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yankee1151

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So have Liz and Austin officially broken up? Damn I missed a lot this week. Austin is apparently delusional as ever though. I knew as soon as I heard Jessie had been there Austin would think it was because of him. And now he's asking people to call him Judas? Hahahahahahahaha.

 

Last night on BBAD Austin was trying to explain professional wrestling to Vanessa, who apparently had no idea it was fake (really?) and he was saying the reason he never became a success was because he was too multi-layered or something so they could not come up with one specific character for him. Okay. 

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I AM LAUGHING SO HARD OH MY GOD

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Helen still thinks it is too soon to take out Amanda.

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Julia to Liz about Austin: "I really hope you're more loyal to me than him." and "I can't trust him. He disgusts me. I'm not going to be nice to him. I can't fake it."   I think I love Julia.

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Since i don't have the feeds but can only follow the rest of you is it clear that Austin could have thrown the veto to Julia?? Or is it just that the twins imagine Julia might have won in some way?

 

The comps aren't shown, but it was apparently some sort of knock-out bowling match, where you get to pick your competitor. I think Vanessa (and maybe Steve?) were both out at that point, Julia had to pick, she asked Vanessa who to pick, and Vanessa told her Austin. I know that John and Liz were still in the competition, so even if Austin had tanked his matchup with Julia, John still could have won. But yeah, Austin did have the opportunity to allow Julia to stay in the comp or get knocked out, and he knocked her out.

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MKL122788

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The comps aren't shown, but it was apparently some sort of knock-out bowling match, where you get to pick your competitor. I think Vanessa (and maybe Steve?) were both out at that point, Julia had to pick, she asked Vanessa who to pick, and Vanessa told her Austin. I know that John and Liz were still in the competition, so even if Austin had tanked his matchup with Julia, John still could have won. But yeah, Austin did have the opportunity to allow Julia to stay in the comp or get knocked out, and he knocked her out.

At the same time, I don't know who was best at that competition, but if she chooses Liz and has Liz throw it to her, then Austin might beat John and throw it to her with the guarantee that she would win.

 

At the same time, no guarantee Liz throws it to her. She should've thrown the double elimination HoH to Julia and didn't.

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call me ishmael

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The comps aren't shown, but it was apparently some sort of knock-out bowling match, where you get to pick your competitor. I think Vanessa (and maybe Steve?) were both out at that point, Julia had to pick, she asked Vanessa who to pick, and Vanessa told her Austin. I know that John and Liz were still in the competition, so even if Austin had tanked his matchup with Julia, John still could have won. But yeah, Austin did have the opportunity to allow Julia to stay in the comp or get knocked out, and he knocked her out.

Thanks! So Austin really did screw them over. If julia wins then they are all safe given the numbers voting. No wonder they are pissed at him. Is there any sign that he knew what he was doing, hoping that this would get one of the twins out without them realizing that he had "blood on his hands"?

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Ceeg

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At the same time, no guarantee Liz throws it to her. She should've thrown the double elimination HoH to Julia and didn't.

Liz said she tried to throw the HOH to Julia, but she accidentally won. Much like Steve's DE HOH win.

 

Thanks! So Austin really did screw them over. If julia wins then they are all safe given the numbers voting. No wonder they are pissed at him. Is there any sign that he knew what he was doing, hoping that this would get one of the twins out without them realizing that he had "blood on his hands"?

Austin never planned on throwing the comp to Julia or to Liz.  Because he knows that he will never be able to get the twins out himself. He's gotta rely on Steve, John, or Vanessa to do it. If the Austwins made the final 3, Austin would be in a must-win situation bc neither would take him to F2, and winning the veto yesterday ensures that he will never have to be in that situation now.

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RedheadZombie

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At the same time, no guarantee Liz throws it to her. She should've thrown the double elimination HoH to Julia and didn't.

 

Oh I think Liz would have definitely thrown the veto comp to Julia.  That would have left both of them protected.  I think that's at root at Liz's meltdown.  Not so much that Austin should sacrifice his game for her, but that he deliberately prevented the twins from being safe.  I watched the scene in which she first melted down crying, and said she was over it.  Austin was giving her a "pep talk" about what she should say to Steve.  It was all - now YOU have to convince Steve of this, and YOU have to blow up Vanessa's game by saying that, etc.  I immediately noticed he placed it 100% in her lap.  He had no intention of helping to work Steve to keep Julia off the block.  He clearly was elated he was safe, and had little motivation to keep the twins safe.

 

Those twins seemed to eat non-stop last night. Even finding multiple ants in her food didn't dissuade Liz for more than a few seconds.

 

ETA:   I'm an only child who always fantasized about having an identical twin. When Liz told Julia she loved her more than herself, and they both teared up, I almost teared up with them.  It reminded me how much I was moved by Dick and Danielle, even though I despised him and disliked her.

Thanks! So Austin really did screw them over. If julia wins then they are all safe given the numbers voting. No wonder they are pissed at him. Is there any sign that he knew what he was doing, hoping that this would get one of the twins out without them realizing that he had "blood on his hands"?

 

I suspect it was deliberate, especially when he made the lame excuse that he was simply overcome by the need to win.  Therefore, it was really out of his control.  He was so pathetic when Liz had her head covered and refused to talk to him.

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Cosmocrush

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Those twins seemed to eat non-stop last night. Even finding multiple ants in her food didn't dissuade Liz for more than a few seconds.

 

Ha!  I saw that 

 

L: Chomp chomp chomp....EWWWW what's thaaaat?  An ant! 

J:: Ewwwww. 

L: That's why I don't like Austin to cook for me. 

J:  You should hate him again - he's trying to poison you!

Liz uses her knife to remove another ant and continues cutting and chomping, cutting and chomping.......

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parisprincess

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These days BB is just a shell of its former self.  When a new HOH is crowned, the others ask who to pick for Houseguest Choice, they ask who to go up against in comps, and they ask who to vote out.  Why can't these damn people make a decision on their own?  Where's the suspense?  Where's the excitement of not knowing who is leaving?  This voting with the house is a bunch of crap.  And whatever happened to the rule that they couldn't tell a person they were going to be nominated or that they were being voted out?  I think I'm just about over this show.

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MKL122788

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I think they need to try to blow up Vanessa's game before it is too late. If Liz goes, she will have a F2 deal with the remaining 4 who likely will try to use her as their main alliance.

 

If Steve wanted to be in the best position for next week, he should try to make a deal with the twins for now as a threesome, get rid of Vanessa, and have them agree to give up Austin as soon as possible. This is, of course, dream world. Getting rid of Liz hurts his long term game, as Vanessa will string Julia along and likely see a threesome with Austin and Julia as a much better end game alternative to her current Steve/John one.

 

That Vanessa/Julia finale is on the horizon in the current landscape. They need to shake it up before it is too late.

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blixie

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she will have a F2 deal with the remaining 4 who likely will try to use her as their main alliance.

If Steve wanted to be in the best position for next week, he should try to make a deal with the twins for now as a threesome,

 

This is sounds like the kind of plan of that kid in Shel Silverstein poem Smart would endorse. Steve has a F2 with Van, a F2 with John, and could potentially work a F2 with Julia, there is literally no reason at all he should trade that for a certain F3 with Liz/Julia in which they will both be against him. Van is one of the only people Steve would have a chance at beating and Julia is the other, getting rid of Van is terrible for Steve's game.  

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Ceeg

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I think Vanessa and Steve both have equal shots at winning if they're in the F2, depending on who they're facing and how the jury feels. Austin is the only person that is 100% locked to win, if in the F2, so everyone's smartest move would be to try to get him out at all costs. After that, it's anyone's game (except Julia, who I think has no chance at winning against anyone left in the house). I have a feeling Austin might be going Beast Mode and is going to go on a major comp win run, though.

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tinderbox

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What season started the whole "vote with the house" crap?

I'm pretty sure it began in Season 15. If I remember correctly, Helen was always on the "vote with the house" bandwagon and convinced everyone to join her.

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Kris117

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Hahahahaha! Austin explaining his love woes to Steve, he explains to Steve he just told Liz that he loves her, he had never said that before to her, he opened his heart to her and told her that "he would do anything in the world for her in this game". Steve: "except sacrifice your game to her". LONG PAUSE, Austin...well I can't do that.

I was reading along, laughing to myself at all of your wonderful posts about the Liz/Austin fight, but this made me laugh so hard I was wheezing.

I am highly disappointed in the size of that wine bottle, damn BB give your viewers some fun SUPERSIZE that shit.

What about the glass situation? They need some cousins of Big Carl in that house.

So Austin thinks that Jessie being in the house and placing the veto around his neck will be a big boost for his career because "the wrestling world will see it". Does the moron really believe that those guys are all watching Big Brother? He really thinks that Jessie was there to benefit him personally since he considers himself the most entertaining and popular person in the house.

I would love to know how Austin would explain the other times Jessie has been back in the house for something or other. They had Jessie in there practicing several years ahead of Austin's season so he would be ready?

My favorite reaction was Rachel's when she opened Pandora's Box and got Jessie.

I'm pretty sure it began in Season 15. If I remember correctly, Helen was always on the "vote with the house" bandwagon and convinced everyone to join her.

That's how I remember it as well. "We owe it to our Fearless Leader the HoH!" was her argument. She also is the patron saint of "It's too early to make a big move."

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peachmangosteen

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The votes have been pretty close to unanimous on basically every eviction for awhile actually. Like at least since BB12. Unless there's clear sides in the house they're gonna be unanimous votes.

 

Apparently John has said he'll vote whichever way the twins want, which is also what Vanessa has said. Oh please oh please let Liz and Julia decide that Liz should stay. I'd love to see Vanessa weasel out of that one!

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Kris117

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Didn't Britney also get stuck with Jessie?  Or do I just wish that happened?

I had forgotten about that, but she did, too. According to Big Brother Wiki, Britney got stuck in a room with him for an hour so that he could give her game advice in Season 12, and Rachel in Season 13.

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Ha!  I saw that 

 

L: Chomp chomp chomp....EWWWW what's thaaaat?  An ant! 

J:: Ewwwww. 

L: That's why I don't like Austin to cook for me. 

J:  You should hate him again - he's trying to poison you!

Liz uses her knife to remove another ant and continues cutting and chomping, cutting and chomping.......

Wait.  Liz seriously dug ants out of her food and kept eating?  Does Austin put ants in their food or what?  With all that hair and his bare chest, I couldn't eat anything Austin had a hand in to start with anyway.  Much less with ants.

 

For the record, I'd like to see Steve win since he's such a superfan.

 

Why is Austin a shoo-in to win if he's in F2?  I can't stand him.

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Katesus7

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Liz making up with Austin (Ewwwwwaahhh!!!) is the worst thing she could do for her game. A Liz against Austin has a shot to stay, a Liz all lovey with Austin is gone. Which, fine for me.

Interesting to watch the HOH on the show. It looked like it was John's to lose, but he knew he was good and he was setting himself up to play in the next HOH. Good play.

Vanessa's DRs confuse me. If she's 100% in the DRs then great gameplay. But it's such a disconnect for me between her DRs and her ridiculous, over the top emotional play in the house. And I saw her cry all by her lonesome after James winning POV last week. I do believe a big portion of her crying is truly her crying. That the remaining portion is her playing people does not endear me to her. I'm not a a big fan of crying for votes, or for any advantage. It's rather distasteful to me. But that's my hang up. If it works, more power to her.

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Cosmocrush

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Wait.  Liz seriously dug ants out of her food and kept eating?  Does Austin put ants in their food or what?  With all that hair and his bare chest, I couldn't eat anything Austin had a hand in to start with anyway.  Much less with ants.

Yes, that happened but the were cooked ants, LOL     Austin does a lot of the cooking shirtless and i agree about all that hair and food.  Blech. 

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solomonhancock

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Vanessa pulling a Boogie and telling everyone she can get them really good deals at Vegas hotels. LMAO.

Actually, she can.  The rates are always good for the guests of "high rollers"  poker players and the like.  Also, Vanessa can get lower rates as a local. 

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peachmangosteen

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I am doing catch up here.  At this moment, and I know it can change, who is likely to be voted out this week?  

 

Liz.

 

Actually, she can.  The rates are always good for the guests of "high rollers"  poker players and the like.  Also, Vanessa can get lower rates as a local. 

 

Boogie could do all the shit he promised too, doesn't make it any less hilarious/awful that they use that as strategy.

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Petunia13

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Vanessa pulling a Boogie and telling everyone she can get them really good deals at Vegas hotels. LMAO.

Is that a promise or a threat? I can't imagine a vacation more excruciating than one spent with Vanessa.

I've said it before but the twins are so typical looking in the face and hair. I see their doppelgängers often.

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Ceeg

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It will be hysterical if Vanessa win HOH and puts up Steve & Johnny Mac. Those two would be besides themselves. Vanessa would lock herself in the HOH room & then cry that she is a victim. LOL!!!

I think Vanessa would put up Steve and Austin, personally. It's hard to get a read on who she's actually loyal to, since she professes loyalty to everyone left in the house. But I get the feeling that she doesn't think she can beat Steve, and Austin is a huge comp threat. I think her ideal F3 is (and should be) John and Julia.

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peachmangosteen

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Is that a promise or a threat? I can't imagine a vacation more excruciating than one spent with Vanessa.

LMAO! You know I agree!

 

I don't think there's a chance in hell Vanessa tries to win the next HOH. She's sitting pretty and it would be dumb for her to make the choice between her 4 different F2s right now.

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Vicky

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You know what's making me crazy this year? "Who's the target?" Grrrrrr.

Austin asked this of Steve the other day when Steve told Austin he was one of the nominees.

They're distorting the game (and making up unspoken 'rules' along the way)

Its the HOH's job to lay out the options. The rest of the Houseguests decide who will be voted out.

In a more perfect world the Houseguests wouldn't even worry about a unanimous decision.

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blixie

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In a more perfect world the Houseguests wouldn't even worry about a unanimous decision.

 

Yeah it makes me insane, as does the forwarning everyone about the "plan". To some extent PoV sort of created the idea of pawns/targets/back doors, but I don't recall the kind of lockstep and coordination we have now, nor this fear of blood on the hands, the whole point of BB is to have blood on your hands and for competitions to save/fuck you over. There has to be some way to shake the game out of this crap next year, it brings down the feeds and the show. 

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Eolivet

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Thank you! This is a problem I've been seeing (elsewhere) on the internet: People crying sexism and claiming that aggressive gameplay among male contestants is applauded while female contestants are shamed for it. No, it's just a sad coincidence that many female houseguests (BB3 Danielle Reyes, Maggie, Vanessa) either refuse to own up to their tactics or become overly apologetic when discussing them. I think the viewers would absolutely welcome another woman who played the game with an unabashed sense of badassery. Hell, they clearly had no problem with houseguests like Janelle, Nakomis, or (to a lesser extent) Daniele.

 

That is a kind of sexism, to me -- but more institutional (unintentional) sexism than anything else. There is a belief in society that women have to "declare" themselves to men or to each other. Women are thought to be naturally more emotional, and so naturally, any emotion a woman displays is thought to be thought of as authentic. A woman is "presenting" her feelings to society. It's the less odious outgrowth of "what was she wearing" -- a woman declares her personality by the way she dresses and acts.

 

So, I believe women who use that emotion to manipulate men, and each other, are thought of as especially heinous because women aren't supposed to do that. Women are supposed to be "honest" with their emotions, and if they're not, they're being "deceptive." A man can lie as part of a game and people will excuse it as game play, but a woman cannot cry or fake emotional bonds with other women as part of a game because she will be thought of as nasty and deceitful because I think society believes women must declare themselves.

 

The women listed (Janelle and Daniele, in particular -- I admit I never saw Nakomis) "declared" themselves: as comp threats and as players. Janelle went against type as the "Vegas showgirl comp threat," but she was honest about who she was. I believe they played very "masculine" games -- taking emotion out of it, making game moves, winning competitions. They "declared" themselves in that sense. Maggie and now Vanessa seem to use emotion as strategy: to bond others to them, to manipulate others into doing what they wanted, and I believe they are hated for it, because they "declared" themselves as something which we know to be inauthentic. And I believe "feminine" game play is thought of as dishonest (and thus, isn't respected) in a way "masculine" game play isn't.

 

And while men are called out for playing overly personal games, I never see the method of game play impacting the level of respect afforded to the player. Sure, everyone universally agrees that Boston Rob in the first Survivor All Stars played a highly personal game and didn't win. But the Internet only gives the faintest stirrings of not respecting the game he played because it was personal. Another example from this show: Dan in Big Brother 14 -- who I actually like -- I also believe played a highly personal game that was also full of game moves and didn't win. But it's never said he played a bad game because it was personal.

 

My point is, when men use emotion as strategy, the general public sees the strategy. When women use emotion as strategy, the general public sees the emotion. Dan gets Danielle (who is emotionally close to him, at least in the house) to use the veto on him and then boots Shane and instead of going "Wow, what a jerk" the general public instead says "Wow! Great game play!" Vanessa wins competitions and forms alliances with people who hated her in the middle of all her crying and emotional manipulation and instead of "Wow, great game play!" the general public goes "Ugh, shut your whining."

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Cutty

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I think Vanessa would put up Steve and Austin, personally. It's hard to get a read on who she's actually loyal to, since she professes loyalty to everyone left in the house. But I get the feeling that she doesn't think she can beat Steve, and Austin is a huge comp threat. I think her ideal F3 is (and should be) John and Julia.

 

I definitely think she wants Steve gone next. Then let things play out at F4. There's only so much you can control at that point. It all comes down to who wins veto. 

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Ceeg

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I definitely think she wants Steve gone next. Then let things play out at F4. There's only so much you can control at that point. It all comes down to who wins veto. 

Yeah, I think Steve is in a pretty bad spot at F5. He can't win HOH, and I think 3 (if not 4) of the 4 people competing would put him up on the block. Steve is scary as a F2 prospect because of the Ian factor, and now Steve has a great resume builder in evicting an Austwin. There's no reason why anyone in the house should want Steve to stick around any longer.

Meanwhile, Julia is poised to go F2 IMO. 

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AndreaK1041

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Do we think the Before-After HoH is this week or next? Vanessa will be good at that, Julia will be horrible. John I have no idea. Austin... good? Don't know about him either, but I really want him out next.

I like the puzzles at the end that take knowledge of the game. I always like the big web Veto puzzles. And last year we got the very excellent Caleb DR "I have never. Been good. At webs." Ha.

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Ceeg

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Do we think the Before-After HoH is this week or next? Vanessa will be good at that, Julia will be horrible. John I have no idea. Austin... good? Don't know about him either, but I really want him out next.

I'm not sure about Before/After but John knows his days very well. However, there's been some speculation in the house that they won't have the Days comp or the Before/After comp this year, because it's unfair to Liz and Julia, since they weren't in the game consistently for the first 5 weeks. 

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AndreaK1041

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Hmm, I don't know that I agree with that logic by them. It's not like they do things that are only a day or two apart or tiny events that they wouldn't tell each other about. For instance something like "did Audrey skip the veto ceremony before or after John won his second veto"... They should know those even if they weren't there for those days.

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Wings

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Bb feeds on twitter said that liz is wanting to leave so that Julia can stay. Liz said Julia has always had the short end of the stick so liz wants to give this to julia

 

Interesting.  I wonder why and how that played out. 

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