Episode Discussion: TFGH

[movingtargetgal]

 

Sonny's face looked disturbingly aroused when Anna was describing how she shot Carlos four times. If they weren't on a plane, he probably would have popped into the kitchen to cook up some of his famous seduction linguine.

Sonny always becomes aroused at any hint of mob violence.

[Francie]

I thought it could have been funny honestly, but MB's delivery of it was bad.

Agreed. It's like he deliberately didn't want to land the joke. I wonder if Maurice felt like that would cheapen the scene.

[ulkis]

Agreed. It's like he deliberately didn't want to land the joke. I wonder if Maurice felt like that would cheapen the scene.

Maybe, but I think it was fine though. Sonny is aware of the irony. (It is irony, right? I get that confused sometimes, heh)

[ciarra]

Explain to me like I'm Sonny --  why Paul, who was only handcuffed by one hand, couldn't have ripped the duct tape off his mouth with his free hand and shouted for help when Andre was there? 

 

Short trip to Ecuador, or chloroform lasts a long time. 

 

Way to go around incriminating yourself, Anna.  Why don't you just take out an ad in Julian's news rag if you're going to admit your crimes to Sonny, of all people.

 

Kudos to set decor, and the 20 bucks they spent at Staples print center, getting half a dozen bullfighting posters with "Ecuador" written on them to tape on the wall, so it wouldn't look like Sonny and his informant were standing around a parking lot in L.A.  If only Carlos were hiding in Mexico -- they could have dragged out the sombreros and maracas. 

[tvgoddess]

LOL at Sonny in the parking lot. Way to go on location, Show.

 

The rest of the show was crap, but that made me laugh so hard so good job, Show. That part where Sonny is turned around looking at the posters, UCG!  Never let it be said that Frank doesn't go to the absolute cheapest lengths available. Bonus points for using the GH parking lot.

 

When Laura was extolling Nik's virtues(!) and saying all the things he did for his brother, I shouted back "like sleeping with said brother's fiancée?"

[HeatLifer]

When Laura was extolling Nik's virtues(!) and saying all the things he did for his brother, I shouted back "like sleeping with said brother's fiancée?"

Laura got jokes!

[In2You]

I get all twitchy when Mykill talks about his concern for Sabrina and her "bayayaybee". His midwestern Chicago accent is so annoying--and always causes a faint memory of Hillary Clinton's accent--but I digress. I thought even he knew that the bayayaybee is probably Carlos's. So I conclude that the constant annoying pricks of pain upon hearing Sabrina's name are Show's way of reminding us that "Yes Sabrina is coming back one day." It's a threat and a promise that I find irritating and a bit depressing.

Chad Duell was born in Chicago but he grew up in Arizona. He doesn't have a midwest accent that's a southwest one. 

[stlbf]

Oh Carlos. More shooting, less talking!

[Lillybee]

I am surprised that every time that Sonny enters a church or chapel that lightning doesn't come down and strike him dead. I refuse to think that God is on his side.

Edited April 12, 2016 by Lillybee

[Chairperson Meow]

The only two things I liked about the show today were Gangsta Father Carrlos and Tracy.

That's it. Jason needs to start wearing suits or something. Yawn.

[peachmangosteen]

Explain to me like I'm Sonny --  why Paul, who was only handcuffed by one hand, couldn't have ripped the duct tape off his mouth with his free hand and shouted for help when Andre was there? 

 

I'm pretty sure that at the time Andre was there Paul was still unconscious-ish from the chloroform. Also, I am fairly sure he actually had both hands handcuffed because I kept wondering how the hell Anna thought giving him water was gonna do any good since he wouldn't have been able to get it anyway. This show is so fucking stupid.

 

When Laura was extolling Nik's virtues(!) and saying all the things he did for his brother, I shouted back "like sleeping with said brother's fiancée?"

 

Same! I literally said out loud to my tv, "What has Nik done for Lucky besides fuck his wife?" What a stupid line.

 

Okay who do I have to pay and how much to make sure Carlos pulls the trigger and shoots Sonny in the head??!

 

Now there's the type of gratuitous violence that would make me wanna get right to fucking my amnesiac husband!

Edited April 12, 2016 by peachmangosteen

[Bawoman]

Nik is a whiny dumbass, and him having his guilt-ridden-because-she-left-him-as-a-baby mother constantly whipping his ass isn't doing him any favors either. If you want to make someone more sympathetic, show him truly alone with no one to turn to, don't have every character in his circle pander and coddle and throw lie after lie around about how good he is (save for Jason, bless him) ,while treating his real victim like trash. I like that Hayden seems to give so little fucks about what Laura thinks of her, but I honestly am going to need at least one scene where she fires back, something along the lines of "Well, at least I never raised a murderer.....oh wait, you didn't either".

Edited April 12, 2016 by Bawoman

[KerleyQ]

Sonny's face looked disturbingly aroused when Anna was describing how she shot Carlos four times. If they weren't on a plane, he probably would have popped into the kitchen to cook up some of his famous seduction linguine.

 

"How fast can we get this plane to my island?"  

[Mrs OldManBalls]

Saw on Twitter that JVP is live tweeting today's episode if any of you are interested. 

 

Bye Carlos, you will be missed ( by me at least). It's too bad Sonny wins over everyone every time. The show could have done a lot with you.

(I'm assuming that Carlos dies again)

 

JVP? You did a great job with the character; you infused Carlos with a lot of charisma, passion and love (for Sabrina. And crime I guess). I hope you move on to greater success! 

[Cheyanne11]

Bye Carlos, you will be missed ( by me at least). It's too bad Sonny wins over everyone every time. The show could have done a lot with you.

(I'm assuming that Carlos dies again)

 

JVP? You did a great job with the character; you infused Carlos with a lot of charisma, passion and love (for Sabrina. And crime I guess). I hope you move on to greater success! 

It's too bad Carlos will have to give a 10 minute sililoquy to Sonny as to exactly why he must kill him, thus insuring someone will come in and save the day.  Seriously, first lesson in Hit Man College should be 'less talking, more shooting.'

[dubbel zout]

I am fairly sure he actually had both hands handcuffed

I think only one hand was cuffed, because Paul was able to push Anna's mail onto the floor and find the paperclip to free himself. Oh, Anna. Foiled by a paperclip!

[mybabyaidan]

If Jason buys the shares from Nik tomorrow, I doubt Jason & Sam hold on to them. Hey, maybe they give them all to Tracy! I know, I'm dreaming.

Yeah Jason has said repeatedly he is doing this for the q's....he's not going to keep it.

Did I miss when Hayden threatened Liz and Laura? I don't remember that happening. So either I missed it, they cut it, or Nikolas is embellishing to make himself look like a martyr. Asshole. I hope Sam tells him that after this they are done.

[Francie]

Explain to me like I'm Sonny --  why Paul, who was only handcuffed by one hand, couldn't have ripped the duct tape off his mouth with his free hand and shouted for help when Andre was there? 

 

 

Kudos to set decor, and the 20 bucks they spent at Staples print center, getting half a dozen bullfighting posters with "Ecuador" written on them to tape on the wall, so it wouldn't look like Sonny and his informant were standing around a parking lot in L.A.  If only Carlos were hiding in Mexico -- they could have dragged out the sombreros and maracas. 

The rest of the show was crap, but that made me laugh so hard so good job, Show. That part where Sonny is turned around looking at the posters, UCG!  Never let it be said that Frank doesn't go to the absolute cheapest lengths available. Bonus points for using the GH parking lot.

 

 

 

With the way the posters were placed, overlapping each other, were they actually covering up the "General Hospital" sign? Oh show, so cheap. 

 

If the show wants to go that cheap, just make it a show about actors on a soap and film them on an undressed stage, in their dressing rooms, etc.

 

I'll have to re-watch the Friday Anna and Paul scenes to see.  Maybe I'll have to fanwank that he was groggy from the chloroform. Or maybe we are to assume that Anna recuffed him. Though, she didn't have a second cuff .... oh, I give up. Helena.

 

 

I think only one hand was cuffed, because Paul was able to push Anna's mail onto the floor and find the paperclip to free himself. Oh, Anna. Foiled by a paperclip!

 

Yep, only his right hand was cuffed to the staircase.

[TeeVee329]

Did I miss when Hayden threatened Liz and Laura? I don't remember that happening. So either I missed it, they cut it, or Nikolas is embellishing to make himself look like a martyr. Asshole. I hope Sam tells him that after this they are done.

 

I do think she made some noise last week when she first blackmailed Nikolas about implicating Liz at the very least.

[jsbt]

So here's an idle thought: Curtis has the same problem as Shawn before him - skin color. He's great, and with a dude that charismatic he could have anyone on this show but as usual, 25 years after Shemar Moore, today's soaps have no clue what to do with a man of color with sexual agency. I know the performer has talked about wanting to be "the black Luke Spencer," sort of an adventurous rogue, which is a noble model and a character sketch he fits well. But it's never gonna happen here because neither FV nor these writers nor the network as it's been have any interest in writing substantively for black characters on daytime.

 

Same thing with Andre, who has real chemistry with Anna. Or poor Valerie who could've been more than what she's become. (Jordan I'm just over.) And don't get me started on T.J.

[godfreydaniels]

I love Genie Francis, just wish they would find her more to do rather than prop up Nicholas and the youngsters. 

[ulkis]

Or poor Valerie who could've been more than what she's become. 

 

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh. I guess she could have become more than "mostly hated character" so I guess you're right. I honestly don't think Sarpy is that great though.  (although yes I know neither are any of the other actors in her age range). If they're reluctant to let her have a pairing with dimestore Dillon because of her color though that's ridiculous. He's there, doing nothing! Hook them up!

 

The crappiest thing about what they (haven't done) with TJ is they weren't willing to give him anything but they kept TR on contract for 3 and a half years because they knew he was good and didn't want anyone else to have him but weren't willing to let anyone else have him.

Edited April 12, 2016 by ulkis

[jsbt]

No, she's not that great. But I don't think she's without talent, and the character could've been more. Could still in time. (And no, Dillion is not the answer.)

 

Was TR really on contract that long? I wasn't under the impression he was.

[ulkis]

No, she's not that great. But I don't think she's without talent, and the character could've been more. Could still in time. (And no, Dillion is not the answer.)

 

Was TR really on contract that long? I wasn't under the impression he was.

 

Yes, I'm pretty sure he was on contract as soon as he came on but I could be wrong. 

 

I mean, I am no fan of Dillon but people seem to think they have chemistry. Who knows, stranger things have worked.

[LeftPhalange]

Val is less worthless than Kiki, so that's something. 

[dubbel zout]

You can seamlessly lift them both right out, as you can the vast majority of the cast. The writers are so terrible.

[jsbt]

Is Scott seriously supposed to be Ava's bodyguard? 60-year-old lawyer/cruise director Scott?

[LeftPhalange]

Is Scott seriously supposed to be Ava's bodyguard? 60-year-old lawyer/cruise director Scott?

 

Listen, you don't have to do him like that. Franco is his son, he's already suffering enough.

[jsbt]

This isn't the first or last time I have referred or will refer to Scott as the cruise director of the Love Boat. That's what his wardrobe looks like and we all know it.

[Oracle42]

Were JP/SA the ones who made Summer Newman the center of the Y&R teen scene despite the fact that she was arguably the least interesting person in that group?

If so, I can't imagine they're going to stop trying to make Kiki happen.

Edited April 12, 2016 by Oracle42

[TeeVee329]

It is insane that they're still trying to make Kiki, and that she's the only female character in her age group on contract and, excepting Kristina and the barely seen Molly, on the show period.

[jsbt]

They're too lazy and disinterested to use Lynn Herring in any substantive way so that precludes adding Lucy's mythical daughters. Yeah, I know she's coming back. I have no expectations for that and I'm pretty sure they're going to try some

Kevin and Laura thing

which rivals any of Ron's vet backburner subplot triangles for sheer fuckery.

Edited April 12, 2016 by jsbt

[CreamedPeas]

Is it just me or is it overkill, pun intended, that so much of the violence on this show takes place in Catholic churches?

[dubbel zout]

Oh, Father Carlos. JUST SHOOT SONNY.

Edited April 12, 2016 by dubbel zout

[CreamedPeas]

I'm in the minority here but I LOVED that Nicholas got to tell Hayden that she is screwed and doesn't get ELQ stocks!!! Ha!

I also never thought I'd like any other actor as Jason but I really like the actor playing him now. I like smart ass Jason. :)

[TeeVee329]

Did I miss something?  How does selling the ELQ shares get Nikolas out from under Rebecca Budig's blackmail?  And I still think there's a rewrite going on there, with Rebecca Budig seemingly being over the situation.

 

I did appreciate, however, when Nikolas sneered that the money they were offering was way less than their worth, Jason mentioned how it was still more money than the Quartermaines he and his collaborators blackmailed and manipulated out of their shares got.  

 

Oh Carrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrlos, you made the classic soap villain mistake of being theatrical and monologue-y instead of just putting a bullet between the person's eyes when you get the drop on them.

 

That line Paul said about having to constantly "save Anna from herself" was gross.

 

What was the point of Franco and Carly's bitchfest?

Edited April 12, 2016 by TeeVee329

[amaranta]

Kudos to set decor, and the 20 bucks they spent at Staples print center, getting half a dozen bullfighting posters with "Ecuador" written on them to tape on the wall

 

And apparently there are only so many Spanish surnames in the world.  On the posters, the bullfighters names were Santiago and Rivera.  Unless they were trying to be all cute and meta. If so, fail!

 

Oh Anna.  *sigh*

[Harmony233]

Speaking of Scotty are they going to let him find out that Hayden is the daughter of Raymond Berlin?

[dubbel zout]

There was a hilarious lack of self-awareness in Sonny's sniping at Carlos. If only Carlos has said he was rubber and Sonny was glue.

[Bawoman]

Yay! The attempted murderer triumphed over his victim!!!! Nik finally won out over the woman who's brains he had blown out over money. Doesn't that just give evryone the fussy wuzzies? I think it's absolutely heartwarming that the man who had a bullet put in the head of someone daring to tell the truth got money for all his troubles whileshe gets nothing.
Fuck you show. Really, show. Fuck You.
Hayden maybe didn't deserve ELQ, but that piece of shit Nikolas should never be the winner over her, or be made too look like the hero as he is now. It's fucking nauseating, 

[TeeVee329]

I still don't understand why Rebecca Budig couldn't turn around and say, "Fine, you can't give me ELQ.  I still have this evidence against you so I'll take whatever you got and you can go ahead and start selling your stuff."

[Oracle42]

Wasn't she also supposed to be blackmailing him for cash?

[RedheadZombie]

God help me, I found Carlos pretty hot. I didn't realize I liked my men greasy haired, ponytailed, gun brandishing priests. I need help.

[Bawoman]

I still don't understand why Rebecca Budig couldn't turn around and say, "Fine, you can't give me ELQ.  I still have this evidence against you so I'll take whatever you got and you can go ahead and start selling your stuff."

In the next episode, she'll probably be back to being in love with him and they'll use that as the explanation**gently bumps head on desk**

[TeeVee329]

I dunno, they seem to be leaning into Rebecca Budig and Curtis, with Valerie getting all jelly after seeing them today.

[dubbel zout]

Wow, Nik is a sore loser. His whole reason to take ELQ stock was to protect Spencer, and the instant money is actually in Spencer's name, suddenly Jason is the big baddie? Ugh. I knew the Spencer angle was Nik trying to justify his horrible behavior, but sheesh. Take it like an adult. Underhandedness isn't just for you, Nik.

 

Of all the romantic rivalries I don't want to see, Valerie/Curtis/Rebecca Budig is way up there.

[TeeVee329]

Wow, Nik is a sore loser. His whole reason to take ELQ stock was to protect Spencer, and the instant money is actually in Spencer's name, suddenly Jason is the big baddie? Ugh. I knew the Spencer angle was Nik trying to justify his horrible behavior, but sheesh. Take it like an adult. Underhandedness isn't just for you, Nik.

 

Seriously, he is the fucking worst.  Getting all bent out of shape that he's being blackmailed into returning the company he obtained BY BLACKMAILING PEOPLE? 

 

And gawd, then trying to shade Jason by invoking Emily.  Dude, you fucked over the family she loved, her name shouldn't even come out of your mouth!

Edited April 12, 2016 by TeeVee329

[ulkis]

Oh Carrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrlos, you made the classic soap villain mistake of being theatrical and monologue-y instead of just putting a bullet between the person's eyes when you get the drop on them.

 

His "and just when you say amen, I'm gonna put a bullet in your head" sounded like the beginning of a musical number.

 

I laughed at his little "oh darn" face when Sonny said, "what about Sabriiina?"

 

Also, what's Carlos talking about. No where in that prayer did Sonny say "I'm so sorry".

 

What was the point of Franco and Carly's bitchfest?

 

Laura Wright's contract minimum? She's really getting nothing nowadays.

 

ER and DZ must have felt like high schoolers out in the local park recording a project for sex ed class or something.

 

Come on Valerie, that wasn't even a hug. She should know from experience that you only have to worry when encounters become fully-armed.

[Mrs OldManBalls]

They're too lazy and disinterested to use Lynn Herring in any substantive way so that precludes adding Lucy's mythical daughters. Yeah, I know she's coming back. I have no expectations for that and I'm pretty sure they're going to try some

Kevin and Laura thing

which rivals any of Ron's vet backburner subplot triangles for sheer fuckery.

 

As fantastically in shape as Lynn Herring is, I'm pretty much over seeing Lucy in her underwear every Nurses Ball. 

 

That spoiler? It's anti-chemistry! But I'm glad it has nothing to do with Sonny! 

[rur]

God help me, I found Carlos pretty hot. I didn't realize I liked my men greasy haired, ponytailed, gun brandishing priests. I need help.

 

C'mon over here and sit with me at the Weakness for Scruffy Guys table. I thought he looked pretty damn good, too.

 

Maybe it's because JVP actually commits to his role. He seems alive; he doesn't mumble; he doesn't rub his chin and say stupid godfatherish things; and he didn't look orange, either. 

 

As much as I'd like him to survive, I'm afraid he's a goner (although I'd love to see him as a recurring character that took over the Jerome empire and f**ks with Sonny from the safety of his offshore hideout). 

 

But, did I hear him admit to shooting Sonny in the warehouse? After we all saw someone else do it? Aw, geez, show . . . shame.