Episode Discussion: TFGH

[GHScorpiosRule]

1 minute ago, sacrebleu said:

with Nic, however-- it was just the sex.

The BEST SEX SHE EVAH HAD!!!!! Even though the love/sex scenes with Greg Vaughn's Lucky, clearly contradict that.

But, whatevs, show. I got to see my ALL TIME OTP a couple weeks ago, and have watched that movie four times already. So SUCK IT, GH. SUCK IIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!

Of course I'm talking about Shawn and Gus!

[statsgirl]

Carly, the "one who knows you down to your toes" is Jason  and that could be why he doesn't want you.  Sonny thinks she's a good friend to Sam, that shows how delusional he is about her.

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I had to laugh that Jason needed to get Anna's contact info from Robin. I know that was to show us he and Robin are in contact, but it's not as if Robin were the sole person who knows Anna's  number.

I'm sure it's in the on-line directory but heaven forbid  he looks it up himself instead of making a long distance call to Robin.

What really bugged me though is that he called and Anna went running to him. I wanted her to say "I'm busy right now, I'll  meet you when I'm done here." Or at least tell him to come to her. Anna shouldn't be  Jason's minion.

Edited December 18, 2017 by statsgirl

[GHScorpiosRule]

5 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Anna shouldn't be  Jason's minion

Anna shouldn't be giving either Jason or Mooby the time of day. She can say she understands the place both have in Robin's life, but that's IT. As someone who's been a double agent, and thus not completely good, she won't come off as a hypocrite, because, well, she's been there, and she, at least, changed her ways. If that makes any sense. It makes sense in my head. And I'm oh so grateful Robert continues to think of Mooby as a thug.

[HeatLifer]

How is Anna Jason's minion? Because she talks to him? Because she respects what he means to Robin? 

Edited December 18, 2017 by HeatLifer

[nilyank]

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

I had to laugh that Jason needed to get Anna's contact info from Robin. I know that was to show us he and Robin are in contact, but it's not as if Robin were the sole person who knows Anna's phone number. 

Especially when Sonny has that information as Sonny and Anna met last week.

[Blackie]

is anyone keeping track of how may times Liz has asked Franco to promise "no more promises"  ?  sooooo stupic.

Was mumbles Sonny saying the Britt was helping them or Brick?  Who is this Brick who is apparently great?

I wish Sam would just say that the sex is better with Drew so she's good where she is at.  Surely they didn't implant Jason"s memories of "his moves" into Drew, so the sex is all Drew.

[statsgirl]

Franco's "when I was three years old I pushed Drew down the stairs so I'm a terrible person to my core" is so stupid.  First Betsy doesn't know if he pushed Drew or Drew fell. And if he didn't set any fires or torture animals between then and when the tumor affected him, then he's probably not a psychopath.

And speaking of mind issues, Jason, just because Drew made different choices than you do even with your memories,  It doesn't mean that he remembers his own life. Different people make different decisions even under the identical circumstances and experiences so drop the narcissism of "of course he would do what I do unless he remembers his own life. " Identical twins aren't identical -- even for the Property Brothers one is left-handed and the other right.

1 hour ago, HeatLifer said:

How is Anna Jason's minion? Because she talks to him? Because she respects what he means to Robin? 

As I said, I wanted her to tell him "I'm busy right now. You can come here or I'll let you know when  I'm done. " Anna can help Jason for Robin's sake but she doesn't need to drop everything and come running to him when he calls.

I was also taught to respect older generations.  Finola Hughes may look like a contemporary of SBu but Anna is a generation older than Jason and he should be going to her, especially since he wants her to do him a favour.

[Perkie]

2 hours ago, statsgirl said:

that he called and Anna went running to him

And it was completely something that he could have told her over the phone.  Why did she need to go to him to be asked about the disco ball?  On the phone:  "Did Andre give you a disco ball?  It has a flashdrive in it".  "Ok let me check and get back to you".  See, a 1 minute phone call.  

I did love how Finola played it with Sonny though.  He says hello and she's gives off the 'yeah whatever' attitude towards him.  Love her so much!!

1 hour ago, Blackie said:

Was mumbles Sonny saying the Britt was helping them or Brick?  Who is this Brick who is apparently great?

Brick is his IT guy now that Spinelli's not living in town.  

[Sake614]

just as long as Sam doesn’t tell Carly ‘at least Drew doesn’t utter Sonny’s name after sex.’ Because Carly will think that’s a turn-on and one more reason Sam should go back to Jason.

i really hope they’re not making Drew the big bad in all this. I mean, I know the GH wormhole works fast but I can’t think how Drew would’ve gotten to the park, found the ornament and gotten back to his office with it.  And I LIKE him as a good guy. 

 

Thought the scene with drew drew and Oscar was well done. Oscar having a ton of questions and Drew not having any answers but willing to at least talk about it. Nice interaction.

 

random thought:  if Sonny is supposed to be all-knowing and all-seeing when it comes to his territory how does he not Have the first clue that Cassandra is running an illegal drug ring in PC?

[HeatLifer]

37 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Anna can help Jason for Robin's sake but she doesn't need to drop everything and come running to him when he calls.

He dropped everything and ran to her when she called, too. 

[Gam2]

Again, I’m back to watching GH after a long absence. Liz is so beautiful and Franco looks old enough to be her father. He’s really hard looking and I don’t buy the never ending love crap for one second. What the hell is wrong with that woman? On another note, Monica has had so many facelifts that she looks like a wax version of who she was 40 years ago. However, she forgot to check her neck in the mirror. Yikes. And why does she speak so strangely? Is it her too large false teeth, do you think? I can’t even listen to what she’s saying for being so horrifyingly fascinated with her face and neck. Shame on me. 

[TVbitch]

Jesus God already with Sam slowly teeter-walking through her scenes, dressed like a matronly zombie, and speaking in hushed "delivering a eulogy" tones.  

[Box305]

2 minutes ago, TVbitch said:

Jesus God already with Sam slowly teeter-walking through her scenes, dressed like a matronly zombie, and speaking in hushed "delivering a eulogy" tones.  

It's so bad. I wanted to fast forward through her scenes but I was watching live and couldn't. 

[HeatLifer]

8 minutes ago, TVbitch said:

Jesus God already with Sam slowly teeter-walking through her scenes, dressed like a matronly zombie, and speaking in hushed "delivering a eulogy" tones.  

Seriously, her slow-motion walking and slow-talking self is getting to the point where I'm like actively rooting for Drew and Jason to end up together.

[YaddaYadda]

Everyone just needs to leave Sam alone, stop asking her about Jason/Drew, stop telling her what she should do or hope she should do. Drew loves Sam, loves the children, wants to put them first and was honest enough about wanting to wait to marry until he knows who he is and I get the feeling Sam would rather Jason took a flight back to Russia at this point than be with him.

Also, is she icing Sonny out? She completely ignored his existence, and when he said hi to her, I thought she was going to melt into a puddle of anger. So now, I don't know if the anger is due to the way Drew was treated, or if it's because she knows that Sonny will never let go of his right hand man anymore than Jason will walk away from him.

Liz doesn't have 3 boys, she has 4. And I'm sure the youngest ones are all more mature and centered than the mofo she decided she's in love with. Why she loves him? I don't know. And this is coming from someone who has actively hated Liz for years and years and years.

[statsgirl]

33 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Everyone just needs to leave Sam alone, stop asking her about Jason/Drew, stop telling her what she should do or hope she should do. Drew loves Sam, loves the children, wants to put them first and was honest enough about wanting to wait to marry until he knows who he is and I get the feeling Sam would rather Jason took a flight back to Russia at this point than be with him.

I wish.  But the show is going to milk Sam's "conflict" for all it can.

[Cheyanne11]

2 hours ago, TVbitch said:

Jesus God already with Sam slowly teeter-walking through her scenes, dressed like a matronly zombie, and speaking in hushed "delivering a eulogy" tones.  

I'm waiting for a sweeps reveal that she's been a tranqulizer addict for years. 

Man, those Sam/Carly scenes were just awful.  Sorry, show, I don't buy for one hot minute these two are besties.  What's more: having Carly uttered "I'm on YOUR side" is such bullshit that earned her another strike of lightning from the great beyond.  Funnily enough, the one person who doesn't seem to give a crap if Sam goes back to Jason is Sonny--which makes total sense, as he wants his "right hand man" at his beck and call 24/7.  They should just get him a trundle bed so they're literally never more than arm's reach away from each other.

[dubbel zout]

Ugh, the Franco/Elizabeth stuff was brutal. He's such an emotional infant: "I'm afraid you won't love me/I knowJason will turn you against me/I don't want Jake to have a relationship with his father." 

So when Carly said you can be in love with two people at the same time but be with the one who gets you to your toes, does that mean she doesn't think Jason gets her to her toes?

I'm all for shining a light on the appalling hunger statistics in the U.S., but I really wish these writers could do it more naturally. The only time these characters talk about a cause is when the show is pimping it, so it always comes across so baldly (and badly).

3 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Funnily enough, the one person who doesn't seem to give a crap if Sam goes back to Jason is Sonny--which makes total sense, as he wants his "right hand man" at his beck and call 24/7.

For once, Sonny is right. It's none of his business if Sam goes back to Jason. Someone needs to tell Carly to butt out of this and let Sam/Jason/Drew figure things out on their own. 

If André put all the info on the flash drive, he had to copy it from somewhere, right? Or did he say he then erased it?

[TheGourmez]

Still a few days behind, but after having now seen both Sarah Brown and Tamara Braun on this show in different roles, I can unequivocally say that yes, it's always been the character of Carly that I hate and not the actresses' portrayals. NULOCH

UO, but if Roger Howarth were playing a character other than Franco, I think I'd dig a pairing between his and Becky's characters. Sadly, that is not what we've been served.

I may be...glad?...that Steve Burton has returned because it's finally freeing Billy Miller from having to play Jason at all. Now if Burton could just go away again, we wouldn't need to bother with the character at all anymore. A girl can dream.

[Asp Burger]

On 12/17/2017 at 0:57 PM, dubbel zout said:

The Man with Two Brains! One of my all-time favorite movies. "Into the mud, scum queen!"

I routinely turn on General Hospital and say, in the most disdainful tone possible, "What are those azaleas doing on my show?" 

Edited December 19, 2017 by Asp Burger

[Asp Burger]

I am late as usual, so the weird logistics of the Monday show have been covered, for the most part. Jason should not need to call Robin to get Anna's number, for one thing, but then you wonder why he needed a phone number at all. They could have just done the soap-standard knock at the door the next time we were at the "Anna's house" set, and have Jason standing there. Maybe milk some tension by having Finn answer the door. (Have those two actors interacted at all, with Easton as this character? Or his six earlier ones, for that matter?)

Then, as noted above, Anna talks to Jason for 15 seconds at the restaurant, and rushes back to Ornament Donation Land. Jordan is still standing there, apparently not having moved an inch in however long it took Anna to walk an unspecified distance to meet Jason in person, and then make the same trip in reverse. I'm beginning to see why crimes never get solved in this city, if this is a typical day for the police commissioner.  

I'm tolerating Miller better as confused/adjusting Drew then I was when he was baring his fangs over being the one true Jason. He does have some pretty good chemistry with the Oscar kid, who is at his worst opposite the Josslyn actress, slightly better with adults. Their scene wasn't badly written at all.  

As for almost everything else, I can't decide whether it was terrible or the kind of "love-to-hate" writing that is one of the guilty pleasures of soaps. Look, I love Lizzie despite all her misdeeds, but I don't know if she's earned the righteous high-horsing about secrets and lies in relationships. No way does she love Franco more than she loved Original Lucky. I cannot decide about Jason. I never bought Liric. The fake-out when Franco imagined confessing the final secret was not convincing ("You're a monster! Jason was right!").  

"Soulmate"? Oh, cram it, Carly. You and Sam aren't Jen and Joey on Dawson's Creek.

Carly's wackiest line was when she said that everyone is wringing their hands over Drew and no one is giving a thought to what Jason is going through. More than anything else she said, that made me wonder what universe she is living in. Who, other than Sam, is being excessively solicitous toward Drew? Pretty much the only other people in his corner are Monica (who is neutral) and Curtis (who never knew Actual Jason), and now maybe Tamara Braun and Oscar, but it's not as though Carly is following that story.  

However, I've watched enough to know that Carly's stupid point of view always gets validated. Let's just fast forward to the part where Drew gets his memories back and Sam walks in on him ravishing Tamara Braun on the conference table at Aurora Media, and/or he turns into a ruthless mogul who does things that nag at Sam's conscience in a way that Jason's killing for hire never did.  

Edited December 19, 2017 by Asp Burger

[sunnyface]

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Now if Burton could just go away again, we wouldn't need to bother with the character at all anymore. A girl can dream.

At least Maurice has made a slight improvement in the delivery of his lines since Jason's return.

Is it my DVR, or is there a NON- Sonny/Jason-centric scene that is cut-out from the beginning segment of the show?

Edited December 19, 2017 by sunnyface
Sonny

[movingtargetgal]

I think Sonny really wants Sam to stay with Drew.  This was he and Carly can have Jason to themselves without Sam and the children being in the way.  He is helping Jason get to the bottom of the kidnapping/brain mapping so Jason can start to fully focus on him and the business. Sonny just wants what is best for him and his business.

[tveyeonyou]

17 hours ago, Blackie said:

I wish Sam would just say that the sex is better with Drew so she's good where she is at.  Surely they didn't implant Jason"s memories of "his moves" into Drew, so the sex is all Drew.

I've been wondering silently, hoping someone else would bring it up, so here goes, just because Jason and Drew are twins, does that mean they both have the same size, umm, man-parts? 

I mean both Liz and Sam have slept with Jason and Drew, admittedly I don't know any twins but seriously, they're both, uh, hung exactly the same? Inch for inch?

This is how bored this show has made me, I'm actually wondering if they have the same size penis (that's not the word I usually use but I'm trying to be polite and stuff lol)

[HeatLifer]

1 hour ago, tveyeonyou said:

I've been wondering silently, hoping someone else would bring it up, so here goes, just because Jason and Drew are twins, does that mean they both have the same size, umm, man-parts? 

I mean both Liz and Sam have slept with Jason and Drew, admittedly I don't know any twins but seriously, they're both, uh, hung exactly the same? Inch for inch?

This is how bored this show has made me, I'm actually wondering if they have the same size penis (that's not the word I usually use but I'm trying to be polite and stuff lol)

LMAO. I love this post. I needed this post.

[Melgaypet]

Oh god. This takes me back to the OLTL TWoP boards when Todd Manning was recast (this eventually turned into the Tale of Two Todds story). Anyway, the story was that “Todd” had had plastic surgery and was wooing his ex-wife under his new identity. There were many jokes about whether that plastic surgery extended to his penis.

[tveyeonyou]

1 hour ago, HeatLifer said:

LMAO. I love this post. I needed this post.

Lol, I needed your reply, thank you, I was in so much need of a laugh and your response had me laughing so hard one of my cats fell off the top of the sofa! 

21 minutes ago, Melgaypet said:

Oh god. This takes me back to the OLTL TWoP boards when Todd Manning was recast (this eventually turned into the Tale of Two Todds story). Anyway, the story was that “Todd” had had plastic surgery and was wooing his ex-wife under his new identity. There were many jokes about whether that plastic surgery extended to his penis.

I feel better about going there now, lol, I mainly stuck to Buffy and TFGH over at TWoP so I'm happy to know I'm not the only one who thinks about, well, "things" lol

[LexieLily]

Tomorrow: Kevin is going to ask Dante to be his best man? Have they talked one-on-one, ever? Couldn't they have paid the actor that plays Mac one extra day? Kevin has friends!

[Cheyanne11]

10 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

Carly's wackiest line was when she said that everyone is wringing their hands over Drew and no one is giving a thought to what Jason is going through. More than anything else she said, that made me wonder what universe she is living in. Who, other than Sam, is being excessively solicitous toward Drew? Pretty much the only other people in his corner are Monica (who is neutral) and Curtis (who never knew Actual Jason), and now maybe Tamara Braun and Oscar, but it's not as though Carly is following that story.  

However, I've watched enough to know that Carly's stupid point of view always gets validated. Let's just fast forward to the part where Drew gets his memories back and Sam walks in on him ravishing Tamara Braun on the conference table at Aurora Media, and/or he turns into a ruthless mogul who does things that nag at Sam's conscience in a way that Jason's killing for hire never did.  

Next week on GH: Jason offers a shoulder to cry on when Sam's whole world is shattered when she finds out Drew once went to the 10 items or less lane with 15.  

[Perkie]

Don't know if it's an American thing, so as a Canadian I apologize if it is, but do people generally walk around with large dossier/files with their loved ones medical records?  Is there some database where you can anyone's ECG results or lab test results or history of that surgery they had when they nine or whether they had a non cancerous mole removed when they were twenty six.  Is that a thing?

 

I loved the JaSam/DrewSam/Danny scenes.  That kid is a little sweety and I found it interesting that his reaction was different than Jake's when he was told.  

Why is Stella sitll here?  And why is she still being a biatch.

Were they chem testing Kiki and Griffin today?  She's crying because Dillon's not coming home for xmas and her course load is wacky hard.  So he pulls out a kleenex to wipe away her tears and gives her a pep talk.  I like kiki but I like GrifAva, so I don't really want that messed up.  Also why aren't we getting more Kiki stories.  HE has turned into a pretty decent actress and I'd much rather see story for her than for Nelle.  

[Linny]

I spent the majority of the episode annoyed (go away, Julian, learn some manners, Stella, and asking a kid to shake hands, Jason, really?) but I was revived by Sam kneeling to propose to Drew. That's easily the most life she's shown in months. It was an authentic gesture prompted by her acknowledgment that Drew is a devoted partner and father, and whatever happened in his past has no bearing on her feelings for him. It doesn't matter that he's not Jason, it doesn't matter what he did as Drew, the man standing before her is who she loves and that's all she needs to know. This is the moment she chose Drew on his own merit and that's why this is the moment they'll always remember. I'm not sure how GH tricked me into getting invested in Sam and Drew, but here I am, consequences be damned. 

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, Melgaypet said:

Oh god. This takes me back to the OLTL TWoP boards when Todd Manning was recast (this eventually turned into the Tale of Two Todds story). Anyway, the story was that “Todd” had had plastic surgery and was wooing his ex-wife under his new identity. There were many jokes about whether that plastic surgery extended to his penis.

Blair actually had a discussion about that with RoHo's Todd, I think, because he asked her how she couldn't tell it wasn't him. It wasn't done in a slimy fashion. GH would make it some sniggering comment and it would be gross.

If Lauren made a sale at the gallery, I hope Ava gives her at least some of the commission.

"I don't want you to have to choose between us." Then don't make Ava choose, Griffin. 

Really, Show? We're having Lauren consider throwing away a possible medical career for Dillon Quartermaine? Ugh.

[TessHarding2]

27 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Tomorrow: Kevin is going to ask Dante to be his best man? Have they talked one-on-one, ever? Couldn't they have paid the actor that plays Mac one extra day? Kevin has friends!

Not that these writers would know or care, but Felicia had lots of horny sex with Luke, so maybe Felicia and Mac won't be at Laura and Kevin's wedding.  Laura and Felicia had major bitch fight jealousy scenes when you didn't see women on GH claw for their man.  On AMC, but not GH.

I'm home today and I love coming back to watch when I'm completely clueless as to any story line.  I see SB is back.  He's too old to be still looking like he's from a 90's boy band.  Alexis hair same, check. Sam in a stretchy cold shoulder top, check.  Ava, well, I'll never understand her purpose on the show.  Britney is there  again? And they still kept Olbrecht on.  It's all so odd to me.

[Sake614]

1 hour ago, tveyeonyou said:

one of my cats fell off the top of the sofa! 

kitten abuse! That's what this show has come down to....kitten abuse! Can we report it to the Humane Society and get better writers? ;)

[dubbel zout]

Wow, Stella was astoundingly rude to Jordan about the housewarming gift. If the two pieces are supposed to be a pair, why is she splitting them up? It's not like Stella received two Instant Pots. Ugh. As always, poor Vernee Watson-Johnson.

The teary nod of thanks between Jason and Drew left me in stitches. Oh, those noble men and their noble feelings.

Will Danny's life change that much now that he knows Jason is his father? He's still going to live with Sam and Drew, I presume. Drew isn't being cut out of his life, and I don't see Jason being that much more active in Danny's life just because the news is out.

[LillyB]

I really prefer Sam with Drew; she deserves a man who will put her and her kids first.

[ulkis]

Why was Sam crying this time? Seriously, I don't know. I just saw her crying, wasn't paying much attention.

Nice close up of the files/Nathan's bottom pec there.

I liked Jordan's ensemble today. Could she and Ava be friends anyway? They have good chemistry.

[HeatLifer]

2 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Why was Sam crying this time?

Someone must have called her small and strong and beautiful!

[GHScorpiosRule]

36 minutes ago, Perkie said:

Don't know if it's an American thing, so as a Canadian I apologize if it is, but do people generally walk around with large dossier/files with their loved ones medical records?  Is there some database where you can anyone's ECG results or lab test results or history of that surgery they had when they nine or whether they had a non cancerous mole removed when they were twenty six.  Is that a thing?

No! It is definitely not an American thing! It's a FAKAKTA GH thing.

[ulkis]

1 hour ago, LexieLily said:

Tomorrow: Kevin is going to ask Dante to be his best man? Have they talked one-on-one, ever? Couldn't they have paid the actor that plays Mac one extra day? Kevin has friends!

Yeah, they have, but he still shouldn't be asking Dante to be his best man, if that's what it is.

 

27 minutes ago, TessHarding2 said:

Britney is there  again? And they still kept Olbrecht on.  It's all so odd to me.

Britt is only around for a couple of episodes. 

Speaking of, who is charging her if Nikolas is dead?

[IWantCandy71]

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I see SB is back.  He's too old to be still looking like he's from a 90's boy band

LOL ! Jason and Sam are both old to play grandparents now, I wish they'd SORAS their brats just because it would make me laugh to read about Sam's grown kids having to tell their kids that grandma fell down the stairs wearing heels. AGAIN.

[ulkis]

42 minutes ago, Perkie said:

Also why aren't we getting more Kiki stories.  HE has turned into a pretty decent actress and I'd much rather see story for her than for Nelle.  

I think they're getting there (story for Kiki) slowly. I don't know how good of an actress I think she is but ever since she got a haircut I like her lol.

[MarciNJ]

Kiki/Griffin?  Not that I'm in favor of any more Kiki, but would be a nice karmic slap in the face to Ava if Kiki ended up with him....

 

These Toy for Tots gifts - I'm all in favor of donating to things like that, and in the past, they have done the same thing but the boxes of unwrapped gifts were in the hospital.  Not OUTDOORS, in a park, probably near the docks where all kinds of criminals hang out.   In what reality would these gifts not get stolen?  Does the PCPD have enough manpower to keep someone watching the box of toys 24/7?

[dubbel zout]

5 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Speaking of, who is charging her if Nikolas is dead?

The DA, the person responsible for that sort of thing. It drives me crazy when the victim says s/he'll press charges. That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

[ulkis]

3 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

The DA, the person responsible for that sort of thing. It drives me crazy when the victim says s/he'll press charges. That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.

I know it's b.s. when the local cop says he shot himself when he obviously did not, and the charges get dropped, but wasn't sure in Britt's case. I forget the details.

[YaddaYadda]

The whole Sam/Drew/Jason/Dany was well done. Dany is a sweet kid and I think his reaction was appropriate for his age. 

Honestly, I'm just shocked that everyone is behaving like adults after the initial let's find out who's who and getting along and trying to do the right thing. I thought Jason and Drew would go months without speaking to each other and one would snarl while the other looked like he was trying to pass kidney stone.

[dubbel zout]

6 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I'm just shocked that everyone is behaving like adults after the initial let's find out who's who and getting along and trying to do the right thing.

Everyone except Carly, of course.

[MarciNJ]

yeah, those Carly scenes were painful to watch yesterday.  And Sam - has she been drugged?  What is up with her affect lately?  Between Sam's zombie-like behavior, and Carly's stupid giggling and pretending to be besties..... ugh, just.....  ugh

 

OH, and who is doing hair/makeup for Maxie and Lulu?  Both very pretty women but both have been looking awful.  I think Maxie may have borrowed Nelle's lipstick.....

[YaddaYadda]

8 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Everyone except Carly, of course.

That goes without saying.

[ulkis]

56 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

Someone must have called her small and strong and beautiful!

oh my God, when you wrote this I hadnt realized Drew actually called her "small and mighty". lol.