S04.E01: Playtime's Over

[OnceSane]

Every time Ariana gets pissed at Scheana for staying friends with Kristen despite her crazy actions, I wish Scheana would say, "You fucked her boyfriend while they were still together…then proceeded to rub her face in it by flaunting your new relationship at every opportunity. How the fuck did you think she was going to react?"

[MrsRafaelBarba]

Did Stassi's Lady in Waiting leave the show?

Don't recall seeing her in the premiere.

[FozzyBear]

Every time Ariana gets pissed at Scheana for staying friends with Kristen despite her crazy actions, I wish Scheana would say, "You fucked her boyfriend while they were still together…then proceeded to rub her face in it by flaunting your new relationship at every opportunity. How the fuck did you think she was going to react?"

Wordy McWord. Every time Arianna goes on her how mean Kristen is to her rant I just want to smack her stupid little face (her face is too small! It irritates me!) and remind her that she slept with Kristen's boyfriend, lied about it for almost a year, and called Kristen crazy all day every day. The main thing Kristen sort of did to her (beside just general bitchery, which come in! That's how people say good morning on VPR) was fly in evidence that Tom was OBVIOUSLY cheating on Airianna too. Which had the added bonus of being some of the best damn TV ever. Kristen hasn't even come close to fucking with Airianna the way she could or should. Oh yeah, AND TOM IS CHEATING! Which I think Airianna knows and is ignoring because of the show and because of being just as pathetic as any of the other girls.

[Jennifersdc]

Ariana needs to ask her BF, why he's more into Schwartz than her?

So is it wrong to hope that crazy Kristen shivs smug Arianna at some point this season? Bad Jen!

Still hopeful though - oops here comes my tackily decorated (lucky/deserved if by Scheana with gold lame and a running loop of "Shake It") handbasket to Hell...

Edited November 5, 2015 by Jennifersdc

[Watermelon]

I have to be the only one who abhors Kristen lmao.  How do you fuck JAX of all people, 10 feet from Tom, but call Ariana a c*** for ruining your relationship?  Reality is far far away from that one.

[Tara Ariano]

In case you missed it, here's the Previously.TV post on the episode!

 

Vanderpump Rules Returns With Yet Another Damn Scheana Party
It's like this girl has a birthday every year or something.

[Jennifersdc]

I have to be the only one who abhors Kristen lmao.  How do you fuck JAX of all people, 10 feet from Tom, but call Ariana a c*** for ruining your relationship?  Reality is far far away from that one.

It's not like I don't abhor Kristen any more than the rest of them. They're all so wonderfully awful (thank you Andy Cohen) - but to me she's like evil Santa/Easter Bunny all wrapped into one for my faux reality TV entertainment.

[WhosThatGirl]

I mean, none of these people are... people I like. They have all done awful things and none of them has any room to talk about how much better they are. I love tha they try so hard to make Kristen evil when they have all done pretty much along the lines of the same thing. 

[potato]

I have to be the only one who abhors Kristen lmao.  How do you fuck JAX of all people, 10 feet from Tom, but call Ariana a c*** for ruining your relationship?  Reality is far far away from that one

 

 

Kristen is definitely on no moral high ground but she has actually been put through the wringer for her actions unlike the rest of these assholes. Ariane being being unbearably smug and unlikeable has also worked to Kristen's benefit. And the fact that without her batshit ass this show would be incredibly boring. 

[Ubiquitous]

I have to be the only one who abhors Kristen lmao.  How do you fuck JAX of all people, 10 feet from Tom, but call Ariana a c*** for ruining your relationship?  Reality is far far away from that one.

Yeah, you're not the only one. I am wondering under what lame pretense she's going to get rehired by that entrepreneurial genius, Lisa Vanderbucks.

[ghoulina]

Every time Ariana gets pissed at Scheana for staying friends with Kristen despite her crazy actions, I wish Scheana would say, "You fucked her boyfriend while they were still together…then proceeded to rub her face in it by flaunting your new relationship at every opportunity. How the fuck did you think she was going to react?"

 

Yet, Kristen also fucked Jax while she was with Tom. Two wrongs don't make a right, but those two were incredibly dysfunctional and it's time to move on. Kristen should not be expected to be Arianna's best friend or anything, but going out of your way to show up places and start fights and try to make everyone uncomfortable is ridiculous and just makes you look crazy. She had that heart to heart with Sandoval, and said she was going to move past things, but she never really did. She even had a NEW boyfriend, but was still harassing her old one and trying to break his relationship up. I don't give two figs about Tom and Arianna's relationship, but Kristen is just pathetic. She has taken it way too far and if I WAS Arianna's so-called best friend, I would not be able to be chummy with the girl who is Single White Femaling her. 

[AbsoluteShower]

Well you know James is DJing at Pump now. I'm sure that's bringing in loads of cash. *trying not to laugh*

Personally I can't think of anything more ghastly than trying to enjoy a meal while some Shoreditch hipster douchebag fucks around on a turntable.

 

Sorry Peter, but hair down or hair pulled back, you still look like a greasy pirate.

 

By the looks of next week's preview, it looks like Kristen Doute, Private Eye and Seeker Of The Truth is back!  

[ghoulina]

Personally I can't think of anything more ghastly than trying to enjoy a meal while some Shoreditch hipster douchebag fucks around on a turntable.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Pump supposed to more of a nightclub/party spot than a place you go for a sit down dinner?

 

 

(Not that I'd want to hear that muppet DJ anywhere.)

Edited November 5, 2015 by ghoulina

[AbsoluteShower]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Pump supposed to more of a nightclub/party spot than a place you go for a sit down dinner?

 

 

(Not that I'd want to hear that muppet DJ anywhere.)

Speaking of Pump, I don't know if anyone has taken a look at the website, but I would direct anyone who wants a good laugh to http://pumprestaurant.com/about/, where you can find Lisa V waxing lyrical about dimly lit chandeliers, enormous lanterns and dribbling fountains...

[FozzyBear]

I have to be the only one who abhors Kristen lmao. How do you fuck JAX of all people, 10 feet from Tom, but call Ariana a c*** for ruining your relationship? Reality is far far away from that one.

Oh I think Kristen is morally bankrupt pond scum...I just think Aireanna is too. And Kristen amuses me more in her dedication to becoming an evil cartoon, so points to her. Airianna always acts like she deserve some sort of prize for...I have no idea. Not fucking Jax that we know of? Purchasing ALL the Urban Outfitters? Winning the heart of a guy with the attention span of a gnat? No. You fucked him when he was dating someone else and then proceeded to call his ex-girlfriend mentally unstable (which ok she is, but you did fuck him) rather than just own up to your own drunken Vegas mess. You get no moral high ground cookie from me!

[ScoobieDoobs]

I think I'm the only one who wants Stassi on the show. I would never want to hang out with her or anything but she's a great reality tv asshole and the show isn't the same without her, at least to me.

 

Nah, for snark value alone, I'll take her.  I'm puzzled how they'll fit her in when she's always whining about how "above" she is all of those ass-clowns.  Maybe we here are above them.  Stassi ain't.

 

Man, when Jax said "Jax" was his "model" name, now that gave me a good belly laugh.  More like his hooker/escort name.  I'm just waiting for when his profile is gonna turn up on some hooker site.  He still lives in that awful shithole?  Guess the Bravo dough ain't rolling in.  Maybe he'll be hooking up with Satan Andy (again/more).

Edited November 5, 2015 by ScoobieDoobs

[metalchik]

God I love this board! lol

[OtterReality]

Did Tom and Ariana finally admit they did cheat while he was still with Kristin? How did I miss that?

[FozzyBear]

Did Tom and Ariana finally admit they did cheat while he was still with Kristin? How did I miss that?

Possibly because Tom and Ariana literally changed their story every time they were pressed about it? It was one of my favorite running jokes last season. They went from having never even been alone together...to ok we hung out in Vegas...to Tom might have hugged Arianna...to he kissed her on the cheek...to ok maybe it was a real kiss...to ok we fucked. Hilarious. I don't think they actually confirmed the fucking until the reunion though. During the season finale they confirmed "hooking up" or some such Jr. High semantics and then at the reunion it was "Yeah ok we fucked while Tom was with Kristen, but we're still totally the golden couple right?" No. No you are not. And sir, I knew Dylan and Kelly. Dylan and Kelly were my friends. You are no Dylan and Kelly!

[ScoobieDoobs]

Middle of the night insomnia again Scoobs?

Or do you get up early to work out and get ready for work and shame the rest of us?

;)

 

Nope, I'm in LA this week for work.  Lord help me, I didn't think it would happen.  I really really didn't.  But I'm hopelessly hooked on this show again.  Gah!  I'm almost (but not quite) tempted to go by SUR, just to see if Jax is there with his new needle nose or mopey Ariana (um, actually, I don't care about seeing her) or maybe even Scheana with a crimpy 'do.  I've been to all of Lisa's places (SUR, Pump & Villa Bianca) & they all have meh over-priced food/drinks.  And I had to drag my LA friends to them with me cuz they didn't wanna be seen in any of those joints.  So if I go to SUR, I'll go alone.  Hmmmm, will Jax hit on me if I see him at the bar?  I know, not exactly an ego-booster cuz he'll be with anything that moves, but at least it would confirm the bisexual thing so many of us suspect.

 

Anyone in for the Friday thing?  Did anyone watch  Apres Ski?  It looks absolutely awful.  Sorry, Bravo.  I'm in for VR & then out quick when it's over.  But, of course I can watch VR anytime they put it on -- like 50 million times, just cuz -- well, I can't stop watching these ass-clowns.

Edited November 5, 2015 by ScoobieDoobs

[WhosThatGirl]

IMy whole thing with Ararnia is that she seems very aware of the cameras. If you know what I mean. I mean, they probably all are, but she seems very aware. Everything about her just seems very fake. I could never like her. She's also a pathological liar, like pretty much all of these people. Except for Katie. 

[OnceSane]

Possibly because Tom and Ariana literally changed their story every time they were pressed about it? It was one of my favorite running jokes last season. They went from having never even been alone together...to ok we hung out in Vegas...to Tom might have hugged Arianna...to he kissed her on the cheek...to ok maybe it was a real kiss...to ok we fucked. Hilarious. I don't think they actually confirmed the fucking until the reunion though. During the season finale they confirmed "hooking up" or some such Jr. High semantics and then at the reunion it was "Yeah ok we fucked while Tom was with Kristen, but we're still totally the golden couple right?" No. No you are not. And sir, I knew Dylan and Kelly. Dylan and Kelly were my friends. You are no Dylan and Kelly!

Dylan and Kelly??!!?? We can no longer be friends. Dylan & Brenda 4 EVAH!!!!

Anyhoodle, I don't think Kristen or Arianna are above the other in the mistakes department. Kristen should have left the crazy highway at least seven exits before she did, but Arianna shouldn't have fucked her boyfriend. And I don't believe Scheana and Arianna were besties before the show, so I don't blame Scheana for being friendly to Kristen…though she should at least keep her at more of a distance.

[Bossa Nova]

 

Nope, I'm in LA this week for work.  Lord help me, I didn't think it would happen.  I really really didn't.  But I'm hopelessly hooked on this show again.  Gah!  I'm almost (but not quite) tempted to go by SUR, just to see if Jax is there with his new needle nose or mopey Ariana (um, actually, I don't care about seeing her) or maybe even Scheana with a crimpy 'do.  I've been to all of Lisa's places (SUR, Pump & Villa Bianca) & they all have meh over-priced food.  And I had to drag my LA friends to them with me cuz they didn't wanna be seen in any of those joints.  So if I go to SUR, I'll go alone.  Hmmmm, will Jax hit on me if I see him at the bar?  I know, not exactly an ego-booster cuz he'll be with anything that moves, but at least it would confirm the bisexual thing so many of us suspect.

 

 

Yes ! Do check out SUR and report back for the rest of us ! Love the way you  let us know about Sonja's Manhattan townhouse, windows being wide open and all.

 

Can't recall if it was you or some others on these boards (I think its was on RH of Bev Hills forum), said that Villa Blanca was dumpy - starting to show signs of wear and tear and poor upkeep like stained menus and ripped seat cushions, and like you said, the food was mediocre.

 

Glad you were not up in the middle of the night like me (I am northeast).

 

Last question...do these VR cast members really work at SUR?

Edited November 5, 2015 by Bossa Nova

[ScoobieDoobs]

The last time I was there, Peter was there.  The gal I was with chatted him up for a bit.  He looked pretty hot actually, if a bit greasy (it's the hair, the hair).  She didn't care for his Ray Romano voice either, but he was friendly & very sweet.  Saw nobody else from show, except that one who hung with Stassi last season.  Forgot her name.  Pretty, but forgettable.  Peter said Tom was supposed to show up later.  I made my friend stay for a really bleh meal (she was not happy) cuz I (hiding head in embarrassment) wanted to see him, but he never showed.

 

Villa Bianca surprised me that it didn't look nearly as nice as I thought it would.  It looks good on BH.  Not so much in person.  Pump looks nice, but it's smaller than I thought it would be.  Drinks are on the pricey side & it was empty when I was there.  Meh to all of Lisa's places.  There are great restaurants in LA.  I don't especially wanna waste time and/or dough in any of Lisa's joints.

 

Hey, what happened to Vail?  It's like she never existed.  Last I heard, she was dating (er, bearding for) Chris Pine.

[AbsoluteShower]

 

Hey, what happened to Vail?  It's like she never existed.  Last I heard, she was dating (er, bearding for) Chris Pine.

She wouldn't bang Jax, so presumably was surplus to requirements. Luckily for the show, the newest chucklefuck slash famewhore (Lala?) seems to have no such qualms (I'm guessing she is currently on an industrial-sized dose of antibiotics).

[ghoulina]

IMy whole thing with Ararnia is that she seems very aware of the cameras. If you know what I mean. I mean, they probably all are, but she seems very aware. Everything about her just seems very fake.

 

That's my take on her. I know reality shows are all scripted and fake to a degree, but this girl just comes off utterly disingenuous to me. I think she tries to control herself at all times to come across in just a certain way. Borrrrring. 

[ihartcoffee]

I bought the song lol. I love it.

I'm so over Ariana and her smugness. I want her and FI Tom to break up so we can see that fallout.

Also I can't help it, I like Peter.

I love the intro too! One of the few I will watch if dvring it.

I agree on Araina's smugness. Kristen brings the crazy, she's staying. Her hounding Sheana to not be friends with Kristen was so high school.

James is an ugly drunk. Felt bad for him though when Jax instantly ratted him out.

[JenE4]

I mean, none of these people are... people I like. They have all done awful things and none of them has any room to talk about how much better they are. I love tha they try so hard to make Kristen evil when they have all done pretty much along the lines of the same thing.

That is what makes this show so good. Every single one of these people have lied and cheated. Yet, they're all so damn incredulous that (fill-in the blank) is the truly evil liar and cheater. There's no self-reflection whatsoever. But at the same time, they're not wrong about what they're saying about the other person. So someone like Kristin is so right and so wrong at the same time. And I will never stop laughing when, once again, the Toms are shocked that Jax betrayed their trust and is spreading lies or exaggerated truths just to be in the middle of the drama or deflect drama off of himself. Really, guys? But then they'll forgive him again because they're bros and then 2 days later, they've been Jaxed again! That cracked me up this episode, with James saying, Jax, don't tell Kristin...and within 30 seconds Jax is in the alley telling Kristin!

Edited November 6, 2015 by JenE4

[bichonblitz]

There really is no difference between Ariana and Kristen as far as morals and character go,  except Ariana is a liar and a bitch, where as Kristen is a liar, a bitch and BATSHIT CRAZY!

[ghoulina]

And Ariana has cleaner hair.

[heatherchandler]

Ok, so Katie is definitely on Adderall.  I've done my "research" on it (cough) and there is a specific tell-tale sign in the way people speak.  Almost like you talk over yourself.

She did it in her talking head.  Also, Stassi confirmed on Brandi Glanville's podcast that "most" of the staff takes it; she actually even admitted to taking it herself.

 

I was really annoyed by Ken, even more than usual.  It's a party, everyone is having fun, Tom comes up to say hello and he like grabs him and tells him to respect his wife.  What a FREAK!  He's such a disgusting old man. 

[ghoulina]

Yea, I did not care for Ken in that moment. I often wonder if he feels emasculated by Lisa. Like they started their businesses together, but now SHE'S the star, and she calls all the shots. So he takes whatever opportunity he can to try and remind people he's a strong man. Or maybe not. Maybe he's just an ass.

[JenE4]

I was really annoyed by Ken, even more than usual. It's a party, everyone is having fun, Tom comes up to say hello and he like grabs him and tells him to respect his wife. What a FREAK! He's such a disgusting old man.

That just made me feel sorry for Ken--this little old man trying to be tough by grabbing Sandoval by the lapels and threatening him. Meanwhile Tom is crouching down on his roller skates to be able to look this little frail old man in the eyes. Really, Ken? The kid's on roller skates and you still wouldn't be able to knock him down--not very threatening.

[methodwriter85]

Ok, so Katie is definitely on Adderall.  I've done my "research" on it (cough) and there is a specific tell-tale sign in the way people speak.  Almost like you talk over yourself.

Wouldn't Katie be rail-thin though? Adderall kills your appetite.

 

Did anyone else think it was funny that Tom's "perm" had to be the most gentle perm I've ever seen in my life? There was barely any curling there. I did enjoy the Tom's 70's outfit. I did appreciate Kate's attempt at a Clueless outfit, although she really looked more like the Craft, as someone upthread said.

[yourmomiseasy]

Naw, for The Craft you need a black watch tartan skirt, a white tee or button down, and a black cardi or vest.  The yellow and black skirt, white knee socks, and fuzzy white sweater were more Clueless due to color scheme and fuzzy sweater.  The Craft girls outfits were dark overall (in color and mood) and based on school uniforms, The Clueless kids were more light and silly and Cher's icon plaid skirt outfit was yellow and black like Katie's skirt and worn with white knee socks.  My friend and I dressed up like the girls from The Craft when we went to see it.  For some reason it seemed hilarious at the time.  I went with a  black vest and button down because ridiculously enough, I already had them.

 

Everyone has a topic they know a lot about.  For Scheana it's fame whoring.  For Jax it's  treating STDs.  For James it's drunk DJing.  For Kristin it's skulking in alleys.  Unfortunately, for me it's plaid miniskirts from the 90s.

Edited November 6, 2015 by yourmomiseasy

[Jennifersdc]

 

Did anyone else think it was funny that Tom's "perm" had to be the most gentle perm I've ever seen in my life? There was barely any curling there.

Thank you! Me too! I was thinking more along the lines of Bradley Cooper in American Hustle. WTF was that? -I couldn't tell the difference between "before and after".

 

Everyone has a topic they know a lot about.  For Scheana it's fame whoring.  For Jax it's  treating STDs.  For James it's drunk DJing.  For Kristin it's skulking in alleys.  Unfortunately, for me it's plaid miniskirts from the 90s.

No shame here - I love my plaid miniskirts from the 90's. Too bad they don't fit as well anymore.

[methodwriter85]

Hmm. Nice.

 

I do think that Katie did a generally good job of recreating a 90's look, especially with that choker. All she was missing was a butterfly barrette holding back one small side of her hair. (I'm a guy, but I had sisters, and I watched a LOT of mid-90's Real World.)

 

Pete seemed tailor made for heavy metal 80's look. Kind of a shame- he should have been in that era. It really suited him. I'm guessing he's about 40 so he would have probably been in junior high then.

Edited November 7, 2015 by methodwriter85

[goofygirl]

Hate to show my age here but guess what? We had plaid miniskirts in the 70's too! And I LURVED mine!

[Rottiemommie]

Ok, so Katie is definitely on Adderall.  I've done my "research" on it (cough) and there is a specific tell-tale sign in the way people speak.  Almost like you talk over yourself.

She did it in her talking head.  Also, Stassi confirmed on Brandi Glanville's podcast that "most" of the staff takes it; she actually even admitted to taking it herself.

 

I'm not so convinced.  Adderall causes many people to lose weight.  Some people try convince their doctor they have A.D.D. just to get Adderall for weight loss.  I work for a psychiatrist and we have a good number of patients on this type of medication.  Each one has to be weighed and their blood pressure checked at each visit.  Some posters above thought it looked like Katie had gained some weight.  I thought so too.  This, while not definitely, is the one reason I would not think she takes Adderall.  I did not notice any other signs of her either being on a stimulant or having ADD, and like I said above, I deal with these meds every day.

 

A person who seems like they are "talking above themselves" is more likely to be in a manic state from Bipolar Disorder, although again I see no signs of anything with Katie except she has possibly grown a set of balls and is finally standing up for herself.

[FozzyBear]

I'm not so convinced. Adderall causes many people to lose weight. Some people try convince their doctor they have A.D.D. just to get Adderall for weight loss. I work for a psychiatrist and we have a good number of patients on this type of medication. Each one has to be weighed and their blood pressure checked at each visit. Some posters above thought it looked like Katie had gained some weight. I thought so too. This, while not definitely, is the one reason I would not think she takes Adderall. I did not notice any other signs of her either being on a stimulant or having ADD, and like I said above, I deal with these meds every day.

A person who seems like they are "talking above themselves" is more likely to be in a manic state from Bipolar Disorder, although again I see no signs of anything with Katie except she has possibly grown a set of balls and is finally standing up for herself.

So I've always wondered if Katie is just a little hard of hearing. She's always had an odd volume modulation in interviews, like she can't hear herself. It reminds me of how people who have very slight hearing problems talk loud on the phone.

[jaync]

I'd totally watch a porno starring Chip Harley and Cigarette Sally.

[Ubiquitous]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Pump supposed to more of a nightclub/party spot than a place you go for a sit down dinner?

(Not that I'd want to hear that muppet DJ anywhere.)

 I thought DJ Muppet Baby DJ'd at SUR (gawd, I hate[\b] that place's name, now that I know what it means!).

Yea, I did not care for Ken in that moment. I often wonder if he feels emasculated by Lisa. Like they started their businesses together, but now SHE'S the star, and she calls all the shots. So he takes whatever opportunity he can to try and remind people he's a strong man. Or maybe not. Maybe he's just an ass.

Now that you mention it, his "tough talk" to Flatiron Tom was bizarre.

It's funny that the 1990's were my post-college years but I do not really remember anything memorable about the decade besides grunge.

[Shelby]

How did Bravo select such an unwatchable, awful host for the Aftershow? I got through about 6 minutes of it and then deleted it, and the Season Pass, from my TiVo.

The Aftershow is a dud. I don't think anybody wants to see any of these people just sitting around talking about themselves.

Edited November 9, 2015 by Shelby

[Long Spot]

How did Bravo select such an unwatchable, awful host for the Aftershow? I got through about 6 minutes of it and then deleted it, and the Season Pass, from my TiVo.

 

Could not agree more.  Blech.  No rapport with anyone, odd questions, occasionally almost an attactative (I think I just made up a word!) style...it was just...WEIRD.

 

I'm not sure I can stick with the show through the whole season.  Jax just tires me at this point.  His schtick is old and tired, Scheana's Kardashian-esque speech style/pattern drives me bat-shit, and I have zero interest in anything Kristin, unless she were to get hit by a bus.  The only thing amusing about James is the nick-name you guys have given him.  Muppet!  HA!

 

Sadly my husband is addicted (not even kidding) so it's going to be on the tube here in the Diddy household.  

 

Regarding others comments about Lisa's restaurant's food and cleanliness etc., if you are looking for a good giggle, check out their Yelp reviews.  SUR's are classic.  All the disappointed reviews have certain complaints in common (nasty bathrooms, poor service, bland food) and manager Nathalie comments on most.  "That doesn't sound like our usual way of doing things...what date were you in?".  Honey, when more than half of your reviews mention the same things, it DOES sound like your normal way of doing things.  And insinuating that someone might be making up a visit makes you look uninterested in fixing anything.  She even pulls that on reviews that have confirmed "check in".

 

It's comedy gold as far as reading goes.  Highly recommend. 

[Ubiquitous]

How did Bravo select such an unwatchable, awful host for the Aftershow? I got through about 6 minutes of it and then deleted it, and the Season Pass, from my TiVo.

The Aftershow is a dud. I don't think anybody wants to see any of these people just sitting around talking about themselves.

I think I caught part of a rerun by accident. Aren't the hosts from the Bravo show with people watching TV on their couch?

[bblancobrnx]

Am I the only one, that loves the show's intro?

Welcome back show.

No you are not! I do miss the bottle Flat Iron Tom flipped in the season 1 and 2 intros that very obviously fell to the floor right after the cut away, but I have a big grin whenever I see the intro.

On WWHL voters chose his original nose and I have to agree. I've never found Jax attractive, but his first nose was definitely preferable. After all these surgeries it almost looks, to me, like the left side is collapsing a bit.

Uhhhhh, cocaine is a helluva drug. Me think he has dissolved so much cartilage that his nose goes wonky and then he needs a repair. Rinse. Repeat. I forsee a nose job every couple years in his future.

I finally just watched the first episode and I am totally embarrassed at how excited I am that this mess is back. I actually watched the first 3 seasons in their entirety on Hulu before watching this episode (which is why i didn't see it until today) and I just can't believe how great it is. This mess really is responsible for keeping me warm all winter long. Viewing would not be the same without all of you in this forum. I love you all long time

Edited November 9, 2015 by bblancobrnx

[ivygirl]

I think I caught part of a rerun by accident. Aren't the hosts from the Bravo show with people watching TV on their couch?

Yup, it's Julie and Brandy* from the People's Couch. I thought the aftershow was OK. I mean, it's not like I learned any amazing revelations, but it was kind of entertaining. 

 

 

* I had to look that up

[KungFuBunny]

The surgeon didn't remove cartilage from behind Jax's ear to fix his nose.

 

That off kilter Harry Potter Lightning Bolt scar was where they removed part of Jax's dead brain to caulk up the cocaine holes in his nose

 

Why is Jax's face always so Greeeeee-zee???????

 

Those chunky sweaters must have oil slicks around the neck...ewwwww

[yourmomiseasy]

I'm hoping that Brandy and Julie on the aftershow were just a little nervous and get settled in.  They are actually funny on The People's Couch and I was really excited to see they were hosting, but the premiere episode fell flat IMO.  

[bblancobrnx]

I am just now re watching this episode and I think it is hilarious the change we see in Arianna's attitude about Kristen. I guess she no longer is able to just pretend kristen doesn't bother her. Either that or TPTB are trying to make it a recurring storyline again and have told her to complain incessantly about it. I did not realize how much I really did not like ariana until I watched all of the prior episodes back to back and started realizing every time she was on screen that I was annoyed

Did Stassi's Lady in Waiting leave the show?

Don't recall seeing her in the premiere.

Oh she is there. Right behind Arianna in the intro Edited November 10, 2015 by bblancobrnx