Season 17 Live Feed Discussion: Watch People Sleep All Day!

[Cutty]

Vanessa to HOH crew: "He [JMac] had red rage in his face." 

 

Soooooooooo fuckin' delusional. I can't handle this.

[Katesus7]

Now Vanessa is telling the Austwins her version of the Vanessa/Clay/James fight. It's....a bit different from what I remember watching both on the feeds and the show. I don't understand why she can't just be happy that the nominations are what she wanted, and shut. The. Fuck. Up.

[mooses]

They're talking about John in front of Steve. Clueless hamsters.

[Callaphera]

So, I missed this little tidbit while away from my computer for a few minutes. From Jokers:

 

Vanessa says she's being nice to Johnny Mac because she's afraid he'll attack her in the middle of the night! She's legitimately scared! Austin says BB has security.

 

Really? I don't know what to say about that. She and I are thinking of the same Johnny Mac, right?

 

ETA: Apparently so, because Austin is now telling James and Meg about it downstairs.

 

ETA2: Vanessa is claiming that she's one of the least frequent criers in the house. She really does live in Bizzaro Land, doesn't she?

Edited August 14, 2015 by Callaphera

[Katesus7]

Vanessa trying to paint Johnny Mac as some sort of volatile, red faced rage guy she's 'afraid' of is the dumbest, most ridiculous, obnoxious, offensive "strategy" I've seen this year. I mean, Johnny Mac? Seriously?

I have no problem with Liz or Julia targeting him because they have never talked, and have no deals or alliances, and they barely know him. Very logical, valid reasons. Even them finding him annoying is valid. But as much as Becky harped and harped and harped about Vanessa last week (and it was very annoying), it has nothing on this blatant slander Vanessa seems intent on right now.

[Donny Ketchum]

But as much as Becky harped and harped and harped about Vanessa last week (and it was very annoying), it has nothing on this blatant slander Vanessa seems intent on right now.

Annoying or not, at least what Becky harped about Vanessa was true.  I can deal with a little repeated nattering and harping and bitching and ranting about someone or something so long as it's true, which her rants were.  Nothing is true about what Vanessa is saying about John.  Not a word.

Edited August 15, 2015 by Donny Ketchum

[SiobhanJW]

Vanessa is an amazing stragetic player. When she gets going with plans and ideas and how things should be done and running through different angles and scenarios it's awesome to watch. But when she goes full on emotional it's ridiculous.

If she somehow finds her way to F2 I have no doubt she will win, unless they are a very very bitter Jury. But she could of sat back week by week helped plan things and just not said anything. Her lack of social awareness and outbursts will cost her this game. At the end of the day she only has herself to blame.

It pisses me off because I was so excited for her prior to the season and then at the beginning. She's one of the best women stragetic players I believe we have had in a very long long time. I just wish she wasn't so all over the place emotionally.

Edited August 14, 2015 by SiobhanJW

[Deputy Deputy CoS]

Is it true she's saying Johnny could murder someone

I'm going need Becky to go basic on her ass. Where is she during all this anyway?

[Wings]

Go Johnny Mac!!! I want him around, if for no other reason than his placid demeanor coupled with his refusal to yes-man Lady MacV will drive her up the motherlovin' walls.

 

I love to watch him vote.  His latest was the best. To Julie, "what do you want?"  Hysterical.  

[slasherboy]

Hey bobthefrog, thanks for the info about Steve and his game not working correctly.  Appreciate the help.

[mooses]

Meg tells Austin that Vanessa was making deals with John...which was a plan they came up with as a group yesterday. But I guess he forgot?

 

Austin is getting worried if Vanessa wins HOH, his deals will be exposed. And if he were HOH he'd backdoor her. Which, he basically is, so bye Vanessa.

 

It's going to be the week the Austwins sunk their game!

Edited August 15, 2015 by mooses

[Ceeg]

Meg tells Austin that Vanessa was making deals with John...which was a plan they came up with as a group yesterday. But I guess he forgot?

 

Now says if he were HOH he'd backdoor her. Which, he basically is, so bye Vanessa.

Austin says a lot. He, Liz, and Julia all contradict themselves, on a daily basis. Sometimes in the same conversation. I wouldn't take anything he says as truth, until it gets reiterated several times and approved by several other people.

[CrazyDog]

I would almost be impressed if Austin were to win HOH and actually put Van up himself. But I don't think he has the nerve.

[Katesus7]

Yeah, unless Johnny Mac wins veto, and Vanessa really ramps up her dumbass game, no way is she getting backdooored. I think Austin would like to do it, but the twins know that leaving Vanessa in the house leaves the target off of them. Every time backdooring Vanessa gets mentioned, they go back to that point. She is their shield, and a very good one.

The worst part of Johnny's game is that I think he's pretty shy and socially awkward. Everyone focuses on Steve in this aspect, but just because John is not a total spaz(although he kind of is), it doesn't mean he's social. I see a lot of myself in him. It's easy to be a ham in the DR, where he's essentially alone, and I've seen him have many easy, interesting, long conversations with people one on one. But I don't see him trying to make an attempt to go into the HOH after nominations with (most likely) three people he doesn't feel comfortable with. I get the Austwins irritation that he isn't making that effort, but I also get his reluctance. Especially after being put through the wringer by Vanessa.

Also, he only ever seemed to talk game with Shelli/Clay, Becky and Steve. All other game talk pretty much revolved around him saying "yeah" a lot. Coupled with that him actually confiding in Clay about Vanessa ended with Clay blowing up his game, I get him being extremely reticent in going to anyone and saying anything about anyone. It's poor gameplay and will get him booted, but I get it.

Basically, his social game sucks, in the exact opposite way of Vanessa's. And his gameplay sucks, in the exact opposite way of Vanessa's. And yet I still love the goofball.

Edited August 15, 2015 by Katesus7

[Deputy Deputy CoS]

How the mighty has fallen. I can't believe Vanessa's closest allies are considering backdooring her themselves. Even Julia.

I am far from Vanessa 's fan and have never thought her a good strategist but I'm in awe at how thoroughly her game is fucked. It is one thing to have people she's not aligned with coming at her with guns blazing (Becky) but the three poeple she's protected all season? I hope they don't do it.

I want nothing more than for both John and Becky to survive this week but I don't want Vanessa to be taken out by her own alliance. She annoys me but I don't dislike her that much.

[mooses]

It's bizarre. Austin has watched so many seasons, and taking out an alliance member always ruins games. And I'm surprised Julia doesn't see it benefits Austin more than them.

Oh well - they're next!

[Former Nun]

I want him to win veto. I want the Austwins to have to sweat a re-nom. If Becky goes, that sucks for me as my sole wish list at this point is to get Vanessa off my live feeds, but I want him to stay. I don't want him to win the game, and he won't, but I like him, and I want to give him a big hug and tell him the mean lady will stop bothering him. But that's my personal issue :)

 

 

I love your entire post, Katesus 7, except I DO want JohnnyMac to win and have since the second week or so.  He's my kinda guy...sweet, smart, quirky, and funny.  Of course, I'm old enough to be his grandmother; maybe that's why he's so appealing.  Just call me Puma....

[perfectstorm]

Yeah, unless Johnny Mac wins veto, and Vanessa really ramps up her dumbass game, no way is she getting backdooored. I think Austin would like to do it, but the twins know that leaving Vanessa in the house leaves the target off of them. Every time backdooring Vanessa gets mentioned, they go back to that point. She is their shield, and a very good one.

The worst part of Johnny's game is that I think he's pretty shy and socially awkward. Everyone focuses on Steve in this aspect, but just because John is not a total spaz(although he kind of is), it doesn't mean he's social. I see a lot of myself in him. It's easy to be a ham in the DR, where he's essentially alone, and I've seen him have many easy, interesting, long conversations with people one on one. But I don't see him trying to make an attempt to go into the HOH after nominations with (most likely) three people he doesn't feel comfortable with. I get the Austwins irritation that he isn't making that effort, but I also get his reluctance. Especially after being put through the wringer by Vanessa.

Also, he only ever seemed to talk game with Shelli/Clay, Becky and Steve. All other game talk pretty much revolved around him saying "yeah" a lot. Coupled with that him actually confiding in Clay about Vanessa ended with Clay blowing up his game, I get him being extremely reticent in going to anyone and saying anything about anyone. It's poor gameplay and will get him booted, but I get it.

Basically, his social game sucks, in the exact opposite way of Vanessa's. And his gameplay sucks, in the exact opposite way of Vanessa's. And yet I still love the goofball.

Then why go on show like Big Brother - where a big part of the game is about social interaction - and making strategic moves.  I like Johnny Mac.  Nice guy.  But he really has done little in this game.  The same with Steve.

[lasandi]

Never mind.

Edited August 15, 2015 by lasandi

[Katesus7]

Then why go on show like Big Brother - where a big part of the game is about social interaction - and making strategic moves. I like Johnny Mac. Nice guy. But he really has done little in this game. The same with Steve.

Because Ian won. I really think his win opened up a door for other socially awkward people. And I think John is playing the game, in his very low key way. I just wish he would do a lot more.

And I already feel dumb about my lengthy post about him, because about five to ten minutes after writing it, I see John in the HOH talking all kinds of game to Austin and Liz. A day late and a dollar short, and telling them they made the right move is not the best gameplay, but he did go in there and talk gameplay! Yay! And you should've seen the look on his face when Austin told him how Vanessa was trying to paint the picture of Johnny being unstable and her being scared of him. He was absolutely horrified.

Edited August 15, 2015 by Katesus7

[bobthefrog]

Austin to Liz: "Unfortunately, Becky has to bite the dust unless she wins veto."

Edited August 15, 2015 by bobthefrog

[mooses]

Austin to Liz: "Unfortunately, Becky has to bite the dust unless she wins veto."

They'll switch a million times a day until eviction night.

I still think they land on Vanessa.

Edited August 15, 2015 by mooses

[Petunia13]

Because Ian won. I really think his win opened up a door for other socially awkward people. And I think John is playing the game, in his very low key way. I just wish he would do a lot more.

.

Ian had a lot of people* helping him.

I also think he was more conniving than any of the geek guys in the house. I never liked Ian and still don't. I think people have this good will towards him due to the stereotype of he's unattractive and an academic so he's just a sweetie. Those are such generalizations made about good guys. And very superficial. Truth is a lot of unattractive smarties are assholes they don't have to compensate for their looks in the niceness stakes - anymore than hot people should be assumed to be dicks.

*who knew the game and actually were good at it*

[ByaNose]

Liz & Julia alone in the HOH talking to each other. I.just.can't. It's like a skit on SNL. How did their parents listen to their voices without harming themselves? "I knowwwwwwwwa" "Whyyyyyyyyyyyya" Oh My Goddddddda". They seriously went to school?

[pennben]

Yep, I think everyone is officially done with Vanessa.  I see why, she has no "off" switch and has descended into this crazy conspiracy theory about everything.  I'm not sure how they switched to Becky as a target now, but she is. 

 

Currently, I'm trying to figure out which twin is which, I tuned in mid-conversation.  I think the twin in black face (which I initially thought when I tuned in and wondered what the hell was going on, but it is a facial mask) is Julia as she's talking about how she wants John to stay because he would go after Austin, not them (the twins), but Becky would go after them.

 

ETA: Oh, interesting, facemask twin is Liz, she's the one talking about hoping John takes out Austin after Vanessa.

Edited August 15, 2015 by pennben

[LoveLeigh]

never mind

Edited August 15, 2015 by DakotaLavender

[Vicky]

I agree Pennbenn.

Doesn't Vanessa now become the one to take to the end?

She is not well liked by anyone else in the house - and I don't think the jury will have any respect For her 'gameplay, when they consider she bullied and lied her way to the final 2

She's really made a mess of her game by continuing to scheme when she didn't need to.

I kept hoping for more from her.

I'm still interested In watching her think, but I am tired of her getting angry and indignant. Mostly I'm tired of the other people bashing her all the time. I find that to be just as over the top as Vanessa can be.

Edited August 15, 2015 by Vicky

[Nashville]

Liz & Julia alone in the HOH talking to each other. I.just.can't. It's like a skit on SNL. How did their parents listen to their voices without harming themselves? "I knowwwwwwwwa" "Whyyyyyyyyyyyya" Oh My Goddddddda". They seriously went to school?

 

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!

[Donny Ketchum]

I'm not sure how they switched to Becky as a target now, but she is.

John had a talk with Liz, Julia, and Austin, and through that talk, they realized that he hated Vanessa and would also go after her.  Despite the fact that Becky, too, would go after Vanessa, they've decided they just plain like him more and want to keep him, after all.

 

They do feel a bit stupid now for putting up two people they now know for sure would've gone after Vanessa for them and wish they'd put up at least one person whom they know for a fact wouldn't.  Unfortunately, that one person who wouldn't target her is Steve, and for some reason, Liz wants to protect him, as well, this week.

Edited August 15, 2015 by Donny Ketchum

[BK1978]

Because Ian won. I really think his win opened up a door for other socially awkward people. And I think John is playing the game, in his very low key way. I just wish he would do a lot more.

And I already feel dumb about my lengthy post about him, because about five to ten minutes after writing it, I see John in the HOH talking all kinds of game to Austin and Liz. A day late and a dollar short, and telling them they made the right move is not the best gameplay, but he did go in there and talk gameplay! Yay! And you should've seen the look on his face when Austin told him how Vanessa was trying to paint the picture of Johnny being unstable and her being scared of him. He was absolutely horrified.

 

I agree, I always felt that Ian's win was a more anti-Dan win.  I mean Dan played a hell of a game that season and should be a two time winner, but I think the jury was too bitter to give him the win again.

[TimWil]

I think a Dan win would have validated his "mist" and his "funeral." I can totally understand why the others chose not to reward this with a vote.

[Katesus7]

OK, first off, when I brought up Ian winning, I didn't do it to say he played the best game, or deserved it, or whatever. I'm just saying that him winning probably gave people like Steve and Johnny Mac more incentive to try to get on the show. That's the point I was trying to make.

Oh man, Johnny and Vanessa alone in the have not room (as they are the have nots this week, along with Steve). Vanessa trying to bond/joke with Johnny, as she should, but he really just wants to sleep (and not deal with her), and now there's a camera focused on her, thinking, stewing, wondering what is going on. 99.9% of the time, I want her gone, but I cannot lie. She is by far the most compelling person in this house.

[Nashville]

Oh man, Johnny and Vanessa alone in the have not room (as they are the have nots this week, along with Steve). Vanessa trying to bond/joke with Johnny, as she should, but he really just wants to sleep (and not deal with her), and now there's a camera focused on her, thinking, stewing, wondering what is going on. 99.9% of the time, I want her gone, but I cannot lie. She is by far the most compelling person in this house.

 

I can hear JohnnyMac's thoughts through his bandanna:    "This is going to be a long fucking week."

[Brian Cronin]

John had a talk with Liz, Julia, and Austin, and through that talk, they realized that he hated Vanessa and would also go after her.  Despite the fact that Becky, too, would go after Vanessa, they've decided they just plain like him more and want to keep him, after all.

 

They do feel a bit stupid now for putting up two people they now know for sure would've gone after Vanessa for them and wish they'd put up at least one person whom they know for a fact wouldn't.  Unfortunately, that one person who wouldn't target her is Steve, and for some reason, Liz wants to protect him, as well, this week.

 

Steve didn't go after them in the DE. I'd say that earned him at least a week of safety from them. 

 

As for Vanessa, yes, she is everyone's target, but we're getting to an interesting time in the game where:

 

A. The ADC is decimated and they don't have many people left who CAN win HoH and

B. The Austwins are going to look more and more like a huge target for any given HoH.

 

So when you add in the fact that she easily could win HoH herself this week, I'd say she has a decent chance of making it to the end. While I think there will be a bitter jury towards her, I don't think they'll be bitter enough to not vote for her. I think she's very much still in this game, despite how terribly she's played recently. 

[lasandi]

I agree Pennbenn.

Doesn't Vanessa now become the one to take to the end?

She is not well liked by anyone else in the house - and I don't think the jury will have any respect For her 'gameplay, when they consider she bullied and lied her way to the final 2

She's really made a mess of her game by continuing to scheme when she didn't need to.

I kept hoping for more from her.

I'm still interested In watching her think, but I am tired of her getting angry and indignant. Mostly I'm tired of the other people bashing her all the time. I find that to be just as over the top as Vanessa can be.

Vicky, I dunno if it's better to take Vanessa to the Final 2 or send her to the jury. That girl has misting powers like no other. I am still in awe how she went from #gonegirlgone to living to scheme another day. perhaps if Shelli hadn't stolen that damn Clay shirt from James thus alerting him to the fact she was holding a grudge, she would be in the house instead. Clay gave up his game for Shelli and she gave up hers for a fracking shirt.

[Petunia13]

OK, first off, when I brought up Ian winning, I didn't do it to say he played the best game, or deserved it, or whatever. I'm just saying that him winning probably gave people like Steve and Johnny Mac more incentive to try to get on the show. That's the point I was trying to make.

I understood what you meant when you first posted it. My point was Ian is an awkward socially weird geek who won but anyone who fancies themselves intelligent or a common sense possessor would look at the situation and think "socially awkward Ian win his season might not be relevant to me today....Since I don't have experienced coaches protecting and guiding me. And I might not have a bitter jury who is mad at expert coach making me the slightly less bad choice." So I don't think his win or existence on BB was a lure for nerds.

[BlackMamba]

Something tells me this 6 person deal will backfire more on Austwins especially Austin.

Right now both sides want to make Vanessa their target for next week because of what Austin is telling everyone since he's acting as co-hoh to Liz. But this deal is going to cause people to talk someway, somehow. It will hurt Austin the most since he hasnt been nominated plus he has a good standing in the house in both sides. He said even the deal to himself in hoh, at 250am BBT CAM 3-4 it's an overextended deal. Say if JMac comes off the block, then, James or Meg are the replacements. If Meg goes up James will be looking at Liz and Austin for blood. Vanessa wants anyone but herself to target the Austwins, James and Jmac would be those people since you piss off 3 votes in jury house.

Plus Vanessa still has the Jeff hinky vote in her backpocket from what Becky told her during her second HOH that Liz voted to keep him. I remember Vanessa even telling Liz and Austin dont throw in any flip votes for Jason and Liz didn't hide her pokerface at all, I cant remember if Vanessa caught it or not. Right now the Austwins want to keep Becky to gun for Vanessa but if this comes out it might set off the crazy. This could piss off Austin because he hated Jeff or any guy that wants to be near Liz.

Edited August 15, 2015 by BlackMamba

[Turtle]

This is the most fickle set of houseguests I've ever seen. They all plot with such conviction, and then two hours later do a 180. And then 90. And then a 270, just for good measure. And somehow they always settle on doing what I don't want them to do. It's insane.

I cannot stand Austin and I'm not crazy about the twins, and I fear that the F2 is going to be some combination of them. We're getting to point that three votes is going to be very difficult to overcome and they'll coast right on through. If Becky goes this week and Vanessa (or anyone other than Austwins) next week, it'll be down to seven people with only four voting. Even if one goes that week, you're left with an unbreakable power couple super late in the game. If the trio wins more comps, they'll be no chance to evict them. I know you all know this, but I can't stop obsessing about how colossally dumb it is.

Going back a few days, I think Vanessa is above-average in intelligence, but I think Vanessa thinks she is significantly smarter than she actually is. Her inability to recognize that anyone other than her might actually be thinking or planning or figuring things out is infuriating. And I think it plays in to her emotional outbursts- she is shocked anytime someone doesn't appear to be totally fooled by her "brilliance" and just loses it. I think her Jmac outburst is a great example of that, telling him that there's no way he figured anything out on his own. Or going off about how "illogical" Becky was being. It's kind of bratty.

[mooses]

Vicky, I dunno if it's better to take Vanessa to the Final 2 or send her to the jury. That girl has misting powers like no other. I am still in awe how she went from #gonegirlgone to living to scheme another day. perhaps if Shelli hadn't stolen that damn Clay shirt from James thus alerting him to the fact she was holding a grudge, she would be in the house instead. Clay gave up his game for Shelli and she gave up hers for a fracking shirt.

I don't think anyone will want to take her to the end because, yes, they hate her but mostly because they think she's been able to manipulate them. They see her as being a dangerous player and are basically giving her credit for anything and everything that happened in the house. No one will want to sit next to someone with what they perceive to be a good game resume.

Her downfall is her social game, but I don't think this jury will spite her for that if she gets to the end.

[LGGirl]

I want Becky and John to survive this week, too. Meg can leave anytime. Please, BB gods, let Meg be voted out this week and have the Austwins waste their HOH, putting a huge target on their back.

You'd think these dumb ass idiots would have learned from past mistakes. Not putting up who the house wants, ends up putting a big target on your back.

A Vanessa backdoor would be delicious, especially by the Austwins hands.

But, seriously, their best move would be to get James out and cut Vanessa at the end.

[ByaNose]

Somehow, I think Austin & the Wonder Twins (Activate!) will end up in the Final 3. Ugh! Of course, everyone will be the blame if there is a Final two of Liz & Julia. Why everyone would allow two family members to remain in the house is so dumb. Either way, it's an extra vote no matter what. And, if the Final 2 is the twins it's gonna be a boring finale night.

[mooses]

But, seriously, their best move would be to get James out and cut Vanessa at the end.

I agree. It's getting too late to worry about the rest of the house being mad at you - the rest of the house is the other alliance! The fact they think they're all good and dandy with them when they're a threesome at the bottom of the ADC totem pole is laughable. You're in power - of course they'll tell you whatever you want!

I know they're just trying to get through one more week but James is the glue over there and the strongest threat.

ETA: Keeping Vanessa around is bad for Austin, great for the twins. Vanessa was going to choose the twins over Austin anyway, and now this week he's leading the hate train. They could sit back and watch Austin and Vanessa go at it and still stay good with both between Liz and Julia.

Out of the three, Liz is the most logical target for ADC, but Vanessa would probably just go for Austin's head.

Edited August 15, 2015 by mooses

[Cutty]

Vanessa is a lot of things, F2 goat is not one. She would win the game against anyone if she got to the end. Odds of her getting that far now are slim to none.

 

Austin was talking last night how they've kinda backed themselves into a tough spot because they don't have a backdoor target anymore. They're good with everyone. Steve asked if he won veto if he could use it on JMac and they all said no. "Steveuuuhhhh, nooooooo". They want noms to stay the same so Becky can go, but that could change a million times from now until Thursday. They said that if Becky wins veto that James would probably have to go up as a pawn, which doesn't make much sense. You don't put a big target like James up as a pawn when you have Meg still in the house. Wouldn't surprise me to see Meg volunteer to go up if James' name was floated.

 

Anyway, things could get interesting if Becky wins veto. I still think there's a chance, albeit very small, that Vanessa could overplay and wind up on the block. But if Becky doesn't win it will probably be a pretty straightforward, boring week.

[mooses]

Anyway, things could get interesting if Becky wins veto. I still think there's a chance, albeit very small, that Vanessa could overplay and wind up on the block. But if Becky doesn't win it will probably be a pretty straightforward, boring week.

Ha! We've been worried about boring weeks since Audrey left, but the Bonkers Beanie won't let it happen. I think things could get ugly (uglier) between Becky and Vanessa if the nominations stay the same. Actually, with her lack of self control, they'll get ugly much sooner.

Edited August 15, 2015 by mooses

[LGGirl]

And we were worried that this would be a boring season! Thank you Vanessa.

The best thing about this season, is the lack of production interference. I'm sure there is some but not the blatant interference in the past.

And what happened to the season of Twists? Scrapped? Instead of interviewing BB contestants, Jeff should give us a look behind the scenes. Would love to know what's really going on in the head of BB production.

[Briana84]

Why do people keep saying that even if one of the Austwins are evicted there will still be a power couple in the house? Sure that's true if it's Austin or Julia who is evicted, but if Liz is evicted Julia will turn on Austin faster than...well this house changes targets.

Edited August 15, 2015 by Briana84

[dballing]

Why do people keep saying that even if one of the Austwins are evicted there will still be a power couple in the house? Sure that's true if it's Austin or Julia who is evicted, but if Liz is evicted Julia will turn on Austin faster than...well this house changes targets.

We've been saying this around here forever. The smart play for the rest of the house is to knock out Liz. She's the "point" of that power triangle, and without her to bridge the gap between Julia and Austin, Julia's going to remember how Austin was willing to throw her under the bus shortly after her arrival, and pay that debt back.

[Nashville]

I still think there's a chance, albeit very small, that Vanessa could overplay and wind up on the block.

At present, I think the only way V goes OTB this week is if (a) the PoV is in play for actual use, and (b) V threatens one of the Austwins within three minutes of the PoV meeting.

Goldfish memories don't last much longer than three minutes, after all.

The More You Know! ™

[Turtle]

Pretty soon, Julia will have to stick with Austin even after Liz is evicted because she hasn't really built relationships with anyone other than Vanessa and there aren't that many options left. Steve, maybe? So I guess she could try to work with Steve and JMac but one if not both of them will probably be involved in booting Liz. I don't know, I haven't been able to predict anything these fools are going to do, so I should just stop trying; they'll probably evict Austin first anyway, if Meg gets involved in the strategizing.

[Nashville]

Pretty soon, Julia will have to stick with Austin even after Liz is evicted because she hasn't really built relationships with anyone other than Vanessa and there aren't that many options left. Steve, maybe? So I guess she could try to work with Steve and JMac but one if not both of them will probably be involved in booting Liz. I don't know, I haven't been able to predict anything these fools are going to do, so I should just stop trying; they'll probably evict Austin first anyway, if Meg gets involved in the strategizing.

If Julia were to get HoH within the next couple of weeks, I wouldn't put it past her to mastermind an Austin eviction behind Liz's back. Sure, Liz would be pissed - incidentally, so would Austin - but I'm reasonably certain Thing 2 could settle Thing 1's outrage with several valid points:

• The Austliz showmance/power couple target on Liz's back? Gone.
• Liz and Austin distract each other in the Game. No more distraction - eye on the prize!
• More free time to FOCUS on working the other HGs.
• Less hair clogging up the shower drains.
• Etc., etc.

I'm certain Liz will fuss for every bit of fifteen minutes, thirty tops - mainly because she'll have to cook her own meals now. Then it'll be back to work.