Episode Discussion: TFGH

[ulkis]

While not all of it landed, I appreciated the efforts with the Lucas/ Bobbie/ Brad scenes.  People talking about things, both trivial and important; people being involved in each other's lives in a way that makes some sort of sense -- it makes the show better and less infuriating.  

 

I like Bobbie okay, although her baby voice has always irritated me a bit, but I'm happy for Jackie Zeman, because she's probably really happy to be on the show and get some nice scenes here and there.

[BestestAuntEver]

Doesn't it take a bit more than 4 years of med school to be a real doctor. Like doesn't one have to to at least an internship?

 

 

Yes. 3-8 years of Residency depending upon the specialty. For me, it was obvious they left off the residency part. They wrote it as if Lucas could simply pick & chose what type of MD specialty he wanted because he completed Med school. These paid writers don't know how to use Google or go call anyone at the Grey's set. Hell, GH & Grey's share the same cafeteria.

[TeeVee329]

Eh, considering Emily graduated medical school during a commercial break, I can handle this.

[rur]

After Carly's line about the only way Heather could get out of Pentonville would be in a coffin, I'm afraid of what Todd's (hell, that's who he's playing; that's what I'm calling him) escape plan for her might be, because that sounds like the kind of unoriginal crap Ron would write. And I'm even more afraid that he'll totally rip off the plot/reveal of numerous other stories about people planning escapes in coffins. The only reason I'm daring to write this here is because I'm pretty certain the scenes for the next couple of weeks have already been filmed. 

[HeatLifer]

And Faison. Instead of the good guys being smart enough to figure the bad guys out, they just had Olivia "see" him.

For the writers, it was, admittedly, a whole lot easier than, you know, writing.

It's such a copout. And her visions are never used to solve things I give a crap about. Like my #FreeRobin campaign.

[WhoaWhoKnew]

Are there really oncologists walking around with medications that would be more relevant to an OB/GYN? Did Kiki and Silas stop at the hospital before going to Ava's rescue?

Edited October 20, 2014 by WhoaWhoKnew

[PilatesFun]

This may be the only time you'll ever hear me agree with Carly.

A Four-star restaurant does not misspell "dessert" on their menu. That was sloppy and ridiculous, Olivia.

[WhoaWhoKnew]

A Four-star restaurant does not misspell "dessert" on their menu. That was sloppy and ridiculous, Olivia.

Yep. And Olivia's justification that people know what they mean is even more ludicrous.

[Cobalt Stargazer]

Sonny's not going to prison. But that said, I do think this regime paints him like the vile man that he is--I don't think we're supposed to find his murder of AJ excusable at all or Carly's choices to go along with it. He's barely even pretending to have morals to himself. He may still be one of the leading men, but he's not being painted as the hero anymore. Which makes the show 1000x more watchable to me. I'll be quite surprised if Michael doesn't cut him out of his life for this--and drowning my sorrows and eating my hat simultaneously.

 

But if he's still a leading man, doesn't that kind of mean he's not entirely being painted as the scum he is? I don't expect Sonny to go to prison, not knowing that Mo just re-signed, but can you have a leading man who's a villain*?

 

Morgan/Ava are still so cute together. Silas actually easily fit in the scenes. I Could have done without Kaka in those scenes thou. Why was she so smiley after Ava got the shot?  It threw me off because everyone else was showing concern/fear & she has a big ass smile.

 

This has likely been said before, but even when KA is in the background not doing anything, she's still as annoying as all hell because she can't even react properly in silence. And it just gets worse when she actually opens her piehole and speaks.

 

*Without it being The Sopranos or something, I mean.

Edited October 20, 2014 by Cobalt Stargazer

[Dandesun]

 

Yes. 3-8 years of Residency depending upon the specialty. For me, it was obvious they left off the residency part.

 

Yeah, but it's soap doctoring. You know... where everyone who has a medical degree is a general practitioner... despite the fact that they've often been introduced as having a specialty. I think the only time they've ever acknowledged the concept of a residency was when they started Port Charles. And let's not forget that medical degrees are quickly achieved.

 

I swear, Marty Saybrooke on OLTL became a full fledged doctor in what felt like six months. This was six months from when she decided to turn her life around and go to med school. Next thing you know, she's wearing lab coats and carrying clip-boards around hospitals and having patients of her own.

 

I may be exaggerating. It may have taken a whole year.

 

But GH, I mean, it has a history of specialized doctors who just do what the hell ever. Monica was always a heart specialist. I have no idea what Alan specialized in. Patrick is a neurologist. What was Tony? Was he heart, too? What was Noah? Or Jeff? I honestly don't remember if Larry on OLTL specialized in anything but, damn, if there was a story for a doctor he was right there in the middle of it! They did bring one character on who was a plastic surgeon and she was married to a cad who... did whatever.

 

Soap medicine is rather like soap law. Soap law rarely, if ever, designates different types of lawyers. Any lawyer covers everything... it doesn't differentiate between business, domestic, criminal, contract. Nope, all one big lump. And rarely ever accurate.

[linsav]

Yes. 3-8 years of Residency depending upon the specialty. For me, it was obvious they left off the residency part.

 

 

Bobbi clearly stated that Lucas had finished med school AND had not chosen a speciality NOR had begun his residency.

Edited October 20, 2014 by linsav

[dubbel zout]

Eh, considering Emily graduated medical school during a commercial break, I can handle this.

 

Makes sense for someone who was in med school for three months.

[WendyCR72]

Makes sense for someone who was in med school for three months.

 

As Schoolhouse Rock once said, 3 is a magical number in GH-land. Emily was a doc in about three months AND wasn't Who knocked up for a measly three months before spitting out the greatest reason why birth control exists in the form of Spencer before croaking? Full term, no less. Maybe those wonder genes are why Spencer is such a huge brat who needs to be shipped off to boarding school on Mars.

[SoapDoc]

 

Are there really oncologists walking around with medications that would be more relevant to an OB/GYN? Did Kiki and Silas stop at the hospital before going to Ava's rescue?

 

I know this is a soap opera but I really needed Silas to say once that he was an oncologist and might not be able to help. Just say it clearly at least. I am an ophthalmologist and if someone called me to help them stop labor or deliver a baby, I would first remind them that I have not delivered a baby since my OB/GYN rotation during 3rd year med school. As an oncologist, Silas may have delivered one during his residency during an ER rotation; however, he is not wandering around ready to stop labor. Maybe he can deal with her blood pressure if she is panicked. Checking her dilation? Not letting an oncologist do that...

 

I know it's a TV show but I just appreciate some acknowledgement of the different specialties.

 

 

Yes. 3-8 years of Residency depending upon the specialty

I know -- internal medicine/ophthalmology was 4 years. I wish I had gone to soap med school. I could have eliminated those years!

[CPP83]

Brad's "Dr. O threw me off a parapet, but I still work with her" hand wave made me giggle.  I'm weak, you guys.

 

 

 

 

That was too cute. I was glad to see Bobbie being accepting of Brad and I didn't have to deal with more dredging up of the whole "You helped Britt steal Rocco!!!!" nonsense because A, I never cared, and B, it never mattered anyway, that kid loves anyone who remembers to give him a bowl of cheerios.

 

I guess they're hinting at Lucas being a sort of Dougie Howser like prodigy doctor to be, brilliant and talented enough to skip all those extra years mere mortal would need to practice medicine but hey, if it leads to him wearing a doctor's coat and he and Brad sneaking off for whoopee nookie breaks in empty exam rooms every chance they get I'm all for it.

 

I'm hoping maybe they might get a few date night scenes where it's just the two of them so I can enjoy their cute coupling. It's been weeks since their never ending bed romp, I've missed them.

 

I think Michael plays a fine doctor character, I just don't think they made him the right sort of doctor that actually gets to do much. He's an oncologist and that isn't a specialty that gets a lot of mileage on a soap, thankfully. But whenever they actually let him play the part and do something I think he's really good at it and very believable, and I like how he breaks out the geek glasses for his vision, heh.

 

Michael and Maura have always clicked well, imo, and the shot scene felt very genuine and real to me. And while I admire Silas for putting aside all personal strife between he and Ava to do all he can medically to save her child I still want that baby dead. Dead dead dead, it's gotta die.

 

Those were the only two parts of the show I could stomach/feel positive about. The rest involved just way too much Sonny the ass, Sabrina the baby killer, Michael the hopeless dope, Shawn the useless, Carly the pathetic, Olivia the brainless, Franco the SERIAL KILLER, the Nina the whackonut from hell, and Mags the breathing plot point.

[jennifer6973]

But GH, I mean, it has a history of specialized doctors who just do what the hell ever. Monica was always a heart specialist. I have no idea what Alan specialized in. Patrick is a neurologist. What was Tony? Was he heart, too? What was Noah? Or Jeff? I honestly don't remember if Larry on OLTL specialized in anything but, damn, if there was a story for a doctor he was right there in the middle of it! They did bring one character on who was a plastic surgeon and she was married to a cad who... did whatever.

 

 

 

Tony and Noah were also Neurologists.  Tony consulted on Jason's case and recommended Noah who in turn brought in Patrick.

Edited October 20, 2014 by jennifer6973

[linsav]

I guess they're hinting at Lucas being a sort of Dougie Howser like prodigy doctor to be, brilliant and talented enough to skip all those extra years mere mortal would need to practice medicine but hey, if it leads to him wearing a doctor's coat and he and Brad sneaking off for whoopee nookie breaks in empty exam rooms every chance they get I'm all for it.

 

 

No Bobbi said he has only finished med school and hasn't picked a speciality nor begun his residency yet.

[CPP83]

No Bobbi said he has only finished med school and hasn't picked a speciality nor begun his residency yet.

 

 

 

I know, my point was that they're, aka Ron, seemingly setting it up so that we'll blink and suddenly he'll be doing consults and it'll all get explained away that he actually went further along or something without having told Bobbie because she'd just bug him worse to not waste his medical "talents".

 

Ron is nothing if not incredibly impatient, so if Jakson can be full blown intent on making Liz his new"bae" after a two day long coma that involved a complete face reconstruct, any and all things are possible.

 

ETA:

 

Although now that Brad has met half the parents, when do I get my Julian scene with the boys? I've been waiting for Julian to get introduced properly to Brad for a while.

Edited October 20, 2014 by CPP83

[WendyCR72]

Although now that Brad has met half the parents, when do I get my Julian scene with the boys? I've been waiting for Julian to get introduced properly to Brad for a while.

 

Kind of hard for Brad to meet the other half. Tony is dead. THAT man is his dad. Yeah, yeah, Julian/biology, blah. But Tony raised him and he was Lucas' dad. Julian should not ever replace that.

 

Have a relationship, if Lucas wishes? Awesome. But, to me, he is a friendly-ish sperm donor/possible friend.

[peachmangosteen]

I actually really enjoyed this ep. It had some of the ridiculously OTT and terrible stuff that I love, but then it had the Lucas/Bobbie/Brad and even Sabrina/Michael and Morgan/Ava/Silas scenes that were just sort of nice, quiet scenes.

 

I've decided that the best way to end this Franco/Carly wedding is with Michael denouncing Sonny/Carly and then killing Franco in a rage fueled meltdown. Sheer perfection.

[TeeVee329]

I've decided that the best way to end this Franco/Carly wedding is with Michael denouncing Sonny/Carly and then killing Franco in a rage fueled meltdown. Sheer perfection.

 

Throw in Michael punting Kiki off the pier and you've got yourself a deal.

 

I'm mildly curious how Port Charles' biggest hypocrite will still rationalize her best buddy-ship with Franco when she finds out the games he and his pal Neens have been playing with her boyfriend, her mom, and her baby brother or sister.  Especially because, come to think of it, Kiki got the ball rolling by telling Franco about the cheating.

Edited October 20, 2014 by TeeVee329

[LeftPhalange]

It would have been nice to see Lucas and Bobbie scenes without that freak Brad present.

 

Theoretically, if Sonny weren't dumb would there be a way he could pin AJ's murder on Ava? Now that Michael is starting to suspect her this would be the perfect time to set her up and also figure out a way to expose her as Connie's killer.

[BestestAuntEver]

As Schoolhouse Rock once said, 3 is a magical number in GH-land.

 

 

3-6-9..12-15-18..21-24-27.....30. Thanks, WendyCR72, this has been stuck in my head.

 

The rest involved just way too much Sonny the ass, Sabrina the baby killer, Michael the hopeless dope, Shawn the useless, Carly the pathetic, Olivia the brainless, Franco the SERIAL KILLER, the Nina the whackonut from hell, and Mags the breathing plot point. 

 

 

Gh's new tagline

 

I'm mildly curious how Port Charles' biggest hypocrite will still rationalize her best buddy-ship with Franco when she finds out the games he and his pal Neens have been playing with her boyfriend, her mom, and her baby brother or sister.

 

 

Don't worry Franco will help her get to know her new mommy, Nina. Or Nina, will tell her Franco's an important part of her life. Easy peasy. Kaka will be free to continue to be a hypocritical nosy ass.

 

I forgot to mention earlier that Nathan's look of confusion at his door not opening, when he saw the chain made me laugh. I died when RP kept looking at the top of the door.

[dubbel zout]

Sabrina was back to rolling the r's in Carrrlos today.

 

I can buy that Silas is a better choice to deliver Ava's baby than Dumber or Dumbest, but for him to give her an exam and know exactly what's going on is a bit much. And there's NO WAY he'd have the labor-stopping drug in his bag. But I did like that he was wearing glasses for his doctoring. Hee..

 

I'm sure Olivia is crushed—crushed!—that she's not invited to Carly and Franco's wedding.

 

I hate that Nina has to be mentally unbalanced on top of all of this other crap. It really lessens her situation for me, because it gives Ron an easy way out of everything. All he has to do is have everyone say "What do you expect? Nina's crazy." It's as bad as giving Franco a tumor.

[CPP83]

Kind of hard for Brad to meet the other half. Tony is dead. THAT man is his dad. Yeah, yeah, Julian/biology, blah. But Tony raised him and he was Lucas' dad. Julian should not ever replace that.

 

 

 

 

Julian isn't replacing Tony, he's being included in Lucas' life now, and he also didn't just abandon him willingly in the first place. I really don't see any issue with that myself. He is Lucas' father through biology and he is alive and he can share this time with him, he's not stepping in for Tony, imo, but he's just being there for Lucas.

 

Julian hasn't claimed biology makes him Lucas' "rightful" father and no one else has either, certainly not Lucas. I don't see why if he opens himself up to Julian that is replacing Tony in any way, he's just gaining more family. He's accepted Sam as his big sister but does that mean Carly is chump changes all of a sudden? He has a new nephew in Danny but does he replace Morgan and Michael and Miss little Corn muffin? For me I see Lucas as having his family added to, no one has been replaced or removed from their rightful positions in his life.

 

I come from a family who have been in the fostering and adopting world since before I ever came along and that was nearly 7 decades ago so to me one can never have enough people in their lives to love them regardless of biology or how they entered their lives.

 

 

 

And there's NO WAY he'd have the labor-stopping drug in his bag

 

 

 

 

I just assumed Silas made a stop at the hospital first because he knew exactly what was happening to Ava.

 

Kiki filled him in, once she stopped being distracted and stupid, about what was going on with Ava, that she seemed to be going into premature labor, so to me it made sense he would have come prepared because he wasn't just showing up there blind and out of the know.

 

Then again I'm probably giving them too much credit for pre-planning for once but there you have it.

Edited October 21, 2014 by CPP83

[Tiger]

@TeeVee329

Now that you mention it, her head is indeed shaped like a football.

[TeeVee329]

All he has to do is have everyone say "What do you expect? Nina's crazy." It's as bad as giving Franco a tumor.

 

Oh yeah, "She was off her meds!" will be Nina's version of "He had a tumor!".

[WendyCR72]

Oh yeah, "She was off her meds!" will be Nina's version of "He had a tumor!".

 

Hey, the meds excuse has worked for Sonny for ages. I guess Ron wants to spread the wealth.

[UYI]

But GH, I mean, it has a history of specialized doctors who just do what the hell ever. Monica was always a heart specialist. I have no idea what Alan specialized in. Patrick is a neurologist. What was Tony? Was he heart, too? What was Noah? Or Jeff? I honestly don't remember if Larry on OLTL specialized in anything but, damn, if there was a story for a doctor he was right there in the middle of it! They did bring one character on who was a plastic surgeon and she was married to a cad who... did whatever.

 

 

 

 

At the very beginning of his career, Alan, I think, was a heart surgeon, like Monica was. But by the time he came to GH in 1977, he had injured his hand, which forced him to become a general practitioner, and eventually chief of staff. 

[Rancide]

Brad!!!!  I love him.  The actor has a really nice presence and good comedic timing.  He and Lucas are so, so cute together.

 

Anyone else get the sense today that the show is about to go for Silas and Ava redux?  When Silas came on the show they were obviously angling for a Silas/Ava storyline--remember that Nathan originally came to PC looking for BOTH of them?  But then Ava got distracted by Sonny's penis, as one does, and peaced out of the Nina situation more or less completely.  Silas was being WAY TOO NICE to Ava today.  I realize she's the mother of his child and also a pregnant woman having a medical incident, but Silas has consistently treated Ava as lower than pond scum since the second she arrived, and his interaction with her today was way out-of-character.  What's the play here?  Nina kidnaps Ava's baby, and Ava and Silas reconnect as Silas helps her look for it?  I might actually be okay with Silas/Ava.  I just wish they didn't careen so wildly from one plot to the next.  Last we checked, Silas kind of thought Ava was trash, and it should take more than a couple of early contractions to fix that.

[Turtle]

I've watched this show long enough to know that all doctors' bags are like Mary Poppins' bag.  

[hypnotoad]

 

It would have been nice to see Lucas and Bobbie scenes without that freak Brad present.

 

I think he was supposed to be there to meet the mom, right? We had Lucas and Bobbie in scenes together without Brad just the other day. I never saw any of Brad's icky stuff (just read about it here), so he doesn't bother me at all. In fact, Lucas and Brad are one of the few couples I can tolerate on this show. The actors have chemistry and that usually can take me a long way with enjoying a pairing.

 

I absolutely do not believe Carly loves that fugly necklace. I'm asked to buy a lot of crap on this show, but that I do not!

 

Shut up The Nina, Kiki, Sonny, Carly and Olivia.

[CPP83]

I realize she's the mother of his child and also a pregnant woman having a medical incident, but Silas has consistently treated Ava as lower than pond scum since the second she arrived, and his interaction with her today was way out-of-character

 

 

 

 

For me things took a turn when Mags was exposed as the one who killed the pharmacist and all that, because Silas and Sam had been hunting for proof Ava was the guilty party, covering up her tracks having targeted the Nina, but then he found out that not only was Ava innocent but she had been worried he was the guilty one and wanted to try and spare him.

 

After that they pretty much stopped having scenes together, she was too busy dealing with Sonny's mini me, but I thought that things had settled down some between them back then it just stopped going anywhere for the time being, as does pretty much any character growth/progression/change on this show.

[Rancide]

God, I forgot that Silas and Sam were on their quest for justice to prove that Ava was the one who did it.  I'd entirely blocked out that part of the story because a) there was never any evidence to back it up, and it made no sense; I think Sam just one day said "you know, it must have been Ava" and then that was that, and b) Ava was pretty much not involved in the story in any way except as a name that got randomly dropped from time to time; until her sudden reappearance at the last minute to tell Silas she'd thought he did it, she'd been off-screen and uninvolved pretty much the entire time.  I guess there were so many other things terribly wrong with that story that the weird non-role played by Ava in it slipped my mind. 

 

I do remember there was a peace-making talk.  But my recollection of the fact that Silas thought Ava was trash predates the Nina crap.  I remember when they first came to town, the percolating story was that Silas openly despised her, but she was desperate to get him back.  That story drifted off to nowhere once Ava got sucked into the orbit of Sonny's magic peen and became far too busy chasing father and son to participate in the "justice for Nina" bullshit, even though the entire story was sort of ostensibly about her. 

 

God, laying it all out like that reminds me how much this show sucks.  RC has the attention span of a cocker spaniel.

Edited October 21, 2014 by Rancide

[tvgoddess]

 

A Four-star restaurant does not misspell "dessert" on their menu. That was sloppy and ridiculous, Olivia.

 

Hey, it's a Five-Star according to Carly, get it right!

 

Aside from a few good lines from Heather along with Brad's "bygones" line, and Morgan/Ava sweetness, I had little use for this episode. Sabrina The Teenage Baby Killer needs to STFU and die.

 

I hope to God Maura isn't being saddled with the likes of ME, she doesn't deserve that. Not when she puts in 110% and he puts in 5%. I thought Silas was way OOC. He has always treated Ava like absolute crap. I already thought his judgmental tone of disapproval was creeping in when he asked who was after her.

 

Sonny and Shawn are complete morons.

[CPP83]

I do remember there was a peace-making talk.  But my recollection of the fact that Silas thought Ava was trash predates the Nina crap

 

 

 

I remember, I think?, that as soon as he laid eyes on Kiki he immediately began to think she was his and a lot of his negativity came from that, because he was so sure Ava was lying about the whole the SERIAL KILLER being the Daddy business and she had kept their kid from him for 20 years. Though if only he knew who Kiki really was he probably would have backed away and pretended he never saw her.

 

Then again they also had a bitter break up after the Nina was in comaland, I guess...that is what was implied I think, but they never really went there with them either.

 

At this point the characters might as well just ask each other if they like each other anymore or not because months go by without a single word spoken and then suddenly they're having scenes and sipping wine and shoving their hands up the other's lady bits to cop a feel.

 

Silas: So...we're friends now right?

 

Ava: I don't know...when did we last talk again?

 

Silas: ...good question...

 

Kik: Ummm...Dad? You've had your hand in Mom's body for like an hour now...

 

Morgan: Shut up Kiki, he probably has to count the baby's toes or something.

[Harmony233]

was Franco trying to get Heather to go after Bobbie? I just thought it was kinda weird that he mentioned that scott and Bobbie would be at the wedding.

[WendyCR72]

was Franco trying to get Heather to go after Bobbie? I just thought it was kinda weird that he mentioned that scott and Bobbie would be at the wedding.

 

Well, he is a SERIAL KILLER and has done other heinous acts, so it wouldn't surprise me.

[tvgoddess]

I forgot to mention all the awkward hugging.

[CPP83]

was Franco trying to get Heather to go after Bobbie? I just thought it was kinda weird that he mentioned that scott and Bobbie would be at the wedding.

 

 

 

Don't forget he also labeled her a "liar" because she would dare cover for her daughter, her flesh and blood, and not tell he, the SERIAL KILLER and responsible party for her eldest grandson's rape, the truth instead that Carly had been with Sonny.

 

This character is just garbage, plain and simple, pure garbage.

[WendyCR72]

Don't forget he also labeled her a "liar" because she would dare cover for her daughter, her flesh and blood, and not tell he, the SERIAL KILLER and responsible party for her eldest grandson's rape, the truth instead that Carly had been with Sonny.

 

This character is just garbage, plain and simple, pure garbage.

 

Someone, ANYONE, needs to make him worm food. He's taking up valuable air. But RC seems to adore the vilest characters imaginable, so I don't see an end here. But Franco was NEVER DESIGNED as a long-term character, ever. Just a sicko who seemed to be fixated on OriginalRecipe!Borg! You know, like 99.9% of the rest of the show was...and then GONE.

 

What made RC think this would ever fly?

[ouinason]

Oh, screw Bobbie. She's a hypocritical, judgmental, plastic faced, baby talking cow and I can't defend her taking up for Carly in this shit. I've never liked her anyway, but she's getting more and more annoying as she clings to Carly's backside.

And her voice really puts me off... A lot.

[Kitty Redstone]

I forgot to mention all the awkward hugging.

 

Same here!  The one between Magda and Nina was all kinds of weird.  Like two brittle skeletons trying to come together for a hug, while they're each still hanging from a rack in a lab.

[TheGourmez]

 

But if he's still a leading man, doesn't that kind of mean he's not entirely being painted as the scum he is? I don't expect Sonny to go to prison, not knowing that Mo just re-signed, but can you have a leading man who's a villain*?

 

Including the caveat of the Sopranos you already mentioned, which is what Guza thought he was writing during the 00s,  there are a great many shows with anti-heroes as the leading men or women, especially over the past 15 years. First ones that come to mind? Dexter, Breaking Bad, The Blacklist, Weeds. Yes, they often start out with a thread of goodness, a potential for being better people, but much like Sonny, that gets stripped away over the years.

 

That said, I don't disagree with you--I personally don't enjoy shows with anti-heroes all that much. Despite how much I loved Maurice Benard in the late 90s, I couldn't stand watching Sonny in the last decade and I only can now because I think he's being portrayed as a horrible person again, rather than a great father & husband who occasionally loses his temper and likes power a little too much. But the popularity and critical acclaim given to shows with anti-heroes, against my own preferences, I think proves that yes, it can be done well. Heck, I recognize that Breaking Bad is one of the best written shows ever; it just wasn't my cup of tea. 

[PilatesFun]

My bad - Five-star restaurant.

Although that, like everything else on this show, strains credibility.

[CPP83]

Same here!  The one between Magda and Nina was all kinds of weird.  Like two brittle skeletons trying to come together for a hug, while they're each still hanging from a rack in a lab.

 

 

 

 

I am almost certain Mags was in fear of her well constructed facial region around the Nina's unhingable maw which could easily turn on her and rip half her face off in one second of bat shit craziness if she got riled up again.

 

 

 

What made RC think this would ever fly?

 

 

 

 

Because he liked the idea and the rest of us could suck it if we didn't. That seems to be his everlasting motto for this show.

 

He can't be bothered to "please" everyone, he can't "write" for everyone, he has to go with what he thinks will work. Who cares if he wants to turn an unapologetic serial killer/rapist into a brain tumourless artist with a heart of gold, if we wouldn't fight it so much it'd feel so natural surely...

[Cobalt Stargazer]

Sonny and Shawn are complete morons.

 

In other news, water is wet, the sun is bright, and the economy is bad. ;-)

 

 But the popularity and critical acclaim given to shows with anti-heroes, against my own preferences, I think proves that yes, it can be done well. Heck, I recognize that Breaking Bad is one of the best written shows ever; it just wasn't my cup of tea. 

 

I suppose, but if Ron thinks he's writing Breaking Bad, someone needs to up his dosage or something. Sonny Corinthos is no Walter White. He's not even Don Draper, who (probably) actually isn't someone who would shoot a man down in cold blood while they begged for their life, then screw his son's girlfriend in the crypt of said someone. Whatever I do or don't think of Walter or Don, their writing is top-notch. The writing on GH? Not even close, IMO.

[movingtargetgal]

When the AJ reveal FINALLY does happen, I really need to see Michael have an entire episode dedicated to him verbally annihilating Sonny and Carly.  During this special episode Michael should [publicly, in front of all of Port Charles, recount ALL the ways his parents have screwed him over during his entire life and writes them off once and for all.  The last words Michael will ever say to Sonny and Carly I am NOT a Corinthos,  I AM MICHAEL QUATERMAINE!

[CPP83]

The last words Michael will ever say to Sonny and Carly I am NOT a Corinthos,  I AM MICHAEL QUATERMAINE!

 

 

 

At least until Sonny goes off his meds and ends up "troubled and suicidal" and Carly will call on Michael as his only hope and Michael won't be able to just let his other father die so he'll rush to his aid and they will find their way back to each other, and of course this will all be because Maurice re-sighed which means Sonny isn't going anywhere and there's no way they're going to take away his favourite toy he worked so hard to steal and then keep, Michael.

[ouinason]

I'm still holding out hope that nuJason and Michael will get together and reQ themselves. I can't see "Jake" as he is right now having jack to do with Sonny's little business and Michael needs to stop being a little bitch.