Bobcatkitten January 18, 2019 Share January 18, 2019 29 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said: Not surprising, but yes, disappointing for the best episode of the season. Their promo dept sucks so very hard. This so much. They could have hyped up a Dean on Michael fight or the confrontation overall instead of the God can die thing. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-4990798
Aeryn13 January 18, 2019 Share January 18, 2019 But those are roughly the numbers the mid-Season Finale did get, aren`t they? I don`t think you could expect huge growth. Next episode is probably gonna profit more if people liked this one. Ratings usually reflect that. I doubt in general even the PTB look at ratings per episode and go with "this is what people want". Otherwise every single episode should have been Dean hooking up with an old flame as that episode holds the ratings record for best this show ever had. Even the Wayward Pilot ratings were good-ish and the network still said "no thanks" and gave Legacies a greenlight when Originals at that time dumpster-dived their ratings. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-4990863
gonzosgirrl January 18, 2019 Share January 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, Aeryn13 said: But those are roughly the numbers the mid-Season Finale did get, aren`t they? I don`t think you could expect huge growth. Next episode is probably gonna profit more if people liked this one. Ratings usually reflect that. That's always been my contention. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-4990922
tessathereaper January 18, 2019 Share January 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Casseiopeia said: Well that's disappointing...Supernatural won't be in the top 4 or 5 for the week. The top 4 or 5 what? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-4991131
Casseiopeia January 18, 2019 Share January 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, tessathereaper said: The top 4 or 5 what? CW shows for the week. Riverdale rated higher as did Roswell. Supergirl and Charmed will be back Sunday for their midseason premiere. Unless we adjust up this afternoon it isn't looking good for this week. Too bad it was a great episode but it unfortunately followed a very boring subpar midseason finale. Supernatural was trending at #2 for most of the evening. Hopefully that will help in the final ratings. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-4991188
Aeryn13 January 18, 2019 Share January 18, 2019 (edited) It should easily be the Nr.2 or Nr.3 show on CW, right? The Flash is first and I think Roswell is tied in demo and did better in viewers. But that was the Series Pilot so of course it got sampling. I foresee a rather steep drop from that, though, because the original show might have been cheesy teen romance back in the day (and I loved it) but the reboot was pretty anemic compared to it. Quote Riverdale rated higher Forgot RD since I don`t watch. Only hear this Season is a hot mess. SPG and Charmed are dark horses. I`m not sure they will do that much better than normally. Neither really had super-amazing mid-Season Finales. Supergirl in particular needs to tone it down a notch with the heavy-handedness. Edited January 18, 2019 by Aeryn13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-4991190
MysteryGuest January 19, 2019 Share January 19, 2019 What's odd is that the episode is still not up on Amazon. I always watch the next day without commercials, but it's now Saturday, and still it's not available. I wonder what gives? Does anyone else watch that way, or maybe with iTunes? Have you been able to find the episode? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-4992814
Reganne January 19, 2019 Share January 19, 2019 1 hour ago, MysteryGuest said: What's odd is that the episode is still not up on Amazon. I always watch the next day without commercials, but it's now Saturday, and still it's not available. I wonder what gives? Does anyone else watch that way, or maybe with iTunes? Have you been able to find the episode? I purchased it on google play and this has been happening all the time with episodes and I wish I hadnt of bothered spending the money on it. Because I am impatient, we have had to find other ways to watch it on friday night. I didnt have this problem last season though. Season 13 episodes were always released the next day.... give or take maybe one episode. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-4992924
Bobcatkitten January 19, 2019 Share January 19, 2019 Isn't it on the CW site for free the next day? I watched it yesterday. No commercials. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-4992979
MysteryGuest January 19, 2019 Share January 19, 2019 The CW is free, but there are commercial breaks. I've watched on Amazon this way for the past 4 seasons, and this has never happened before. I wondered if the CW was holding it back for some reasons, but that doesn't make any sense. I'll keep checking. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-4993006
gonzosgirrl January 19, 2019 Share January 19, 2019 21 minutes ago, MysteryGuest said: The CW is free, but there are commercial breaks. I've watched on Amazon this way for the past 4 seasons, and this has never happened before. I wondered if the CW was holding it back for some reasons, but that doesn't make any sense. I'll keep checking. I thought all Prime was the same, but in Canada, Supernatural doesn't seem to be on Prime at all. I do see Nihilism available on iTunes Canada. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-4993038
Casseiopeia January 19, 2019 Share January 19, 2019 2 hours ago, MysteryGuest said: What's odd is that the episode is still not up on Amazon. I always watch the next day without commercials, but it's now Saturday, and still it's not available. I wonder what gives? Does anyone else watch that way, or maybe with iTunes? Have you been able to find the episode? It is up on Itunes I rewatched it yesterday. I usually watch on Amazon but so far it isn't available yet. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-4993039
Aeryn13 January 20, 2019 Share January 20, 2019 Quote I thought all Prime was the same, but in Canada, Supernatural doesn't seem to be on Prime at all. I do see Nihilism available on iTunes Canada. I just read something about Amazon Prime currently suspending WB shows. Which would include SPN. No idea, are they in some kind of contract negotiations? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-4994872
FlickChick January 20, 2019 Share January 20, 2019 I thought I read something about Warner Bros. looking at starting their own streaming service. Just what everyone needs - another $$ account. If they do, they'll probably take their own shows off of other streaming services so they're available only with their account. Perhaps this is the beginning. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-4995344
catrox14 January 20, 2019 Share January 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, FlickChick said: I thought I read something about Warner Bros. looking at starting their own streaming service. Just what everyone needs - another $$ account. If they do, they'll probably take their own shows off of other streaming services so they're available only with their account. Perhaps this is the beginning. I've read they were starting with a DCEU channel but I didnt think SPN nor other non DC shows would be affected. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-4995350
MysteryGuest January 20, 2019 Share January 20, 2019 I ended up watching it on Google Play (thanks, Reganne!), since it's still not up on Amazon. If every damn network decides to start their own streaming service, they're going to lose viewers. I watch one show on the CW, and that's SPN. I will not be paying a monthly fee to watch one show. If they pull it from Netflix and other sources, then sadly, I won't be seeing it. I already pay for Netflix, Hulu, HBO and Amazon Prime. I don't have any intention of paying more for streaming services that I was paying for cable. It's ludicrous. It's a good thing I love to read... 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-4995369
Casseiopeia January 25, 2019 Share January 25, 2019 We didn't trend last night and the show was preempted in some markets. Hopefully it won't adjust down. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5009225
Aeryn13 January 25, 2019 Share January 25, 2019 There are no new summaries out yet for CW shows for second week of February. Either they are late or every show is going on a break there. No Valentine`s day ep for SPN then possibly? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5009264
tessathereaper January 25, 2019 Share January 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, Casseiopeia said: We didn't trend last night and the show was preempted in some markets. Hopefully it won't adjust down. No but Happy Birthday Dean Winchester trended for a while yesterday. :) Let's hope they noticed that at least. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5009268
AwesomO4000 January 25, 2019 Share January 25, 2019 Heh. My take away from the above... Grey's Anatomy is still on? And people are still watching that show? In large numbers (comparatively) even? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5010158
Casseiopeia January 25, 2019 Share January 25, 2019 The finals won't be posted until Monday but so far Supernatural is the second most watched show on the CW behind The Flash. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5010193
Aeryn13 January 26, 2019 Share January 26, 2019 (edited) Now synopsis` are out for Arrow, Flash and Roswell but not any other CW shows, leading me to think there won`t be a new episode on Feb. 14th. Edited January 26, 2019 by Aeryn13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5011315
gonzosgirrl January 26, 2019 Share January 26, 2019 22 minutes ago, Aeryn13 said: Now synopsis` are out for Arrow, Flash and Roswell but not any other CW shows, leading me to think there won`t be a new episode on Feb. 14th. I guess with only nine episodes left in the season were going to have more off weeks than usual? Or is it just ending earlier? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5011333
Aeryn13 January 26, 2019 Share January 26, 2019 (edited) Quote I guess with only nine episodes left in the season were going to have more off weeks than usual? Or is it just ending earlier? Yes, the Finale airs on April 25th. I assumed it was airing straight through (most of) February, then have a hiatus in most of March and return for the final 5 or so episodes. I do know April 4th is a new episode. They could take random breaks for February and March but that is not good scheduling. It annoys audiences and stops even the flow of weekly watching. It`s like being in a traffic jam, stop and go, stop and go. Edited January 26, 2019 by Aeryn13 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5011336
gonzosgirrl January 26, 2019 Share January 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Aeryn13 said: Yes, the Finale airs on April 25th. I assumed it was airing straight through (most of) February, then have a hiatus in most of March and return for the final 5 or so episodes. I do know April 4th is a new episode. They could take random breaks for February and March but that is not good scheduling. It annoys audiences and stops even the flow of weekly watching. It`s like being in a traffic jam, stop and go, stop and go. Wow they aren't going for May sweeps? That's... interesting? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5011660
catrox14 January 26, 2019 Share January 26, 2019 2 hours ago, gonzosgirrl said: Wow they aren't going for May sweeps? That's... interesting? This just fuels my spec that Jensen is going to take a hiatus. I mean they should be done filming by the end of March? And they could hold back the eps until May. I wonder if the show has decided on an end date and the ratings and sweeps don't matter to the network anymore. I dunno. It is really odd for sure. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5011939
Aeryn13 January 26, 2019 Share January 26, 2019 (edited) Quote This just fuels my spec that Jensen is going to take a hiatus. I mean they should be done filming by the end of March? The Finale this year films from March 14th to March 22th so basically yes. As for ending earlier, I think this has less to do with SPN and more with how the CW is going about scheduling nowadays. Lots of shows share timeslots now in terms of fall / spring / summer. Or even in the Fall Season, last Season Supergirl took a long break for another show, this Season it is Legends of Tomorrow. I believe iZombie premieres its final short Season on Thursday May 2nd in Supernatural`s timeslot because the new show "In the Dark" starts airing once "Legacies" finishes its first Season at the end of March. Here you can basically find the CW`s rather complicated scheduling. :) Edited January 26, 2019 by Aeryn13 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5011977
Morrigan2575 January 31, 2019 Share January 31, 2019 Renewed Early https://tvline.com/2019/01/31/cw-renewed-shows-list-2019-supernatural-flash-charmed/ 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5025181
Aeryn13 January 31, 2019 Share January 31, 2019 All incredibly expected renewals. The DCTV shows practically were renewed mid-December last year with the next x-over announcement title card. And SPN - whenever it ends - will get a "final Season" announcement. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5025190
Pondlass1 January 31, 2019 Share January 31, 2019 I had to smile... someone plaintively tweeted “we’ll never see Jensen Ackles in anything else will we?”... 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5025262
PAForrest January 31, 2019 Share January 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Pondlass1 said: I had to smile... someone plaintively tweeted “we’ll never see Jensen Ackles in anything else will we?”... Doesn't seem likely. Though who knows, every season the show is renewed now is only going to see increasingly less and less of the Js. Pretty soon they'll barely show up at all. Either that or they could cut down the episode order to 13 episodes like Jensen wants, and then maybe he can take another gig, like a movie or something. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5025281
catrox14 January 31, 2019 Share January 31, 2019 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5025297
FlickChick January 31, 2019 Share January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Aeryn13 said: And SPN - whenever it ends - will get a "final Season" announcement Just because they got an early renewal doesn't mean we know the details. As in: how many episodes they film and IF it is a final season. We probably won't know that until the up-fronts in May. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5025346
bettername2come January 31, 2019 Share January 31, 2019 This is the show that doesn't end. It just goes on and on my friend. Some people started watching it, not knowing what it was. And they'll continue watching it just because.... 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5025362
SueB February 1, 2019 Share February 1, 2019 Woohoo!! I expected it but it’s nice to get the early notice. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5025896
Casseiopeia February 1, 2019 Share February 1, 2019 We lost a little in viewers but the demo is unchanged. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5026867
Pondlass1 February 1, 2019 Share February 1, 2019 Shame the demo is dropping. We’re seeing some of the best acting ever compared to some of the other offerings out there. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5026883
Morrigan2575 February 1, 2019 Share February 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, Pondlass1 said: Shame the demo is dropping. We’re seeing some of the best acting ever compared to some of the other offerings out there. The demo isn't dropping, it hasn't dropped, it's been steady. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5026913
Morrigan2575 February 1, 2019 Share February 1, 2019 18 hours ago, FlickChick said: Just because they got an early renewal doesn't mean we know the details. As in: how many episodes they film and IF it is a final season. We probably won't know that until the up-fronts in May. If it's the final season it's because the Js are don with the show and, that's their choice/right. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5027183
Bobcatkitten February 1, 2019 Share February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Morrigan2575 said: If it's the final season it's because the Js are don with the show and, that's their choice/right. Could be. I think it will be. But that's not a fact yet. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5027187
Morrigan2575 February 1, 2019 Share February 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bobcatkitten said: Could be. I think it will be. But that's not a fact yet. I'm not advocating for either, i personally don't see why they would quit after getting their filming schedule cut down to 3 days and getting an extra month off by cutting down to 20 episodes per year. However, IF Supernatural ends with S15 it's because The Js have decided they're done and not, because the ratings suck or anything like that. SPN is the 4th highest rated show on the network and makes the WB a ton of money in post sales. They would drag that show out to 20 years if they could 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5027203
FlickChick February 1, 2019 Share February 1, 2019 FYI, from TVLine: * In honor of Supernatural‘s 300th installment (airing Feb. 7 on The CW), TNT will broadcast a marathon of 25 fan-favorite episodes over Feb. 4 (from 10 am-3 pm), Feb. 5 (2 am-3 pm), Feb. 6 (10 am-5 pm) and Feb. 7 (10 am-2 pm). 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5027730
Casseiopeia February 1, 2019 Share February 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said: I'm not advocating for either, i personally don't see why they would quit after getting their filming schedule cut down to 3 days and getting an extra month off by cutting down to 20 episodes per year. However, IF Supernatural ends with S15 it's because The Js have decided they're done and not, because the ratings suck or anything like that. SPN is the 4th highest rated show on the network and makes the WB a ton of money in post sales. They would drag that show out to 20 years if they could If SPN was being shown at the 9 pm timeslot the ratings would be higher considering it's viewer numbers are second only to The Flash. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5027854
Morrigan2575 February 2, 2019 Share February 2, 2019 2 hours ago, FlickChick said: FYI, from TVLine: * In honor of Supernatural‘s 300th installment (airing Feb. 7 on The CW), TNT will broadcast a marathon of 25 fan-favorite episodes over Feb. 4 (from 10 am-3 pm), Feb. 5 (2 am-3 pm), Feb. 6 (10 am-5 pm) and Feb. 7 (10 am-2 pm). TNT loves SPN. I can only assume it makes them money because it's always on. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5027978
ahrtee February 2, 2019 Share February 2, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said: TNT loves SPN. I can only assume it makes them money because it's always on. OTOH, they seem to have a strange view of "fan favorite" episodes, since (according to my online listings) the showing includes such wonderful eps as Family Matters, Defending Your Life, Remember the Titans and Things We Left Behind. Not to mention the ones I love, like Monster at the End of This Book and Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid, being shown at 1 am and 3 am (MT) respectively, so 3 and 5 am ET. *sigh* It does seem heavily weighted towards seasons 6-8 for some reason. Maybe they figure fans are tired of the "usual" favorites by now. :) ETA: That's not to say I won't watch! I'll take SPN reruns over any other daytime TV. :) Edited February 2, 2019 by ahrtee Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5028071
Morrigan2575 February 2, 2019 Share February 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, ahrtee said: OTOH, they seem to have a strange view of "fan favorite" episodes, since (according to my online listings) the showing includes such wonderful eps as Family Matters, Defending Your Life, Remember the Titans and Things We Left Behind. Not to mention the ones I love, like Monster at the End of This Book and Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid, being shown at 1 am and 3 am (MT) respectively, so 3 and 5 am ET. *sigh* It does seem heavily weighted towards seasons 6-8 for some reason. Maybe they figure fans are tired of the "usual" favorites by now. :) The Monday lineup looks good. Surprised Fan Fiction wasn't in the marathon. You'd think they'd include the 200th episode in a marathon supporting the 300th 😁 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5028085
ahrtee February 2, 2019 Share February 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Morrigan2575 said: The Monday lineup looks good. Surprised Fan Fiction wasn't in the marathon. You'd think they'd include the 200th episode in a marathon supporting the 300th 😁 Well, they do have Slash Fiction. Maybe they got them confused. :) 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5028092
AwesomO4000 February 2, 2019 Share February 2, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, ahrtee said: Well, they do have Slash Fiction. Maybe they got them confused. :) But oooh good choice. Leviathan Sam and Dean are great. And "All Out of Love" Dean... complete with "Eeeeeeing" My Little Pony violence is awesome. And one of the lines that made me laugh enough to miss something that came after: "Dead plants with creamy goo. It's like eating self-righteousness." Brilliant on multiple levels. And Chet. I loved Chet. And Frank, too... Man, I miss season 7. Edited February 2, 2019 by AwesomO4000 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5028706
Aeryn13 February 2, 2019 Share February 2, 2019 Seemingly no press release for February 21st either (Legacies has one) so SPN might go on hiatus after the 300th. Would be weird not airing through February but in March. Usually, it's the other way around. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5028724
ILoveReading February 2, 2019 Share February 2, 2019 Maybe something happens at the end of the 300th that they don't want known yet and they don't plan to release the episode synopsis until after it airs. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/37/#findComment-5028867
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