Episode Discussion: TFGH

[hypnotoad]

 

Poor Sonny he had no choice but to kill that evil drunken AJ .he was tricked into it, and bad Morgan picked on him. I can't. I just can't.

 

This scene was just awful. Did Sonny really say Connie was his life? How did Morgan even listen to that line and not laugh and laugh.

 

I don't know what the hell Michelle Stafford was doing in those scenes, but make it stop. Someone make her stop. Please?!?

 

 

I don't think she had it in mind that Sonny would become the nexus around which everything in Port Charles would revolve

 

I'm positive of this. I don't even know why anyone would push Sonny as a leading man. It's mind boggling. Simply mind boggling. And yet? That's exactly how this show has rolled for what seems like 100 years. Just so much dislike for this character. Those scenes with Morgan were Sonny at his most despicable.

[boes]

Did Morgan ask his dear old dad why exactly he felt the need to screw the women he says he "HATES MORE THAN I EVER HATED ANYONE"  in the Quartermaine Crypt during those increasingly depressing scenes on Friday where Morgan's tiny but previously sort-of adorable brain dried up and died?  Because I'd like to know why now that's no big deal to Morgan, that now he's fine with letting his dad kill Ava.  Or does that suddenly not matter because she killed Connie and unfortunately DID NOT kill Dullivia.

Edited November 2, 2014 by boes

[twoods]

I grinned like an idiot when Franco said "hell no." I have been waiting for this reveal in forever and Carly is dumb to cheat on a serial killer with the moobster grease monkey. Let the shit hit the fan- this show has been so boring lately.

Nina is a sick freak.

Edited November 2, 2014 by twoods

[P3pp3rb1rd]

Seeing Carly in a full white bridal gown brought a broad guffaw from me. It didn't look real--reminded me of those competitive toilet paper gowns created at wedding showers. I wondered if we might see a food fight later on at the reception, or perhaps the shocking stark white gown will be covered with someone's blood eventually--Franco's?

 

Surely Heather and that white gown have a destined meeting place at some point--she hates Carly and would love to stain it red for her.

[sunnyface]

Because I'd like to know why now that's no big deal to Morgan, that now he's fine with letting his dad kill Ava.

 

 

Roof over the head and food in the belly.  His gig as a 'supervisor' during the Brownstone renovation seems to be over and his brother probably isn't going to be too enamored with him.  For pretty, I'll take Nathan - any day of the week - over this actor who seems to think that moving his hands conveys some type of emotion and throwing snarky one-liners makes him some cool type of young person.  Having been saddled with Kiki hasn't done this actor any favors.  Furthermore, there's no type of quarantine that this character could undergo that would shred the scourge of his dad - Sonny Corinthos [still no one has been able to provide a link to MB renewing his contract].  The only pity that I would begin to have for this character would begin if he removes his father from Port Charles.  He is a prettier face to look at the Spinelli - if he takes up with Jakeson.

 

But any issues of watching the character of the spoiled brat of Sonny Corinthos pales in comparison to the horror at the prospect of enduring 17 more months of the character Nina and the actress who portrays her.  Yikes. Yikes. 

Edited November 2, 2014 by sunnyface

[Chairperson Meow]

Bryan Craig would have been the bestest MyKill to MyKill them all. He looks like Alan! Dammit!

Chad, you haz one job. Pretend you're acting against SK. Text him. Call him. And do not sad panda this shit. Be a Quartermaine.

[boes]

But any issues of watching the character of the spoiled brat of Sonny Corinthos pales in comparison to the horror at the prospect of enduring 17 more months of the character Nina and the actress who portrays her.  Yikes. Yikes. 

 

You'll get no argument from me on that.  There is now and has never been a worse actress anywhere.  The caliber of cluelessness that is the Stafford should only be seen in a snarky movie, portrayed by Parker Posey, at which we could all laugh and say how unrealistic it is.  

But no, here she is.....

[KerleyQ]

MSt is really awful.  Just...awful.  That "Ava. Ava. Ava."  So bad.  Sonny in full stutterbarking jazzhands glory levels of bad.  

 

PS please get a new place.

 

 

I'd advise burning the couch, but I can't imagine what those fumes would put out into the world. 

 

Between Lucky umpteen times, Nik, Ric, Jason, AJ, Ric again, Nik again and now possibly Jason again, although she doesn't know it yet, far be it for me to slut-shame and while Liz is no Sonny when it comes to booty calls, where relationships are concerned, to paraphrase a line from What's Happening Now, "[Liz] goes through men faster than 'Ms. Pac-Man.'"

 

 

Well, yeah, if Ms. Pac-Man was being played by a toddler who's also eating an ice cream cone and trying to tell Daddy about the doggy he saw in the park today.   Over the past decade, Liz has been single FAR more often than she's been with a man.  She's practically celibate by soap standards.  

 

Is Lucas Carly's maid of honor?  I want to like Lucas, but between his closeness to Carly and his choice in men?  It's hard.  Real hard. 

[OnceSane]

I think Bobbie is Carly's matron of honor. Lucas just walked her down the aisle.

[Tiger]

You'll get no argument from me on that. There is now and has never been a worse actress anywhere. The caliber of cluelessness that is the Stafford should only be seen in a snarky movie, portrayed by Parker Posey, at which we could all laugh and say how unrealistic it is.

But no, here she is.....

I think Nina could actually be an entertaining character in the hands of an even half-decent actress. At the end of Thursday's show, when Nina was using her inside voice, not repeating, and not waving her arms around wildly, she was actually creepy. But then to kick off Friday MSt was back to all her glory.

The repeati ng of "eh-VAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH" on Fri was the worst, just the worst, the absolutely the worst; definitely the worst. Definitely.

ETA: and could someone please find her a shirt that fits?!? She keeps wearing these shirts that expose her midriff whenever she leans over or raises her arms.

Edited November 2, 2014 by Tiger

[dubbel zout]

isn't it a teeny bit creepy that Liz is going to be lusting over/possibly bedding a guy who shares her dead son's name?

 

"Jake" isn't that uncommon a name. And it's not as if Liz is the only one drawn to Jakson. Both Carly and Michael have felt comfortable enough with him to gas on and on.

[Aprilshowers]

 

The repeati ng of "eh-VAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH" on Fri was the worst, just the worst, the absolutely the worst; definitely the worst. Definitely.

 

 

Yes it was, you have to wonder directing choice? Actor choice? all the above. It was possibly some of the worst acting I'd ever seen. Have no idea why I thought MSt could act on Y&R. Clearly terrible doesn't describe it.

[ch1]

Did Morgan ask his dear old dad why exactly he felt the need to screw the women he says he "HATES MORE THAN I EVER HATED ANYONE"  in the Quartermaine Crypt during those increasingly depressing scenes on Friday where Morgan's tiny but previously sort-of adorable brain dried up and died?  Because I'd like to know why now that's no big deal to Morgan, that now he's fine with letting his dad kill Ava.  Or does that suddenly not matter because she killed Connie and unfortunately DID NOT kill Dullivia.

 

 

And how is Morgan not more horrified by the crypt sex?  Sonny screwed someone on the grave of the guy he murdered.  I mean Sonny is so many levels of f'd up and Morgan didn't call him on it.

[dubbel zout]

Because Sonny has had to SUFFER ALONE with all of his guilt. Why doesn't anyone understand?!

 

I don't think there's a sarcasm font strong enough for GH.

[KerleyQ]

I was so utterly disappointed by Morgan buying Sonny's shit and deciding that poor Sonny has suffered so much.  I so want tomorrow to reveal that he was getting his payback on Sonny.  "Yes, of course I'll keep your secret.  There, there, father, you poor misunderstood thing."  Then he hightails it over to the wedding and busts in and beats Franco to the punch of spilling all to Michael (and the rest of the assembled crowd).  

 

On an unrelated note, while I do really like this Joss actress (she kicked ass through all of Friday's episode), Ron really needs to drop the whole corn thing.  It is so gross that he's taken some message board snark on a previous young actress and incorporated it into a running gag with a new actress bringing that snark to life.  He's such a child.  I mean, whenever Spencer is eventually aged up, will he have the new actor jokingly speak in a put on lisp several times a year for shits and giggles?  Not to mention, Ron never knows when enough is enough.  He couldn't just do the gag one time on one Halloween.  He has to go overboard and then overboard some more.  He's such an ass. 

[NutmegsDad]

*sigh* Warm up the launch for the Barge. November looks like "It's Always Sonny in Port Charles".

 

Meanwhile, call up Hardwick and get the Death Couch ready for Maura West. You will be missed.

 

They could bring Kelly Sullivan back as Kannie alive and Batshit-Even-By-Nina-Standards Crazy, declared she faked her own death and that she had someone else shoot at Olivia, and Sonny wouldn't have any sympathy for Ava.

 

I've a feeling this was the fork in the road if MB didn't sign, and we'd be seeing Sonny go bye bye while Franco married Carly.

[Tiger]

Yes it was, you have to wonder directing choice? Actor choice? all the above. It was possibly some of the worst acting I'd ever seen. Have no idea why I thought MSt could act on Y&R. Clearly terrible doesn't describe it.

I remember being horrified by Natalia Livingston sucking up all the air in a room before racing through her lines, Jacob Young shouting all of his lines, and Angel Boris giving a monotone reading of everything.

But all three of them, on their respective worst days, are Oscar worthy in comparison to Michelle Stafford.

[nilyank]

 

"Jake" isn't that uncommon a name. And it's not as if Liz is the only one drawn to Jakson. Both Carly and Michael have felt comfortable enough with him to gas on and on.

It could be worse. She could have called him Jason. An amnesiac with similar post brain surgeries, similar blue eyes, similar build, similar height, similar hair, similar other body parts not including his new face and similar taste in monochromatic clothing as Jason.

[hypnotoad]

 

I want to like Lucas, but between his closeness to Carly and his choice in men?  It's hard.  Real hard.

 

Well to be fair about his choice in men - who else is there? He's with the best of the available gay guys in town, because Felix? Just no (or as the Nina would say: 'no.no.no. Nah. Nope. No. No. Noooooo!' as she wildly waves her hands for no apparent reason).

 

 

But all three of them, on their respective worst days, are Oscar worthy in comparison to Michelle Stafford.

 

Sigh. Sad, but very true. Michelle Stafford single-handedly drove me from Y&R. She's damn close to  doing the same for me and GH.

 

 

I do really like this Joss actress (she kicked ass through all of Friday's episode)

 

The look on her face when Franco said hell no was absolutely perfect. She cracked me up. I mean everyone attending this fiasco of a wedding did a good job with reaction shots, but  Joss especially killed me.

[HeatLifer]

It could be worse. She could have called him Jason. An amnesiac with similar post brain surgeries, similar blue eyes, similar build, similar height, similar hair, similar other body parts not including his new face and similar taste in monochromatic clothing as Jason.

If Liz screws him and still doesn't know it's Jason, Ima be like, "Say whaaaa?"

[ch1]

Joss' reaction was really the only reason I didn't ff all they way through that scene.  That was pretty damn funny.

 

Because Sonny has had to SUFFER ALONE with all of his guilt. Why doesn't anyone understand?!

 

 

Yeah, poor poor Sonny.  At least he had the vaginas of Carly, Olivia and Ava to help him forget.

[DollEyes]

Then again, if Dante's career can survive being Sonny's offspring, Nathan can survive Nina and Liesl.

 

  That's the problem. Nathan shouldn't have to "survive" them. At least Dante only has Sonny's crazy to worry about; Nathan, otoh, has Nina, Liesl and Magda. Put Britt in the mix and they're like the Four Horsewomen of the Apocalypse where Nathan's career is concerned.

 

    However, not even Nina and Company's baby-napping shenanigans are as rage-inducing as all things Cranco-wedding related. Usually I don't mind when Carly's called "a lying, cheating whore" because she's not only all of the above, those are the nicest words for her; it's the SERIAL KILLER source who pisses me off. As heinous as the Slagbeast is, even she doesn't have as much blood on her hands as Franco does, tumor or not. The only times last week that I found Franco even remotely likable were his scenes with Scotty and his blasé attitude towards Shawn, aka "The Worst Hitman Ever." Franco's springing Heather was yet another shitty idea-like Franco has any other kind. That it lead to Franco's getting the drop on Shawn when Heather tied up Jordan was pure dumb luck on his part. Regarding Morgan, I wasn't excited about his reading Sonny for filth in Thrusday's episode because I knew he would do a 360 the next day, which he not only did perfectly, he even managed to throw Ava under the bus, not to mention risking the baby that might be his after all. Ava's not innocent, to say the least, but Morgan's ultimately betraying her for Sonny proves just how spineless he is where Sonny's concerned. It also proves that Morgan's treating the woman he claims to love like shit and endangering her life while she's in labor is hereditary. Of course, like Franco, Sonny sees himself as the victim in all this and Morgan's enabling his crazy just like Heather's done for Franco. Who cares about doing the right thing, clearing an innocent man's name, seeing justice done or giving the victim's family closure? Sonny and Franco's "man"-pains come first. They're the ones who have suffered the most. They're the ones who've been hurt, betrayed and treated like shit for months, not Michael or Monica, who lost a father and a son when AJ died-or rather, when Sonny killed him at Ava's behest to cover her own ass. Now that MB has renewed his contract-Heaven help us-Ron won't give Sonny the punishment he really deserves (capture, torture, imprisonment, poverty, public shaming, shunning and a slow, painful death), but from now on, any victory Sonny has must come with a cost and the price should be Michael. Since Sonny took Michael from the Quartermaines, it's only fair that they take him back and possibly Jake-son too, which might redeem him in my eyes. Michael should cut Sonny and Carly out of his life like they cut AJ out of his. Michael's rage should be Biblical, the putdowns should be brutal and the damage should be permanent and catastrophic. No one who had a hand in betraying Michael should be spared. The only people on Carly's side of the family who haven't betrayed Michael are Bobbie, Lucas and Joss. Speaking of Joss, if Carly's involvement with, exposing Joss to and almost marrying a SERIAL KILLER aren't grounds for Jax to fight for full and permanent custody, I don't know what is.

 

  Lest anyone think that I've forgotten Carly, aka the "LCW" (Lying Cheating Whore), I haven't, to put it mildly. Carly may not technically have as much blood on her hands as Sonny and Franco, she let the whole town in general and the Qs in particular, especially Michael, believe that AJ had blood on his hands for months, except for the aforementioned Sonny and Franco, who knew the truth but refused to tell it for their own fucked-up reasons. Meanwhile, Carly kept the truth from Michael for the same reason that Sonny, Kiki and Morgan did-out of "love," which is the most fucked-up reason of all. I've always believed that 3 of the most important parts of love are honesty, trust and respect. By lying to Michael for months, Carly, Sonny, etc. showed that they don't have enough respect for Michael to trust him with the truth, which proves that the only things that they deserve from Michael are his hate, his wrath and his absence.  

 

 

I want to like Lucas, but between his closeness with Carly and his taste in men? It's hard. real hard.

 

  Re Lucas' relationship with Carly, hopefully when the truth comes out, he'll be at the very least, deeply disappointed in her. As for Lucas' taste in men, it's certainly way better than Carly's,which isn't that hard to do.

Edited November 3, 2014 by DollEyes

[hypnotoad]

 

Usually I don't mind when Carly's called "a lying, cheating whore" because she's not only all of the above, those are the nicest words for her; it's the SERIAL KILLER source who pisses me off. As heinous as the Slagbeast is, even she doesn't have as much blood on her hands as Franco does, tumor or not.

 

Exactly. While I will never use the word whore to describe any character because the constant use of that word on soaps irritates me, I agree with the rest completely. I don't mind Carly getting called out at all, she deserves it and a lot more. Though I can't even figure out why she's marrying this idiot when she's still sleeping with the other greasier idiot.

 

My issue with the entire Carly/SERIAL KILLER coupledom is that as awful as Carly is in general, I don't believe she'd hook up with the man who caused so much pain for her favorite son. I don't believe that at a very basic level so the rest of the nonsense is just added on foolishness.

 

I want Monica or Michael or anyone else on the show to be the one to put Carly firmly in her place. Certainly she has cheated on the SERIAL KILLER, but that doesn't mean I think he has some kind of moral standing to be preachy about anything. I mean anything. I don't want the SERIAL KILLER to be the one to blow Carly and Sonny's cover up into the open. I just don't.

 

Also, I'm very worried that Sonny is going to save Ava from The Nina and that will somehow absolve him of killing AJ. Saving Ava will be his version of a brain tumor.

[Cobalt Stargazer]

Also, I'm very worried that Sonny is going to save Ava from The Nina and that will somehow absolve him of killing AJ. Saving Ava will be his version of a brain tumor.

 

Do what I've been doing, hypnotoad. Imagine The Nina devouring Sonny from the toes on up. While he's still alive.

Edited November 2, 2014 by Cobalt Stargazer

[tvgoddess]

 

Do what I've been doing, hypnotoad. Imagine The Nina devouring Sonny from the toes on up. While he's still alive.

 

And then a shot kills her.

[Cobalt Stargazer]

Which meant Shawn was aiming at the ceiling fan.

[Chairperson Meow]

No! I'll say it twice no!

Saving Ava from Nina will not be Sonny's Sunday School answer to murdering AJ. Quote Todd Manning "Hell no." Shit, for putting AJ through hell, murdering him, then hurting Monica and Micheal- they (Morgan, Ava, and Sonny) deserve to lose the Child of Satan to Nina. For stealing Micheal from AJ, for stealing Jason from the Quartermaines, for taking Jason away from Danny and Sam.......Sonny deserves this shit. And guess what, Morgan? You ride with Daddy, you die with Daddy. Ask Micheal about that. Ask your mom, LCW (best new nickname since Rafe got called the Keibler Meth Elf). And Ava, this has been in the cards for you...... for some time now.

Dude, all this bullshit over a baby that was concieved on the back of a dead man? It's bound to be evil. Give it to Nina and run or let it kill you with fire.

[P3pp3rb1rd]

I wonder if Heather is Franco's show-and-tell partner in this dog-and-pony show of a wedding...is she running the video projector of Carly and Sonny in flagrante delicto? Moaning and groaning? I thought that before Franco said his vows back to Carly he would bring down a giant screen and start the porn party for the audience. I was surprised when he did the equivalent of ripping off his mask by suddenly calling her  a LCW. Surely he plans to show the video at some point?

 

Or maybe Heather will burst in, holding a gun on everyone so they have to listen during the whole sexy time.

Edited November 3, 2014 by P3pp3rb1rd

[Chairperson Meow]

I wish there would be some originality. Can she dress like Anonymous?

[jennifer6973]

Well if he does show the video, I hope he has the good sense to have Joss leave.

[hypnotoad]

 

I wonder if Heather is Franco's show-and-tell partner in this dog-and-pony show of a wedding...is she running the video projector of Carly and Sonny in flagrante delicto? Moaning and groaning?

 

I sure hope not. I really do not want to hear that stupid recording again. But more importantly, didn't Days of Our Lives feature a porn movie played during a wedding earlier this summer? Would RC really want to copy that? Okay, fine RC has no issue copying stuff, but in this case the Days video was far more shocking since it featured a woman drugging and raping a priest. Not even the horror-fest that is the moobster and Carly can touch the Days video in pure ickiness.

 

I forgot to add  a previous post: the thing that really bugged me during Sonny's entire conversation with Morgan were the many times he called AJ an idiot. Now I realize AJ did a lot of dumb shit in his time. I know he was a drunken loser a lot of that time too. But Sonny calling anyone an idiot? Good lawd give me a break. He is the worst mobster ever. Ever. I have no idea how his alleged crime mob has even endured all these years considering how unrelentingly stupid he is and he's calling AJ an idiot?

 

I just want one thing to happen as a result of Sonny killing AJ for no good reason: Sonny needs to suffer. One of the reasons Sonny and Victor from Y&R are such boring characters is because they never ever lose. I loved Adam Chandler on AMC, he was basically a gray character and more often than not he was plotting and up to no good. But you know what? He lost a lot of the time. His family turned on him and so forth. Not forever but at least long enough for him to realize what he'd done (not that the lesson ever really stuck).

 

Sonny standing in front of Morgan pretending to be the victim in this entire Connie/AJ murder mess is just ridiculous. How is this the leading man of this show? I've missed most of the Sonny years thank goodness, because I don't know how some of you have done it.

[yowsah1]

On an unrelated note, while I do really like this Joss actress (she kicked ass through all of Friday's episode), Ron really needs to drop the whole corn thing.  It is so gross that he's taken some message board snark on a previous young actress and incorporated it into a running gag with a new actress bringing that snark to life.

 

Further proof that Ron loves to troll the people who post on these message boards.  I remember back when a couple of posters on TWoP took to calling Britt "Britch" for a short time.  The joke wore off quickly and everyone moved on... and the next thing you knew Felix was dropping "Britch" into every other sentence.

 

If Liz screws him and still doesn't know it's Jason, Ima be like, "Say whaaaa?"

 

Maybe if she runs up 12 flights of stairs beforehand, it might jog her memory.  ;)

[Cobalt Stargazer]

I just want one thing to happen as a result of Sonny killing AJ for no good reason: Sonny needs to suffer. One of the reasons Sonny and Victor from Y&R are such boring characters is because they never ever lose. I loved Adam Chandler on AMC, he was basically a gray character and more often than not he was plotting and up to no good. But you know what? He lost a lot of the time. His family turned on him and so forth. Not forever but at least long enough for him to realize what he'd done (not that the lesson ever really stuck).

 

To be (sort of) fair, before they stuck Carly with Sonny for eight thousand rounds of dysfunction, neither of them were the soul-destroying monsters they are now. Fucked up and self-destructive? Sure. But they didn't always win, and people looked down on them a lot, as they rightfully should have. But through bad writing and worse acting, both characters have turned into Ludicrous Speed versions of their previous selves, and its probably way too late to turn back the clock now.

 

Maybe if she runs up 12 flights of stairs beforehand, it might jog her memory.  ;)

 

*snickersnort* Love it.

[hypnotoad]

 

But they didn't always win, and people looked down on them a lot, as they rightfully should have.

 

Yeah but how many years has it been since either of them were treated the way they should be?

 

 

Ron really needs to drop the whole corn thing.

 

He really does. It's just so stupid. RC is the worst.

[decogirl]

But more importantly, didn't Days of Our Lives feature a porn movie played during a wedding earlier this summer? Would RC really want to copy that?

 

RC had a porn movie play instead of VICKERMAN on OLTL about six years ago. It was pretty funny, mostly because of Tuc Watkins, but I digress, the DOOL porn isn't new.

 

Back to the subject, I am so angry with Morgan forgiving Sonny. Why does he never pay? 

Edited November 3, 2014 by decogirl

[Dandesun]

Days did have a sex video played during a wedding... Marlena, who played it, was hoping it would keep Brady from marrying Kristen not realizing that she was playing a video of Kristen raping her drugged son Eric.

All in all, what Franco's about to do isn't as all around awful as that mess. Sonny and Carly may not have known they were being taped but they we're both conscious and consensual about the sex they were having.

Edited November 3, 2014 by Dandesun

[Turtle]

I wonder if Heather is Franco's show-and-tell partner in this dog-and-pony show of a wedding​

 

 

This just made me realize that we don't have any idea what role Heather plays in Franco's plan, do we?  Is she supposed to murder Carly?  Slip her a bunch of LSD?  Or just be AV support?  I honestly have no idea.  We don't even know what Franco's plan is, other than playing the video.  I don't know why, but this is really bugging me all of a sudden.  

 

I'm still holding out hope that Morgan's forgiveness of Sonny is just a ploy somehow.  I know it's unlikely, well, probably impossible, but I just don't even know if I can watch if this turns in to "Sonny Saves Ava" week.  And I usually watch every minute of this show, even when it's awful.  And I don't even think having this turn in to a Michael versus Morgan story could make up for this crap.  (Although, I have to admit, having Michael turn to the Qs and being in an ongoing feud with Morgan could be good stuff.  But this is not the way to get there.  Sonny ruins everything.)

[Chairperson Meow]

The only way that Ron could have done shocking was to have security footage showing Sonny shooting AJ, with AJ begging for his life.

[KerleyQ]

RC had a porn movie play instead of VICKERMAN on OLTL about six years ago. It was pretty funny, mostly because of Tuc Watkins, but I digress, the DOOL porn isn't new.

 

 

God I loved that whole Vickerman premiere.  I honestly don't think Ron will pull off that level of awesomeness anymore.  

 

On that note, I sincerely doubt that the reveal that Sonny shot AJ and that he and Carly have been tainting their son's furniture will be nearly as amazing as I could hope for.  

[Mrs OldManBalls]

They need to do a montage of Michael's purchase of new furniture. 

[ch1]

Nah, they just need to show him taking a match to the place.

[peachmangosteen]

and could someone please find her a shirt that fits?!? She keeps wearing these shirts that expose her midriff whenever she leans over or raises her arms.

 

Her clothes drive me nuts. Particularly her current top that, as you said, is obviously two sizes too small and just looks ridiculous.

 

Well if he does show the video, I hope he has the good sense to have Joss leave.

 

I didn't even think about that. In addition, it's pretty gross he called Carly a whore in front of her young daughter. I mean it's gross he called her that at all, but with Joss there it's just doubly gross. I truly hope they take Joss away before the video. I imagine Lucas/Brad will probably peace out with her beforehand. I hope RC isn't gross enough to keep her there, but I really wonder about him so.

 

Nah, they just need to show him taking a match to the place.

 

From the minute Sonny killed AJ I have wanted Michael to go full-on crazy when he finds out the truth and that hasn't changed, so I really hope they have him actually set fire to his apartment.

Edited November 3, 2014 by peachmangosteen

[TeeVee329]

Nah, they just need to show him taking a match to the place.

 

I'm sure there's room for him to bunk over at the Quartermaine mansion.  If he wants to twist the knife in Sonny and Carly, that's as good a start as any.

[Chairperson Meow]

I still think it's weird that dude is head of a company and his moochers have a better house than he does.

[Dandesun]

 

 

God I loved that whole Vickerman premiere.  I honestly don't think Ron will pull off that level of awesomeness anymore. 

On that note, I sincerely doubt that the reveal that Sonny shot AJ and that he and Carly have been tainting their son's furniture will be nearly as amazing as I could hope for.

 

I still don't think that the Vickerman premiere warranted the sheer mind-blistering awfulness that was Nate and Deanna being blackmailed to do porn in the first place. That shit lasted forever and it was horrible. The premiere was funny, sure, but it wasn't worth it as far as I was concerned. What was worth it, was the Todd reveal... but that didn't have anything to do with the porn. And I'm still pissed that Ron squandered any interaction between Todd and Blair for a full three weeks after that scintillating kiss...

 

Which is why I don't feel that getting too invested in this particular wedding bullshit is a good idea. Ron will focus on the absolute wrong thing when it comes down to it. He'll shove it aside or completely ignore what should be the fallout in lieu of, oh, Franco and Nina being nuts together or something. That's how Ron rolls.

[Francie]

Ron really needs to drop the whole corn thing.

 

He really does. It's just so stupid. RC is the worst.

 

I can't tell if Ron's trying to pay back the snarkers  ("I'll show you, I'll run the joke into the ground and make you wish you had never started it in the first place!") or if he truly doesn't know when to leave the party, so to speak.  On second thought, he's always trying to "be" a part of the joke instead of the butt of the joke ("Yo, Soup, you so funny -- ha ha, we make a great team, don't we. Don't we? Guys ... guys ... wait up!"). So it's likely the second. As long as one person laughs at it, he'll keep doing it. He has absolutely no sense of when a joke has been run into the ground.

 

it's pretty gross he called Carly a whore in front of her young daughter.

 

Typical Ron.  I wish that everyone and anyone believed that using that term was beneath them. On camera or off camera.

[Dandesun]

 

it's pretty gross he called Carly a whore in front of her young daughter.

 

Isn't it just a matter of time before Sonny starts with the 'whoresluttramp' mantra and throws barware? Franco's just easing Joss in.

[TeeVee329]

I still don't think that the Vickerman premiere warranted the sheer mind-blistering awfulness that was Nate and Deanna being blackmailed to do porn in the first place. That shit lasted forever and it was horrible. The premiere was funny, sure, but it wasn't worth it as far as I was concerned.

 

God yes, this.  Nate's humiliation at the Vickerman premiere didn't make up for a) the weeks of awfulness we had to sit through leading up to it or b) the way Ron completely bungled the fallout.

 

Same story here.  The weeks of Franco chuckling to himself and dropping non-subtle hints in his dialogue and everyone around him - especially Carly -  being reduced to a brainless moron have not been entertaining.  The fallout is no doubt going to disappoint since the main thing Ron wants us to worry about is if BFF Franco and Nina will be able to support each other.  And the actual moment, at least for me, was tainted with the blatant ripping off from OLTL.  URGH.

 

It's pretty gross he called Carly a whore in front of her young daughter.

 

Hopefully today's episode starts with Joss running over and kicking Franco in the nuts.

Edited November 3, 2014 by TeeVee329

[peachmangosteen]

Isn't it just a matter of time before Sonny starts with the 'whoresluttramp' mantra and throws barware? Franco's just easing Joss in.

 

Hey, good point. Better to get her desensitized to it now since she's gonna hear it a lot in her life.

 

Hopefully today's episode starts with Joss running over and kicking Franco in the nuts.

 

Dammit, I'm gonna be so disappointed now when this doesn't happen.

Edited November 3, 2014 by peachmangosteen

[Dandesun]

So, I have to clarify something...

 

The 'video' that Franco's evil eye took, that he keeps watching, has magically managed to capture video that the show camera has taken, right? Because in reality anything that was strapped to Carly's chest the way that eye seems to be would have gotten a lot of Sonny's moob shots during the sex.

 

Which, let's be honest, would kind of be hilarious to play at a wedding but everyone is probably really glad that's not going to be the case.