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This is a reminder that the Politics Policy is still in effect.

I understand with recent current events there may be a desire to discuss political social media posts of those in the Duggar realm- this is not the place for those discussions. If you believe someone has violated forum rules, report them, do not respond or engage.

Political discussion is not allowed in this forum- this includes Small Talk topics. Please stay in the spirit of the policy- I have noticed a tendency for some to follow the letter but not the spirit.

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While we understand the frustration (change is never easy), please keep in mind that not everyone feels the same way and that for those members who don't, the ongoing conversation about other forums and chat options can equally be a cause of frustration.

Out of respect for your fellow posters, we kindly ask that you continue any discussion about alternatives via PM or the Technically Speaking: Bugs, Questions, & Suggestions area.

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GeeGolly

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6 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

I posted a rather long, and kind, post before I went to bed comparing our group here to what I found on FreeJinger yesterday. ( I found a lot of politics, bad language, and bad grammar (LOL)), and stated that it has changed a lot since I left there to come here.  I also praised our group for tolerance, kindness, and caring.  My post is nowhere to be found.

Its sad because we are all discussing how we would like to remain here and NOT go to other sites.

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crazycatlady58

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33 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

I posted a rather long, and kind, post before I went to bed comparing our group here to what I found on FreeJinger yesterday. ( I found a lot of politics, bad language, and bad grammar (LOL)), and stated that it has changed a lot since I left there to come here.  I also praised our group for tolerance, kindness, and caring.  My post is nowhere to be found.

Well , I guess FreeJinger is not for me. While I could overlook bad grammar politics and bad language are a no for me. I come here to relax and it is stressful to read the political posts and the arguments that are sure to follow. The bad language...I just don’t want to read it. 

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Salacious Kitty

Salacious Kitty

3 minutes ago, stewedsquash said:

I looked over the site. You can avoid what you want to avoid. It is a lot and seems easier than Reddit.

@crazycatlady58

Yeah, everything is compartmentalized. There's plenty of cursing here, too (guilty). 😀

The demographics there are very similar to here, female, older, educated. They do have more younger posters, so there is actually more diversity. 

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crazycatlady58

crazycatlady58

17 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Yeah, everything is compartmentalized. There's plenty of cursing here, too (guilty). 😀

The demographics there are very similar to here, female, older, educated. They do have more younger posters, so there is actually more diversity. 

I really have not noticed a lot of cursing here. I have known people who could not complete a sentence without a curse word ( and it was usually F*** . I hate that word .I did not stay around them) so that's what I was thinking.  If I can avoid the political talk I am good.  More diversity is good. I am old, 67, and just go to work and church  so hearing different viewpoints is welcome. see you there, probably. 

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AstridM

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2 hours ago, CalicoKitty said:

I posted a rather long, and kind, post before I went to bed comparing our group here to what I found on FreeJinger yesterday. ( I found a lot of politics, bad language, and bad grammar (LOL)), and stated that it has changed a lot since I left there to come here.  I also praised our group for tolerance, kindness, and caring.  My post is nowhere to be found.

Well, I do find it hard to tolerate bad grammar 😆

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Ancaster

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2 hours ago, crazycatlady58 said:

Well , I guess FreeJinger is not for me. While I could overlook bad grammar politics and bad language are a no for me. I come here to relax and it is stressful to read the political posts and the arguments that are sure to follow. The bad language...I just don’t want to read it. 

Was this intentional?  😉 ♥️

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Salacious Kitty

Salacious Kitty

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2 hours ago, crazycatlady58 said:

Well , I guess FreeJinger is not for me. While I could overlook bad grammar politics and bad language are a no for me. I come here to relax and it is stressful to read the political posts and the arguments that are sure to follow. The bad language...I just don’t want to read it. 

I  think some of the "bad grammar" you see comes from posters for whom English isn't their first language. There are a lot of international posters there, especially from Germany. 

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floridamom

floridamom

I remain confused and stumped as to why there is even a question about Counting On maybe being closed. I think we all are a great group of posters who have a wide spectrum on the subjects here. I have been here since 2014 and, yes, this is my private, guilty pleasure. I enjoy reading all points of view and different beliefs. We don't judge each other here for those differences. If this comes to be, I will miss all of you a great deal and since I am not very computer literate, I doubt that I will know how to follow some of you who choose to continue on to another site. It would be a very sad day for me. How do we make this not happen? 

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ChiCricket

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On 3/1/2024 at 5:27 PM, CalicoKitty said:

Something big is going on since the red light--and entire forum shutdown has happened all of a sudden.  I wonder if we will ever really find out what is going on.

Maybe the whole site got bought by fundamentalists of some kind? (that's the only thing that makes sense to me) hope I don't get dinged for saying this.🙄😝

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crazy8s

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I have thought about this for a few days because I was dealing with 2 urgent real life issues, one resolved and one very complicated.

I read the entire red light warning and then followed the poster for updates.

I was so confused. Without warning, we are "supposed to work together to resolve by 4/1" with no indication of what the problem is or what needs to be changed.

The link following the warning was soon closed to comments. But the need for "diversity" word salad was mind boggling.

So at some point a "survey" was done and found white women over 50 were the main commenters. I was not surveyed. No idea who was, like Primetimer site wide, just certain threads or what.

Given the Duggars are the topic for this thread, I would say the demographics for the show were older, white, Christian women with access to cable, and then the watch in disbelief, watch and snark types. TLC did not care as long as people were watching.

So how would we, as a forum, get who, and how exactly in attempt to diversify? People here now certainly don't share their  age, race, lgbtq, religion, marital status etc to join. Does diversify mean to included Duggar defenders? This is a snark site so...🤷‍♀️

I would say we are a fairly diverse group as far as life experience, career experience, living situations that are sometimes easy, sometimes complicated, religious affiliation and personal church history, past family or work history that is complicated.

Also, we are fairly diverse in what we react to, and comment on, depending on our own level of interest, knowledge of topic, time we have to spend on responding on any given day or whatever.

I don't have knowledge in many areas and have learned a lot from people in various professions and from the life experience of others here.

I have found we are quick in small talk to offer care and comfort to those struggling with a life situation with empathy, share related experiences or helpful resources  we have used.

The conflicts here have seemed minimal. a few feathers ruffled by misunderstandings or whatever. I have PMd people a few times on occasion about misunderstandings. If they are new, maybe offering context they couldn't possibly know or just "let it go, because within 24 hrs we will all be on to the next thing"

Various point of views are offered, but I have found most times if a polite differing opinion is offered it is responded to with "I never thought of that" or "that is a valid point" etc.

I would miss my community here and the collective knowledge of all things duggar and the snark.☹️

 

 

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I've had a really full plate lately so I have to admit I've not been able to pay a lot of attention to the inner PT workings as of late.  So when I read the writing on the wall stuff about closing the topic I was a bit surprised.  What a shame.

I don't post a lot anymore but I have to say I'm very thankful for you wonderful posters here.  If I hadn't been able to post under this topic and get the support I needed during a very trying time in my life.  When all hell breaks loose you need that couple spots of normalcy to calm your soul.  I thank you all for your support, it's been a great help.  Even if I don't post back or react, I've read the posts here in this sub especially and have enjoyed our time together so much.      

 

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Mindthinkr

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1 hour ago, zoomama said:

if you are all on FB, we could make a smalltalk group there?

I have never been on Facebook. 

 

1 hour ago, oliviabenson said:

I set up discord and Reddit for us to chat. Feel free to join, dm me for the links. 
 

 

I have tried very hard to do Discord to join in with a bunch of people I know, but for some reason that has never worked out well for me. 
 

Alas, this is probably my last refuge to chat. I would miss all of you dearly if this site went down. 

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Ancaster

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1 hour ago, oliviabenson said:

I never liked Twitter, but I do like Primetimer!

The closest I've been to Twitter is hearing or seeing a tweet quoted.

33 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

I have tried very hard to do Discord to join in with a bunch of people I know, but for some reason that has never worked out well for me. 
 

Alas, this is probably my last refuge to chat. I would miss all of you dearly if this site went down. 

I've never even heard of Discord, but it doesn't sound very inviting.

And "me too" to the bolded.  

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CalicoKitty

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Discord sounds like what we need--a place to meet and post.

 

I don't really think that we are being red-lighted because of anything we did in particular.  I think it was several people filing many complaints.  I get the feeling that the person in charge reacts instead of investigating, and complainers have figured that out.  We have not had the chance to explain the difference between a scripted show and a reality show.  We have not been given a chance to show how respectful and diverse this group is.  We have not been given any direction on how to "clean up our act".  The complainers have finally figured out how to shut us down.  Look at the Shopping Channel forum.  It disappeared literally right before our eyes.  On the Major Crimes forum, which is a green-light forum, NO COMPLAINTS was mentioned as one of the things that makes them a green forum. 

Our personal feelings do not appear to count for anything.  How is that following the guidelines or showing kindness to other posters?

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Anela

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1 hour ago, Ancaster said:

The closest I've been to Twitter is hearing or seeing a tweet quoted.

I've never even heard of Discord, but it doesn't sound very inviting.

And "me too" to the bolded.  

It's just an app to chat on, that you can also use with your browser. You can have different forums on a server. You can make calls with it, and have group chats, if you want to. Or stick with text. 

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AstridM

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49 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

Discord sounds like what we need--a place to meet and post.

 

I don't really think that we are being red-lighted because of anything we did in particular.  I think it was several people filing many complaints.  I get the feeling that the person in charge reacts instead of investigating, and complainers have figured that out.  We have not had the chance to explain the difference between a scripted show and a reality show.  We have not been given a chance to show how respectful and diverse this group is.  We have not been given any direction on how to "clean up our act".  The complainers have finally figured out how to shut us down.  Look at the Shopping Channel forum.  It disappeared literally right before our eyes.  On the Major Crimes forum, which is a green-light forum, NO COMPLAINTS was mentioned as one of the things that makes them a green forum. 

Our personal feelings do not appear to count for anything.  How is that following the guidelines or showing kindness to other posters?

If only the complainers would just go away. If they don’t like it here, they don’t have to stay 🤷‍♀️

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CalicoKitty

CalicoKitty

1 hour ago, ChiCricket said:

Is it posting in real time though? I don't think I'd like that. I just like to read and post when I get around to it in my own sweet time. (But I'm sure that for those who want to chat in real time it would be a good place for them.)

I really have no idea.  I had never heard of the site until yesterday.  I would hope the posts are readable at any time, like this site.  But you have a good point, and we need to find out more.

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Iguessnot

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35 minutes ago, Joan of Argh said:

I decided to ask for help with the titles for the locked threads.

I’m hoping it will be seen as a first step good faith gesture that we want to keep this forum and we’re willing to work towards turning it green.  💚

Those titles have been around for years. If the new mods are so offended, they can change them into something dull. No need to put the thread under detention for something they have no control over.

I have no words for the fever dream guidelines. We are all now offenders, but have no ideal what we did and to whom.

But I will offer my views on this forum. I never liked the Duggars or that Jill Rodriques character and I enjoy reading the snark. But this forum often seems like a platform for Karens in training. Sometimes the level of relentless hounding of non important issues. makes folks appear unbalanced.

I would hope this site continues, but with the back to back shutdowns and incomprehensible new guidelines, who knows?

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GeeGolly

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Good Monday Morning STers!

Lets hope our weekend spent in the red light zone, has been much ado about nothing.

This confusion and lockdown has, in a small way, reminded me of the confusion and lockdown during the early days and months of the pandemic. This thread, this community of STers, was a soft place to land to feel less confused, less alone and a place to have some normalcy in our days, when it seemed the whole world was figuring out what our lives would look like. And it still is that place.

Its my hope the Duggar threads (and PT) remain open and we can continue laughing, sharing, supporting and yes, snarking together, for many years to come.

Today is a good day to have a good day. 💚

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quarks

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9 hours ago, ChiCricket said:

Is it posting in real time though? I don't think I'd like that. I just like to read and post when I get around to it in my own sweet time. (But I'm sure that for those who want to chat in real time it would be a good place for them.)

If you've ever used Slack, Discord is somewhat similar, although in my experience less user-friendly. You can post in real time, but also scroll back and catch up on conversations. 

It's also somewhat similar to Reddit, in that the quality/enjoyment of using any given Discord is heavily dependent on that particular Discord, the number of members, and the moderation. I've usually found little Discords (like ten people) to be ok, and larger discords (100 or more) to be virtually impossible for me to use.

That said I am not exactly the most tech-savvy person out there. I suspect people who are better with computers than I am (which, let's face it, is almost everyone) have a better time on Discord and/or find it easier to use.

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This is a reminder that the Politics Policy is still in effect.

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Political discussion is not allowed in this forum- this includes Small Talk topics. Please stay in the spirit of the policy- I have noticed a tendency for some to follow the letter but not the spirit.

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