contrast.  To me, it made sense they’d realize how much they need each other, & want to support each other during an especially difficult time in both of their lives.  Bell should let Heather do more writing!

And back to stupidity & general ickiness today — Lunatic’s hitting on Will was really nauseating!

100% agree. 

I'd also say Brooke got it wrong blaming Hope for the coup.  Hope was an innocent bystander to Carter's machinations.  He's the attorney.  He's the one who conceived of the plan and he's the one who executed the plan.  That said, Hope cannot completely dodge responsibility here.  She has been a true partner to Carter at work and everything was a "we" decision.  Even in this argument, she said "we" multiple time, e.g., "We took over Forrester . . . ."  So, she has to own that.

I'd also add that where Hope got it very wrong was her saying Brooke never supported/was there for her.  That could not be further from the truth.  Hope might want to ask Rick and Bridget about their experiences.  Both of them were pushed aside for "Destiny" or Deacon or something to the point where Rick shot a guy and Bridget thought she was in love with her father/brother Ridge.  Those two were the ones who really suffered under Brooke's parenting. 

On the other hand, Brooke has always acted as though the sun shone right out of Hope's butt.  Hope had a very annoying princess phase with multiple parties in her honor, etc., but I always felt Brooke was overcompensating for the circumstances of Hope's birth so it made sense to me.  The idea Brooke was never there for her is ridiculous.  But, IRL, people say ridiculous, untrue things in the heat of an argument so this actually felt natural.

And if Heather wrote that scene, good on her.  Very well done.  And I think her self-insert was totally organic.  Those two needed a third-party mediator.

[Crashcourse]

Deacon:  Are you so desperate for great sex that Nine Toes is the best you can do--in LA, no less, where there are plenty of women you could have great sex with?  I pity your dumb ass.

I'm sick of looking at Luna.  I know we'll be seeing more of her, so I'll just have to watch this show sparingly.  

[Js Nana]

I didn't care about anything that was said or happened on today's show, but maybe three straight days of miserable gray weather makes you just plain not care about anything, but when will the next sunny day arrive - {sigh}

1 hour ago, lightninggirl said:

I can't stand Will

He does resemble a smug, well-fed adolescent, doesn't he.

[ScoobieDoobs]

So why’d Will tell Lunatic he wanted to “grab” her?  It sounded physically abusive & threatening, & I suspect that’s not what he meant to imply at all.  But given the piss poor writing on this show, it’s not surprising.

Hey Heather, since your part has descended into mostly nothingness, why not write full time?  Could only be a vast improvement over the senseless crap thrown at us now.

[Waldo13]

Deacon is a low life jail bird as is Shiela but they have changed but they can’t see the possibility of Luna changing.  I guess it’s because her actions were more personal. 

Stuffy is making Finn promise not to let Luna and Shiela anywhere near their family. That promise will hold until Stuffy will be off on maternity leave 😉. 

Electra vs Luna seemed to me like the present day version of Hope vs Stuffy. Hope, the sweet young “virginal” young lady vying for Liam’s attention against Stuffy, the bad ass who would be more prone to seduction to get Liam. 

You go Shiela. Family is important and don’t be like Deacon who doesn’t seem like family is all that important to him.  If I was Deacon, I would be up in Ridge’s face for calling my daughter a bitch and a whore.  

[KerleyQ]

It's adorable that Deacon believes Sheila is just going to stay away from Luna. When did he become so naive? And, again, through his whole rant about her, I was just saying to my TV "look who you're married to."  

Then we had Steffy telling Steffy's Husband how they're going to get through the discovery that Luna is his daughter together.  You know, as long as he listens to her, obeys her rules, and doesn't have a single thought or feeling without her express written consent. 

And now that they're doing Steffy/Liam/Hope, The Sequel, with Luna/Will/Electra, they have to go over the top with Electra not being ready for sex yet.  Now she can't even kiss Will, and has to obviously snub him when he tries to kiss her?  Heaven forbid we get any kind of nuance to the story. How long until Electra has her own line of purity rings at FC? And we'll see Will wearing one of them as he sneaks around banging Luna, of course. 

[Cool Breeze]

I am so tired of Bell's predilection for feminine "purity".  it seemed antiquated and archaic decades ago.  Why we still have these virginal (not necessarilty virgin) characters and storylines, in the year 2025, I'll never know.

[RuntheTable]

After reading some of my fellow poster’s comments, I had to rewatch/rethink that Friday episode. I believe I rushed to judgement out of anger and disappointment. I now appreciate the juxtaposition of a mother and daughter acting like a pair of high school mean girls and a mother and daughter being brutally honest with each other. And after tearing each other apart, being able to hug it out and declare their love for each other without dancing on anyone else’s grave.

Having said that, I still want this to mean something. Please, don’t let us have Hope rejoining the Bridge gravy train, supporting her mother in her never ending struggle to keep that loser's attention. Let Hope’s words sink in and resonant with Brooke, and allow them to free her of the fucking Destiny albatross she has carried for three decades. I want to see Hope and Brooke rid themselves from the Forrester toxicity. Let Hope step out and start her own thing, supported and backed by her parents. Deacon can use the restaurant as collateral, and Brooke is loaded. Do away with the whole HFTF thing, let Forrester twist in the wind with that. Have a new message that is current, and more relevant to someone Hope’s age. Hit on hot topics, the homeless, animal welfare, disabled vets, hungry children, something that actually matters and could make a difference. And no couture. Nuh Uh. Just beautiful clothes for the average person, while across town Forrester continues to cater to the rich and elite.

Now comes the really freaky, deaky shit. In an effort to promote forgiveness, retribution, and second chances, let Hope embrace Luna, and make Luna her personal assistant. For me, that would be so reminiscent of when Brooke took over FC’s and named Sheila as her personal liaison.

Have Sheila and Luna be sassy little manipulators, but no poisoning, or murder, or kidnapping, or bees. Dark and twisted, but ultimately harmless.

I know I said in a prior post that I would like to see Brooke and Deacon reconcile. I have also rethought that. I think I like them so much better as friends, let them stay that way and co-parent Hope. I want to see Brooke and Hope standing on their own with no men in their lives. Have Brooke remind Deacon who he is married to, and all the risks he has taken to keep Sheila in his life. Have her encourage him to make peace with Luna, and reconcile with Sheila, thus creating a whole new faction to challenge those raging hypocrites.

Outside of that, just watching the massive explosion of their collective heads would be worth it.

Oh, and before I forget, let Finn finally collect his balls and tell his jailer to fuck off, and let him and Katie start commiserating…….

[ScoobieDoobs]

Uh-oh, girl fight!  Will there be mud wrestling too?  Is this where ya wanna go, Show?  Well, of course!  This show luvs, luvs, luvs 2 women fighting over an idiot/worthless man.

So I pointed out before, it’s a bad choice for Electra to poke at a nutcase who’s murdered people, but doing it with Sheila as a witness/referee?  Oh this can’t end well.

Not hard to predict Will considering Lunatic’s sleazy offer since he ain’t gettin’ any from Electra.

[Crashcourse]

I like Electra going after Lunatic (even though I don't think it's going to go well for Electra), but Will is not "taken" Electra.  Sure, he looks and acts like a human biscuit, but he's not some object that you "took." 

Still, I'd love to see Electra go batshit crazy and pummel Lunatic and Sheila to death.  And then she gets a pardon.  I mean, why not? 🤷‍♀️

[Waldo13]

Yes Taylor you are one of those mothers who just barge in without being announced. What is Stuffy and Finn were naked on the couch?  You probably would have sat there and watched 😜. 

Luna is a psycho but you don’t have the high ground on judging other people when you and your serial bitch daughter’s actions come into question.  For them, sit always rolls downhill. 

These flashbacks are killing me.  Seeing it the first time was more than enough.  

Didn’t Stuffy just get her beloved FC back?  So why is she just standing there in her living room bitching about Shiela and Luna instead of being at work. CO CEO my ass. 

Stuffy is so afraid of what Luna will do but yet she has to confront her. Now we have Electra throwing caution to the wind and confronting Luna. 

 

 

[Js Nana]

After watching today's show, I have to ask -is Electra nuts, or just dangerously naive.

[Chatty Cake]

50 minutes ago, Js Nana said:

After watching today's show, I have to ask -is Electra nuts, or just dangerously naive.

Why would she confront a killer at the place where they killed 2 people and at the place she was held by Remy? I would have told told Luna via text that she and Will would make a cute couple. And then stay away from all of them. 

[KerleyQ]

Finn has the shittiest in-laws.  They love to remind him how terrible his bio mother and daughter are. It's like the family past time. And, no, Taylor, saying "no offense" doesn't negate the offense.  Also, Taylor, have you heard of knocking?  Your daughter just got done telling her husband, again, that he's not allowed to have any relationship with Sheila or Luna, so, of course, they were about to have sex. That's her second favorite form of foreplay, right behind talking about you and her father banging.  

[Snaporaz]

How could Finn have a flashback to a scene he wasn't even in, when Luna had Steffy in the cage?  

Loved the bemused look on Luna's face when Elettra treated her!