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  1. TimWil

    Fosse/Verdon

    One of my favorite critics’ comments was Clive Barnes’ assessment of the score of Sondheim’s Company (and I might be paraphrasing here): “It’s the type of score that leads you to say to yourself ‘Oh, yeah?’ as opposed to ‘Gee, whiz!’” I’m not a fan of the casting for the Chicago ensemble in this. They’re depicted as predominantly young which just wasn’t correct. Several of the male ensemble members were actually over thirty, playing members of the press, courtroom spectators and the like. And the ensemble in the episode looked racially diverse when in reality there was one African-American woman (Candy Brown, who was also given the fabulous line “And then he just ran into my knife. He ran into my knife TEN TIMES.”), one woman from Argentina (Graciela Daniele) and that was pretty much it. And why on earth did they feature two members sporting a ponytail? Chicago is set in the 1920s. One of them was a dancer seen in rehearsals and I think maybe the other guy was meant to be the conductor (musical director). Nope. The conductor/musical director was a short, balding middle-aged man named Stanley Lebowski-he can be heard saying “Five, six, seven eight!” leading into the overture on the cast album. I just didn’t get why they felt they had to do that. I realize Fosse/Verdon isn’t a documentary but come on. The least they could do was present a semblance of reality in terms of how the cast looked. I can only guess that the reason 26 year old Juliet Brett was cast was because the most important material she’d be required to play would be in the finale when Nicole is in her early-mid 20s.
  2. TimWil

    Fosse/Verdon

    My mom and I were at the first preview of Chicago in May 1975. I was 14. I remember exactly where we sat-up in the audience left box. I enjoyed it enormously but I was rather creeped out by the occasional sight of some members of the male ensemble being in black high heels, garter belts and stockings. During the intermission there was an announcement-the hydraulic contraption which lifted Chita Rivera from below the set to perform “All That Jazz” was on the fritz. We were given the option of either a full refund or the opportunity to come back at a later date. My mom exchanged the seats for the night of my birthday, which was a few months later in August. Our seats were dead center in the orchestra section. The male ensemble members were no longer in high heels, garter belts and stockings. And Liza Minnelli was in as Roxie. And she was unforgettable.
  3. TimWil

    Killing Eve

    Eve’s voicemail messages to Villanelle annoyed me. They were so casual. They might as well have been something like “Hey, Villanelle, let’s grab a coffee together after spin class.”
  4. TimWil

    Killing Eve

    Because she was annoying. I think. So wasn’t it entirely possible that Aaron had Villanelle under total surveillance in her boudoir? And since I assume she’s aware of this why did she speak out loud in her normal accent to Eve?
  5. TimWil

    Fosse/Verdon

    For a brief period of time I actually knew the actress who played Stacy in All That Jazz. She was a lovely English girl. I wondered why the same character was American in Fosse/Verdon Bobby with the strippers in Fosse/Verdon struck me as far more disturbing than the fictionalized young Joe Gideon with the strippers in All That Jazz for several reasons. One is that Bobby in Fosse/Verdon is 13 and looks it. In All That Jazz Joe looks to be 16 or 17. Another is that in All That Jazz it could appear to some viewers that the strippers “messing with him” was a teasing/bullying prank which resulted in a sight gag (the stain on the front of his pants). Yet another reason (and I know I should tread lightly here) is that Joe in All That Jazz is nerdy looking and not particularly attractive in a sexual way (sorry, all these years later I still think Keith Gordon wasn’t believable casting as a younger version of Roy Scheider’s Joe). The boy who plays Bobby is handsome-the camera knowingly worships his shiny face and perfect teeth in close-up when he’s taking his bows. So when the strippers “mess with him” it’s most likely that what they were doing to him was no teasing/bullying prank, they were actually turned on by this young boy’s looks (and undeniable talent), grabbed at the opportunity for intimate relations with him and thus committed thoroughly disgusting acts upon/with a minor. I thought Bob’s warring emotions about this bizarre coming-of-age scenario were beautifully expressed in last night’s episode.
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    Fosse/Verdon

  7. TimWil

    Fosse/Verdon

    Wow. They really did show 13 year old Bobby with the strippers. Yikes. But I suppose they had to in order to really get the point across that he’d been “damaged” from an early age. I was in a play many years ago with an actor who told me that his older brother, at age 13, was taken by his father to LA brothels and made to have sex with much older prostitutes to “make him a man.” This actor ended up with a sex addiction issue which continued through most of his adult life. Go figure. I won’t confirm or deny guesses, sorry, because the actor is still alive. When Gwen got Nicole dressed and made-up for that hospital visit she looked uncannily like Jodie Foster’s pubescent hooker character Iris in Taxi Driver, especially with that floppy hat. If she’d been in hot pants and platform shoes she would have been quite the doppelganger. Of course Taxi Driver wasn’t shot until the following summer but still. OK, Gwen used the term “casting agent” which I am certainly aware is not the term used now-it’s “casting director.” I don’t even think this term was used in 1974 but I guess there’s a reason they had her say it. Margaret Qualley really is lovely. The bit at the end with that kind older man was very sweet. I was wondering what the significance might be, if any, of the redhead stripper in the balcony foreground who Bobby kept looking up at during his bows. As far as I know she’s the only redhead we’ve seen on this show other than Gwen.
  8. TimWil

    Fosse/Verdon

    I was relieved that the incident of Bobby’s virginity being taken was shot from his PoV so we never actually saw the 13 year old. And it was good they made it clear that the strippers were not exactly fantasy objects (there was at least one shot of them with a paunchy belly). I haven’t been a fan of Rockwell’s work in this but I thought he played that section beautifully-it was made clear that it was actually a painful, traumatic memory for Bob, not something to take pride in. And I liked that it was made clear that Ron was quietly horrified by what he’d just heard.
  9. TimWil

    Fosse/Verdon

    Watching SNL right now and wondering if they might end up doing a spoof of Fosse/Verdon with Beck Bennett as Rockwell/Fosse and Kate McKinnon as Williams/Verdon.
  10. TimWil

    Killing Eve

    Hugo’s a douchebag and yet I do find him sexy. I think he’d hit the spot just fine after a late-night visit to an unexpectedly great chicken joint.
  11. TimWil

    Fosse/Verdon

    Well, this seems to be the first time they seriously messed with the timeline. Pippin opened in October 1972 but tonight’s episode would have you believe they were still in rehearsals when Fosse got his Oscar nomination for Cabaret-in 1973. And Fosse won his Oscar before he won his Tonys for Pippin, not after. Oh well. I still got misty-eyed by Williams’ beautiful acting in that hospital room scene.
  12. TimWil

    Killing Eve

    I really wanted to see Villanelle punch one of those vending machines at the famed Febo for a deep fried mystery meat thing (they call it frikandel) but I did enjoy her outburst at the Rijksmuseum.
  13. TimWil

    Fosse/Verdon

    I want to know if Ann Reinking really said to him “Do you have to be so generous with your c**k?” like her character said in All That Jazz.
  14. TimWil

    Fosse/Verdon

    Does Norbert Leo Butz sound exactly like Jason Alexander in everything he does? Because he really sounds like him as Paddy Chayevsky. He also seems to be wearing at least three inch lifts. God, I wish HBO would air the pilot he did (was it called The Miraculous Year?) where he played a gay, meth-addicted Broadway songwriter whose sculptor dad was played by Frank Langella. And it was directed by Kathryn Bigelow the same year she won her Oscar.
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    Fosse/Verdon

    Man, Children Children sounds like it was a frigging awful play. That very long shot of Gwen going back onstage after her tremendous ovation during Can Can was quite stunning. Williams just continues knocking it out of the park.
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