Morrigan2575 November 16, 2018 Share November 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Pondlass1 said: Last year we got 0.8 and 180+ at this time. Oh well, times are changing. People don't watch live anymore. S13 it was getting 0.6/0.7 in the demo. S12 it was getting 0.7 in the demo S11 it was getting 0.7 in the demo S10 it was getting 0.9/1.0 in the demo All of these numbers can be verified by checking Spotted Ratings Vault for November ratings as well as the yearly/seasonal average. Ratings cannot be viewed in a vacuum. Viewing has switched massively from live to delayed over the years. The Network and (at least) Arrow Producers have stated that the CW App/online viewing has increased and, let's not forget that the new Netflix Deal has the full season available within days of the Season finale airing live, instead of being available post DVD release which was a few weeks before the next season premiered. All of this has contributed not only to SPNs decline in Live ratings but The CW as a whole. 4 years ago around this time, The Flash scored a 1.4 in the demo, it just hit a 0.6 (which may be a series low). So ratings have dropped all over The CW network. SPN being 14 years old has better ratings than all 3 new shows that launched this season. Season Averages to Date (per spotted ratings) The Flash 0.68 Riverdale 0.45 Supernatural 0.41 Arrow 0.40 Charmed 0.39 Supergirl 0.38 Black Lightning 0.35 Legacies 0.31 LoT 0.30 All American 0.25 Dynasty 0.18 Crazy Ex 0.13 I'm honestly lost at the claims that SPNs ratings are bad. It's the oldest show on the network and currently ranked #3 on the Network. And yes ratings will drop in the Spring they always do but guess what?! Ratings on the whole network drop in the spring. 4 Link to comment
Jonesy November 16, 2018 Share November 16, 2018 (edited) The CW as a whole has gone down a bunch this year more than most networks--since it's demo is younger than the other networks, I think they are moving faster in cord cutting...so the Nielsen ratings miss a bunch of them. Edited November 16, 2018 by Jakes 1 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 November 17, 2018 Share November 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Jakes said: The CW as a whole has gone down a bunch this year more than most networks--since it's demo is younger than the other networks, I think they are moving faster in cord cutting...so the Nielsen ratings miss a bunch of them. Yep. I also wonder if Pedowitz has put too many eggs in DC's basket. 2 Link to comment
SueB November 17, 2018 Share November 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said: Yep. I also wonder if Pedowitz has put too many eggs in DC's basket. I think so. 3 Link to comment
Casseiopeia November 17, 2018 Share November 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said: S13 it was getting 0.6/0.7 in the demo. S12 it was getting 0.7 in the demo S11 it was getting 0.7 in the demo S10 it was getting 0.9/1.0 in the demo All of these numbers can be verified by checking Spotted Ratings Vault for November ratings as well as the yearly/seasonal average. Ratings cannot be viewed in a vacuum. Viewing has switched massively from live to delayed over the years. The Network and (at least) Arrow Producers have stated that the CW App/online viewing has increased and, let's not forget that the new Netflix Deal has the full season available within days of the Season finale airing live, instead of being available post DVD release which was a few weeks before the next season premiered. All of this has contributed not only to SPNs decline in Live ratings but The CW as a whole. 4 years ago around this time, The Flash scored a 1.4 in the demo, it just hit a 0.6 (which may be a series low). So ratings have dropped all over The CW network. SPN being 14 years old has better ratings than all 3 new shows that launched this season. Season Averages to Date (per spotted ratings) The Flash 0.68 Riverdale 0.45 Supernatural 0.41 Arrow 0.40 Charmed 0.39 Supergirl 0.38 Black Lightning 0.35 Legacies 0.31 LoT 0.30 All American 0.25 Dynasty 0.18 Crazy Ex 0.13 I'm honestly lost at the claims that SPNs ratings are bad. It's the oldest show on the network and currently ranked #3 on the Network. And yes ratings will drop in the Spring they always do but guess what?! Ratings on the whole network drop in the spring. It's the Live+3 where we are getting killed. Flash, Arrow, Riverdale and SG all have huge increases in demos and viewers. SPN languishes at the bottom of the heap every week. We do pick up more viewers but not anything near what those shows do. Also we haven't trended on SM at all this year. The others have. This is definitely a down year for Supernatural. 2 Link to comment
Pondlass1 November 17, 2018 Share November 17, 2018 How much difference does the the Live + 3 make to the other shows' demo? And do the people at the top take note of things like Live+ 3 demos? I think Supernatural has a loyal audience, but they're drifting away because of repetitive storylines. Same thing with TWD. I never missed an episode, but I haven't watched now in 2 years. 1 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 November 17, 2018 Share November 17, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Casseiopeia said: It's the Live+3 where we are getting killed. Flash, Arrow, Riverdale and SG all have huge increases in demos and viewers. SPN languishes at the bottom of the heap every week. We do pick up more viewers but not anything near what those shows do. Also we haven't trended on SM at all this year. The others have. This is definitely a down year for Supernatural. I could only find 3 of the Live+7 posted in the Arrow thread but SPN is not doing as bad as you imply in the Live+7. I've never found a reliable longtime source for Live+3 (usually just early in the season). But of the 3 I found SPN was #4, #6 and #4 (most recent) of the CW shows for the weeks posted. Which, considering the show is 14 years old is not bad at all. Ratings are there for a specific purpose and, it's not to justify fandom's opinions on quality. Ratings are there to determine a shows renewal/ad rates and, to a lesser extent) budget. In SPNs case WB is most likely footing the bill for SPN, giving it to the CW for free/cheap (they did the same for Smallville in its last few seasons becuase the show was super profitable in DVD and international sales). Looking at Live+SD and Live+7 SPN, at 14 years old is generally beating the freshman class and, shows that are much younger and more heavily promoted and given a cushy post Flash spot (Black Lightning). Would I love for SPN to be #1 or #2? Absolutely! I've watched SPN for 14 years, it's the only show on the CW that I actually still watch weekly. However, I know it's not going to nor is it expected to be the best rated show on the CW. However, the show's ratings are more than solid enough at this point in the season to justify a renewal for S15 and possibly even S16 (actors contracts and ratings permitting). Edited November 17, 2018 by Morrigan2575 4 Link to comment
SueB November 17, 2018 Share November 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Morrigan2575 said: However, the show's ratings are more than solid enough at this point in the season to justify a renewal for S15 and possibly even S16 (actors contracts and ratings permitting). ITA. I think S15 at 20 episodes is probably a given -- because I think that's what the boys signed on for. The ONLY question is whether they announce 15 as "the end" at the Upfronts (ala Smallville) or hope for a S16. I think the ratings would lead them to want to milk the show for another season. And I think the boys would sign onto S16 if S15 wasn't a pre-announced final year. But THEY might call it at S16 and suggest only one more year at that time. In short, it's possible things will go differently, but I expect renewal for 15 and 'news' at the end of S15 about S16. Yes, that's 18 months before a final season announcement IMO. At the earliest. Edited November 17, 2018 by SueB 2 Link to comment
Pondlass1 November 17, 2018 Share November 17, 2018 If they're going with S15 and even S16 then someone needs to have a word with Dabb. We've always had a kind of intimate up close relationship with the brothers but now it's a cast of thousands. 5 Link to comment
Casseiopeia November 17, 2018 Share November 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said: I could only find 3 of the Live+7 posted in the Arrow thread but SPN is not doing as bad as you imply in the Live+7. I've never found a reliable longtime source for Live+3 (usually just early in the season). But of the 3 I found SPN was #4, #6 and #4 (most recent) of the CW shows for the weeks posted. Which, considering the show is 14 years old is not bad at all. Ratings are there for a specific purpose and, it's not to justify fandom's opinions on quality. Ratings are there to determine a shows renewal/ad rates and, to a lesser extent) budget. In SPNs case WB is most likely footing the bill for SPN, giving it to the CW for free/cheap (they did the same for Smallville in its last few seasons becuase the show was super profitable in DVD and international sales). Looking at Live+SD and Live+7 SPN, at 14 years old is generally beating the freshman class and, shows that are much younger and more heavily promoted and given a cushy post Flash spot (Black Lightning). Would I love for SPN to be #1 or #2? Absolutely! I've watched SPN for 14 years, it's the only show on the CW that I actually still watch weekly. However, I know it's not going to nor is it expected to be the best rated show on the CW. However, the show's ratings are more than solid enough at this point in the season to justify a renewal for S15 and possibly even S16 (actors contracts and ratings permitting). Live +7 doesn't count as much as Live+3 to advertisers. I'm not saying it is doing badly. It isn't. It's just the other CW shows are doing better in +3 than SPN is and on SM. 3 hours ago, Pondlass1 said: How much difference does the the Live + 3 make to the other shows' demo? And do the people at the top take note of things like Live+ 3 demos? I think Supernatural has a loyal audience, but they're drifting away because of repetitive storylines. Same thing with TWD. I never missed an episode, but I haven't watched now in 2 years. Live+3 is more important to advertisers. They want to see the shows retention over a few days. That is how they determine where their advertising dollars go. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 November 17, 2018 Share November 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Casseiopeia said: Live +7 doesn't count as much as Live+3 to advertisers. I'm not saying it is doing badly. It isn't. It's just the other CW shows are doing better in +3 than SPN is and on SM. Here are the Live+3 numbers for the CW so far. Other than premiere week; Supernatural either grew as much as the rest of the network or, in cases where SPN had higher Live+SD demo it ended up growing less but matching the Live+3 demos for the bulk of the network. Live+3 Weeks of 110518 (Flash and BL didn't air for Election coverage) Riverdale 0.4 to 0.8 Supergirl, Supernatural and Arrow all went from 0.3 to 0.6 Charmed, LoT and Legacies all went from 0.3 to 0.5 All American 0.3 to 0.4 Crazy Ex 0.1 to 0.2 Dynasty didn't grow at all from the 0.2 Live+3 for week of 102918 (Riverdale and All American didn't air because of Halloween) The Flash 0.7 to 1.1 Supernatural 0.4 to 0.7 Charmed and LoT 0.3 to 0.6 Arrow and Supergirl 0.4 to 0.6 Black Lightning 0.3 to 0.5 Legacies 0.4 to 0.5 Crazy Ex and Dynasty 0.1 to 0.2 Live+3 for week 102218 The Flash 0.7 to 1.2 Riverdale 0.5 to 0.8 Charmed and LoT 0.3 to 0.6 Arrow, Black Lightning, Supernatural and Supergirl 0.4 to 0.6 Legacies 0.3 to 0.5 All American 0.3 to 0.4 Crazy Ex 0.1 to 0.2 Dynasty no increase held at 0.2 Live+3 for week 101518 Flash 0.7 to 1.1 Charmed and Riverdale 0.4 to 0.8 Arrow and Supergirl 0.4 to 0.7 Black Lightning 0.3 to 0.5 Supernatural 0.5 to 0.7 Crazy Ex 0.1 to 0.2 All American and Dynasty 0.2 to 0.3 Live+3 for week of 100818 Riverdale 0.5 to 1.0 Charmed 0.5 to 0.9 Flash 0.8 to 1.2 Supergirl 0.5 to 0.8 Black Lightning 0.4 to 0.6 Supernatural 0.5 to 0.7 Crazy Ex 0.1 to 0.2 All American and Dynasty 0.2 to 0.3 The only thing the Live+3 numbers tell me is that the bulk of the network is very close in ratings with Flash/Riverdale being on the high end of the spectrum, with Crazy Ex and Dynasty on the low end. Everything else is right in the middle. 2 Link to comment
Casseiopeia November 17, 2018 Share November 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said: Here are the Live+3 numbers for the CW so far. Other than premiere week; Supernatural either grew as much as the rest of the network or, in cases where SPN had higher Live+SD demo it ended up growing less but matching the Live+3 demos for the bulk of the network. Live+3 Weeks of 110518 (Flash and BL didn't air for Election coverage) Riverdale 0.4 to 0.8 Supergirl, Supernatural and Arrow all went from 0.3 to 0.6 Charmed, LoT and Legacies all went from 0.3 to 0.5 All American 0.3 to 0.4 Crazy Ex 0.1 to 0.2 Dynasty didn't grow at all from the 0.2 Live+3 for week of 102918 (Riverdale and All American didn't air because of Halloween) The Flash 0.7 to 1.1 Supernatural 0.4 to 0.7 Charmed and LoT 0.3 to 0.6 Arrow and Supergirl 0.4 to 0.6 Black Lightning 0.3 to 0.5 Legacies 0.4 to 0.5 Crazy Ex and Dynasty 0.1 to 0.2 Live+3 for week 102218 The Flash 0.7 to 1.2 Riverdale 0.5 to 0.8 Charmed and LoT 0.3 to 0.6 Arrow, Black Lightning, Supernatural and Supergirl 0.4 to 0.6 Legacies 0.3 to 0.5 All American 0.3 to 0.4 Crazy Ex 0.1 to 0.2 Dynasty no increase held at 0.2 Live+3 for week 101518 Flash 0.7 to 1.1 Charmed and Riverdale 0.4 to 0.8 Arrow and Supergirl 0.4 to 0.7 Black Lightning 0.3 to 0.5 Supernatural 0.5 to 0.7 Crazy Ex 0.1 to 0.2 All American and Dynasty 0.2 to 0.3 Live+3 for week of 100818 Riverdale 0.5 to 1.0 Charmed 0.5 to 0.9 Flash 0.8 to 1.2 Supergirl 0.5 to 0.8 Black Lightning 0.4 to 0.6 Supernatural 0.5 to 0.7 Crazy Ex 0.1 to 0.2 All American and Dynasty 0.2 to 0.3 The only thing the Live+3 numbers tell me is that the bulk of the network is very close in ratings with Flash/Riverdale being on the high end of the spectrum, with Crazy Ex and Dynasty on the low end. Everything else is right in the middle. It is also the number of viewers not just the demo. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 November 18, 2018 Share November 18, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Casseiopeia said: It is also the number of viewers not just the demo. Viewers don't matter only demo. But since you brought it up, viewer growth are listed on the bottom chart at this links. 110518 Riverdale 1.37 to 2.2 Supernatural 1.35 to 1.99 Supergirl 1.16 to 1.85 Everything else falls below Supergirl 102918 Flash 1.85 to 2.7 Supernatural 1.45 to 2.06 Supergirl 1.23 to 1.96 Everything else falls below Supergirl 102218 Flash 1.875 to 2.97 Riverdale 1.40 to 2.12 Supernatural 1.40 to 2.01 Supergirl 1.29 to 1.94 Everything else falls below Supergirl 101518 Flash 1.68 to 2.75 Charmed 1.3 to 2.1 Riverdale 1.28 to 2.09 Supergirl 1.34 to 2.13 Supernatural 1.53 to 2.25 Arrow 1.43 to 2.08 Everything else falls below Arrow I didn't bother with the last week because it's kinda of obvious that Supernatural isn't falling behind in Live+3 viewers or demo. It's pretty steadily in the Top 5 and in most cases Top 3 for The CW Network. Edited November 18, 2018 by Morrigan2575 2 Link to comment
Jonesy November 18, 2018 Share November 18, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 10:26 PM, Casseiopeia said: It's the Live+3 where we are getting killed. Flash, Arrow, Riverdale and SG all have huge increases in demos and viewers. SPN languishes at the bottom of the heap every week. We do pick up more viewers but not anything near what those shows do. Also we haven't trended on SM at all this year. The others have. This is definitely a down year for Supernatural. Perhaps but every ratings expert says the live+3 are not important when they networks judge their shows. So it's irrelevant in when they compare their shows--90% plus they look at day one ratings...and then outside incomes, costs, ownership, etc. 1 Link to comment
Jonesy November 19, 2018 Share November 19, 2018 (edited) So SuperGirl and Charmed got 0.3's again--Supernatural just edges out Riverdale and Arrow in 0.4 territory to be second only behind the Flash again on the CW. Very impressive for season 14 where almost all shows would be long deceased...the show is as hard to kill as Dean, Sam and Cas. On 11/17/2018 at 7:03 PM, Morrigan2575 said: Viewers don't matter only demo. But since you brought it up, viewer growth are listed on the bottom chart at this links. 110518 Riverdale 1.37 to 2.2 Supernatural 1.35 to 1.99 Supergirl 1.16 to 1.85 Everything else falls below Supergirl 102918 Flash 1.85 to 2.7 Supernatural 1.45 to 2.06 Supergirl 1.23 to 1.96 Everything else falls below Supergirl 102218 Flash 1.875 to 2.97 Riverdale 1.40 to 2.12 Supernatural 1.40 to 2.01 Supergirl 1.29 to 1.94 Everything else falls below Supergirl 101518 Flash 1.68 to 2.75 Charmed 1.3 to 2.1 Riverdale 1.28 to 2.09 Supergirl 1.34 to 2.13 Supernatural 1.53 to 2.25 Arrow 1.43 to 2.08 Everything else falls below Arrow I didn't bother with the last week because it's kinda of obvious that Supernatural isn't falling behind in Live+3 viewers or demo. It's pretty steadily in the Top 5 and in most cases Top 3 for The CW Network. Yeah including live+3 ratings SPN's #'s either top 2 or 3 with only Riverdale challenging it behind Flash. Edited November 19, 2018 by Jakes 2 Link to comment
gonzosgirrl November 19, 2018 Share November 19, 2018 Are they airing on Thanksgiving? Link to comment
FlickChick November 19, 2018 Share November 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said: Are they airing on Thanksgiving? Not according to my DVR. Skipping to Nov. 29 Link to comment
gonzosgirrl November 19, 2018 Share November 19, 2018 28 minutes ago, FlickChick said: Not according to my DVR. Skipping to Nov. 29 Well that's good at least. With only 20 eps, blowing one off on Thanksgiving would've been sad. 2 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 November 21, 2018 Share November 21, 2018 Unrounded Live+SD for last week. Posted by @Starfish35 in the Arrow ratings thread. Quote The Flash ............................. 0.622 Riverdale .............................. 0.440 Supernatural ........................ 0.414 Arrow ............................. 0.395 Legacies .............................. 0.341 Supergirl .............................. 0.325 Charmed .............................. 0.290 Black Lightning .................... 0.277 Legends of Tomorrow .......... 0.273 All American ........................ 0.265 Dynasty ............................... 0.212 Crazy Ex-Girlfriend .............. 0.150 3 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 November 28, 2018 Share November 28, 2018 Courtesy of @Starfish35 in the Arrow forum Quote CW Live+7 ratings for the week of November 12-18. (Programming Insider) The Flash - 1.28, 3.230 million. Riverdale - 0.87, 2.259 million. Supernatural - 0.75, 2.334 million. Arrow - 0.67, 1.939 million. (#705 - The Demon) Supergirl - 0.65, 2.117 million. Charmed - 0.62, 1.835 million. Legacies - 0.57, 1.740 million. Legends of Tomorrow - 0.56, 1.652 million. Black Lightning - 0.55, 1.589 million. All American - 0.40*, 1.120 million. Dynasty - 0.28, 0.899 million*. Crazy Ex-Girlfriend - 0.27, 0.623 million. Link to comment
SueB November 30, 2018 Share November 30, 2018 Supernatural (The CW). 0.4/2 1.51 looks like we held. Up in raw numbers. 1 Link to comment
Casseiopeia December 5, 2018 Share December 5, 2018 Supernatural was the 8th most tweeted about show in 2018 https://www.thewrap.com/saturday-night-live-roseanne-most-tweeted-about-shows-2018/ 2 Link to comment
Bobcatkitten December 5, 2018 Share December 5, 2018 (edited) I'm not expecting much from ratings this week. Two episodes in a row about Jack's illness and no hunting? Edited December 5, 2018 by Bobcatkitten Link to comment
catrox14 December 5, 2018 Share December 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, Bobcatkitten said: I'm not expecting much from ratings tonight. Two episodes in a row about Jack's illness and no hunting? Wait, did they change it to Wednesday? Link to comment
Bobcatkitten December 5, 2018 Share December 5, 2018 Just now, catrox14 said: Wait, did they change it to Wednesday? My bad - tomorrow night. Link to comment
catrox14 December 5, 2018 Share December 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Bobcatkitten said: My bad - tomorrow night. I legit wouldn't be surprised I they swapped nights and didn't tell us. LOL Link to comment
Casseiopeia December 7, 2018 Share December 7, 2018 Nice tick up...I didn't like the episode but I'm happy for the stronger ratings. 1 Link to comment
ahrtee December 7, 2018 Share December 7, 2018 (edited) Do you think someone might notice and think..."hmm...no Nick/Lucifer, ratings up"? Nah. (More likely, they'll think "oh, we need more Jack in jeopardy!") *sigh* Edited December 7, 2018 by ahrtee 5 Link to comment
juppschmitz December 7, 2018 Share December 7, 2018 40 minutes ago, ahrtee said: Do you think someone might notice and think..."hmm...no Nick/Lucifer, ratings up"? Nah. (More likely, they'll think "oh, we need more Jack in jeopardy!") *sigh* Also "Oh, if we'd had Lucifer in it the ratings would have been EVEN HIGHER!" 2 Link to comment
Myrelle December 7, 2018 Share December 7, 2018 I think it's pathetic that 1.5 mil is ticking "up" now. 4 Link to comment
ahrtee December 7, 2018 Share December 7, 2018 Just now, Myrelle said: I think it's pathetic that 1.5 mil is ticking "up" now. Low bar gets lower every week. 4 Link to comment
Jonesy December 7, 2018 Share December 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Myrelle said: I think it's pathetic that 1.5 mil is ticking "up" now. That's just the way it is--All networks are down and more and more are cutting cords. That said VERY impressive showing for SPN...showing real legs all year and this episode about the highest rated of the whole year. 3 Link to comment
ILoveReading December 7, 2018 Share December 7, 2018 (edited) Never mind, I looked at the chart wrong Edited December 7, 2018 by ILoveReading Link to comment
Morrigan2575 December 7, 2018 Share December 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Jakes said: That's just the way it is--All networks are down and more and more are cutting cords. That said VERY impressive showing for SPN...showing real legs all year and this episode about the highest rated of the whole year. Arrow and SPN both ticked up this week, not sure why but, it is nice to see the 2 oldest shows out performing everything else (except Flash). 3 Link to comment
Casseiopeia December 14, 2018 Share December 14, 2018 Well not great but par for the season I suppose... Link to comment
Casseiopeia December 26, 2018 Share December 26, 2018 Live Ratings (Overnights) Final Same Day Live +3 Live +7 18-49 0.40 .40 .64(+50%) 0.73(+70%) Total Viewers 1.426M 1.431M 2.00M (+40%) 2.28M(+56%) So a .4 to a .7 with over 2 million viewers in Live+7 Not too bad 4 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 December 28, 2018 Share December 28, 2018 https://tvline.com/2018/12/28/ratings-2018-2019-tv-season-cw-best-worst/ 4th place (or 3rd since Arrow and Riverdale are tied for 2nd) in Live+SD. Probably same or perhaps slightly better when looking at Live+7. Link to comment
Casseiopeia December 28, 2018 Share December 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said: https://tvline.com/2018/12/28/ratings-2018-2019-tv-season-cw-best-worst/ 4th place (or 3rd since Arrow and Riverdale are tied for 2nd) in Live+SD. Probably same or perhaps slightly better when looking at Live+7. I did like that disregarding the demo Supernatural consistently had the second highest viewership on the CW. Link to comment
Jonesy December 28, 2018 Share December 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said: https://tvline.com/2018/12/28/ratings-2018-2019-tv-season-cw-best-worst/ 4th place (or 3rd since Arrow and Riverdale are tied for 2nd) in Live+SD. Probably same or perhaps slightly better when looking at Live+7. Actually SPN really will end up ahead of Arrow into 3rd place alone since Arrow got a temporary "Flash boost" with the yearly merging of the DC shows. Without that Arrow would be solidly behind SPN and will slip behind it again as the year goes on. It may even scoot ahead of Riverdale for second place since it's so close and SPN tends to hold the best during the year for CW shows. 3 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 December 28, 2018 Share December 28, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jakes said: Actually SPN really will end up ahead of Arrow into 3rd place alone since Arrow got a temporary "Flash boost" with the yearly merging of the DC shows. Without that Arrow would be solidly behind SPN and will slip behind it again as the year goes on. It may even scoot ahead of Riverdale for second place since it's so close and SPN tends to hold the best during the year for CW shows. That's a good point. I forgot about the huge boost (0.8) for the crossover. And yeah, I would like to see a table like that for the final ratings because it is possible for SPN to end the season in 2nd place. Edited December 28, 2018 by Morrigan2575 Link to comment
SueB January 7, 2019 Share January 7, 2019 Although the article is about how Netflix could lose it's biggest show, I'm simply thrilled to find out Supernatural is the 6th biggest show on Netflix. https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/1/7/18166911/netflix-friends-the-office-crisis Of all the GAZILLION shows on Netflix. Our little show that could is still Kicking It In the Ass! Damn, I'm proud of them. And yes, it's a worry WB will try to spin off it's own TV streaming service. 6 Link to comment
tessathereaper January 7, 2019 Share January 7, 2019 On the one hand, I wish this show would end because I can't leave until it does. LOL On the other I am really proud for the guys and the crew that its the 6th biggest show on Netflix. That's an accomplishment. 6 Link to comment
SueB January 7, 2019 Share January 7, 2019 (edited) Looking at SpoilerTV's "Cancel Bear", Supernatural is not only "looking safe" for a 15th season - it's the 15th highest (based on their numbers) show in terms of likely to return. Others with worse numbers have been renewed but Superantural is looking good. Also it's second on the CW only to The Flash and way above Supergirl, Arrow and Riverdale. https://www.spoilertv.com/2018/09/spoilertv-cancellation-predictor-table.html Edited January 7, 2019 by SueB 4 Link to comment
FlickChick January 7, 2019 Share January 7, 2019 23 minutes ago, SueB said: Looking at SpoilerTV's "Cancel Bear", Supernatural is not only "looking safe" for a 15th season - it's the 15th highest (based on their numbers) show in terms of likely to return. Others with worse numbers have been renewed but Superantural is looking good. Also it's second on the CW only to The Flash and way above Supergirl, Arrow and Riverdale. https://www.spoilertv.com/2018/09/spoilertv-cancellation-predictor-table.html I'm not surprised that Supernatural would be considered safe, since I believe that a "final season" would definitely be in order for this series. 2 Link to comment
Aeryn13 January 7, 2019 Share January 7, 2019 Quote Although the article is about how Netflix could lose it's biggest show, I'm simply thrilled to find out Supernatural is the 6th biggest show on Netflix. https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/1/7/18166911/netflix-friends-the-office-crisis Of all the GAZILLION shows on Netflix. Our little show that could is still Kicking It In the Ass! Damn, I'm proud of them. And yes, it's a worry WB will try to spin off it's own TV streaming service. I`d be interested in some global Netflix data for TV shows but that is probably really hard to meassure since different things are on the service in different countries. I think the two arguably most globally popular shows are Game of Thrones and Walking Dead. Beyond that, it`s a lot more localized. 1 Link to comment
Pondlass1 January 18, 2019 Share January 18, 2019 I hope Nihilism receives decent ratings. It really was a step above most episodes so far this season. I'm a bit worried that some folk might've tuned in thinking they were going to see Mr and Mrs Winchester (AKA Ice Queen and Negan) and so changed channels. There was a lot of promo for the return of JDM but not very clear about the air date. Fingers crossed. Link to comment
Casseiopeia January 18, 2019 Share January 18, 2019 Well that's disappointing...Supernatural won't be in the top 4 or 5 for the week. Link to comment
gonzosgirrl January 18, 2019 Share January 18, 2019 Not surprising, but yes, disappointing for the best episode of the season. Their promo dept sucks so very hard. 2 Link to comment
gonzosgirrl January 18, 2019 Share January 18, 2019 It's also unsurprising that more people checked out after a pretty lackluster first half of the season. It's a crying fecking shame, when you see the potential they had (given the quality of last night's ep). More of this Michael early on would have held a lot more people's attention. IMO. 6 Link to comment
Pondlass1 January 18, 2019 Share January 18, 2019 I can almost hear Dabb saying “See... I give them Michael Dean and ratings are lacklustre”. Such a shame because this was the best episode this season 3 Link to comment
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