Kohola3 January 28, 2015 Share January 28, 2015 "Stealing the children" ranks right up there with how toasters kill people. 1 9 Link to comment
technorebel January 28, 2015 Share January 28, 2015 On Twitter Christine is : Christine Brown @rosecolored6 , so I guess she has some insight into herself after all. This tweet by Christine is interesting. https://twitter.com/rosecolored6/status/559544703687737348 Was anything like this discussed on the show? Yes, briefly. They seem to think that someone can just come and remove your children just because you're a polygamist. It doesn't surprise me that Christine would believe it because, frankly, she's not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, even though I find her to be fairly likeable. 5 Link to comment
Marigold January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 Christine seems to have some paranoia issues. Link to comment
RedheadZombie January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 Christine seems to have some paranoia issues. I agree, but they're deeply ingrained from her childhood. At some point, all those fears were legitimate, and they've been passed on as truths for generations. People like Christine don't know that things have changed, because they spent so much time hiding, smuggling babies in and out of houses in boxes, and worrying that Child Services will come knocking on their door. And even though they know that FLDS is an extremist child-abusing group, they still witnessed their children being round up and removed, while the mothers panicked and cried. I think there's some paranoia in mainstream LDS as well, and they have a bit of a martyr-complex. All their stories start with poor Joseph Smith and how he was persecuted and murdered. And I think that people like Christine are especially paranoid about Utah, because the government talks strongly about anti-polygamy, but does not disavow Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, or any of the polygamy that existed back then. It must seem like cognitive dissonance to Christine. 1 Link to comment
SometimesBites January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 (edited) How in the world is a single woman (grandmother) who has just left polygamy, probably with minimal employment skills and income, going to take away 4-5 children from Christine? Tut tut, Galloway Cave. Don't go looking for higher-order thinking processes from Christine. ;) Edited January 30, 2015 by NewBaku 5 Link to comment
Oldernowiser January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 As someone with a degree in political science and history, the easiest way to keep an oppressed population compliant with the regime is to convince them there's an even greater enemy out there. Christine is Exhibit A for how well this can work. 13 Link to comment
SometimesBites January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 the easiest way to keep an oppressed population compliant with the regime is to convince them there's an even greater enemy out there. Bingo. The Brown women's behavior is very Stockholm Syndome-ish: I'm basically a prisoner in a situation that isn't in my best interest, but I stay because I swallow the propaganda of my captors. Fun times. 2 Link to comment
CofCinci February 3, 2015 Share February 3, 2015 My heart goes out to Christine through this divorce/marriage drama. She cannot be taking this well. 7 Link to comment
Featherhat February 5, 2015 Share February 5, 2015 Flip I've just been reading some of the history of Christine's family. She's right to be paranoid but not about outsiders. Her grandparent's and parents generation have multiple kinslayings, incestuous marriages and sexual abuse on a large scale. And this is the "PR friendly" group, not FLDS. If they didn't preach paranoia about the rest of the world, no one would stay around. 1 Link to comment
Fosca February 5, 2015 Share February 5, 2015 As has been stated elsewhere, Christine's meltdown over Kody's friend telling him he should ditch all the wives but the one he's legally married to makes a lot more sense now that we know that Kody was planning to divorce Meri and marry Robyn. I'd freak out too, in those circumstances, that the divorce/marriage might be the first step in doing just that, given Kody's obvious preference for Robyn anyway. Not to say Christine's not paranoid; she is, but she has indeed been raised since birth to be so. 8 Link to comment
Waterlilly February 5, 2015 Share February 5, 2015 There are some really good books out there about the LeBarons, written by the wives. 2 Link to comment
BitchOnWheels February 12, 2015 Share February 12, 2015 Robyn Sullivan Brown @LuvgvsUwngs @MySisWifesClos has been such a big fun adventure! I am so grateful for our loyal customers who have made our business grow! Thanks you! what??? Feb 8 Christine Brown @rosecolored6 Okay, real behind the scenes? I TOLD @realkodybrown that he should kiss his next wife before they got married. Yep! I did! #SisterWives What a LIE!!!! 3 Link to comment
purpleflowers February 12, 2015 Share February 12, 2015 Feb 8 Christine Brown @rosecolored6 Okay, real behind the scenes? I TOLD @realkodybrown that he should kiss his next wife before they got married. Yep! I did! #SisterWives What a LIE!!!! Yeah, I am not convinced she is telling the truth on that one. Christine always seems to backtrack or contradict herself to apologize for her behavior, as if she thinks she doesn't have the right to feel jealous or betrayed. Kind of like when she compared herself to her "ornery" children when she was depressed after her last wife position was usurped by Robyn. Since Kody never acknowledges that it makes sense for her to be upset, it seems like she tries to convince herself that she's at fault. I think Christine is the most insecure of all the wives despite her loud, peppy persona. 4 Link to comment
Galloway Cave February 12, 2015 Share February 12, 2015 (edited) At the time there were too many THs from Christine about how they don't kiss before marriage and she was really upset about his behavior with Robyn. So I am calling BS also. They all know that Robyn was crucified for kissing Kody while Christine was in labor and since this episode was the Robyn Redemption Eppie, I bet Christine was told to put up the tweet. My bet is Kody was behind it. Edited February 12, 2015 by Galloway Cave 9 Link to comment
Featherhat February 12, 2015 Share February 12, 2015 Seriously. Christine was very upset, on camera. Her last pregnancy (time of attention from Kody) got ruined by a thin, "hot", next wife being courted and Kody was driving for hours to visit her at one point. It was clear from what we saw filmed that Robyn was loving the attention and kissing was probably not the only thing the only way she secured it. Christine is the woman who walked off the set on camera when she found out Kody and Robyn chose her dress together. We learned from other sources it was for 3 days. She's that upset about that non sexual Brown/AUB ritual being destroyed by Robyn she's not going to *encourage* Kody to do anything physical unless she is 100% a doormat and that is not how she has tried to portray herself. She's either trying to convince herself that everything is super fine in happy, shiny plyg world or she has been manipulated into retracting a lot of footage which shows her *at the time* being very critical of Kody/Robyn. But hey she was being totally unreasonable because its not like pregnancy is sometimes when you need someone to give you extra emotional and practical support, no its the best time to also be "multiplying love" in a totally different way to your 3rd wife literally multiplying. 5 Link to comment
Kohola3 February 13, 2015 Share February 13, 2015 My bet is Kody was behind it. Yeah, since when is the Cult Puppet Master NOT behind manipulating his followers. 4 Link to comment
Galloway Cave February 13, 2015 Share February 13, 2015 Yeah, since when is the Cult Puppet Master NOT behind manipulating his followers. Well, I had originally written either Kody or TLC were behind it but changed it to Kody, because, yeah- what you wrote. Link to comment
purpleflowers February 13, 2015 Share February 13, 2015 (edited) I bet Christine was told to put up the tweet. My bet is Kody was behind it. Yeah, I can so see Kody reminding Christine that she supposedly said it and trying to convince her she must've forgotten. I don't see the healthiest relationship between those two these days. Even if Christine did say it way back when, she was probably speaking hypothetically and never imagined there would ever be another wife. Can't blame her for getting upset when the pre-marital smooching actually happened. But she called herself "selfish" about it on twitter! Sad. And Robyn responded with her smug-humble self saying "It can be confusing, hugs!" Edited February 13, 2015 by purpleflowers 3 Link to comment
RealityCowgirl February 13, 2015 Share February 13, 2015 This is a woman who walked out over dress shopping. Dress. Shopping. I believe that action far more than any tweet years after the fact. 7 Link to comment
BlackWidow February 13, 2015 Share February 13, 2015 This is a woman who walked out over dress shopping. Dress. Shopping. I believe that action far more than any tweet years after the fact. I doubt it was the dress shopping per se but more the feeling of being betrayed, like oh here's all the women picking out the dresses, the sneaky factor of it- like Robyn just went with all of them to kiss ass, but secretly it is all about the teenage lovebirds and not about building a relationship of trust and respect with the other women when Chris was probably trying to give her a chance. And of course having to watch all the tv stuff like "Tee hee, Kody's my soulmate!" or "I got what I waaanteddd!" (finding out what kind of kodling she was having).. or the constant gross plaintive 12-year-old tone during sofa whinefests "Wuuuull, I had to move all the way here......" and so on. The 'you can kiss your next wife' comment, might be another half-truth meant for #5, maybe she did say it, but said it post-robyn- just sayin lol 6 Link to comment
Featherhat February 13, 2015 Share February 13, 2015 I do think in general Christine felt she had a good deal in her faith Before.Robyn. She was the 3rd and last wife for 15 years, she and Janelle made it work between them. She was having the girls, (mostly) and Janelle was having the boys (mostly) at the same time. Meant.to.be! Supposedly the AUB were unlikely to approve another wife based on financial standing, so they finally get a good set up in Lehi...........And suddenly Robyn has wondered in and becomes new tasty flavour of the TLC show. Literally her nightmare. *And* it's proven dawned on fans that is *is* a huge amount about sex and fertility, no matter what they spout. 6 Link to comment
BlackWidow February 14, 2015 Share February 14, 2015 (edited) I do think in general Christine felt she had a good deal in her faith Before.Robyn. She was the 3rd and last wife for 15 years, she and Janelle made it work between them. She was having the girls, (mostly) and Janelle was having the boys (mostly) at the same time. Meant.to.be! Supposedly the AUB were unlikely to approve another wife based on financial standing, so they finally get a good set up in Lehi...........And suddenly Robyn has wondered in and becomes new tasty flavour of the TLC show. Literally her nightmare. *And* it's proven dawned on fans that is *is* a huge amount about sex and fertility, no matter what they spout. (featherhat) thinner and sorta younger or not- the lost little girl who talks baby talk, oh rescue me white knight thing only gets you so far before you're just like, well, sorta boring. It's great when someone is all omgomg you're the best thing since sliced bread- decorate your sacred boudoir with all the little knickknacks from past memories all you want, but all that junk and even occasional satisfactory banging doesn't make up for someone whose mind you respect, who has other not only endearing, but enduring qualities. Gather ye rosebuds while ye may, because the bloom may be off the rose soon enough. Still liking Christine's nerd glasses and her outfit she had on one of the recent sofa sessions, the one with I think a reddish jacket and a scarf. She has such beautiful hair even in a ponytail.Janelle I think I prefer her retro glam look as opposed to the flat hair look. Meri I'm with you guys about losing the self tanner- she seems to be really photogenic in all the press photos though, with her less is more (less big hair, less eyeliner, less orange). Still loving all the snark here, these ladies know how to bring it. Edited February 14, 2015 by BlackWidow 2 Link to comment
SometimesBites February 14, 2015 Share February 14, 2015 Gather ye rosebuds while ye may, Anyone who uses the term "sacred boudoir" and quotes 17th century poetry in a single post DEFINITELY wins the internet today. :) 7 Link to comment
GEML February 14, 2015 Share February 14, 2015 Christine is exhibit A for living with cognitive dissonance. She changes her history to suit her needs emotionally. Almost all successful polygamous wives have to do it, or you get the flip side of the coin (used by her mother and aunt for example) "I was living a lie." I doubt Kody asked or made her do it at all. That would require leadership and actual direction on his part. I think she's retold the story in her own head so many times she now believes she thought and did something differently. And her family is gentle enough to not correct her memories, because when they do, it's a mental breakdown for her and incredibly unpleasant for all of them. Robyn coming in, just by coming in, broke down a lot of false memories. This "wedding" is likely breaking down a lot of false memories. I bet she has explosive moments but hides them well. 2 Link to comment
youcantbeserious February 14, 2015 Share February 14, 2015 Or she can just simply be a lousy/nervous actress who can't follow a script very well. There's many, many scenes that look to be so especially when they were running to Las Vegas " afraid " of being arrested for bigamy in Utah. Link to comment
youcantbeserious February 14, 2015 Share February 14, 2015 Even better: wacky in a GOOD way, as opposed to the Meri way. Team Christine! To me, anyway, there's no comparison as Christine appears refreshingly earthy vs Meri who may very well be bi-polar. Notice how she wanted another child for so long yet rejected opportunities ( Kody's fertility & Robyn's surrogacy offers ). Of the four, she's definitely the one I'd most want to hang out with. And I say she's the one who seems to have the most natural chemistry with Cody. hmmm...now that's interesting. I would've said that about Robyn & Kody, where I see genuine joy for both. WIth Christine, it seems more on her side. I think Christine is angry nice in a keep it sweet way. (She is really pissed but overcompensates by being cheerful). Isn't that called passive-aggressive? 1 Link to comment
youcantbeserious February 14, 2015 Share February 14, 2015 There was a discussion to change the general chat title (I love the new title BTW!) - could we change Christine's also? I'm thinking something like 'She Wanted a Family, Not Just The Asshat' (Douchebag, King of Idiots, Kody-Clown, really too many to list here). 'She Wanted a Family, But She Got A Bunch Of Crying Adults and 1 Ass-Clown. etc. Anybody else? How about: " She wanted a Family, But She got Peter Pan & The Lost Boys ( and girls ) "Stealing the children" ranks right up there with how toasters kill people. No one will have to stela the children. They're starting to leave already, in 2015, for out of area colleges. Yes, briefly. They seem to think that someone can just come and remove your children just because you're a polygamist. It doesn't surprise me that Christine would believe it because, frankly, she's not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, even though I find her to be fairly likeable. The fact that Chrisitne's still with Kody after he was making out with Robyn while she was giving birth to Truly is pathetic. 2 Link to comment
wifey81 February 16, 2015 Share February 16, 2015 I feel really, really sorry for Christine. It seems she married Kody out of some kind of defence-mechanism she had about polygamy. From tonight's episode, we know that Christine married Kody not too long after Christine's mom's divorce. It seems that even though she was a young adult by the time her mom dared to break away from the fold and try to find some happiness, the divorce really affected Christine. She seems to have been oblivious to her mother's unhappiness in the marriage, and quite angry with her mother for breaking up the family. This seems to have grown to be an overly defensive block she has about polygamy - by her own admission she wanted to be a 3rd wife. Its like unconsciously she was saying "Mom you were wrong, life was great - I'll show you how wrong you were and marry Kody and have the same wonderful life you had!" Sadly of course, history has repeated itself, as it always does, and Christine is in the same kind of empty marriage her mom describes leaving. But of course, Christine is stuck her some teenage rebellion and hell bent on sticking with the marriage, despite the OBVIOUS misery. Its really quite sad. 13 Link to comment
youcantbeserious February 24, 2015 Share February 24, 2015 Yes, briefly. They seem to think that someone can just come and remove your children just because you're a polygamist. It doesn't surprise me that Christine would believe it because, frankly, she's not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, even though I find her to be fairly likeable. I suspect Christine is not such a dimwit as some believe. After all, she takes direction from TLC quite well: knows her/lines, when/where to sit/stand while on camera. 1 Link to comment
youcantbeserious February 24, 2015 Share February 24, 2015 Even better: wacky in a GOOD way, as opposed to the Meri way. Team Christine! I agree. Christine appears to react to events around her while Meri reacts to stuff inside her. It's probably the difference between being eccentric to mentally ill. 1 Link to comment
SometimesBites February 28, 2015 Share February 28, 2015 Guys, I decided to post this here, and my apologies if any of you is the lady who wrote this book. But I stumbled across this video and all I could think of was Christine's fishstick tacos with a side of corn (not to mention mock tapioca...) https://www.asseenontv.com/dump-cakes-as-seen-on-tv/detail.php?p=531563&v=kitchen Link to comment
jellywager February 28, 2015 Share February 28, 2015 Any recipe that has the word dump in it does not sound appealing. 1 Link to comment
mbutterfly February 28, 2015 Share February 28, 2015 You guys are too young. Dump cakes were quite popular in the 80s when so many mothers were doing it all -- climbing the professional ladder while caring for young families. 7 Link to comment
Kohola3 February 28, 2015 Share February 28, 2015 You guys are too young. Dump cakes were quite popular in the 80s when so many mothers were doing it all -- climbing the professional ladder while caring for young families. Yep. And they were darned tasty, too! 6 Link to comment
youcantbeserious February 28, 2015 Share February 28, 2015 Yep. And they were darned tasty, too! Dump cake is a dessert that's made with a combination of different canned fruits baked into an instant cake mix. Does it STILL sound appealing? Yuck! I guess I never had it since my mom was a 50's housewife. 1 Link to comment
SometimesBites February 28, 2015 Share February 28, 2015 You guys are too young. Dump cakes were quite popular in the 80s when so many mothers were doing it all -- climbing the professional ladder while caring for young families. Ha...not too young here--guess I just missed "dump cakes" in the '80s, during the awful era of "I can bring home the bacon. Fry it up in a pan. And never, never, never let you forget you're a man. 'Cause I'm a WOMAN. Enjoli." Friggin sexist bullshit. :) 2 Link to comment
Kohola3 February 28, 2015 Share February 28, 2015 Yuck! There were tons of different dump cake recipes including chocolate salted caramel (not homemade caramels a la the Browns).. Don't knock it until you try it! 5 Link to comment
SometimesBites March 1, 2015 Share March 1, 2015 There were tons of different dump cake recipes including chocolate salted caramel (not homemade caramels a la the Browns).. Don't knock it until you try it! It sounds delicious. Horribly, horribly delicious. But then, I was brought up in the middle of the 20th century. ;) 1 Link to comment
JenMcSnark March 1, 2015 Share March 1, 2015 I've taken a dump cake to a potluck once or twice when I ran out of time. And everyone loved it and ate it up. I didn't call it a dump cake tho. I'm tricky like that. 7 Link to comment
SometimesBites March 1, 2015 Share March 1, 2015 I've taken a dump cake to a potluck once or twice when I ran out of time. And everyone loved it and ate it up. I didn't call it a dump cake tho. I'm tricky like that. Mock dump cake? 3 Link to comment
auntiemel August 17, 2015 Share August 17, 2015 Dump cake is basically just shortcut cobbler! :) 2 Link to comment
RedheadZombie August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 It looks like Christine retweeted a tweet by Hunter announcing he will be attending the US Air Force Academy, perhaps on a wrestling scholarship? Pretty cool. 1 Link to comment
Absolom August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 I don't think the academies do scholarships. Everyone goes tuition and room and board covered, don't they? 2 Link to comment
Bubbetv August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 My son did the USMA (West Point) after interviewing at all of them. The students draw salary while they're there, and from that they pay for laundry, uniforms, computers etc. They suggest sending the kids with $3k or so in the bank in case the paymaster or whatever gets jacked up. In year 3 there is D-Day. That is Decision Day. At that point, they can leave the school and I think there's no fees or anything for their education that far. After D-Day, they have a contract promising 5 years active duty to commence upon graduation. It takes a LOT of effort to flunk out because everyone pitches in to pull you along the rough stuff. It is a huge honor to make the cut at our Academies, and the grads are some of the most accomplished and humble people I've ever met. I'd love to hear more from Hunter as he goes through the next few years! 2 Link to comment
Kohola3 August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 I'd love to hear more from Hunter as he goes through the next few years! Now THAT would be a program I'd watch although I can't imagine that filming there is allowed. Hunter's journey would be way more interesting than his idiot parents. 4 Link to comment
Galloway Cave August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 Well, since it's been determined that Hunter is attending the Air Force Academy Prep School in Colorado, instead of the Academy itself, maybe the scholarship is for the prep school. I haven't seen Christine's tweet yet. 1 Link to comment
toodles September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 I live in Vegas and my friend had a Christine et al sighting recently. She was shopping at Target and thought she heard someone hollering for Truley. Sure enough it was Christine. She was shopping with her kids. My friend followed her for a little bit and decided she was acting stalkerish. She said she looks like she does on teevee. Nothing real interesting to add, but I think Christine is kind of a doo doo bird. If it's an act, it's wearing thin. She is a grown woman. The stupid remarks she made in front of the "investors" was just beyond idiotic. I wish I could feel sorry for her, but if she is really the unaware of the dumb things she says, then I can't even. Link to comment
SometimesBites September 9, 2015 Share September 9, 2015 I live in Vegas and my friend had a Christine et al sighting recently. She was shopping at Target and thought she heard someone hollering for Truley. Sure enough it was Christine. She was shopping with her kids. My friend followed her for a little bit and decided she was acting stalkerish. She said she looks like she does on teevee. Nothing real interesting to add, but I think Christine is kind of a doo doo bird. If it's an act, it's wearing thin. She is a grown woman. The stupid remarks she made in front of the "investors" was just beyond idiotic. I wish I could feel sorry for her, but if she is really the unaware of the dumb things she says, then I can't even. I think they like Target a lot. I was mortified when I saw recent photos of Robyn wearing a maxi dress that I own, purchased at Target. I honestly doubt I'll ever wear it again. 2 3 Link to comment
Kohola3 September 9, 2015 Share September 9, 2015 I honestly doubt I'll ever wear it again. Can't say as I blame you for that. Any association with those idiots in any universe is to be avoided at all costs. On the other hand, if you decided to wear it you could gussy it up with some nice tacky on sale "Be" joory from the closet. 3 Link to comment
AZChristian September 9, 2015 Share September 9, 2015 Target's less than 4 miles from the compound. Walmart is 11 miles. You'd have to ask Robyn how far they are from Victoria's Secret. 1 2 Link to comment
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