S05.E14: Spend

[nachomama]

FLAMES! Flames on the side of my face. Omg I hate father PPP. And so sad about Noah. That was bad. Omg so wound up about this episode.

[BrokenRemote]

I also liked Tobin--at the construction site, the other guy says (of Abe, who is surrounded), "The son-of-a-bitch is still alive! What are you doing?" As Tobin lasts down some cover fire, he tells back, "making sure he stays that way!"

On top of telling Deanna Abe was the man for the job, even though it made him, Tobin, look bad. I hop if bad things go down he makes it. Maybe a friend for Carol, even.

[Dodginblue]

I'm disappointed that Pete's an abusive husband and father.

It seems like such a lazy way to keep Rick as the knight in shining armor.

Shane didn't beat the crap out of Ed because Ed abused Carol. Shane beat the crap out of Ed because Shane was angry how Carol blew him off after Rick appeared out of nowhere alive and well. Shane took his anger out on Ed because Ed was easy target given his abuse of Carol. Even then, people thought Shane went too far, but CDB certainly tolerated Ed's treatment of Carol.

 

That could be right, I just remember Shane pounding on Ed.  Which I still would say, whatever Shane's motives, it needed doing.  

 

P.S.  I think you mean Lori blew him off when Rick showed up.  And yes on that as well.

[vibeology]

-  Carol, why don't YOU kill Pete?  I mean, this is more your field of expertise after all;  dealing with shitty husbands.

 

-  Was Abe contemplating suicide?  Just amping himself up for whatever??  Didn't quite get his stuff tonight, pre-walker attack.

 

Last time Carol decided to kill someone she considered dangerous and Rick found out, she was banished, so I get why she wanted to run this one by him. No one wants another Karvid situation, least of all Carol.

 

I think Abe saw the birds, knew trouble was coming and was having a little PTSD panic attack thing. He's not been in a good place since he found out about Eugene and probably wouldn't have put up much of a fight for himself. Francine needing help forced him to lead again and once he started, he's a natural leader. 

[BrokenRemote]

I don't think Rick's being set up as a knight in shining armor at all. He's been made to look a little unhinged, and although it's his job or his duty or whatever, they've sowed just enough seeds of doubt to leave people wondering if he kills Pete out of a sense of right and wrong or for his own selfish reasons.

They've never really showed Rick as the straight-out, good-guy hero. It's always been way more complicated than that.

[Dodginblue]

I also liked Tobin--at the construction site, the other guy says (of Abe, who is surrounded), "The son-of-a-bitch is still alive! What are you doing?" As Tobin lasts down some cover fire, he tells back, "making sure he stays that way!"

On top of telling Deanna Abe was the man for the job, even though it made him, Tobin, look bad. I hop if bad things go down he makes it. Maybe a friend for Carol, even.

 

I didn't think Tobin was actually firing, he was just kind of standing there and seemed shocked when the other guy started moving forward.  But whatever, maybe I'm getting the two characters confused.

 

I get that it's honorable to 'fess up although not sure how he would have gotten away with a different story given the other people at the site could say what really happened..  And it might have been more honorable to actually stay and help the others instead of bailing on everyone.  There was still 3 hours of daylight.

[The Mighty Peanut]

Father Gabriel knows next to nothing about the ASZers. For all he knows they could be even more "satanic" than Rick and his people. Certainly no one at ASZ ever saved his ass when he was up on a rock or when he lead a herd of walkers back to the church.

I hope they bring up his cowardice now that he's gone full Judas between peeing his pants and crying like a punkass bitch.

Edited March 16, 2015 by The Mighty Peanut

[walnutqueen]

I took an instant dislike to Deanna and her husband, so I hope I'm not wrong about them. :-)

 

My love for Abraham and Eugene blossomed anew in this episode.

[Constantinople]

I don't get how Jessie has no identity outside of Rick.

IIRC, Jessie has never been in a scene that Rick also wasn't in, and the focus of every one of those scenes was how Jessie and Rick interacted, or how others reacted to their interaction.

 

In this episode we are pretty specifically reminded she is a mother, in a scene where Rick is not around, and we find out, again not via Rick, that she's possibly being abused.

So that Carol could tell Rick that Rick has to be the one to save Jessie.

 

And to those who ask why Rick has to be the one to deal with it--Rick's the constable.

When Deanna appointed Rick constable, she never said that Rick had the authority to unilaterally execute people.

Edited March 16, 2015 by Constantinople

[BrokenRemote]

I didn't think Tobin was actually firing, he was just kind of standing there and seemed shocked when the other guy started moving forward. But whatever, maybe I'm getting the two characters confused.

I get that it's honorable to 'fess up although not sure how he would have gotten away with a different story given the other people at the site could say what really happened.. And it might have been more honorable to actually stay and help the others instead of bailing on everyone. There was still 3 hours of daylight.

I'm re watching and just saw the scene. Tobin was definitely shooting.

It might have been better to stay and help, but it also might have caused problems, with people that were Tobin's friends feeling their loyalty pulled between the two men. I think his leaving made sense.

[Enigma X]

Last time Carol decided to kill someone she considered dangerous and Rick found out, she was banished, so I get why she wanted to run this one by him. No one wants another Karvid situation, least of all Carol.

 

I did not read the scene as Carol being worried about being banished. Besides, what real authority does Rick have in this place at this moment anyway? Rick kills Pete and will find himself banished. I read the scene as if Carol (rightly or wrongly) wants Pete dead and wants Rick to do it.

Edited March 16, 2015 by Enigma X

[BrokenRemote]

IIRC, Jessie has never been in a scene that Rick also wasn't in, and the focus of every one of those scenes was how Jessie and Rick interacted, or how others reacted to their interaction.

So that Carol could tell Rick that Rick has to be the one to save Jessie.

When Deanna appointed Rick constable, she never said that Rick had the authority to unilaterally execute people.

No, that's why I said he'd set it up to look like he had to, that something went down during his investigation. But Rick has the cover of investigating. Carol has no cover and is not supposedly carrying a gun, where Rick is

[Dodginblue]

When Deanna appointed Rick constable, she never said that Rick had the authority to unilaterally execute people.

 

Ah, well.  Maybe Rick's a believer in that it's better to seek forgiveness after than ask permission before.

 

Seriously, though, i hope Rick isn't the one to kill Pete if that's what's going to happen because it's going to be hard to believe that he didn't do it so he could have Jessie.  Depending on what happens of course, who's still around or whatever.

[CouchTater]

He saved Rick.  See Season 1, Episode 1. 

Yes, of course I remember Morgan and his son Duane from the very first episode.  His 1-episode arc in season 1 (and craziness in a later episode) didn't make much of an impact on me  And I don't know the actor from anything else.  Just trying to understand the love and excitement.  Thanks.

[BrokenRemote]

Ah, well. Maybe Rick's a believer in that it's better to seek forgiveness after than ask permission before.

Seriously, though, i hope Rick isn't the one to kill Pete if that's what's going to happen because it's going to be hard to believe that he didn't do it so he could have Jessie. Depending on what happens of course, who's still around or whatever.

If he hops into bed with Jessie right after, maybe. But I don't think Rick's mild looks of interest or the couple times he and Jessie have spoken have clued the whole town in on his attraction to her.

[Dodginblue]

Yes, of course I remember Morgan and his son Duane from the very first episode.  His 1-episode arc in season 1 (and craziness in a later episode) didn't make much of an impact on me  And I don't know the actor from anything else.  Just trying to understand the love and excitement.  Thanks.

 

I think seeing him again at the end of the Terminus episodes, after they had escaped, has gotten me interested to know where he fits in to the current situation.  When he was shown on the tracks, all geared up and looking at some carving on a tree.

[iRarelyWatchTV36]

Last time Carol decided to kill someone she considered dangerous and Rick found out, she was banished, so I get why she wanted to run this one by him. No one wants another Karvid situation, least of all Carol.

 

I think Abe saw the birds, knew trouble was coming and was having a little PTSD panic attack thing. He's not been in a good place since he found out about Eugene and probably wouldn't have put up much of a fight for himself. Francine needing help forced him to lead again and once he started, he's a natural leader. 

 

Good points.  I sometimes forget what happened in the past and then post right after eps.

 

I should have seen the deal with the scattering birds, but I just thought it was symbolic of something else (of which I couldn't figure out).  My bad.

[Nashville]

What's weird to me is that in another scene we're hearing Abe get told that's how it's done. "Tell them about our system, Francine." So is it their "system" that everyone fends for themselves and if you get left behind, too bad? And if it is, why did Nicholas and Aiden lie about their actions?

 

The people of ASZ are apparently bureaucrats (not surprising, since they're all from the DC area), and bureaucrats love their systems.  In this case, The System was apparently "in case of walker attack, get back to the trucks and we'll bug out."  And also in true bureaucratic fashion, anybody who doesn't follow The System is gonna get left hanging out to dry, and it's their own damn fault.

 

I didn't think Tobin was actually firing, he was just kind of standing there and seemed shocked when the other guy started moving forward.  But whatever, maybe I'm getting the two characters confused.

 

Oh, Tobin was definitely shooting; in fact, it was he who shot out the hydraulic line for the bucket lift, causing it to spill Francine.

[Dodginblue]

If he hops into bed with Jessie right after, maybe. But I don't think Rick's mild looks of interest or the couple times he and Jessie have spoken have clued the whole town in on his attraction to her.

 

I was thinking of me.  How I'm going to see it. That's all that matters, yes?  What my own personal reactions are.  Because they make this show just for me.

[minamurray78]

I expect Deanna to dismiss FPP as irrelevant.  Which would be pretty accurate.

 

I'm just wondering what kind of shitstorm will erupt when the Nicholas/Glenn/Eugene he-said/he-said gets started.

Well, what Glenn has working on his favour, is that Nicholas and Aiden had already lost people before: out of six, they were the only two to come back. This time, it was one of ASZ, one of CDB and Tara with a head injury.  But yeah, he's probably gonna cause trouble.

 

Well, we know Ed was abusive from before the ZA, but Pete, do we think he always was, or is it a more recent thing? It could be like what happended to Shane, whom I thought was a decent guy before, but the ZA was too much too handle and brought out the worst of him.

 

Also, I'm all for Eugene having found his nerve.

[BrokenRemote]

Man, Carol is SO tiny standing in front of Pete.

[lulee]

On rewatch, the cut from the scene of Carol and Sam to the revolving door of death and mayhem was really jarring.

 

Some really weird pacing this evening.

[Dodginblue]

 

Well, we know Ed was abusive from before the ZA, but Pete, do we think he always was, or is it a more recent thing? It could be like what happended to Shane, whom I thought was a decent guy before, but the ZA was too much too handle and brought out the worst of him.

.

 

i don't know that we know Pete's abusive yet.  We've just got Carol adding two plus two and getting four or possibly five or six.  The character's definitely coming across a little squirrely, what with the weird little friendship talk with Rick and the drinking and the shutting the door in Carol's face although all those things can kind of be explained by something other than he's a wife beater.

[iRarelyWatchTV36]

FPP couldn't have timed his little "untrustworthy Satan" speech to Deanna any better.  What with Aiden dying and the whole "Pete" situation awaiting to happen.

 

No doubt that Dickolas is going to say that the CDBs left Aiden and they knocked him out unprovoked.

 

Not sure what to make of Deanna's reaction to Tobin's report.  She seemed to be thinking Abe took over on his own initiative, and not took over because Tobin was a pants-pissing coward.  Bet he (& Dickolas) can't wait to attend a Gabriel-led sermon.  "Birds of a feather, flock together"!

Edited March 16, 2015 by iRarelyWatchTV36

[NurseGiGi]

I love Rick and he's my favorite character but I was so bored with the Jessie crap that I was tempted to FF through his scenes tonight and that's never happened.  I think they've very rapidly and clumsily set this up and I'm just not buying it. 

 

I'm afraid Deanna will believe at least part, if not all, of what FPP told her when the group comes back and her son is dead.  I mean, the community has survived this long and suddenly things start happening when CDB shows up (as we knew they would).  I want to see the reactions of the group when Maggie tells them and especially the reaction of Michonne.

 

Daryl is officially getting on my last nerve and the bike shot just clenched it.  I hate what the writers have done to him.

 

RIP Noah.  What a horrible death.

[Dodginblue]

I love Rick and he's my favorite character but I was so bored with the Jessie crap that I was tempted to FF through his scenes tonight and that's never happened.  I think they've very rapidly and clumsily set this up and I'm just not buying it. 

 

I'm afraid Deanna will believe at least part, if not all, of what FPP told her when the group comes back and her son is dead.  I mean, the community has survived this long and suddenly things start happening when CDB shows up (as we knew they would).  I want to see the reactions of the group when Maggie tells them and especially the reaction of Michonne.

 

Daryl is officially getting on my last nerve and the bike shot just clenched it.  I hate what the writers have done to him.

 

RIP Noah.  What a horrible death.

 

I think you could be right about Deanna's reaction when she finds out Aiden's dead.  Except the ASZers have been losing other people on Aiden-lead supply runs so presumably the rest of the ASZ crowd might not find the truth so hard to believe.  

 

I laughed at the bike shot because wasn't it in all in pieces when we saw it, presumably just a night or so ago?  He must have stayed up all night and had every part he needed fit perfectly.  What good luck!  

[iRarelyWatchTV36]

The thing I really dislike about the R/J stuff, is just how dense the writers think we viewers are?  If people were seriously still questioning whether there was a 'spark' between them after last week's cheek smooch, then that's them burying their head in the sand.

 

Did we really need a 2-minute scene - that did nothing for any storyline, let alone tonight - and then Rick staring at and playing with his wedding band after talking with the 'competition'?  Now adding in the obvious 'Pete's an abuser!' to open it up for Rissie in the future.  I kept waiting for an honest-to-God actual anvil to drop on my TV.

[Darknight]

Father Pee Pants is an ungrateful bastard.

He needs to keep his damn mouth shut. After Rick took him in he betrayed them

[catrox14]

I feel like I missed something big.  When was it established 100% that Pete is abusing either Jessie or Sam? Or is it just that Carol suspects that has happened and because Pete is a drunk porchdick, the conclusion being jumped to is that he's an abuser?

[Dodginblue]

Did we really need a 2-minute scene - that did nothing for any storyline, let alone tonight - and then Rick staring at and playing with his wedding band after talking with the 'competition'?  Now adding in the obvious 'Pete's an abuser!' to open it up for Rissie in the future.  I kept waiting for an honest-to-God actual anvil to drop on my TV.

 

I thought maybe he was twisting it because Pete asked him about Lori, about losing his wife, and he was remembering her and that was just a symbolic way to communicate that to the audience.  

 

Although it probably was to convey a message about Rick's deep devotion to and passionate longing for this woman he just met who's married to someone else and had her owl sculpture smashed and Rick can't solve that little mystery even though he asked around.

Edited March 16, 2015 by Dodginblue

[NorthstarATL]

I have NEVER liked revolving doors and usually go out of my way to avoid them! The show just backed me up! Poor Aiden and Noah! (I didn't like Aiden, but I didn't necessarily want him to die horrifically! Darn racist AMC, trying to balance the quotas! LOL)

 I love the consistency of Carol's own personal justice system. We go from suspicion to execution without making a pit stop. Remember when she encouraged Andrea to kill the Governor in his sleep? Love her or hate her, Carol does not waver.

    I wonder what Deanna's other son, Spencer, is assigned to? And what the family reaction will be to Aiden's death. Father Gabriel obviously sowed the seeds of mistrust. But, then , you reap what you sow. Hopefully he'll get what's coming to him. He's an ungrateful creep.

    I cannot believe I actually got turned around on both Abraham and Eugene in one episode! Good job, writers!

[Artsda]

Wow that was more gory than normal.

 

The Alexandria males are such cowards. Poor Noah. :( What a waste of Beth saving him. Now they're both dead.

 

When Gabriel needs his life saved again, the others shouldn't lift a hand. 

 

Carol's giving Rick an easy out to kill the guy he already wanted to kill for no reason than he wants his wife. 

 

Good for Eugene!

Edited March 16, 2015 by Artsda

[Sofie Fatale]

I am just glad that Maggie heard Gabriel so she can warn Rick.

I think it will be funny when Rick says, "I didn't want to tell you yet Mags, but well he's kind of right...we ARE planning to take this place".

Lmao

[Nursejen]

I love seeing Daryl on a bike, but it's so ridiculous to think he could be out scouting for new folks on the sly while on a loud-ass motorcycle.

Regarding Sam, I was thinking, "why isn't he scared of Carol after her wicked witch routine last week?", but then I got to thinking that it didn't phase him because maybe he is used to being talked to that way at home. Although, I do think Carol jumped the gun on assuming that he hits hit wife and child. Maybe she just has good instincts, but her jump to telling Rick he had to kill Pete seemed over the top. Which, I guess is in character for her nowadays.

And Noah! I wasn't overly fond of him before, but his death hit me so hard, as well as Glenn's reaction. I love Eugene now. I loved how absolutely terrified his face was when he was carrying Tara out. I hope he gets even more bad-asser. Screw Nicholas. I so wanted someone to shoot him, but i was thinking it would look really bad for them to come back without aiden or Nick.

[iRarelyWatchTV36]

Is it just me, or does this current set up make Rick & Carol look like "Bonnie & Clyde", w/o the personal relationship with each other? 

 

I don't really know the particulars of B&C, so I could be so waaay off its ridiculolus;  but considering how these two seem to want to kill anything that remotely threatens them or what they consider theirs... I just kinda get that vibe.

[Tippi Blevins]

So horribly, horribly fitting that Noah died in a revolving door.

 

Sometimes I hate this show.

[Dodginblue]

Is it just me, or does this current set up make Rick & Carol look like "Bonnie & Clyde", w/o the personal relationship with each other? 

 

I don't really know the particulars of B&C, so I could be so waaay off its ridiculolus;  but considering how these two seem to want to kill anything that remotely threatens them or what they consider theirs... I just kinda get that vibe.

 

Well Carol's been like this for awhile and I think Rick obviously knows he owes her a lot, with her saving them from Terminus.  It's not clear to me just yet though whether he's ready to accept her pronouncements on who needs killing.  In a way it's also kind of what Deanna's going through.  She's got Father Gabriel telling her that Rick is satan pretending to be an angel and she's got to process what that's supposed to mean and Rick has Carol telling him he needs to kill Pete and he has to decide just how reliable that is.

Edited March 16, 2015 by Dodginblue

[Disraeli Ears]

Count me in as another who thinks that the "Pete is an abuser" stuff is lazy storytelling. They are telegraphing Rick + Jesse so...yeah. Yawn.

Way to go, Eugene. I seem to remember him having a crush on Tara last season, ostensibly until he found out she was a lesbian. Too bad for him, as I don't think she will reward him with romantic love for saving her life. Maybe they can become BFFs!

Everybody hates Chris? No...everybody hates FPP. Poor Noah. I knew Tyler James Williams is supposed to join a new Criminal Minds series (and he will probably get a raise over AMC wages). His death was gruesome* and sad; I hate to see him go even though I figured it was coming. Also, TJW is pretty talented and I'm kind of glad he is going to a big network show, as he has so far been a glorified background character here. Mazel tov to him!

Also Glenn...*sniff* Great job, Steven.

*If I were on TWD, and knew I was being written off, I'd freakin' beg the producers to give me as gory a death as AMC would allow. LOL!

Edited March 16, 2015 by Disraeli Ears

[missy jo]

I was kind of bummed that most of the episode centered on a run, when they got me sooo curious about Alexandria last week. They don't have much time left to enlighten us!

 

I guess I should've realized that when Noah spoke to the architect at the beginning of the episode that he was a redshirt.

 

The priest has had a psychotic break. I hope Maggie discusses that with Deanna, in addition to warning the others.

 

I'm not remotely interested in a domestic violence storyline, and besides:

 

Pete, for all his apparent boorishness and implied abuse is indeed a physician. A trained medical provider at the end of the world.

 

[peach]

Carol reminds me of the Dread Pirate Roberts. And now Sam is her current Westley. "Good night, Westley, I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

[Armchair Critic]

I wonder if the actress who plays Tara is pregnant? She is looking a bit puffier.

[iRarelyWatchTV36]

TPTB have to kind of be trolling the viewers by now, don't they?  I mean, of all the available 'bait', the black guy once again is (one of) the offed one(s).

 

Arguably a bad one, but it almost seems like a running joke now.  "Dead Brothers Club" gets another fresh inductee.

 

 

(but that said, I will gleefully rejoice when FPP gets his due)

[BloatedGuppy]

It appears Seth Gilliam is rapidly headed towards becoming the third Wire alumni to get tragically underused on the show. I'm in a minority of thinking Gabriel was potentially a very interesting character...the morally compromised man of faith, a coward and a pacifist, forced out of his safe haven and having to adjust to the brutal realities of the ZA. There's a lot you could do with that. At the moment, it appears what they've chose to do with it is he's an unstable, ungrateful loon. Hard to imagine him carrying on with the core of the group. Perhaps next season they'll bring in Idris Elba for a two episode character who goes through seven abrupt personality changes in five scenes before being rapidly devoured.

 

Carol approaching Rick to kill Pete doesn't bother me. Carol is a strategic thinker, and she's been making decisions like this in consensus with Rick ever since her initial attempt at being unilateral turned out badly. Rick is the town constable and is empowered to carry arms. If anyone can present a murder as a justified shooting, it's Rick. 

 

Bit surprised to see Noah die, but in retrospect it did get telegraphed a bit. ASZ's denizens seem rather improbably hapless at the various tasks they've ostensibly been performing without incident for a couple of years, but there are only so many episodes available to get this storyline in motion. I do hope Tara makes it, I find her character charming (even if I can only recall her name roughly 50% of the time). 

 

Daryl has been getting the Spike treatment for some time now. Take a character who achieved cult popularity due to his caustic abrasiveness and brusque honesty, and turn him into a soppy pureheart. Michonne appears to be heading down the same sad path. The show needs to be willing to have morally ambiguous anti-heroes without either redeeming them (Daryl) or killing them (Shane). Black Hat Carol and Green-Eyed Rick are a good start, but I'm not terribly convinced the latter isn't going to have another one of his wholesome epiphanies and be back to his unblemished moral rectitude before much time has passed.

Edited March 16, 2015 by BloatedGuppy

[English Teacher]

Hypocrite, thy name is Gabriel. I hope his fate is worse than Noah's.

While Deanna is clearly nervous about the shifting of power, what difference does it make if Abe is named leader of the construction crew? Does he get a raise? More health benefits? A bigger and better stock option? In reality, Deanna is seen as the governing body and her people would be loyal to her.

I tried to read her face as the defrocked asshole spoke to her. He was more than a little crazy-eyed and with him spewing comments about Satan ( look in the mirror, you sniveling pariah!!!) she seemed to be looking at him as if he was a little nuts. I hope so.

Edited March 16, 2015 by English Teacher

[TrininisaScorp]

Very good episode! These Alexandrians are very, very useless to the point of literally being a danger to each other.  I can't believe their strategy is "cut and run"!  I love Francine decking the foreman....well deserved! 

 

Suck it, Gabriel. Seriously, you are the most hypocritical coward we've seen on this show!  Dick.  I'm glad Maggie heard b/c she's credible and hopefully she takes it directly to Rick and co.

 

Abraham and Eugene both proved their worth to me this episode.  I'm a bit concerned about Abraham's mental health, but I liked him saving Francine.  Eugene really came through when it counted.   

 

Noah!  Noooo!  He's only been on a few episodes and I just love him and he broke my heart.  There is something sweet and earnest about the actor's face (this is why he made such a good Chris on EHC, IMO).  Seeing him get torn apart like that was truly terrible.  Poor Glenn! Yuen's face was utter sadness and pain...so well done.

 

Based on what we are seeing of Pete and the Rick/Carol dynamic, it is going to be Alexandrians vs. Rick and Co. by seasons end. Hello?!  I don't care how many more Alexandrians there may be...it's an easy contest.

[Amelie06]

I'm disappointed that Noah was killed, but such is life in the ZA. I keep going back to that chick who decided to blow herself up in the CDC. That chick was right. All of this struggle and sacrifice to survive, only to have your mouth torn apart by zombies. It's not for me.

 

I really like the actor who plays Noah and I'd watch him on another show. Noah was just starting to gel with the rest of the crew. Glenn's reaction to everything was great. Noah really showed why he was a good member of the team versus Nicholas and Aiden. There actually may have been hope for Aiden, but Nicholas will obviously not be joining them. I understand that with a show like this, people are going to die. I just think the show could have handled his death a better way. Perhaps not so graphic. It kind of seemed indecent and disrespectful to give him such a terrible death and to film it so extensively. He actually would have been better off without Beth's intervention. I think there may be some kind of Highlander shit going on with the black guys on this show. There can be only one!

 

I just don't even know what to say about Rick's continued whatever with Jessie. I don't care and the fact that she seems to think she's on a different show than everyone else is annoying. She seems like she's in a Grey's Anatomy type of show. Some middle-class problems, type of show. I knew as soon as I read that the show was importing a blonde for Rick to have a love story with, that things could get annoying. What I didn't count on was for the story to be boring.

 

Deanna is clearly going to turn on the Grimes Gang. I just want a scene next week where FPP walks into his "church" to find every member of the crew sitting there and recklessly eyeballing that cowardly mofo.

[Yolapukka]

I think Nicholas, despite being a weaselly nothing of a character, has still made it onto my most hated list, cemented if he lies about what happened, which I fully expect him to do.

 

I think Father Pee Pants is now Father P-Piece Of Shit.

Sad and very intense episode. Knowing Steven was going to be on TD, I was very worried about him in that revolving door. I was coming to really like Noah too. Well done scene. I guess I don't really understand how these people lived well for two years and then everything they do is now fraught with danger because CDB is around. Did they never have problems on the construction site before? Did they never go somewhere with a lot of walkers to get supplies? Why is this happening now?

 

I think it's kind of like particle theory, they are in an area that was largely evacuated so they have not had much exposure to large packs of walkers, but as time goes on, increasing numbers of walkers are dispersing into their vicinity and are being drawn to their community by noise, especially the dubstep.

Edited March 16, 2015 by yuggapukka

[Tippi Blevins]

If Deanna were feeling more secure, she would flat out dismiss Gabriel's blathering. But what he said feeds into her own worries about putting Rick's people in positions of power. If she were feeling more secure, she'd realize outright bad people don't repeatedly save a damned useless whiny priest.

 

Either way, I guess it proves she's not half the poker player she fancied herself to be.

 

I hope there's a twist about Pete and Jessie. It seems so convenient, plot wise, for him to be an abuser that Rick has to take down. I hope it turns out Pete's the abused one, drinking to forget his own suffering, and Rick realizes he was wrong. 

 

I feel like Sam is like the flesh-and-blood version of Ralph Wiggum, somehow.

Edited March 16, 2015 by Tippi Blevins

[minamurray78]

They were given two houses for what were 14 people.  I'd be curious to see how they decided who was going with who.  If Daryl still hasn't taken a shower yet, there may have been a drawing of the straws.

Daryl's probably squatting at Aaron and Eric's garage by now, sleeping right next to that bike. He's somehow produced a leather jacket to go with it as well.

 

eta: concerning Glenn and the failed run, the fact that they brought Nicholas back should also support their version of the facts, I mean if they had really gone rogue, leading Aiden to his death, why would they bring back the only remaining witness?

Edited March 16, 2015 by minamurray78

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I feel like Sam is like the flesh-and-blood version of Ralph Wiggum, somehow.

Yes! He choo-choo-chooses Carol.