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S22.E03: Best Served Cold


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I love Jamaican patties, and wanted to try all but the ones that turned out to be the bottom three, with the one most making my mouth water was Katiana's, so I was completely in line with the judging.  I felt a little bad for Corwin not placing in the top.

But his EC dish, man, that sounded good!  I also really wanted Kat's and Tristan's.  Katiana's, no, because I don't like licorice, but that's just personal taste; it was impressive and I could tell that was the winning dish based on the response.  She's the only one of the chefs whose food I've had, so I'm extra happy for her.

Anya's ice cream and cake being disasters from jump practically had me watching through my fingertips.  Mossimo also having every element go wrong made me feel for him, too, but Anya emerged as an early favorite.  I'm bummed she's gone, but her dish had nothing going for it while his at least tasted like the assigned ingredient, so I knew he was going to squeak by with a dish that would have been another JT segment with no deliberation in a typical round.

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Now I'm more sad than anything else that Anya's team didn't win last episode, because if her team DID win...she would have most likely won immunity and been safe for this week. 

Honestly sounded like Anya's dish was the judge's favorite dish in the entire challenge last episode.  I could take another week of Bailey if it meant that Anya would last this week.

 

Anya did deserve to go this episode, because that dish was a disaster, but  I really hope she crushes it in LCK, and comes back to the competition.

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I think it was something called buckthorn flour??  I’ve never heard of it.  I’m so sorry to see Anya go as I liked her very much and thought she was a good contender, but her plate was so lackluster, flat, and every part of it was a fail, from what it sounded like and looked like from here.  

All 3 of the chefs at the top in the Elimination Round prepared dishes that seemed sooo good — I would have had a hard time choosing that winner.  Nice night for Katiana — $10K and immunity.

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2 minutes ago, Bastet said:

It was sea buckthorn powder.  Tom wondered if it had something like cornstarch in it that screwed up the texture.  I did a quick look at a few offerings, and one listed no additional ingredients while the other two listed maltodextrin.

Interesting.  It is a bit of a head scratcher why Anya decided to use it — did she say?  I missed a few minutes of the episode.  Sounds like it’s definitely not something Tom would have chosen.  

Baking is a science. You can’t just throw things in at random and expect it to turn out properly.

Did they not have an ice cream machine? Massimo’s ice cream didn’t freeze before he tried the liquid nitrogen, but I’ve never seen liquid nitrogen fail before. I don’t know what he did wrong. And Anya froze her ice cream in molds, so of course they turned out like bricks. Ice cream has to be aerated as it freezes or it freezes solid. She melted and tried to refreeze it. Maybe liquid nitrogen could have helped her.

I honestly don’t know what I would have done if I’d chosen licorice as an ingredient. I hate it with a passion. But I did think Katiana could have used fennel in her broth to get licorice flavor, since she was having trouble with the licorice root. But what do I know? She won!

 

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7 minutes ago, MerBearHou said:

It is a bit of a head scratcher why Anya decided to use it — did she say?

Sea buckthorn is a native plant in Russia (not only Russia), so she wanted to use it in her dish as part of presenting food with Russian ingredients, and she thought using the powder form as part of the cake mix's dry ingredients would be a good way to incorporate it in this instance.

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The display cases of Jamaican patties had me whimpering, like Gimme gimme gimme. I loved the variety of interpretations we got and would've been happy trying even the less successful ones.

There's nobody left I really dislike, so I knew the cuts from here on would mostly be brutal. Katianna and Anya had me pulling for them from early on, so it was interesting to see one successfully adapt at the last minute and the other...not. Anya's culinary perspective is a really interesting one, so hopefully she can fight her way back. 

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Man, Anya's sudden downturn was tough. She was looking like at least one of the top two or three chefs there, but her dish looked like "What if Buddha made a dessert but the aliens from Space Jam stole all of his cooking skill". I really hope she's remembered when it's time to do a second chance or all star edition, early exit be damned, since her point of view is very interesting and her ceiling is very high.

As a casual hockey person, the only term I ever heard of from the quickfire was "biscuit". Passes that go in midair I've heard called "Saucer passes" which is kind of food related. It used to be that to celebrate goals in the Stanley Cup playoffs, the crowd in I think Detroit used to throw actual (deceased) octopuses onto the ice. I'm fuzzy as to the reason why, but it was in the 90's I think. And yes, it was as gross as it sounds.

I was thinking whether they could have made the challenge revolve around NHL team names. But I see that there probably aren't enough. There are Ducks and (Red) Wings, but no one is eating Bruins or Penguins or (these days) Sharks. And Maple (Leafs) has already been a theme.

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10 hours ago, Bastet said:

It was sea buckthorn powder.  Tom wondered if it had something like cornstarch in it that screwed up the texture.  I did a quick look at a few offerings, and one listed no additional ingredients while the other two listed maltodextrin.

I seem to remember seeing that ingredient show up on another cooking competition show.  And it was a disaster then too.

After I saw the chefs playing around "ice skating" on the surface, I was impressed to see the judges make it to their table with no mishaps (some in heels no less)!

Why was Katianna asking her prep-neighbor (I'm terrible with names) for a bit of Pernod? Didn't SHE buy it?

And after I said last week that agrodolche was this year's aguachile, I take it back. Aguachile is this year's aguachile. (And I'm making it for dinner tomorrow, already planned LOL)

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15 hours ago, Jodithgrace said:

Did they not have an ice cream machine?

When they were using the stand mixers, they were churning their ice creams using the KitchenAid ice cream attachment. Basically, it turns the mixer into an ice cream maker along the lines of the popular Cuisinart model (I have one), where you have a frozen bowl and a dasher to churn the ice cream.

Massimo's inexperience with using liquid nitrogen did him in, as Kristen said if it doesn't freeze, "you just keep adding more and more."

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I didn't really like this challenge. It was SO HARD. Maybe the hardest challenge ever.  A cold dish with muffins and biscuits as the main flavor? Cold entrees? That isn't going to be good. The chefs didn't even know what they were signing up for (sans Tristan).  It's telling that the chef from sunny warm LA won, and the chefs from cold Russia and Canada were on the bottom. 

Personally, I need food to be hot to feel like I've eaten. Cold food is appetizers/condiments and desserts. 

Deviled eggs can be cold, but the other stuff was weird. They are ALL super talented that they could produce something the judges liked. 

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18 minutes ago, 7-Zark-7 said:

My thought when I heard her: "Pine needles again? So soon? Oh, girl."

Yes, she may not have enough experience with ingredients/dishes outside her niche. Her restaurant serves Russian food (which is awesome), but I'm not sure she went to culinary school. I'm also not sure if she ever worked in a non-Russian restaurant-- she doesn't have the experience (maybe) to pull from, the other chefs have that have cooked and worked in restaurants creating from a many cultures and cuisines. A basic culinary school (doesn't have to be CIA!) will teach you the basics about ingredients and the physics. She didn't seem to have that knowledge. She seemed to not know that baking requires some measurement. 

I'm still heartbroken. 

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I liked Anya but I knew she was doomed when she decided to throw some Russian forest debris in her cake. I’m not much of a baker but the one thing I know is that it’s far more exacting than other cooking. You can’t just toss in something you think will be fun and hope for the best.

The judges were right that her over eagerness to showcase her heritage did her in.

Plus, I’ve always thought ice cream was a cop out. Too easy to make, especially with liquid nitrogen. Yet, two of them screwed it up. 

20 hours ago, Fukui San said:

"What if Buddha made a dessert but the aliens from Space Jam stole all of his cooking skill".

Laughing so hard at that, thank you! 🤣

1 hour ago, bravofan27 said:

I didn't really like this challenge. It was SO HARD. Maybe the hardest challenge ever.  A cold dish with muffins and biscuits as the main flavor? Cold entrees? That isn't going to be good. The chefs didn't even know what they were signing up for (sans Tristan).  It's telling that the chef from sunny warm LA won, and the chefs from cold Russia and Canada were on the bottom. 

Personally, I need food to be hot to feel like I've eaten. Cold food is appetizers/condiments and desserts.

I didn't love it either but don't think it's the hardest we've seen. Several chefs served dishes that were basically appetizers or desserts so that works out -- but some ingredients were way worse than others. Muffins just felt ridiculous.

Impressed by the treatment of deviled eggs -- that was the only savory take on cold eggs. Well done! (Personally I find deviled eggs REVOLTING but I can appreciate the ingenuity.)

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9 minutes ago, snarktini said:

Muffins just felt ridiculous.
 

LMAO, it's a good thing Zubair had immunity, because it felt like he didn't even try in this challenge.  An ingredient like muffins is so bad that he just said fuck it, despite him basically having a free roll at immunity for the next challenge.  Muffins were so bad that Zubair didn't even try taking big swings and winning this challenge for immunity.

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19 minutes ago, marke34 said:

LMAO, it's a good thing Zubair had immunity, because it felt like he didn't even try in this challenge.  An ingredient like muffins is so bad that he just said fuck it, despite him basically having a free roll at immunity for the next challenge.  Muffins were so bad that Zubair didn't even try taking big swings and winning this challenge for immunity.

He didn't even consider making his own muffins! I think that's the case for both of them. I realize most cheftestants avoid desserts but if you can make a basic cake you can make a muffin and using a mix for your *core* ingredient is just a copout

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I was sad to see Maximo and Anya in the bottom, and didn't want to see either there; but they rightfully were there. Inexperience with their chosen cooking methods did them both in. 

I've never made ice cream before, but I've seen it enough on various cooking shows to know Maximo was using way too little Nitrogen. Most people using it to make ice cream have the full cannister that they're dumping into the mixer. Maximo had a little saucepan worth of Liquid Nitro that probably couldn't chill an ice cube. 

Anya as others noted was focused too mcuh in her cooking style it seemed and was falling back on her roots, and that seemed to do her in in the end. Doing pine needles again so quickly was also a danger sign. 

 

The Jamaican hand pies looked great, both the locally supplied ones and the ones made in the challenge. 

 

Good to see Lynn Crawford again, but I was surprised she had so little fanfaire. Way back when I first started watching Food Network, she was probably one of the first Canadian TV Chefs I really watched (at least on that network); I loved her on the Restaurant Makeover show with another Massimo chef, and she usually has a very outgoing gregarious personality. She seems to have pulled back a bit lately. Still I'm surprised she was just another taster and not considerred another guest judge; unless they are going to bring her back later on? 

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34 minutes ago, snarktini said:

He didn't even consider making his own muffins! I think that's the case for both of them. I realize most cheftestants avoid desserts but if you can make a basic cake you can make a muffin and using a mix for your *core* ingredient is just a copout

Yeah, it's just even more glaring that someone who has a free roll for immunity for next episode, and is safe no matter what like Zubair to not even try making big swings, and show some ambition/risk taking in order to try winning immunity for next episode, even if he's bad at making his own muffins. 

 

At least in Massimo's case, he is in danger of going home if he fucks up, not in Zubair's case.  Doesn't hurt Zubair if he does try to bake his own muffins no matter how hard he fucks up, but he doesn't even try.  An ingredient must be REALLY bad for that to happen.

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3 minutes ago, Taeolas said:

I was sad to see Maximo and Anya in the bottom, and didn't want to see either there; but they rightfully were there. Inexperience with their chosen cooking methods did them both in. 

Yeah I felt the same. I like both of them. I liked Massimo's funny way about it, too, criticizing himself humorously. I'm not happy about Anya being eliminated but I would be even more unhappy if it was Massimo.

Also, it is Massimo, not Maximo or Mossimo. Sorry, I can't help myself, lol.

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One of my earliest thoughts: There's a Tristan? Where did he come from? Honestly could not remember one minute of his previous work. Then, yuck, cold egg dishes! Then, yuck, cold licorice dishes! Then, ugh, poor Anya with the horrible cake and the horrible ice cream for a cake and ice cream dish. 

Then, oh, this Tristan is pretty good! Cold egg and licorice dishes in the top. Still, yuck!

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2 hours ago, caitmcg said:

There was a reason we saw a lot of tartare, ceviche, aguachile, and the like. They are not meant to be served warm.

Yes, definitely. I think it was hard to pull off with the "mains" they were given. 

1 hour ago, Yeah No said:

Yeah I felt the same. I like both of them. I liked Massimo's funny way about it, too, criticizing himself humorously. I'm not happy about Anya being eliminated but I would be even more unhappy if it was Massimo.

Also, it is Massimo, not Maximo or Mossimo. Sorry, I can't help myself, lol.

I think Tom really likes Maximo. He's always cracking up when he talks, and seems eager to hear him say whatever he says about whatever he made. Maximo got MUFFINS. For a cold dish! How the heck is anyone going to pull that off? I'm surprised most of the chefs pulled off edible dishes. I think they all should win. 

I'm probably projecting my own Maximo crush onto Tom, but I think we both really like him. He's just fantastic. He probably won't win, but he will be around somewhere because of his awesome personality. 

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On 3/27/2025 at 7:53 PM, ProudMary said:

I'm very sorry to see Anya go. I've enjoyed her determination to showcase northern Russian ingredients, but that dish was a disaster. I do wonder if that one ingredient (name escapes me) that she used in her cake, actually did have an effect on its consistency. 

 

Why didn't she just make a hearty (cold) borscht?  Maybe not particularly exciting (though she could have zhuzhed it up without using pine needles), but probably safe and something I'm sure she could make in her sleep.  Sometimes the cheftestants make very foolish decisions.

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1 hour ago, bravofan27 said:

An egg-centric borscht?  Cabbage and egg, beets and egg, sour egg soup? I'm curious what you think could have been done to feature the ingredient and be a borscht. 

Yes, sorry, I'd forgotten about the egg bit, but I think you could certainly make a borscht (beets, cabbage, potatoes,onions, dill, etc) with a poached egg or two.  There are a million recipes for borscht.

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One recipe I've seen for borscht recommends serving it with hard-boiled eggs, so that's a possibility. But if you're going to do an ice cream, making it a really rich gelato would be the logical step for me.

Anyway, I'm very sad Anya got the boot. Because she seemed to know what she did wrong, I thought she'd be spared. Tom likes it when chefs admit their failures but also can demonstrate good cooking knowledge by figuring out where they went off the rails (like Massimo's rant, which was hilarious). So this was a bummer.

But! I'm glad there was suspense! This felt like a proper judges' table this time. I hope that particular bugaboo has worked itself out!

Anyway, good job, Katianna, I hate licorice, but I'm sure your dish was great. I also have lived in New York for over twenty years and for some reason have never had a Jamaican patty. I should fix that at some point.

Lastly, I hope Lynn Crawford makes another appearance! Whenever I see her in something, she's usually loud and hilarious, and I'm sad she was barely on screen. Bring your wacky aunt energy, gal!

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1 hour ago, Rai said:

Anyway, I'm very sad Anya got the boot. Because she seemed to know what she did wrong, I thought she'd be spared. Tom likes it when chefs admit their failures but also can demonstrate good cooking knowledge by figuring out where they went off the rails (like Massimo's rant, which was hilarious). So this was a bummer.

Massimo also knew his myriad flaws, but what saved him is at least his dish tasted like his assigned ingredient while hers didn't even have that one thing going for it.

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36 minutes ago, sugarbaker design said:

I'm going to miss Anya. She was unique, warm, interesting and reminded me of my favorite singer Allison Moyet.

I also liked that she seemed a bit older than average for this show. As I get older myself that appeals to me. It's also refreshing because there's so much ageism out there especially toward women.

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9 hours ago, Ancaster said:

Yes, sorry, I'd forgotten about the egg bit, but I think you could certainly make a borscht (beets, cabbage, potatoes,onions, dill, etc) with a poached egg or two.  There are a million recipes for borscht.

The thing is, for this challenge, every component was supposed to be egg focused (to win). So however she would prepare the ingredients in the soup would have to be "treated" with egg (again, to win). I think she went with what she did because she could put egg into each component. Plus, they aren't allowed to look online or do homework for recipes when they are planning their food. 

A COLD poached egg should never be put into ANYTHING ever. IMO. 

This challenge really required a good grasp on good ole physics. 

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On 3/27/2025 at 10:57 PM, marke34 said:

Now I'm more sad than anything else that Anya's team didn't win last episode, because if her team DID win...she would have most likely won immunity and been safe for this week. 

Honestly sounded like Anya's dish was the judge's favorite dish in the entire challenge last episode.  I could take another week of Bailey if it meant that Anya would last this week.

I didn’t get that impression at all. Zubair’s chicken was the clear star and favorite of last week’s maple brunch themed challenge.

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23 minutes ago, Rahul said:

I didn’t get that impression at all. Zubair’s chicken was the clear star and favorite of last week’s maple brunch themed challenge.

Could just be that Anya's dish was so unique last week that I was swayed by that, I'll go rewatch it, in either case...if her team won that challenge, she most likely would have gotten immunity.

That's the only thing I really regret about Anya's situation in this episode, because there's no way she wouldn't go home on her disastrous dish without her having immunity, despite her being such a frontrunner for the first 2 episodes.

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This is going to be one hell of a season! Not only are all the remaining chefs very likable; they are all very talented. I wanted to taste everything, even the misfires. (And if you remember me from past seasons, you know I'm the King of Snark, so that's sayin' something).

That being said, I was very sorry to see Anya leave already. She had a very interesting perspective with a cuisine that is not at all familiar to me and doesn't seem like it would be very good. I thought this week's poor performance was more a matter of execution than flavor. 

Also glad to see Katianna's win. I am a big fan of anise flavor - ouzo, arak and sambuca are my 3 favorite liqueurs, having both Lebanese and Italian in my background - and I do enjoy when anise is incorporated into other dishes.

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5 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

The thing is, for this challenge, every component was supposed to be egg focused (to win). So however she would prepare the ingredients in the soup would have to be "treated" with egg (again, to win). I think she went with what she did because she could put egg into each component. Plus, they aren't allowed to look online or do homework for recipes when they are planning their food. 

A COLD poached egg should never be put into ANYTHING ever. IMO. 

This challenge really required a good grasp on good ole physics. 

This early on, the field is so big, you can usually take the risk with a "safe" dish that doesn't really focus as much on the whammy, but still matches the overall spirit of the challenge. So a cold borscht dish with an egg element accessory or tossed on would probably earn some grumbling from the judges, but should keep you firmly in the pack and safe for the next week. Especially with a challenge where everyone is struggling with an unfamiliar food style (Cold dishes) and difficult whammy ingredients (eggs, muffins, etc...) 

Considering her heritage, and the fact that no one else (save one I think) did anything close to a borscht type dish, if Anya had done that, even with the egg barely featured, she'd probably have earned a kudos for it. Maybe not enough for a top dish but enough to be comfortably ahead in the pack. 

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On 3/27/2025 at 11:21 PM, Fukui San said:

It used to be that to celebrate goals in the Stanley Cup playoffs, the crowd in I think Detroit used to throw actual (deceased) octopuses onto the ice. I'm fuzzy as to the reason why, but it was in the 90's I think.

They (actually one guy -- for decades) threw the octopus because it has eight legs, and before expansion in the 60s, it took eight wins to win the Stanley Cup. The tradition started in the 40s or 50s, so it was around a while.

Unpopular opinion, but Massimo was working my last nerve in this episode. He basically copied the patty he tasted, but didn't include anything other than the oxtail. And it was ground into so smooth a paste it looked disgusting. Seriously made me want to barf. The rest of the episode he was a try-too-hard look-at-me smirking jerk. He's the only chef left I want eliminated. I was so sad every component of Anya's dish was a failure. Once again, all the the first chefs eliminated are women.

 

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3 hours ago, Taeolas said:

This early on, the field is so big, you can usually take the risk with a "safe" dish that doesn't really focus as much on the whammy, but still matches the overall spirit of the challenge. So a cold borscht dish with an egg element accessory or tossed on would probably earn some grumbling from the judges, but should keep you firmly in the pack and safe for the next week. Especially with a challenge where everyone is struggling with an unfamiliar food style (Cold dishes) and difficult whammy ingredients (eggs, muffins, etc...) 

Considering her heritage, and the fact that no one else (save one I think) did anything close to a borscht type dish, if Anya had done that, even with the egg barely featured, she'd probably have earned a kudos for it. Maybe not enough for a top dish but enough to be comfortably ahead in the pack. 

I'm going to respectfully disagree. LOL. Paula was in the bottom because he dish wasn't infused with enough peanut butter, and Maximo only stayed because his dish was muffin forward. 

I would have made egg muffin-tops (as bread) and filled with a creamy egg salad, and a dipping sauce made with egg yolk and tomato. 

Here is my remaining chef cheat sheet.

1. Cesar --> Really tall lanky. Mexican. Chicago

2. Corwin--> Bald, facial hair. Carribean cuisine. NYC

3. Henry --> Bald, prominent bushy mustache, works with TC Evelyn. Houston

4. Kat --> Short dark bangs, red lipstick. Los Angeles. 

5. Katianna --> Adopted Korean, big bun in hair. Los Angeles

6. Lana--> Long hair, wears bandanas, African diaspera cuisine. NYC

7. Maximo --> also known as Massimo. Loud booming voice. Canada

8. Paula --> Ecuador, showcased Ecuadorian flavors. KY

9. Shuai --> kind of looks like Buddha. Big teeth, Chinese cuisine. SC

10. Tristan --> wears hat, lots of facial hair, new afro-Caribbean cuisine. Houston

11. Vinny --> no facial hair, apple bowls. Napa

12. Zubair --> Indian, facial hair, glasses. Chicago

 

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3 hours ago, Taeolas said:

This early on, the field is so big, you can usually take the risk with a "safe" dish that doesn't really focus as much on the whammy, but still matches the overall spirit of the challenge. So a cold borscht dish with an egg element accessory or tossed on would probably earn some grumbling from the judges, but should keep you firmly in the pack and safe for the next week. Especially with a challenge where everyone is struggling with an unfamiliar food style (Cold dishes) and difficult whammy ingredients (eggs, muffins, etc...) 

Considering her heritage, and the fact that no one else (save one I think) did anything close to a borscht type dish, if Anya had done that, even with the egg barely featured, she'd probably have earned a kudos for it. Maybe not enough for a top dish but enough to be comfortably ahead in the pack. 

That was what I didn't understand in terms of her "strategy".

I would imagine she could have made some kind of incredibly elevated version of a cold soup incorporating eggs. 

Completely different cuisine but my favorite gazpacho recipe has a very runny egg that is macerated with raw garlic.

I am the furthest thing from a top chef or a top baker but as soon as I saw her attempting to "wing" it with the cake batter I knew she was loomed because you can't wing it with cakes as they rely are more of a chemical project. You can tinker with flavors so long as you are sure that the ingredients you are using to flavor would have the same chemical interactions as what the standard ingredients would have.

But ultimately that is what separates a very good chef from being the competitive chef who rises to the challenge. And there have been winners - or at least people who made it to the finals who didn't immediately lead the pack and played it safe but they generally didn't outright fail and the results were generally tasty. Often they were admonished to step their creativity towards the middle as the pack got smaller. 

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5 hours ago, carrps said:

Unpopular opinion, but Massimo was working my last nerve in this episode. He basically copied the patty he tasted, but didn't include anything other than the oxtail. And it was ground into so smooth a paste it looked disgusting. Seriously made me want to barf. The rest of the episode he was a try-too-hard look-at-me smirking jerk. He's the only chef left I want eliminated. 

I'm with you on Massimo, I don't like him. He's chaotic in the kitchen - was it Henry who shared a bench and commented that he's like a hurricane? I don't think his food has lived up to his bravado at all.

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