Episode Discussion: TFGH

[yowsah1]

Patrick looked half-asleep and spoke in a monotone, uninterested voice during what was, I'm assuming, supposed to be a romantic, loving proposal. He doesn't look deeply in love.

 

Ladies and gentleman, what GH thinks passes for Emmy-nomination-worthy acting.

 

I'd say, "Wake me up when JT wakes up", except I'd be in danger of sleeping for 100 years, like Rip van Winkle.

[Sake614]

Is Molly still in her room? And if not, why is TJ in alexis' house alone? He lives at Casa Corinthos. And if Molly is in her room, it must be soundproof for her to not hear all the noise downstairs.

[Mrs OldManBalls]

Damn it, Richard Burgi! You will lose! But at least you'll look stylish and handsome while doing so.

 

He's Alcazar 2.0, isn't he? *sigh*

I'm going to fully enjoy him on the show while it lasts. 

[dubbel zout]

Alexis should have clocked Morgan with a vase over the head or something. 

 

Molly should dump TJ because he was okay with Morgan getting revenge by killing someone, not because her mom might get caught in the crossfire.

 

When Carly talked about Morgan being unable to last in college because he's weaker, I half expected Jake to say he'd be happy to go to jail to protect him.

 

When Tracy was looking at the ceiling while Maxie was yapping away, I could only think JE was wishing she were anywhere but there.

[IWantCandy71]

Nearly lost my lunch when Tracy covered up for Luke again today, hinting at some specialness he had as a lover. Though sophisticated and mature in years and life experience, Tracy is like a teenage girl when a man looks at her longer than 5 seconds. Her desperation for positive male attention makes her extremely vulnerable to vile men with agendas. It would be so refreshing to see her hook up with a gentle, loyal, honest man who by treasuring her would awaken a healthy self-love and growth.

 

What did she say that hinted at that? I guess I missed it. She just said Paul and Luke were nothing alike-but I took that as Paul is a straight laced "suit" type and Luke is not.

 

NLG's screaming when running out of the cabin was unintentional comedy. All the twitter mess aside, she's never impressed me as an actress-moments like that prove why.

[NutmegsDad]

Alexis steps in front of Julian and dares Morgan to shoot Krissy's mom.

 

Or Virgina Chance sneaks up behind Morgan and knocks him out on the head with a 1970s portable TV.

 

I would have accepted both yesterday, but very disappointed.

 

Oh, Paul, if even Julian, Cesar and Fluke could not defeat Sonny as the Man Behind the Curtain, why do you think you can win on The Sonny Show?

[One Tough Cookie]

Morgan is the Emperor of the Stupid Little Shits, where as TJ is just the Crown Prince.

 

 

Make that CLOWN prince!

[sunnyface]

Dear FV and Writers:  You have all of these middle-aged decent actors (julian, ava, franco, jason, nina and now Paul) that could have easily been cast as doctors on a show called 'General HOSPITAL'.  Instead, this show has to slog through the morass of a show centered on a violent, useless, and drain of a character portrayed by a not-pleasing-on-the-eyes middle-aged actor who can't even spit out his lines.  His show family obviously worships him because he affords them screentime.

PLEASE MAKE IT STOP!

[BestestAuntEver]

Oh, Paul, if even Julian, Cesar and Fluke could not defeat Sonny as the Man Behind the Curtain, why do you think you can win on The Sonny Show?

Yeah, it appears the show is back to having Sonny the good mobster battling against the newsest evilist evil that ever eviled ever year.

No thanks. This Scorpio deck is nice and there are great people here on the barge.

[ulkis]

He's Alcazar 2.0, isn't he? *sigh*

I'm going to fully enjoy him on the show while it lasts. 

 

No. Richard Burgi is charismatic and is a better actor. :p :runs:

 

I'm not a Ted King fan, as you can gather. :)

 

Wasn't Alcazar on the show for quite a while? So if GH doesn't get cancelled, who knows, maybe he will stick around for a bit. The could make Sonny Paul's son and then shooting him will be forgiven!

 

:

[ciarra]

 

Oh, Paul, if even Julian, Cesar and Fluke could not defeat Sonny as the Man Behind the Curtain, why do you think you can win on The Sonny Show?

Better yet, why bother?  What's your motivation here, Paul?  You already said you had plenty of money.  Why come to rinkydink Port Charles to take over Sonny's piece of da bidness?

[TeeVee329]

Better yet, why bother?  What's your motivation here, Paul?  You already said you had plenty of money.  Why come to rinkydink Port Charles to take over Sonny's piece of da bidness?

 

Yes, THIS.

 

We also never got any kind of real answer about why the Legion of Doom was hell bent on gaining control of ELQ.

[ch1]

But aren't you all grateful that the Qs are getting airtime?   I mean so what if Paul is villain 29852528932074839037?  He's involved with Tracy and Dillion - the Qs.  Aren't you just happy about that?  Who cares that he's probably going to wind up dead eventually by Sonny's hand.  Qs...airtime...behappyandshutyourpieholes.

[LeftPhalange]

Better yet, why bother?  What's your motivation here, Paul?  You already said you had plenty of money.  Why come to rinkydink Port Charles to take over Sonny's piece of da bidness?

 

 

Yes, THIS.

 

We also never got any kind of real answer about why the Legion of Doom was hell bent on gaining control of ELQ.

 

I love that so many people are eager to take over the ABC Family Mob in raggedy ass Port Charles. Julian and Ava lived in NYC, probably the biggest mafia epicenter in the country, yet they come to PC to takeover Sonny's gummy bear shit. 

[dubbel zout]

We also never got any kind of real answer about why the Legion of Doom was hell bent on gaining control of ELQ.

Wasn't part of it about laundering money? From what I have no idea.

[TeeVee329]

Wasn't part of it about laundering money? From what I have no idea.

 

I guess from the drug trade?  But they already had a legitimate business to funnel money through - "Derek Wells'" media empire.

[BestestAuntEver]

Better yet, why bother? What's your motivation here, Paul? You already said you had plenty of money. Why come to rinkydink Port Charles to take over Sonny's piece of da bidness?

Stupid writers??? Who don't know the show or characters history.

Really , why did wealthy Richard want to marry Neens and take her money? Or why is wealthy Scotty trying to get 5 million from Ava? Imo, it's just filler in order to get back to the All important Sonny hour.

[sunnyface]

I guess from the drug trade?

 

From the transcript (http://tvmegasite.net/transcripts/gh/older/2015/gh-trans-02-16-15.shtml} of 2/16/15's show:

 

Michael: Now, these are all Sonny's local legitimate financial holdings. He does a lot of business down in the Caribbean and South America. Rum distilleries, casinos -- those would be harder to get to, but right here in Port Charles, he owns several warehouses. He controls a block on the waterfront where he runs a coffee business.

Sabrina: {snip}

Michael: {snip}... AJ was unarmed, and Sonny shot him at point-blank range. Sonny took my father's life. And I'm gonna make him pay.

[Happywatcher]

I had to go to court for the first time in a LONG time, so I have been in DVR FF mode for a while. Watching live today, three quick observations, one question, and I am only 10 minutes in.

 

1. Maura looks older without the silly black wig. Her opening faces today, what the younger lawyers at work call "FML", sort of are how I feel about watching. Maybe it will be okay, but likely I will not like it.

 

2. At least Morgan is doing something other than looking like he needs to poop.

 

3. Why is Sonny leaning on Jackson for protection? Seriously? Given the entire crew of shooters, why?

 

Serious question, not trying to be funny or say the show is bad in a new way. When do the new show runner's storylines come into play?

[dubbel zout]

Why is Sonny leaning on Jackson for protection?

 

He will always recognize his OTP.

[ulkis]

Serious question, not trying to be funny or say the show is bad in a new way. When do the new show runner's storylines come into play?

 

Week after next, I believe.

[texastornado]

I heard they start Oct 5.

[Oracle42]

Michael: Now, these are all Sonny's local legitimate financial holdings. He does a lot of business down in the Caribbean and South America. Rum distilleries, casinos -- those would be harder to get to, but right here in Port Charles, he owns several warehouses. He controls a block on the waterfront where he runs a coffee business.

Sabrina: {snip}

Michael: {snip}... AJ was unarmed, and Sonny shot him at point-blank range. Sonny took my father's life. And I'm gonna make him pay.

Did RC ever have any intention of doing anything with this other than pairing Michael with the Glitter!Princess? He had time to write the story - it just never happened

[dubbel zout]

I bet Sabrina and Michael were paired because TeCa was pregnant IRL again, and being lazy and unable to imagine wimmins having lives outside of babies, Ron wasn't going to have his precious princess sullied with a trashy-ONS baby.

Edited September 22, 2015 by dubbel zout

[TeeVee329]

Um, excuse me Michael, but Morgan is not who stopped you from shooting Sonny.  Dante was.  And how did he do that again?  By appealing to Michael to act like a Quartermaine and not like a Corinthos.

 

But Michael today?  All Corinthos.  Just like every story, every scene, every second of this fucking show.

 

Hate.

[Bringonthedrama]

Well, Morgan certainly sounded like his daddy today - small brain, big mouth/'tough' talk about someone who's way smarter than himself. And the practically spitting in Michael's face out of disgust/disdain makes me roll my eyes again. Such a disgusting little terd. I almost thought he was going to say you're not dad's real son anyway, I am. Then whining like a little kid while holding the gun... made me hope Julian would perk up and elbow Morgan in the face. He really, really needs to be knocked unconscious. 

 

Maxie, Frisco is not your dad - I don't care that you''ll always consider Mac to be your "father." Her praise of Frisco is just bleh. Rolled my eyes too at the "would do anything to be a part of Georgie's life."  Oh well, at least Dillon and Maxie chatting is way more interesting than any Maxie and Nathan scene. He makes Maxie tolerable.

 

Interesting selective truth telling to Molly's dad there, TJ. I'm sure he'll be thrilled to eventually find out you sent Morgan after his daughter's mother and Julian.  It seems like the punk hopes Morgan actually gets to kill Julian. I did like though that Ric was pretty clear he wants to see Julian lose everything and live with that in contrast to the punk's posturing. So Molly was really resting in her room through alllll of the drama. Okay.

 

Lots of eye rolling about Liz's scared eyes, guilty looks, begging Jakeson not to step into Jason's role in Sonny and Carly's lives. That spoiler about her covering for Sonny was really exaggerated. She lamely said he was confused because of morphine. I think down the road Carly will remember Liz snapping at her that Jake is not Jason and slap her.

 

LMAO re: the preview of Sam telling Patrick (in their bed) that she can't stop thinking about Jason. 

[dubbel zout]

LMAO re: the preview of Sam telling Patrick (in their bed) that she can't stop thinking about Jason.

 

Or, another ordinary day in the Drake-McCall house. 

Edited September 22, 2015 by dubbel zout

[Bringonthedrama]

Dubbel zout - True, but to me it's particularly hilarious because of the lame-ass proposal she just got from Patrick. 

[HeatLifer]

Can someone PLEASE screengrab Jakeson and Patrick's faces in the preview? They both had the most epic "Please send help" expressions. I'm crying.

[ulkis]

I bet Sabrina and Michael were paired because TeCa was pregnant IRL again, and being lazy and unable to imagine wimmins having lives outside of babies, Ron wasn't going to have his precious princess sullied with a trashy-ONS baby.

 

Nah, I think they were already planning it already, when Sabrina and Carlos magically appeared on the boat in February.

Edited September 22, 2015 by ulkis

[CPP83]

Or, another ordinary day in the Drake-McCall house. 

 

 

Patrick: "Hey Sam? Do you know where my phone is?"

 

Sam: "I miss Jason's phone so much..."

 

Patrick: "What do you feel like getting for dinner? I was thinking Italian."

 

Sam: "Jason loved shooting up Italian restaurants...god I miss him..."

 

Patrick: "Is it your turn to fold the laundry?"

 

Sam: "I couldn't bring myself to because I saw a black tee-shirt in the wash and...oh god Jason, why??"

[dubbel zout]

Patrick: "Do you want grilled cheese sandwiches for lunch?"

Sam, stifling a sob: "That was Jason's favorite!"

 

Patrick: "Do we have an extra roll of paper towels?"

Sam, stifling a sob: "That was Jason's favorite household item!"

 

Patrick: "Where's my blue shirt?"

Sam, stifling a sob: "Jason's eyes were blue!"

Edited September 22, 2015 by dubbel zout

[movingtargetgal]

I usually love to hate on Sonny but today I couldn't look down on his "delusion" that Jake is Jason because he was on heavy pain meds.  I had emergency surgery eight weeks ago today and was on a morphine drip for several days and I kept insisting that my cats were in my hospital with me.  As I lay there I petted them, brushed them, and gave them their kitty treats.  I could even "smell" their kitty breath. It was very comforting to have them with me.  :)
 

[OnceSane]

Why the fuck is Ric back at Sam's PH? It's called a hotel, dude, look into it.

[Bill C.]

There were two things that took me right the hell out of today's episode:

1. the continuing absence of any sort of explanation for how Paul ever even knew about Scott's flashdrive, which is intentional fuckery.  And, worse, it just screws up everything else he's doing right--or mostly so, depending on how doomed you perceive him to be; he's working Tracy and Dillon, if not maliciously?  Fine.  He's charmed Mayor Lomax into making him the new DA?  Great.  But how could he know about this?  As charismatic as Richard Burgi is, and as leggy as Maura West was in that short robe, I just can't let that one go.  It's my Jake explanation, I guess.

2. Michael kicking Julian.  Even if, contextually, trying to get in a verbal jab at the guy who had a gun to your head barely a minute after his brother talked him down was immensely dumb (but so very Julian--at least he's consistent)...that was SUPER INTENTIONAL FUCKERY in the name of ensuring that Michael will at least briefly end up running Sonny's operations (again?), and it nearly drove me to another of dubbel zout's rage blackouts.

 

The rest of the episode, honestly, was just soothing white noise compared to that.  Nobody else did anything egregiously weird, though I couldn't help wondering if Maxie and Dillon's commiserations over bad parentage are a lead-in to their getting it on down the line.  Okay, and I kind of wanted somebody to run in and slap TJ, but that's normal now.

[ulkis]

I lol'ed at Sonny's calling for Jason when Carly and Jason were in the hallway.

 

Morgan: You let Julian parade you around town on a leash!

 

Morgan: You only stopped to talk to dad just to spit on him!

 

Uh, like you did for more than several months, Morgan? And is bi-polar causing him to spout gross misogynistic lines?

 

Um, excuse me Michael, but Morgan is not who stopped you from shooting Sonny.  Dante was.  And how did he do that again?  By appealing to Michael to act like a Quartermaine and not like a Corinthos.

 

Yeah, but I don't think, "hey, remember the time only Dante talked me down and you stood there" would have quite the same emotional appeal.

 

Did Ric actually list losing his wife among the many bad things that have happened to him lately?

 

Rolled my eyes too at the "would do anything to be a part of Georgie's life."  Oh well, at least Dillon and Maxie chatting is way more interesting than any Maxie and Nathan scene. He makes Maxie tolerable.

 

It was the "it almost killed me when I was banned from seeing georgie" that made me roll my eyes. I don't think there is anything criminal about Maxie being content to let Spinelli and Ellie raise her unplanned for child. She's leaving her kid with loving parents. What does make me annoyed is the show trying to sell Maxie as ueber mom. 

 

And yes, Maxie and Dillon are better around each other but I hate that again they went the all or nothing route with Paul and Dillon. Couldn't they have been in contact once in a while off-screen?

 

So Molly was really resting in her room through alllll of the drama. Okay.

 

She doesn't have a contract, she stays in her room, heh.

 

At this point, if after the reveal, Carly does anything less to Liz than kill her and eat her, it probably won't be believable to me but hey, they're not gonna do that so here we are.

[OnceSane]

At this point, if after the reveal, Carly does anything less to Liz than kill her and eat her, it probably won't be believable to me but hey, they're not gonna do that so here we are.

I amost peed myself.

Yeah, Carly was giving Liz quite the side-eye at the end there. I hope she's not the one to figure it out and expose Liz and Nik, but her reaction better be epic.

[ulkis]

There were two things that took me right the hell out of today's episode:

1. the continuing absence of any sort of explanation for how Paul ever even knew about Scott's flashdrive, which is intentional fuckery.  And, worse, it just screws up everything else he's doing right--or mostly so, depending on how doomed you perceive him to be; he's working Tracy and Dillon, if not maliciously?  Fine.  He's charmed Mayor Lomax into making him the new DA?  Great.  But how could he know about this?  As charismatic as Richard Burgi is, and as leggy as Maura West was in that short robe, I just can't let that one go.  It's my Jake explanation, I guess.

 

I mean, I guess I could wank that he was keeping track of the trial, and when Ric didn't have the flashdrive guessed Scott stole it to win the case, and he took a chance to see if it would be there and got lucky. It's weak, but a little better than "commercial break . . . and that's how Helena did it!", I guess. Maybe.

 

2. Michael kicking Julian.  Even if, contextually, trying to get in a verbal jab at the guy who had a gun to your head barely a minute after his brother talked him down was immensely dumb (but so very Julian--at least he's consistent)...that was SUPER INTENTIONAL FUCKERY in the name of ensuring that Michael will at least briefly end up running Sonny's operations (again?), and it nearly drove me to another of dubbel zout's rage blackouts.

 

Maybe he can at least kill Kiki on the way to the top if he does?

[rur]

I noticed that toward the end of Morgan With A Gun, that Morgan had the gun pointed at GH's favorite place for gunshot wounds and not, say, at Julian's head or heart where he might have actually done some serious damage. And while I did give BC props for his acting on the day he was supposed to be agitated, I haven't been impressed by much since.  Mainly what I saw today was a petulant teenager waving a gun around with no idea of how to use it. (And IIRC, he once told someone that he'd learned to shoot, either at boarding school or college.)

 

 

 I had emergency surgery eight weeks ago today and was on a morphine drip for several days and I kept insisting that my cats were in my hospital with me.  As I lay there I petted them, brushed them, and gave them their kitty treats.  I could even "smell" their kitty breath. …
 

 

Hope you're better now, movingtargetgal, and I understand: my brother-in-law's dogs had found jobs at the hospital and had been bringing him his meds when he was there a while back. 

[TeeVee329]

Yeah, but I don't think, "hey, remember the time only Dante talked me down and you stood there" would have quite the same emotional appeal.

 

I get what you're saying, but rewriting what happened just seemed like more retconning away Michael's very legitimate anger about Sonny having killed AJ.  I can't fucking stand it.

 

In other news, TJ's slamming Mayor Lomax for being corrupt was a little rich.  I mean, yeah, she totally is.  But you live and worship a mobster, bro, so maybe this isn't the glass house you wanna start chucking stones in.

[IWantCandy71]

I do think down the line we will learn Mayor Lomax and Paul have been working in tandem before Paul came to town. She's always been shady, and it was hinted at that she might be part of the Legion of Doom during the Fluke debacle. If Paul always intended to pull Ava in, it's more than plausible that he had his old friend Mayor Lomax keep tabs on Scott and Ava-probably bugging Scott's room for sure. Yes, it needs to be stated on screen, but I think it's a viable guess.

 

 

I've noticed Brian Craig is imitating Maurice more and more these days, especially since the supposed bi polar stuff started.

Not a good habit-and I don't necessarily mean that as a diss to MB. I think it's best to be your own, and not be so obviously a copy of any actor, especially not one on the same show. Even if you do play father and son.

 

Should I bother watching today? I don't want to go back to hating Michael.

[dubbel zout]

I couldn't help wondering if Maxie and Dillon's commiserations over bad parentage are a lead-in to their getting it on down the line.

 

If Ron were still around, I'd say definitely, given how much he loved triangles/quads. That said, I'm sure something will happen, since Maxie and Nathan are due for some agita. Dillon's anvilicious comment yesterday about Maxie being one of those people who is disgustingly happy and wants everyone else to be disgustingly happy wasn't a throwaway line.

 

Morgan had the gun pointed at GH's favorite place for gunshot wounds and not, say, at Julian's head or heart

 

Could that be a safety issue? I know they take guns very seriously on set, even if they're not loaded or have blanks. It might also be bad camera blocking—if the camera were at a different angle, the gun might look pointed in the "right" place.

Edited September 22, 2015 by dubbel zout

[Ambrosefolly]

Can the mayor appoint the DAs? I thought that was done by election? Maybe a temp, but nothing permanent.

Edited September 22, 2015 by Ambrosefolly

[TeeVee329]

Can the mayor appoint the DAs? I thought that was done by election? Maybe a temp, but nothing permanent.

 

Scotty definitely ran for the position, Lucy was his campaign manager.  Maybe when he quit, the assignment of Ric and then Paul was left up to the mayor?

[GHScorpiosRule]

Can the mayor appoint the DAs? I thought that was done by election? Maybe a temp, but nothing permanent.

 

 

Scotty definitely ran for the position, Lucy was his campaign manager.  Maybe when he quit, the assignment of Ric and then Paul was left up to the mayor?

 

Weelllll, according to my vast legal knowledge due to the School of Law & Order (Original), A DA can be appointed if the current one is just...gone? And then if he or she chooses, can run for the position in the next Election. I recall how in Season 18, Branch Foghorn Leghorn was just gone and Jack was appointed interim DA, and then he ran for the position in the following season.

 

Now, how much of that is real or not, I dunno. But then why should we expect realism on this fakakta show, I ask you?

[Bill C.]

Going off the almighty Law & Order, yeah, a city-level District Attorney would certainly be an elected official.  Whether this means Paul is simply Interim DA #2 remains to be seen, though I expect the show to gloss that over PDQ.

 

I mean, I guess I could wank that he was keeping track of the trial, and when Ric didn't have the flashdrive guessed Scott stole it to win the case, and he took a chance to see if it would be there and got lucky. It's weak, but a little better than "commercial break . . . and that's how Helena did it!", I guess. Maybe.

 

I could grudgingly accept this minus one point: we'd still have to have some sort of onscreen logic jump from "Scott must have had the evidence with him, whatever it was, when he resigned" to "Oh, hey, it's this flashdrive stuck under a bed."  Without that, it's still far too close to "...and that's how Helena did it."

 

At this point, if after the reveal, Carly does anything less to Liz than kill her and eat her, it probably won't be believable to me but hey, they're not gonna do that so here we are.

 

I think I'd settle for something a little more visceral: Liz blurts out that Jakeson is Jasus.  Carly, being Carly, is the one who gets the tearful "I wanted to hold on to him, I love him!" explanation from her about it.  And then Carly loses her shit, goes full-on "How could you do this to me?!?" (and it must be worded that way) and nearly strangles Liz and/or somehow causes her to go into a coma.  Retribution and karma recycling all in one package.

 

I do think down the line we will learn Mayor Lomax and Paul have been working in tandem before Paul came to town. She's always been shady, and it was hinted at that she might be part of the Legion of Doom during the Fluke debacle. If Paul always intended to pull Ava in, it's more than plausible that he had his old friend Mayor Lomax keep tabs on Scott and Ava-probably bugging Scott's room for sure. Yes, it needs to be stated on screen, but I think it's a viable guess.

 

Hell, just one insert shot of Paul saying "...and thank you, Janice, for the heads-up about that evidence" into his cellphone would accomplish all of this or at least be enough of a Band-aid on the stupid that we could deal with it.  But it needed to be done in either today or yesterday's episode, and the further away we get from the reveal the more obviously tacked-on it'll look if and when they do finally go there.  (Conversely, however, if the show wants to keep Lomax as a more-or-less white hat until whatever point they can't do it...so there we are.  Then again, thanks to the election brouhaha, that ship's probably sunk.)

 

I've noticed Brian Craig is imitating Maurice more and more these days, especially since the supposed bi polar stuff started.

Not a good habit-and I don't necessarily mean that as a diss to MB. I think it's best to be your own, and not be so obviously a copy of any actor, especially not one on the same show. Even if you do play father and son.

 

I said a few days back I gave him a pass for it because it actually works in context (horror!), and he's actually good at it, but no--he certainly can't keep doing it.  He needs to get back to his own schtick.  Or at least go have hate!sex with Ava to flush it out of his system.  Either works.

Edited September 22, 2015 by Bill C.

[ulkis]

I could grudgingly accept this minus one point: we'd still have to have some sort of onscreen logic jump from "Scott must have had the evidence with him, whatever it was, when he resigned" to "Oh, hey, it's this flashdrive stuck under a bed."  Without that, it's still far too close to "...and that's how Helena did it."

 

Doesn't everyone know what the evidence was from Ava's original sentencing? I know I'm stretching here, I've just seen worse on GH. You're right though that your "thanks for the heads up Janice" line would have only taken 10 seconds and more than sufficed.

[Bill C.]

Hell, I'll even go one better: Mrs. Shipley was Paul's mole all along!  That would actually be unexpected, kind of awesome in a WTF sort of way, and fit perfectly into his plans-within-plans.  (And she doesn't even have to be a willing mole!)

[Fellaway]

Tell me, Show, who are these people who "admire" Carly?  Because I don't think even the people who purport to love her admire her.

 

Alrighty then.  Michael is now on the list of people I hate on this show.  And, not long this time last year, things were looking so promising.  I feel like Guza's back in town, and, for me, "Guza" is a dirty word.

[LeftPhalange]

Liez needs to be removed from life.