"The View": Week of 10/13/14

[RogerFromOhio]

I thought they looked lovely wearing the purple-themed clothes today.  I wonder if it was just a coincidence that Whoopi had purple in her shoes. 

no coincidence.... the purple was a "Stand against bullying" statement

http://www.glaad.org/spiritday

[Vinyasa]

I'm starting to tune out Rosie Perez because I just can't listen to her voice anymore. But she is making me like Nicolle a lot more.

[LoveIsJoy]

I've watched The View every year from the very first episode.  While there is certainly room for improvement, I have to say it's been years since I've been able to watch the show from beginning to end and actually enjoy it.  Yes, Ro might make a face into the camera when she walks out but it's brief and done.  I no longer have to fast forward past the prepubescent-sounding announcer, the Sherri Shimmy-and-Squirm, or Jenny's 1990s Raise-the-Roof gestures to the tune of teenybopper pop music intros.  Nowadays, the ladies just basically walk in and sit down like normal women.

 

I also appreciate that I can enjoy an interview without being distracted by Elisabeth lifting her skirt and shoving her legs into the camera shot as though they were some work of art more important than anything that was being discussed.  That used to annoy me to no end.  Rosie and Nicolle have been wearing beautiful dresses but don't work overtime to bring attention to themselves.  Further, whoever decided to ditch the ping pong style, five-host interview format has made one of the best changes in the show.  It was always so frustrating watching a guest valiantly trying to manage the bombardment of scripted questions from hosts who hadn't bothered to do the research.  With only two (prepared) hosts doing the job, I get so much more enjoyment out of that segment of the show.

 

And power to Rosie P for bringing a  Latin perspective that's been sorely missing from network TV.  I'm glad she feels she can bring up issues of racial inequality/insensitivity because it's an important topic.  True, some people may tire of hearing about it, but some people of color are tired of living it.  Same for Rosie O and LGBT issues, and for Nicolle identifying herself as Republican.  I'm neither hispanic, gay, nor right-wing, but as long as it's an intelligent, respectful discussion,  I'm all for hearing each of their perspectives.  I'm sure they don't go around noting their latina/gay/republican labels in their private lives, but I don't see a problem with the hosts representing a niche in a public platform.

 

There are still nits to pick for sure, but overall it's been a great start.  All of the hosts that I've enjoyed have had weaknesses for sure (Joy and her stale, pre-planned jokes come to mind, but I still love her).  Wednesday's show was nice from start to infomercial (at which point I bailed) and yes, Whoopi has become the weakest link at this point (IMO).  It wouldn't be The View if there wasn't someone to snark about.  I hope Whoopi can get it together soon or that one of the producers can intervene on the audience's behalf.

[Former Nun]

I've no real idea of her sexual orientation, or spouse, or kids. When she has spoken that I've heard, she pretty much speaks in general terms.

 

 

Rosie P was married to a (male) filmmaker for ten years.  Now she's married to a successful (male) graffiti artist-turned designer.  On today's show she said she wanted to have children but simply "waited too long" while forging a career.

 

Notice.... Rosie ignored the camera when she walked out today.... now if only Whoopi could get rid of the umhuhs

 

 

Power to the PTV-People, RogerfromOhio!   I noticed that too...a welcome change, but is it permanent?

[Vinyasa]

Notice.... Rosie ignored the camera when she walked out today...

 

Her wife doesn't like it when she makes the faces at the camera

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BT9-fGya14&feature=youtu.be&list=UUfj4uFo9vI8fmM8MgP9Ze6g

[maggiemae]

No, Nicolle is not reasonable on MJ....just this morning she was going on about the 20 year old movie OutBreak about an outbreak of Ebola that was airborne....some fear inducing crap like that about movies and the fear taking over. I saw a clip of it on MJ facebook. I noticed she didn't bring the movies up on this show later this morning, lol.

[ChicagoCita]

There are still nits to pick for sure, but overall it's been a great start.

 

I was unexpectedly away from home for three months (July through the beginning of October) (my elderly mother took a fall, broke some bones and needed someone to be with her), and I totally forgot that my DVR would be merrily recording away the whole time I was gone.  I ditched a bunch of stuff when I got home, but have been watching at least the Hot Topics portion of every View show since the new cast came on.  I can't believe I'm finding it this enjoyable again.  The huge disappointment I felt at this time last year, when it turned out that the previous season's "new direction" was to make it even more fluffy and unwatchable, is totally gone.  I feel like -- for the first time in years -- I'm spending time with adults, with the sort of people I like being with in real life.  Kudos to a complete revamp.

 

Today's show: Sometimes Alan Cummings is a bit too twee for me in his interviews, but this was a good one... I will be on the lookout for his book.  I knew it was Spirit Day, but totally missed that everyone was wearing purple.  Brah-vo!

[RogerFromOhio]

Since they have been taking about Ebola on The View.... as well as every place else..... I figured this would be important to share.

 

Shepard Smith gives facts... take 3 minutes and watch the video

[maryis1]

Welcome back ChicagoCita. I've always enjoyed your comments on the old TWOP forum and here as well. Yes, it seems like a whole new show now and I am liking it as well.

PS, I saw today's episode and heard what Rosie P had to say about putting of childbearing and learning that she was not able to have children now. I thought Whoopi's comment about her having two eggs left that she would give to Rosie P was done is such an endearing manner.

 

BTW, it is a big deal when a Latina woman goes against the grain and tradition and puts her career first. That is not a "norm" in the Hispanic or Latin community. She didn't add that to the discussion but statistics reveal that choice to be one that is unusual.

[SanDiegoInExile]

So it's still  "a whole new View" according to the announcer.

 

It's going to be a "whole new View" at least through this season, maybe all the way until big-bash Season Twenty begins in a few years.  It's silly, but it's marketing in the 2000s.  Nearly every major city has a radio station that still calls itself "new" anywhere from 2-5 years after they re-branded.  

[TribbleTrouble]

The look on RP's face when RO dropped the a**hole bomb was priceless. Teehee. :)

[RedheadZombie]

It was a female doctor.

 

In an episode of All in the Family, Mike tells a riddle.  A man is driving in his car with his son.  They have an accident and the son is rushed to surgery.  The surgeon walks in and says, "I cannot do the surgery.  This child is my son".  How can that be?

 

No one guessed.  That show was more than thirty years ago.  I've used that riddle over the years, and people never guess the answer.  I bet some people will say, "He has two dads - a gay couple", rather than guess that the surgeon is a woman.

[Morbs]

Rosie is also aware of the criticism that she is too toned down... she posted this on Ask Ro.

 

Cape Codder writes:October 16, 2014 9:57 pm

Is it me or are you uber reticent and quiet on The View? Seems too like the camera rarely shows you. I'm back watching now that issues of substance have returned to hot topics, but would love to see you participate more and join in the repartee. Would never think you'd need to be urged to assert yourself more and let your sense of humor fly!

yes

i have been told this b4

art isn't easy

Edited October 17, 2014 by Morbs

[maryis1]

Whoopi mentioned earlier this week that she saw Sherri on Broadway. The trailer came out for "Top Five" Chris Rock's new movie. I was surprised to see that Whoopi had a part in the movie as well as Sherri. They both appear in the trailer.

[Bronzedog]

During the Dear White People segment I found it interesting that black people have reached out and touched my white hair, but, I have never reached over and touched a black person's hair. Didn't know that was a thing that white people do.

[RogerFromOhio]

It will be interesting to see if the media picks up on this Rosie O comment.....

 

John Grisham made a comment in an interview about "men his age" ... in their 60s... are in jail for child porn. He said many found child porn by "accidentally" clicking the wrong button.

 

He later apologized for his comments

 

Rosie O said.... I accept his apology, but I don't agree with his BS statement.... people don't accidentally find child porn. Then she said... If I were the police I would be checking John Grisham's hard drive.

 

She makes a good point

This site has his statement

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/10/16/in-defense-of-john-grisham/

 

This site has his apology

http://www.jgrisham.com/

[Bronzedog]

That was Rosie O at her best. She's absolutely right, too. You don't just stumble onto child porn websites. It will be interesting to see if Grisham responds.

[Medicine Crow]

Whoa, the Whoopster sure has planted herself firmly behind legalizing hemp oil as medication for epileptic children in the U.S.  I've never seen her so worked up to this degree about anything before.  Go Whoopi!!!

[Bronzedog]

Thought the entire show was great!

[Fisher King]

Absolutely great show today!  Remember when pre-taped Fridays were always especially groan-inducing?  

 

Nicolle is really growing on me. She's still settling in as far as the celebrity aspect, interviewing, etc., but she can actually articulate points at times. She is light years above Bitsy.

[Medicine Crow]

Absolutely great show today!  Remember when pre-taped Fridays were always especially groan-inducing?  

 

Nicolle is really growing on me. She's still settling in as far as the celebrity aspect, interviewing, etc., but she can actually articulate points at times. She is light years above Bitsy.

Agree totally!!

 

It's nice to see a bunch of women who can speak extemporaneously on any subject presented to them.  (A far cry from the old bunch who had prepared blurbs, opinions & had to read them from "notes".)  Even Whoopi, when she cares, can speak intelligently!!

[Stacee]

The View Nicolle and Morning Joe Nicolle seem to be two different people. I get that she has to wear two faces - I mean I'm sure that's a big reason she landed the host slot - but I am still not enamored with her. I agree she is wayyy better than Hasselbeck (bar was low to begin with) but I notice that when she interviews she has a tendency to ramble or talk about herself when asking a question.

I absolutely love her hair though and the makeup and lighting crew is especially flattering to her.

I guess as long as she holds in the Morning Joe cray for that hour, she'll be alright.

 

The Good Wife actor yesterday was a joy. I loved that part of the interview and I found it endearing that both Rosie O and Rosie P have personally interacted with him. I'm not familiar with his work but he seemed like a really smart and talented guy (loved the snip about his after Broadway show parties) 

I would definitely be interested in reading his book.

Edited October 17, 2014 by Stacee

[Haleth]

Loved, loved that when asked what they are watching no one brought up any housewives, bachelors, dancing stars, or Kardashians. Imagine that.

Intelligent women discussing intelligent topics and people are watching. Take that, Geddie!

[susieq147]

Intelligent women discussing intelligent topics and people are watching. Take that, Geddie!

 

 

This.

 

Barbara and Bill Geddie both had such a negative view of what it's audience wanted to see.  I think in Barbara's case she just assumed anyone watching the View was probably "one of the little people" and only cared about sex surveys and reality shows.  But I think with Geddie it was all part of the conservative right wing continuing to dumb down America making it easier for them to push their agenda. But without his mouthpiece Elisabeth there wasn't a co-host there to do that so last year was all about fluff.  With him gone I do think the View might stand a chance of actually contributing something meaningful and relevant to daytime television.  But ask me after the midterms and I might change my mind.  LOL

Edited October 17, 2014 by susieq147

[Cosmocrush]

I absolutely love her [Nicolle's]hair though and the makeup and lighting crew is especially flattering to her.

I am mesmerized by her hair: the color, the cut, the style, even the hairspray that allows it to move but stay in place!    I generally love her clothes too but not the over the knee boots.

 

And as long as I'm in the shallow end, I had to laugh at Whoopi pointing out that she was wearing the same clothes as "yesterday" because she pretty much wears a white shirt every day so if she hadn't said anything I'm not sure anyone would notice.   And after all her bitching they got rid of the comfortable chairs and coffee table and basically went back to the same setup as last year and yet she still can't sit there without looking like she's straddling a horse.  Or maybe she's just on my last nerve. 

 

The Alan Cumming interview was a surprising delight to me because while I knew he was on Broadway and  I've seen every single episode of The Good Wife, I never even knew he had an accent or was Scottish or anything.   I'll probably read his book too, since I love his acting on TGW.  

[TribbleTrouble]

During the Dear White People segment I found it interesting that black people have reached out and touched my white hair, but, I have never reached over and touched a black person's hair. Didn't know that was a thing that white people do.

Nor did I. I've never seen or even heard of that being a thing, except possibly between very young children encountering each other's physical differences for the first time. That's a pretty obnoxious invasion of personal space sort of like touching a pregnant woman's belly.

[SistaLadybug]

It (White people, most particularly White women touching my hair) has happened to me many times over the years.  It's usually without seeking my consent, almost as if it hasn't occurred to them that I might not want to be touched.  Folks walk behind me and just stroke my locs.  I've had some pull on them as they walk past.  I very firmly tell any person who does such a thing that should they touch my hair again, it won't go well for them.  Some people at least have the decency to ask, but their request is declined.  I am not a dog and don't wish to be petted. 

 

I had one woman tell me I hurt her feelings because I wouldn't allow her to touch me whenever she wants.  I told her that she better be glad that her feelings are all I hurt.

[Bronzedog]

That's weird. Never knew people did that.

[ChicagoCita]

The Alan Cumming interview was a surprising delight to me because while I knew he was on Broadway and  I've seen every single episode of The Good Wife, I never even knew he had an accent or was Scottish or anything.   I'll probably read his book too, since I love his acting on TGW.

 

I kind of got off the fan train after he started wearing kilts everywhere a few years back and named his signature fragrance "Cumming."  However, I was impressed by his interview yesterday, and the book sounds interesting, so I'm tentatively back on board.  Will try to find a copy of the book.  I too enjoyed hearing how he decorated his dressing room fire escapes.

 

It (White people, most particularly White women touching my hair) has happened to me many times over the years.

 

I'll admit it, I have asked, and touched, my mixed-race nephews' hair! ;-)  But only because it's pretty, and they were the first in our family to have it, and as such -- kind of a novelty.  Now that they're teenagers, and no longer the only mixed-race kids at the family reunions, that's not happening any more.  I've touched my (white) nieces' purple Kool-Aid hair and my (white) nieces' dreadlocks, too.  All part of the "not part of my experience growing up and I'm curious" category. However, I would never touch any body part on any adult, particularly not someone I'm intimately acquainted with, without an invitation.  (Which, frankly, I would be a little freaked out by.... "Hey, CC, feel like touching my hair?")

Edited October 17, 2014 by ChicagoCita

[Former Nun]

Whoopi mentioned earlier this week that she saw Sherri on Broadway.

 

 

...and I don't recall a positive or negative critique.  She certainly didn't say that Sherri was fabulous.

[TheGreenKnight]

And as long as I'm in the shallow end, I had to laugh at Whoopi pointing out that she was wearing the same clothes as "yesterday" because she pretty much wears a white shirt every day so if she hadn't said anything I'm not sure anyone would notice.   And after all her bitching they got rid of the comfortable chairs and coffee table and basically went back to the same setup as last year and yet she still can't sit there without looking like she's straddling a horse.  Or maybe she's just on my last nerve. 

I noticed that, too. Odd.

 

I also saw the picture Whoopi showed of her with Sherri. It's hard to say, since Sherri Shepherd has always oversold her response, but she almost looks like she's on the verge of a nervous breakdown there. I do feel sorry for her, since I'm sure the past year wasn't an easy one for her (even if, at the same time, I'm glad she's not on this show anymore...).

 

I missed this morning's show, but that comment upthread that Rosie O said about how the police should check John Grisham's harddrive just because of what he said was a very childish, scandalized, pearl-clutching response (I sat here forever trying to think of a word on the tip of my tongue, but it never came to me).

Edited October 17, 2014 by TheGreenKnight

[Bronzedog]

Whoopie seemed befuddled that Sherri burst into tears when she saw her. I don't remember Whoopie saying anything about the performance either.

[Former Nun]

Put me in the corner (is it a LARGE corner) that prefers to see the more toned-down Rosie O'Donnell.  Actually, she's my least favorite part of the show.

 

Once again, she couldn't contain herself (no matter what great advice her wife gave)...she HAD to make a face in the camera as she walked out to the stage.

 

And...Alan Cumming.  I have been a BIG fan for...actually, decades.  I first saw him in a popular film in the 90s, "Circle of Friends" with Chris O'Donnell and Minnie Driver.  He was a creepy little guy in a creepy little part.   You may have enjoyed him in "Romy and Michele's High School Reunion." I've gone on to love him and see him in varied parts: movies, TV...and only wish I could have seen him in "Cabaret."   He does a lot of independent films.  Find his work!

[SistaLadybug]

I kind of got off the fan train after he started wearing kilts everywhere a few years back and named his signature fragrance "Cumming."  However, I was impressed by his interview yesterday, and the book sounds interesting, so I'm tentatively back on board.  Will try to find a copy of the book.  I too enjoyed hearing how he decorated his dressing room fire escapes.

 

 

I'll admit it, I have asked, and touched, my mixed-race nephews' hair! ;-)  But only because it's pretty, and they were the first in our family to have it, and as such -- kind of a novelty.  Now that they're teenagers, and no longer the only mixed-race kids at the family reunions, that's not happening any more.  I've touched my (white) nieces' purple Kool-Aid hair and my (white) nieces' dreadlocks, too.  All part of the "not part of my experience growing up and I'm curious" category. However, I would never touch any body part on any adult, particularly not someone I'm intimately acquainted with, without an invitation.  (Which, frankly, I would be a little freaked out by.... "Hey, CC, feel like touching my hair?")

Well, they are family members and so somewhat different.  That said, that's the part that upsets me most - that folks treat me like a "novelty".  I'm a human being.  I'm Black and my hair is a different texture but it's still *hair*.  It's not a foreign substance and I'm not a science experiment.  This is a thing that really happens and bothers many people.  Black women who don't relax their hair have that experience quite a bit to the point that there are t-shirts saying "Don't touch my hair" and websites devoted to the conversation.

 

I've even had idiotic questions asked like, "Do you wash your hair?" (because I have locs) and "How did you get it blonde?" which got the biggest side-eye of which I was capable, followed by "How did you get *yours* blonde because I'm pretty sure that isn't your natural color?"

 

There's been mention made here of folks being annoyed because Rosie P. talks so much about her experience as a Latina and Whoopi/Sherri/whoever talk(ed) so much about their experience as Black women.  When you live each day being treated as if you are "other", it is important to speak for yourself.  Sharing our stories is not a way of us attempting to remain othered - it is a means of saying "We are people and we matter as much.  Our experiences are as varied."  Saying "Stop talking about it and it'll go away" is a response of the privileged who don't have to think about it because it doesn't apply to them.

[Dissy]

The whole hair touching thing surprised me. It is amazing to me the things people think they are entitled to do. I can't imagine asking to touch someone's hair much less touch it without asking. Sorry that happens to you SistaLadybug.

I am pleasantly surprised by Nicole but I find myself waiting for the Morning Joe Nicole to take over. But even that persona is so much better than Bitsy.

[Morgalisa]

 

And as long as I'm in the shallow end, I had to laugh at Whoopi pointing out that she was wearing the same clothes as "yesterday" because she pretty much wears a white shirt every day so if she hadn't said anything I'm not sure anyone would notice.

 

I probably wouldn't have noticed that Whoopi was wearing the same shirt if she hadn't mentioned it.  However, it really became obvious when she was doing the interview about medical marijuana and she was wearing a maroon jacket.  The segment must have been taped out of sequence.  

 

White people touching Black people's hair is a staple of the old South.  During and after slavery, it was considered "good luck" to rub a black person's hair (usually a young male).  And yes it still happens today, not the good-luck part, but the curiosity part.  You would probably be more conscious of it if you were the one being touched.  Being a Black woman married to a White man, we both get unique insight into each others culture and their biases and bigotry.  There is enough to go around for all.

[Cementhead]

 

I absolutely love her [Nicolle's]hair though and the makeup and lighting crew is especially flattering to her.

 

I am mesmerized by her hair: the color, the cut, the style, even the hairspray that allows it to move but stay in place!    I generally love her clothes too but not the over the knee boots.

I have the same haircut as Nicolle's and seeing how fabulous her hair looks every day is giving me a major hair inferiority complex.  I, too, am fascinated by the glory of it all.  Sigh.  Too funny that you even mentioned the hairspray factor, Cosmo, because finding the perfect hairspray is a personal quest of mine and I too, have wondered about what they are using on her's to keep it in place yet also leave it looking all swingy and natural.  Her dresses are pretty much to die for.  But those boots are a big giant oh no!

 

 

I kind of got off the fan train after he started wearing kilts everywhere a few years back and named his signature fragrance "Cumming."

LOL, Chicagocita.  I agree with you on both points there. 

Edited October 17, 2014 by Cementhead

[Morgalisa]

I forgot to mention that I love their new song that they walk out to:  "All About That Bass."  I just love the video and the lyrics and the message of the song.  I think it was probably selected by Rosie O. since she sings along every time.

[Morbs]

I thought the John Grisham discussion was an obvious attempt to get headlines. They didn't even really discuss it, just let Rosie accuse him of being a pedophile himself and then moved along. Kathy Griffin just accused someone on Twitter of being a pedophile, and I didn't like it then either. His comments are awfully strange though, I wondered if he was drunk during that interview.

[CathinAZ]

Just wanted to comment on Friday's show...well done, ladies. Great topics and discussions. I feel like I learned something. So different from recent past seasons. I'm putting most of the reason on the removal of Geddie and others who were in charge of building the content of each show..they thought viewers wanted that fluff and crap...WRONG. But also, this group of ladies ( and only having 4 of them) messy and compliment each other well.

P.s. cement head, don't feel bad....you too would look great if a professional was doing your hair daily! Nicole seems approachable...might be worth emailing or tweeting her to ask about hairspray.

[canter]

Whoopie seemed befuddled that Sherri burst into tears when she saw her. I don't remember Whoopie saying anything about the performance either.

Yes, I recall Whoopi's commentary about Cinderella as being very neutral too. She said something like, "Hey, you know, it's fun. The good witch flies, what more can you ask for?" But it was sweet of her to go, and it seemed to mean a lot to Sherri, so that's nice.

I have the same haircut as Nicolle's and seeing how fabulous her hair looks every day is giving me a major hair inferiority complex. I, too, am fascinated by the glory of it all. Sigh. Too funny that you even mentioned the hairspray factor, Cosmo, because finding the perfect hairspray is a personal quest of mine and I too, have wondered about what they are using on her's to keep it in place yet also leave it looking all swingy and natural.

I dunno, when Nicolle was talking about fan-gate (which, I love having her insider perspective on stuff like that -- who knew there was such drama about temperature and can access?!), she tucked her hair behind her ear, and it looked all stuff and, well, hairsprayed! Kelly Ripa's looked the same today -- I was wondering if it was intentional, some new stiff-hair trend. But in general, I agree that her styling is great.

ETA: I absolutely LOVED during the Alan Cumming interview, when RO prompted Alan to give a quote and he couldn't remember it, then RO had trouble finding it in her notes and started to paraphrase, then Rosie P saved the day by finishing it and RO gave her a grateful hug. That's what happens when the cohosts are intelligent, prepared, and invested -- I would much rather see little "goofs" like that, which actually show, IMO, positive inner workings of the show, than see mindless fembots reading verbatim off their tightly clutched blue cards.

Edited October 18, 2014 by canter

[ginger90]

Yes, I recall Whoopi's commentary about Cinderella as being very neutral too. She said something like, "Hey, you know, it's fun. The good witch flies, what more can you ask for?" But it was sweet of her to go, and it seemed to mean a lot to Sherri, so that's nice.

 

To Sherri from Whoopi:  http://instagram.com/p/uRYY8jILof/

[ChicagoCita]

I had to laugh at Matthew Broderick's description of his life as a Lifetime movie:  The Boy Who Doesn't Know If It Happened or Not.  I'm so accustomed to Nathan Lane stealing the spotlight and just running with it, a la Robin Williams, so it made me giggle to hear such a wry line come from Broderick.  (I remember when he was known as "Jim Broderick's son" -- Jim Broderick playing the father on Family.  Wow, that was a long time ago!)

[Former Nun]

I think it was probably selected by Rosie O. since she sings along every time.

 

 

Yeah...I could do without that.  I'm in the minority and it's not a big deal.  

[Cosmocrush]

I missed this morning's show, but that comment upthread that Rosie O said about how the police should check John Grisham's harddrive just because of what he said was a very childish, scandalized, pearl-clutching response (I sat here forever trying to think of a word on the tip of my tongue, but it never came to me).

I'll admit I had the same exact same thought as RO  about checking his hard drive when I saw that video clip and watched Grisham say those things.  What a strange thing for Grisham to say and like RO, I don't believe a person can "accidentally" land on child porn while surfing the internet, much less be convicted and sentenced to prison for it.   Accidentally hit a link to some porn?  Sure, but not child porn. I'm with Morbs in wondering if Grisham was drunk in that clip; he kind of seemed like it to me.  

 

I have the same haircut as Nicolle's and seeing how fabulous her hair looks every day is giving me a major hair inferiority complex.  I, too, am fascinated by the glory of it all.  Sigh.  Too funny that you even mentioned the hairspray factor, Cosmo, because finding the perfect hairspray is a personal quest of mine and I too, have wondered about what they are using on her's to keep it in place yet also leave it looking all swingy and natural.  Her dresses are pretty much to die for.  But those boots are a big giant oh no!

Cementhead, we must find out about the hairspray!   And while I've never asked a stranger if I could touch their hair, I might be tempted if I ever met Nicolle, lol!

Edited October 18, 2014 by Cosmocrush

[maryis1]

I lived in Arizona for a long time and used to go to a bead and supply store across the street from the Indian Hospital. The woman who worked there and I were on a friendly basis. One day a man walked into the store, and was chatting her up. Without asking permission or even taking a breath he said to her 'you have beautiful hair' and reached across the counter to touch it.

 

She just about flew across the counter, grabbed the guy's arm and escorted him out of the store telling him, only my children and my husband are allowed to touch my hair. When she came back in, well you can imagine I was standing there in awe, and she told me that touching an Indian woman's hair is one of the most disrespectful things and bordered on assault. Yes, she had beautiful long, sleek black hair and no, I never would have ever thought to touch it. I was also thinking that one of my good friends had amazing dreadlocks and I would have never thought to touch them. Maybe my mom raised me right to respect other folks' boundaries and space. Not sure why I wouldn't do the hair touching thing... just seems like a very rude action. But based on watching that guy in the store that day, there are people who have no compunction to do so. So I know they are out there.

[car54]

I think the quieter gentler Rosie O might relate from two things--first she's in a good place in her own life with a new wife and baby, but more, I think Rosie went through something that probably had a big impact on her--which is the failure of her show on OWN.   
She started out doing her old style of stand up/game playing/guests and let Oprah's people build something that was pretty awful, and Rosie herself was not good in it.    She finally found herself and totally revamped it right at the end, but it was too late.   That final version of her show was an hour long one on one interview and it was very quiet and deep--very different from her original talk show style--and she was fantastic at it--those hour long pieces were just wonderful--and I see some of that in the interviews they've had her do on The View.    The failure of her OWN show was more Oprah's than Rosie's failure--taking the show to Chicago--where she could not get timely guests all the time, and the time slot--really were just wrong, but I think that experience may have shaped some of the quieter persona we see on The View.  I like it.

[Bronzedog]

I have really thick hair and I had a black coworker who thought I wore a wig. She even said she noticed sometimes I looked like I needed a haircut so she assumed I had 2 wigs Frankly, that was giving me too much credit for planning and organization. Anyway, she would touch my hair from time to time because she refused to believe its real. I also have a black neighbor who has touched my hair several times because she likes it. I just always thought it was because I have a talent for attracting strange people. But in my case, it's blacks touching white hair. Who knew it was a thing?

[kaygeeret]

I am kind of gobsmacked by all the hair touching.  With really good friends or family I might reach out to touch a new jacket that has a great fabric w/o asking, but touching someone else without permission is completely outside my experience on any level.

 

I had a hard time believing strangers would rub a pregnant woman's belly w/o permission until I witnessed it and disgraced myself by having to scoop my jaw up from the floor where it had dropped!

 

New world I guess?  Not one I personally care for I must say.

[SistaLadybug]

This could go into a whole discussion of why people believe they should have access to Black women's bodies, but that would be a conversation for another time and place.