Small Talk: Only 2 Ounces Of Commenting Allowed

[auntjess]

Did everyone but me know that you can play Pac Man on google maps?
"Just pull up a map on Google maps. You'll see a small Pacman box toward the lower left. Click on it."

[OSM Mom]

28 minutes ago, auntjess said:

Did everyone but me know that you can play Pac Man on google maps?
"Just pull up a map on Google maps. You'll see a small Pacman box toward the lower left. Click on it."

Really?  Does it work on a phone or just a computer? 

[chickenella]

Its an April Fools day thing! I can't seem to get it on google maps when I try it, maybe the jokes on me! It's too late for me to be playing anyway. Maybe I'll try it at work tomorrow.

1 hour ago, auntjess said:

Did everyone but me know that you can play Pac Man on google maps?
"Just pull up a map on Google maps. You'll see a small Pacman box toward the lower left. Click on it."

[frenchtoast]

(Bringing over the conversation about pain relief personal stories)

When I had bunion surgery, they gave me some good meds and I was supposed to rotate the vicodin with the ibuprofen. The vicodin made me so sick I told the doc I was just sticking with the ice, elevation, and ibuprofen. In fact, I took vicodin when I got home (it's an outpatient procedure) per the instructions and ate something and I promptly vomited. When the doc called to see how I was doing, I mentioned about the vomiting, but it was most likely a combo of anesthetic and the pain med. Later on I took the vicodin again with food and I had to call my husband downstairs in the middle of the night to ask for ginger ale and ginger snaps. And that was it, I was done. I don't take that stuff from now on.

On the flip side, when I was hospitalized for cellulitis on my face they gave me morphine. Considering I had gone earlier in the day and they let me go home with the insert for IV administration of the antibiotic with instructions to come back for the next dose. Next dose and I had a fever and they were all, NOPE. You are being admitted. (When it's on the face they get real nervous because it can easily reach the eyes and brain, something I did not tell my mom). I think they gave me the morphine because they wanted me to sleep and that was the best way to do it. They also gave me the anti-nausea stuff first, thank goodness. After that it was just ibuprofen or something simple. And antibiotics. 

And all that talk of cellulitis has been making my face itch! 

[ethalfrida]

On 3/23/2017 at 5:06 PM, olivecolored said:

Vegan diets being healthy is a huge misconception. They're often high in soy and processed food. 

And carbs especially sugar which is what puts the weight on...

[spacefly]

On 3/18/2017 at 7:29 PM, AdorkableWitch said:

I understand quitting eating candy, cake, cookies, and sugar. But why no fruit? Yes, it has sugar, but it's got to be better to eat a crap ton of grapes than a huge piece of cheesecake. 

I will also add that whether I eat grapes, carrots or a cookie my blood sugar will still go high. Sometimes the added fiber of say an apple will help with how quickly the sugar enters my blood but I will still get highs with fruit as I do with "junk".

[auntjess]

21 hours ago, chickenella said:

Its an April Fools day thing! I can't seem to get it on google maps when I try it, maybe the jokes on me! It's too late for me to be playing anyway. Maybe I'll try it at work tomorrow.

No, I don't think so, because I was told last night, and it was there. These system requirements are for computer, but  if you click on android or iPhone or iPad, they'll show requirements for those.
"Computer AndroidiPhone & iPad

More

System requirements

To play MS. PAC-MAN™, you need to use the latest version of the following browsers on your computer:

Google Chrome

Firefox

Internet Explorer

Opera

Safari"

[Maizie131]

This is an amazing story I found in today's paper.  Check it out! 

http://www.wxyz.com/news/national/chicago-man-says-app-helped-him-lose-500-pounds

[auntjess]

On 4/15, World's Fattest Man, and Britain's Fattest Man, will both be shown on Discovery Life.
They're scheduled to begin at 8AM, and 2 hour-long episodes of each.
I know I've seen World's Fattest, can't remember if I've seen the other guy.

[ChiCricket]

On 3/31/2017 at 7:03 PM, auntjess said:

Since we have another big guy with off-the-chart pain, I thought I'd share this one again.
http://www.the-postillon.com/2016/12/world-first-specialist.html

Hilarious...my husband to a T when he has a cold!

[auntjess]

Buying Naked, a nudist version of House Hunters, is airing on TLC tomorrow, 4/7/17, 4 episodes beinning at 3AM ET. 
It's from a couple of years ago, and you learn that counter height matters, as do sharp edges.
I remember it as fun, and not salacious.
It also has a forum here.

[abbey]

Thanks auntjess.  Just set the DVR lol. 

[AZChristian]

We're doing a road trip next month, and will end up in Houston before heading home.  Mr. AZC is amenable to swinging by Dr. Now's office for a picture (of the outside) of Dr. Now's office.  :-)  He's such a good sport.

[crazycatlady58]

8 minutes ago, AZChristian said:

We're doing a road trip next month, and will end up in Houston before heading home.  Mr. AZC is amenable to swinging by Dr. Now's office for a picture (of the outside) of Dr. Now's office.  :-)  He's such a good sport.

Hope you enjoy your visit here.

[AZChristian]

6 minutes ago, crazycatlady58 said:

Hope you enjoy your visit here.

I'm sure we will.  Mr. AZC's hobby is visiting major league baseball parks.  After Houston, we'll have just ONE MORE to have hit them all (Pittsburgh), which we hope to get to later this summer.  

[Calicocats]

On 4/8/2017 at 11:00 AM, AZChristian said:

I'm sure we will.  Mr. AZC's hobby is visiting major league baseball parks.  After Houston, we'll have just ONE MORE to have hit them all (Pittsburgh), which we hope to get to later this summer.  

HOW COULD YOU MAKE US LAST??? We have McCutcheon!

[AZChristian]

1 hour ago, Calicocats said:

HOW COULD YOU MAKE US LAST??? We have McCutcheon!

Not intentional!  Think about it this way . . . we're making a special trip FROM ARIZONA to get there!  We'll be swinging past Niagara Falls to ride their new zipline while we're in the neighborhood.

[Cherrio]

On 4/8/2017 at 10:42 AM, AZChristian said:

We're doing a road trip next month, and will end up in Houston before heading home.  Mr. AZC is amenable to swinging by Dr. Now's office for a picture (of the outside) of Dr. Now's office.  :-)  He's such a good sport.

Reminds me of two little trips I (forced) upon my host when in Arizona.   First, to the Jodi Arias trial and a swing by Amy's Baking Company.

 Amy's was much scarier than the trial. We saw Sammy, then Amy and ran out.

[auntjess]

Somehow this seems to fit here.  A bill to exempt pizza places from some calorie/nutritional labelling rules.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/apr/11/shawn-vestal-mcmorris-rodgers-is-busy-taking-down-/

[notyrmomma]

OT Questions - is anyone watching the Casey Anthony special tonight? Anyone know if this the same special that ran on ID last week?

[Otter]

3 hours ago, notyrmomma said:

OT Questions - is anyone watching the Casey Anthony special tonight? Anyone know if this the same special that ran on ID last week?

I am!  I forgot about it on ID but the trailers are the same.  What a circus that was.  

[auntjess]

Saturday, 4/15 on Discovery Life (466 on U-verse), at 8,9,10,11 AM, 2 parts each of Britain's Fattest Man, and World's Fattest Man. 
I'm pretty sure World's Fattest is the British man who found a girl friend and came to US for surgery.
They may have files somewhere as one-offs, but I'm way too tired to look, and figure most of the watchers will see it here.
Good night.

[notyrmomma]

7 hours ago, auntjess said:

Saturday, 4/15 on Discovery Life (466 on U-verse), at 8,9,10,11 AM, 2 parts each of Britain's Fattest Man, and World's Fattest Man. 
I'm pretty sure World's Fattest is the British man who found a girl friend and came to US for surgery.
They may have files somewhere as one-offs, but I'm way too tired to look, and figure most of the watchers will see it here.
Good night.

Yes, there is a place to discuss this and I think it is in the one-offs section (I've posted there).  Would love to hear what you think about this dude. 

15 hours ago, Otter said:

I am!  I forgot about it on ID but the trailers are the same.  What a circus that was.  

So I think it was the same as the ID show.  I only got through about half of it because not only did it spike my anxiety, but I found myself watching it with hopes there would be a different outcome...and I realized that was insane, so I shut it off and went to bed!

[Tabbygirl521]

On 4/10/2017 at 6:58 PM, Cherrio said:

Reminds me of two little trips I (forced) upon my host when in Arizona.   First, to the Jodi Arias trial and a swing by Amy's Baking Company.

 Amy's was much scarier than the trial. We saw Sammy, then Amy and ran out.

I love you. 

[TurtlePower]

On 4/10/2017 at 6:58 PM, Cherrio said:

Reminds me of two little trips I (forced) upon my host when in Arizona.   First, to the Jodi Arias trial and a swing by Amy's Baking Company.

 Amy's was much scarier than the trial. We saw Sammy, then Amy and ran out.

Was Amy's Baking featured on Kitchen Nightmares? Seems very familiar. I seem to remember that place was so horrible people would come by just to looky-loo and lurk. 

[aliya]

Re the World's Fattest Man (Paul Mason) - I am FB friends with him. He had more skin reduction surgery late last year I think. He has been in an out of the hospital due to recurring cellulitis. He posts classic UK TV comedy clips, which is fun. I'd say he's getting along, but the cellulitis thing has been depressing for him.

[Cherrio]

4 minutes ago, TurtlePower said:

Was Amy's Baking featured on Kitchen Nightmares? Seems very familiar. I seem to remember that place was so horrible people would come by just to looky-loo and lurk. 

Yep, they were on Kitchen Nightmares twice.  Now out of business.

The place was empty, there was green slimey stuff (looked like anti-freeze) oozing out of her key lime cheesecake.

We didn't say a word which is unusual for us and left fast.

[AZChristian]

23 minutes ago, Cherrio said:

Yep, they were on Kitchen Nightmares twice.  Now out of business.

The place was empty, there was green slimey stuff (looked like anti-freeze) oozing out of her key lime cheesecake.

We didn't say a word which is unusual for us and left fast.

I wanted to go up there one day; it's about 30 miles from our house.  Hubby says, "I'm not driving 30 miles to NOT be served in a restaurant."  LOL.

[auntjess]

15 hours ago, auntjess said:

Saturday, 4/15 on Discovery Life (466 on U-verse), at 8,9,10,11 AM, 2 parts each of Britain's Fattest Man, and World's Fattest Man. 
I'm pretty sure World's Fattest is the British man who found a girl friend and came to US for surgery.
They may have files somewhere as one-offs, but I'm way too tired to look, and figure most of the watchers will see it here.
Good night.

And in addition to this, at 6AM and 7AM, there are 2 episodes of My Big Fat Operation, which I've never seen, but I think someone mentioned once.

[AZChristian]

There was a woman in Casa Grande AZ who was striving to be the most obese bride ever.  Last I heard, she was about 800 pounds.  Maybe she should meet Steven.  She was on Dr. Phil and (I think) Dr. Oz.  You could see her ears just shut down when they talked about what this weight was doing to her.  

I won't put her name here, but if you just google Casa Grande obese woman, you'll find her.

[Armchair Critic]

Don't judge me but I also post on the Mama June From Not to Hot forum. I guess I am a sucker for weight loss shows with obnoxious people. HA!

[Complexity]

On 4/13/2017 at 0:38 PM, notyrmomma said:

OT Questions - is anyone watching the Casey Anthony special tonight? Anyone know if this the same special that ran on ID last week?

I just noticed that the Casey Anthony special is starting again in 15 minutes. They're showing all three episodes back to back. Then it repeats after a 1 hour gap between showings.

[NeitherSparky]

About the Dimensions forum mentioned in the other thread: I actually joined on there a long time ago, maybe a decade, well before I had my gastric bypass, when I was trying to be more body positive. But guess what, at only about 250 lbs, I don't think I was big enough for them. Every one of my posts was flat out ignored. So I haven't been back. But I guess I still have an account over there.

[TicketToHellPaid]

On 4/14/2017 at 2:33 PM, DC Gal in VA said:

Well auntjess because of you, and because I'm avoiding doing stuff I really need to be taking care of, I self volunteered to take a trip down the rabbit hole on your behalf, LOL. And what a dank, funky rabbit hole it is. The one I found was our dear Pauline Potter. At least she was but, according to her, she abandoned the feeder lifestyle to get help losing weight. We all know how well she used all of the free help she got from Dr. Now, don't we. ;-)

Anyway, the link to a blogger's website discussed all this and more.

WARNING: The following link contains photos of her in various poses--not nude--but scantily garbed and may cause you to throw up in your own mouth. Remember, you've been warned!

https://phil.varlese.blog/tag/pauline-potter/

I anxiously await your reaction.

Just for fun, enjoy

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/obese-woman-loses-weight-marathon-sex-article-1.1116995

7 hours ago, DC Gal in VA said:

Oh damn! I mean WTF? Gee thanks TicketToHellPaid since I did actually click on that link and now I need to find a large, extra strength bottle of brain bleach to recover from the delusional weirdness I just read. You are a very, very baaaad woman and I like that!

Since we're discussing feederism, I think the following quote from one of the site's feeder/feedee (their actual description) threads will demonstrate the level of delusion I speak of:

"I am an FA. I love being fat and gaining, myself. I would love to 

see a woman gain for me. I would not advise anyone to go higher than my 
own level of obesity. I'm 51 years old, weigh 415 at 5'8" tall, and I'm at my 
body's limit. I'm diabetic and on oxygen. I manage my conditions properly 
and enjoy great health for a person in my condition. I have limitations, but 
I'm OK with them. I no longer desire to gain a lot of weight.
By using the infamous BMI formulas, I have determined that a
woman 5'3" tall at 330lbs or a woman 5'6" tall at about 390lbs would be as
obese as me. I don't desire a woman to gain beyond those limits for me 
and I'm attracted to women who aren't quite that heavy, as well. I'd be 
comfortable with a heavier woman, only if she was comfortable being that
heavy.
I am still mobile, but very much feel the effect of my weight when
I'm on my feet. I now know what supersize fells like from the inside and 
can appreciate the really big girls go through. I use bathing and hygeine 
aids.
I'm happy where I am and I'd never want a woman to get any
nearer to immobility than I am. Enough is enough.

__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Not pious, just saved by grace. Your true Christianity 
shows in how you treat those who hate you.

You got to lose to know how to win.(Aerosmith-Dream On)

Fat is like grass, it'll never go away and there's a hell
of a lot of money to be made by controlling it!

Life is only therapy, real expensive and no guarantees.

Fat is only ugly to those who hate.

Federal Pacific Panels & Breakers have known fire hazards!"

 

BTW, this guy's screen name is "imfree." Yeah pal, free of any semblance of common sense! Also, this post is from 2007. Since he said he was 51, that would mean he's 61 now. Wonder if he's still feeling healthy and free?

And another BTW. Would it be allowed to here to start a separate topic/discussion thread on this whole feederism jazz?

Anytime?  I keep going in for more? Guess I'll move to small talk, sorry mods..but ya know

[Complexity]

35 minutes ago, TicketToHellPaid said:

Just for fun, enjoy

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/obese-woman-loses-weight-marathon-sex-article-1.1116995

At first, I was absolutely repulsed at even the thought, then I realized it was no different than my reaction the first time I was exposed to gay and lesbian sex. It's clear they are enjoying themselves so who am I to say there's anything wrong with it? They're two consenting adults who aren't hurting anyone. So even though it is clearly not for me, I say more power to them!

Oh, and the part about him not breathing gave me quite a chuckle! 

Edited April 16, 2017 by Complexity
typo

[DC Gal in VA]

Now that I'm in the right place for all this feederism stuff, which is a whole nother weird world I had never heard of before joining this forum, here goes.

I brought over the following from the All You Can Eat Buffet topic. Thanks to that totally evil TicketToHellPaid and the link she posted to the Dimensions website, which IMHO has taken fat acceptance to a completely weird level, we have this from one of their posters:

 

"I am an FA. I love being fat and gaining, myself. I would love to see a woman gain for me. I would not advise anyone to go higher than my own level of obesity. I'm 51 years old, weigh 415 at 5'8" tall, and I'm at my body's limit. I'm diabetic and on oxygen. I manage my conditions properly and enjoy great health for a person in my condition. I have limitations, but I'm OK with them. I no longer desire to gain a lot of weight.

By using the infamous BMI formulas, I have determined that a
woman 5'3" tall at 330lbs or a woman 5'6" tall at about 390lbs would be as obese as me. I don't desire a woman to gain beyond those limits for me and I'm attracted to women who aren't quite that heavy, as well. I'd be comfortable with a heavier woman, only if she was comfortable being that heavy.

I am still mobile, but very much feel the effect of my weight when
I'm on my feet. I now know what supersize fells like from the inside and can appreciate the really big girls go through. I use bathing and hygeine aids.

I'm happy where I am and I'd never want a woman to get any
nearer to immobility than I am. Enough is enough.

__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Not pious, just saved by grace. Your true Christianity 
shows in how you treat those who hate you.

You got to lose to know how to win.(Aerosmith-Dream On)

Fat is like grass, it'll never go away and there's a hell
of a lot of money to be made by controlling it!

Life is only therapy, real expensive and no guarantees.

Fat is only ugly to those who hate.

Federal Pacific Panels & Breakers have known fire hazards!"

END QUOTE

 

As I said on the other thread, this guy's screen name is "imfree" and his post is from 2007. He said he was 51 which means he's 61 now, if he's still alive. How a person with diabetes, on oxygen, uses bathing and hygiene aids, indicates he has problems when he's on his feet, AND admits to being near immobility can say he enjoys great health is completely delusional, and kind of explains the level of delusion we see on M600PL.

Oh TicketToHellPaid, what have you gotten me into! :-)

Edited April 16, 2017 by DC Gal in VA

[Tabbygirl521]

I have started wondering if Steven Assanti is making a living from doing feeder porn. I mean, what the hell was the deal with the cream pie!?

[AZChristian]

10 hours ago, Tabbygirl521 said:

I have started wondering if Steven Assanti is making a living from doing feeder porn. I mean, what the hell was the deal with the cream pie!?

And the OTHER stuff he supposedly ate???  I'm NOT clicking on any of those links because I don't want to get links to places like that in my FB feed.  I'll just have to leave it to my imagination.

[LookABird]

On ‎3‎/‎23‎/‎2017 at 6:41 PM, QueBueno said:

I hope this is the right thread for this.  An interesting article about the costs involved with obesity.  The part about how much it costs hospitals to buy supersized everything was eye-opening.

Obesity's Hefty Price Tag - The Agenda

I've been watching this show for too long.  When I read that the patient weighed 330 pounds with a BMI of 46, I thought, "She is petite compared to what we see on My 600 Pound Life!"  :)

[DC Gal in VA]

On 3/23/2017 at 8:41 PM, QueBueno said:

I hope this is the right thread for this.  An interesting article about the costs involved with obesity.  The part about how much it costs hospitals to buy supersized everything was eye-opening.

Obesity's Hefty Price Tag - The Agenda

Thanks for the link to this article QueBueno. I knew things were bad, just not that bad. Simultaneously incredible, informative, and deeply disturbing.

[Calicocats]

I'm going to start a new line of clothing for the super obese.  UNDERWEAR...shorts, boxers, the works.  I can't bear seeing one more bare cooch on this damned show!

[Calicocats]

Continued from Kirsten's thread...

I have been a competitive runner most of my life.  I've never been overweight- never even close.  I tend to eat healthy most of the time, but if there is good food d and drink to be had, I certainly have it.  I know I will burn it off.  It always works for me.  I don't understand why someone would say, well you can't just burn off a bad meal.  Why not?  

Most people can't binge every day and burn off the binge calories- that is true.  Most people cannot burn 1000+ calories in one workout.  Some people can- for someone like me, that represents an average workout.  Besides, it didn't seem like people were saying it wasn't feasible- they were acting like it's not biologically possible:

Ive been around competitive runners all my life, and some of their eating habits would surprise people.  My brother in law will go for a long run (marathoner), come home, and eat a whole pizza.  He's never been overweight.

One girl in college, on our cross country team, was hospitalized with exercise bulimia (which, according to these posters, shouldn't exist as a condition- but it does).  She got so bad she had to permanently leave school.  She would binge and then run for hours- even after practice, she would still be out running.  (And our runs were hard!)  She probably weighed about 90something at about 5'3" when she left school.  So, it is possible to binge and exercise until you reach an underweight weight.  

It just sounds all like a bunch of excuses to me- "I tried diet sofa, but it made me gain weight."  (I drink it all the time.)  "I tried to exercise, but you know- it doesn't really burn off calories like people say it does, so I'm still overweight."  One of the reasons I'm watching these shows is to learn about overweight people- I'm trying to keep an open mind- but a lot of people seem full of excuses.  Stuff like this works perfectly fine for everyone I know. 

[Complexity]

37 minutes ago, Calicocats said:

"I tried diet sofa, but it made me gain weight."

I know this was a typo, but I couldn't help it... I generally find myself gaining weight with all types of sofas. ?

Keep in mind that everyone's different (which, of course, you know). People have differences in eye sight. Others in hearing. Some can smell so well that they can select wines that way. Some people have accuse taste. Some people can run fast and others not (I was born with a deformity in my knee cartilage so no running for me). Some people can paint portraits while other people can do gymnastics with incredible feats. Everyone is different. Is it really that big of a stretch then to consider that some people's physiology lends them to either remain thinner or thicker than others?

Edited April 17, 2017 by Complexity
fixing my own typo!

[Calicocats]

That's true...but if someone is exercising and they are able to maintain their weight- even with occasional unhealthy meals- it's because of th exercise, not genetics.

Lets not talk about those people who don't exercise and eat whatever they want and wear a size zero...we all know them... ?

[Complexity]

Just now, Calicocats said:

That's true...but if someone is exercising and they are able to maintain their weight- even with occasional unhealthy meals- it's because of th exercise, not genetics.

Lets not talk about those people who don't exercise and eat whatever they want and wear a size zero...we all know them... ?

If you truly want to understand, then it would help for you to try to empathize (meaning put yourself in their shoes, not sympathize) with people who have difficulty with maintaining a low weight. Finding reasons why their explanations don't hold water will merely reinforce your current level of understanding without anything new learned.

True, some people eat extra-large portions of unhealthy foods and don't exercise. But that's not all overweight people. There is an in-between. Personally, I took 9 months to lose 23 pounds in my early 20s (on weight watchers – which I eventually became a leader and coordinator so I know how losing weight works). I managed to maintain 107 lbs (5'4") for about 5 years. But to do that, I had to eat just one half-meal a day (e.g., half a sandwich or half of regular serving of food), usually for dinner. I did not eat breakfast and had vegetables for lunch (e.g., can of green beans, bowl of cauliflower). I gained up to 145 after having children because I didn't think my extra low calorie intake was healthy for developing babies. Over time (I'm in my mid 50s), my weight crept up to 175 (maintained that after quitting smoking! Yay!). I personally find it very easy to gain weight and extremely hard to lose it. My mother and one brother are both naturally thin. My other brother and father are naturally heavy. Guess who I took after.

I went on a trip with a friend who's thin and likes to run. She ate like crazy. I gained 10lbs in just a few days because she ate 3x a day. I ate things like salmon with asparagus, but I still gained. I can't eat that much food without gaining. She can eat that and more. We exercised together. Walked 10mi or more a day (I can't run, but I can walk). I know she has more muscle mass than me so she burns up more calories than me even when resting, but I also know my body never responded like hers. My body is more efficient in storing fat than hers is.

BTW, running isn't considered a healthy exercise. It is very damaging to the body. Walking is preferred.

[Calicocats]

There is nothing wrong with running.  It's things like this that drive me mad.  That's an opinion.  I went to a college with a doctorate program in physical therapy, so I knew/KNOW plenty of PTs.  Many are runners.

Read the Kirsten post, it explains more of what I'm referring to.  I'm not talking about overweight people in general.  It is in reference to specific comments made on that thread.  

FYI 107 is considered underweight for 5'4".  That's probably why you were struggling to hard to maintain it.

[Complexity]

20 minutes ago, Calicocats said:

There is nothing wrong with running.  It's things like this that drive me mad.  That's an opinion.  I went to a college with a doctorate program in physical therapy, so I knew/KNOW plenty of PTs.  Many are runners.

Read the Kirsten post, it explains more of what I'm referring to.  I'm not talking about overweight people in general.  It is in reference to specific comments made on that thread.  

FYI 107 is considered underweight for 5'4".  That's probably why you were struggling to hard to maintain it.

Yes, that is underweight. But my body wasn't thin at a higher weight. I still remember my husband telling me I was still overweight when I was 123 lbs after childbirth (married 32 years now and he has learned to really regret that comment). My two daughters were in competitive gymnastics. Young girls in leotards really expose natural body shapes. Some are naturally curvier (which appears heavier). Unfortunately, I was early to develop and developed on the larger side which gave me the appearance of being heavier. I wanted so bad to just be thin. I wanted to have that thin look. I could only achieve that by being underweight. Obviously, I did not maintain that lifelong because it truly is not healthy for me. But even at 123 lbs, I looked heavy. I've come to accept it over the years.

I don't know Kirsten's post (may have read it, but without a link to it, I'm not searching to find it now). However, if you're posting about one person in particular, then name that person rather than talk in general. If that is not permitted on this forum, then maybe it's best it not be said at all.

And running is very hard on joints. I know that from my orthopedic surgeons. They recommend walking over running because of the damage done over time to the joints. I started seeing them when in the 4th grade (first torn cartilage) and throughout the years (ended up with 2 surgeries). But I'm not going to argue the point as it's clear we each have our own knowledge and sources. Therefore, I suggest we agree to disagree.

Edited April 17, 2017 by Complexity
fix misspelled name

[ChristmasJones]

41 minutes ago, Complexity said:

I went on a trip with a friend who's thin and likes to run. She ate like crazy. I gained 10lbs in just a few days because she ate 3x a day. I ate things like salmon with asparagus, but I still gained. I can't eat that much food without gaining. She can eat that and more. We exercised together. Walked 10mi or more a day (I can't run, but I can walk). I know she has more muscle mass than me so she burns up more calories than me even when resting, but I also know my body never responded like hers.

Your comments made me think of this article, which touches on some of your points: NYT: A Mathematical Challenge to Obesity

"What new information did your equation render?

That the conventional wisdom of 3,500 calories less is what it takes to lose a pound of weight is wrong. The body changes as you lose. Interestingly, we also found that the fatter you get, the easier it is to gain weight. An extra 10 calories a day puts more weight onto an obese person than on a thinner one.

Also, there’s a time constant that’s an important factor in weight loss. That’s because if you reduce your caloric intake, after a while, your body reaches equilibrium. It actually takes about three years for a dieter to reach their new “steady state.” Our model predicts that if you eat 100 calories fewer a day, in three years you will, on average, lose 10 pounds — if you don’t cheat.

Another finding: Huge variations in your daily food intake will not cause variations in weight, as long as your average food intake over a year is about the same. This is because a person’s body will respond slowly to the food intake."

[Calicocats]

I was specifically told by the moderators to continue the discussion from that thread in this thread.  It stands to reason that if my posts don't make sense, or seem like generalizations, it's because people don't have the background of the discussion that took place in theniginal thread.

If someone says working Out doesn't burn calories, or that you can't burn off a bad meal, I disagree with that- if it is said by that specific poster, or anyone else who thinks this is true.

If someone says diet soda causes weight gain, I disagree with that.  Again, with anyone saying it- not just a specific poster.

If all of this is so true, how come I've never been overweight?  No one has an answer for that.  Must be genetics.  Maybe it's because I put in the work and other people don't?  That's where I get irritable.  It's not genetics, it is life choices.  So many people who are overweight don't even TRY- they just say things like, I have bad genetics, or my body is different, or I can't do xyz exercise, or I don't overeat...the human body is pretty simple.  If you burn more calories than you consume, unless you're some miracle of sconce, you WILL lose weight.  It really is that simple.

[Complexity]

20 hours ago, Calicocats said:

I was specifically told by the moderators to continue the discussion from that thread in this thread.  It stands to reason that if my posts don't make sense, or seem like generalizations, it's because people don't have the background of the discussion that took place in theniginal thread.

If someone says working Out doesn't burn calories, or that you can't burn off a bad meal, I disagree with that- if it is said by that specific poster, or anyone else who thinks this is true.

If someone says diet soda causes weight gain, I disagree with that.  Again, with anyone saying it- not just a specific poster.

If all of this is so true, how come I've never been overweight?  No one has an answer for that.  Must be genetics.  Maybe it's because I put in the work and other people don't?  That's where I get irritable.  It's not genetics, it is life choices.  So many people who are overweight don't even TRY- they just say things like, I have bad genetics, or my body is different, or I can't do xyz exercise, or I don't overeat...the human body is pretty simple.  If you burn more calories than you consume, unless you're some miracle of sconce, you WILL lose weight.  It really is that simple.

Okay, it seems we aren't understanding each other.

Edited April 18, 2017 by Complexity
removed snippy remark