S14.E14: Hemlines, and Headlines

[Pi237]

I loved the wallpaper, too. Except her bedroom, wasn't into that one.  But I love that bold wallpaper is making a comeback. However, I worry I'd tire of the design long before I could afford to change it. Its so much easier to switch out wall hangings or pillows. But if I could afford it, I'd be all in on new wallpaper every six months. There are such gorgeous patterns out now. Back in the old days, it was just pastel flowers or stripes.

[NessMess]

Funny how Kathy's limp went away when she had to scurry back to her seat to avoid being trampled by the models.

[nexxie]

imo Kathy’s schtick is as calculated as the one her daughter Paris came up with to keep her on camera - especially all the verbal “mistakes.” Calling Mauricio Maurice, PK PJ, suggesting Dorit as MC. She’s a mean girl masquerading as ditz - has probably used this tactic for decades. Keeps her safe.

[twilightzone]

Yeah, the whole Kathy segment looked suspicious - as if it was part of a producer set-up.  Her asking about Dorit came off as if she was repeating lines.  Then the other women were yelling at her from the audience - which just drew more attention.

Sutton got what she needed from Reba.  She's in her 80's and went beyond to try to be there. Whereas it's Erika who is constantly nick-picking and making her mother unwelcome.  At least this time, they seem to have a pleasant visit.  But remember the last visit where she was angry at mother for showing up to her Broadway show - without an invitation.  Then she complained about the dishes.  

Edited 20 hours ago by twilightzone

[Mindthinkr]

2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

3 hours ago, Pi237 said:

 

I thought it was odd they didn't put on the hospital gown we peasants have to wear.

Usually I have to wait for the results, I have never gotten them immediately after my mammo. 

Very odd indeed to just wear a sundress that you just pull down to expose the breast. Where I live you get the results by mail. Usually it takes weeks to a month. 
However I’m of the no news is good news on that. I imagine they’d call if something needed to be Re imaged or necessitated further investigation. 

[dancingdreamer]

5 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I was looking forward to seeing that trench coat jumpsuit on a model but I didn't see it, full disclosure I fell asleep during some of the show then woke up at some point then went back to sleep.

I doubt we saw the whole show. I dozed off at one point as well.

It was interesting  to hear Jennifer  Tilly  on WWHL, say how awful Sutton  felt after she mentioned  her wallet, but they never  showed that part( her words) and that Sutton  had thought about giving  Dorit the purse she took from her.

Edited Wednesday at 07:00 PM by dancingdreamer

[Twiz44]

1 hour ago, Mindthinkr said:

Very odd indeed to just wear a sundress that you just pull down to expose the breast. Where I live you get the results by mail. Usually it takes weeks to a month. 
However I’m of the no news is good news on that. I imagine they’d call if something needed to be Re imaged or necessitated further investigation. 

If your Primary doc orders a “diagnostic” mammogram the films will be reviewed immediately by the Radiologist on site. If it’s all good, you’re on your way. If there’s a concern they may do additional images or an ultrasound. 

[Surrealist]

6 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

How weird and random was it that Kathy suggested to Sutton that Dorit could MC the show?!

I feel as if that was a producer-driven moment to create extra drama during the fashion show.

6 hours ago, SweetieDarling said:

 b) can you imagine the entertainment fiasco had Dorit been allowed to narrate a fashion show for a woman she currently despises 

[politichick]

2 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

Very odd indeed to just wear a sundress that you just pull down to expose the breast. Where I live you get the results by mail. Usually it takes weeks to a month. 
However I’m of the no news is good news on that. I imagine they’d call if something needed to be Re imaged or necessitated further investigation. 

Yikes!!! Where do you live? In Massachusetts, you get the results within 48 hours by visiting the portal or a call if there's a problem.

[Surrealist]

5 hours ago, Pi237 said:

Kathy to the radiology tech “Is that  Bath & Body you have on?”  Was that shade? Lol.   Nice of them to do a public service announcement for mammograms tho. Get those boobies checked!!! 

As a breast cancer survivor, I love that all Richards sisters are filmed getting their annual mammos.

I'll never drag them for bringing the awareness onto the show.

It's really important for people to get them. 

[ZettaK]

5 hours ago, dmeets said:

If Kathy's been to a fashion show since her children were born, she'd know that there's never an announcer describing the clothes. And the thought of that announcer should be Dorit of all people? The woman who can't stand the sound of not hearing her own voice unless she's being told she's not the richest woman in the room? Nah. Kathy was either getting back at Sutton, or being an attention whore.

At least this episode was back to the usual calmness of everyone just taking swipes behind each other's back. Too bad the nastiness is going to creep back up soon.

Erika's mom hated the wallpaper. I'm with her.

I go with Kathy being an attention whore.

[Surrealist]

4 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Yup more of Erika’s fleeing from the horror that was being married to Tom BS.. she didn’t flee till inklings of he was going to be arrested for embezzlement came up … she only left him to save her ass

 

this revisionist take of her being strong and building something on her own is bullshit .. she was literally fighting with the goverment and his estate to keep funds from those victims he ripped off 

I couldn't believe Erika's mother was backing up her revisionist take either.

I could swear Renee was kind of bitch toward Erika in the latter's earlier seasons. 

Renee and Reba strike me as similar in personality. It's kind of why I'm shocked that Erika and Sutton have never been able to get along. They share commonalities in their upbringings. That's usually a tie that binds people. 🤷🏻‍♀️

4 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Usually I have to wait for the results, I have never gotten them immediately after my mammo. 

The earliest for me is 24 hours.

Otherwise it might be 48 hours.

[ZettaK]

Kathy was either asked by production to talk to Sutton, or most probably she thought about it herself, because what person in production would ask for somebody to MC a fashion show? She wanted to facilitate a reconciliation between Sutton and Dorit, but that was the wrong timing.

Kathy also did it literally minutes before the show started, so she received all the attention. She was not exactly sober either because she was slurring her words. 

[dancingdreamer]

1 hour ago, Twiz44 said:

If your Primary doc orders a “diagnostic” mammogram the films will be reviewed immediately by the Radiologist on site. If it’s all good, you’re on your way. If there’s a concern they may do additional images or an ultrasound. 

We can't  leave, until  a radiologist  has looked  at the xrays. I also get my results for signing  up to My health care, and often know before my doctor.

[Salacious Kitty]

I've had results as quickly as being ready by the time I got home, but that was unusual. It's usually a day, maybe two, before I get an email to sign into the portal. 

[Natalie68]

26 minutes ago, dancingdreamer said:

We can't  leave, until  a radiologist  has looked  at the xrays. I also get my results for signing  up to My health care, and often know before my doctor.

same

[Pi237]

1 hour ago, Surrealist said:

As a breast cancer survivor, I love that all Richards sisters are filmed getting their annual mammos.

I'll never drag them for bringing the awareness onto the show.

It's really important for people to get them. 

100%. I wasn’t dragging them, in case it came across that way. I legitimately meant, kudos to them. 
 

My wait for results varies from 24-48 hours online, to days letter in a mailed letter.  

[ZettaK]

Sutton was on Bravo's Watch What Happens Live yesterday. The first question Andy Cohen asked her was about the wallet comment to Dorit (because there was social media, blog, podcast, etc. uproar). She said people say things that shouldn't say when they are angry. But she kind of doubled down after that, and Andy Cohen asked if she was double downing. 

Edited Wednesday at 09:18 PM by ZettaK

[Yours Truly]

16 hours ago, Chalby said:

I was surprised that she had actual fashion photographers there. I want to know what their impressions were. The collection didn't appear cohesive, and I didn't recognize any outfit being the showstopper. Or maybe Bravo intentionally gave her fashion show a bad edit. To me, it was reminiscent of an average Sears catalogue collection.

Someone mentioned Suttons dress not fitting her quite right and I agree. It's a beautiful dress, though. It reminded me of the first time I noticed Sutton. She was with Lisa R at Versace, and she came out with a sheer pink blouse with some overpriced gold bra  This is NOT body shaming, but Sutton look like a toddler playing dress up. All women are generally aware of their body type (apple, pear, hourglass etc) and by 40, we should all know what clothing designs suit you, especially if she's representing herself as a fashionista. Sutton is better suited to the Jackie O, Chanel style suits. If you're unsure, go for the timeless look.

 

This is how I see things. Not to body shame or be mean but style really does mean something. Fashion can be subjective, creative and has range but STYLE... that's the technical and beautiful ART of it all. To make it drape and flow and accentuate in a particular way the shape it's adorning. I really enjoy the "LOOK" of it all so when people act as if all the components of style don't need to be just right I get annoyed because a true fashionista will care about the style and the look of it all and how it all comes together completely with jewlery, shoes, purse, hair, makeup etc. etc. etc. not just the garment itself. 

So yes my darlings the body is definitely a part of the equation. No matter the size or shape, you can look fabulous no matter what but please, please, please take into account what will and will not drape you in the most fantastic way because that's the fun. Slaying in a particular piece that works specifically for YOU. What could be more satisfying than having a garment applaud your perfect body (whatever shape that may be). 

Too much energy is placed on the garment being the star when it should at the most be YOUR Co-Star. Sutton walks around as a non billed extra in her fashion journey and it saddens me so. 

 

[StevieRocks]

The press? You're not Jennifer Aniston, Vile. You're a <very boring> useless zoo ape on a howives show. 🙄

[Surrealist]

1 hour ago, Pi237 said:

100%. I wasn’t dragging them, in case it came across that way. I legitimately meant, kudos to them. 
 

My wait for results varies from 24-48 hours online, to days letter in a mailed letter.  

Oh, I knew you weren't at all. 

I wanted to mention that since I tend to give Kyle shit for other things. 😂

[janiema]

I actually enjoy Kathy’s scenes. Much of what she did this episode, I believe, was producer driven. Kathy’s awkward persona is so silly that I relax and my blood pressure goes down when I see her coming because I know this is not going to involve fighting. So much of what we see is production driven that we can’t know what is real.

I, too, appreciate the encouragement that Kathy and Kyle present about mammograms. They lost their mother to breast cancer and they know the importance of screening. Kadooz Kathy and Kyle.

[Cosmocrush]

16 minutes ago, janiema said:

I, too, appreciate the encouragement that Kathy and Kyle present about mammograms. They lost their mother to breast cancer and they know the importance of screening. Kadooz Kathy and Kyle.

Yes!  Kyle has done her mammogram on camera before and I hope she continues it.  I remember once they asked her to stay back because the Dr. wanted to talk to her and I think she honestly had a panic attack (as I have in a similar situation). 

However, I can't imagine Kathy wearing a sundress that she just pulled down would be allowed for anyone else. That was unusual. 

[Rlb8031]

22 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

I think this happened when they had the huge software problem that knocked out travel for a couple of days. 

There was just a TikTok of T-Pain (a rapper/songwriter/producer) flying commercial from Atl to Vegas. He is on the plane, responding to folks who are clowning him about not flying private showing that the PJ for that flight is $126k dollars. My guess is that Sutton's GA to CA flight probably has a similar cost.

She's wealthy, but not stupid. She's not spending $126k to fly her mama cross country when she can have her fly first class commercial for 1/20th of the cost. Remember that Garcelle and Kyle complained that the three of them flew commercial when they went to visit. $4k first class tickets will get you there just the same.

[Chit Chat]

33 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

However, I can't imagine Kathy wearing a sundress that she just pulled down would be allowed for anyone else. That was unusual. 

Keeping their clothes on was the safest way of not having a wardrobe/hospital gown malfunction!

Where I get my mammogram done, you take your shirt & bra off and put on a half-gown thing that doesn't stay on anyway!  I would much prefer to go in and just lift my shirt up rather than deal with the very loose-fitting hospital gown that won't cooperate!  

[bravofan27]

Garcelle's son is very handsome and I think he is going to have a future in modeling. He's 16 now, but those cheekbones and facial structure aren't going anywhere.

The taglines are always a little cringy. Here are some more.

Kyle: I'm not gay but my girlfriend is.

Sutton: Who needs a mother's love when you have alimony!

Ericka: Sugar babies have no age or income. Bring on the daddies.

Jennifer Tilly: I've gone from poker face to reaction shots and I nail them both.

Garcelle: HBCUs are my business. Drama is my passion. 

Yes, I know. They all suck. 

 

[bravofan27]

4 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Kathy also did it literally minutes before the show started, so she received all the attention. She was not exactly sober either because she was slurring her words. 

Is Kathy ever sober? She said she broke her knee but was still at the party with a drink in hand. If emergency rooms had a bar, Kathy would be there every day. 

[ZettaK]

5 hours ago, Rlb8031 said:

There was just a TikTok of T-Pain (a rapper/songwriter/producer) flying commercial from Atl to Vegas. He is on the plane, responding to folks who are clowning him about not flying private showing that the PJ for that flight is $126k dollars. My guess is that Sutton's GA to CA flight probably has a similar cost.

She's wealthy, but not stupid. She's not spending $126k to fly her mama cross country when she can have her fly first class commercial for 1/20th of the cost. Remember that Garcelle and Kyle complained that the three of them flew commercial when they went to visit. $4k first class tickets will get you there just the same.

One can share a private plane with others (buy a seat) who want to fly to the same destination instead of chartering a plane, and pay a fraction of the cost. It can be from  $4,000 (or less) and up per hour depending on the type of plane, and so on. There are ads on tv here in SE Florida. 

Edited 19 hours ago by ZettaK

[ZettaK]

As for Kyle, she was naive to think that she could ask Mauricio for a separation, he would move out, and he would eventually feel helpless, miss her, and return home. It seems that she accepted that this is not going to happen. 

[Chatty Cake]

I’m so unimpressed with Sutton that I enjoyed Kathy’s nonsense. I thought it was hilarious that she went back to bother the Beverly Hills southern asshole belle about having Dorit announce the show. I also enjoyed Jennifer Tilly. I think she looks great and she doesn’t appear to have that Ozempic look. 
I might be one of the few that wishes Kyle and Mo had stayed together. I didn’t like the Morgan crap last season and I don’t want to see Mo with his hookers or whatever trash he’s spending time with. Gross. 
The show is better with less Boz. 

[Sweet-tea]

On 3/4/2025 at 11:16 PM, Cosmocrush said:

Speaking of whom, what effing trauma did Erika survive????  The way her mother and she were talking one might think she escaped some abusive marriage instead of walking out the minute the money stopped.  

ITA. I've had enough of her victim routine. Her husband got into legal trouble and she was caught in the crossfire. This happens when you're married to a man who is willing to bilk people out of money to sustain his and your lifestyle. You're not a trauma victim, you're a golddigger. So shut up, Erika. 

Kyle and others referred to Mauricio as single, but aren't they still married? Neither has filed for divorce, right? It sounds like at least a part of Kyle was hoping there might be a reconciliation at some point, or that he would at least miss her. Doesn't look like either of those things is happening. 

Kathy isn't that old to be so doddering and loopy. My 90+ year-old mother-in-law is more alert. Is Kathy on drugs or is this part of her schtick? 

On 3/5/2025 at 12:24 AM, dancingdreamer said:

Would it of hurt Dorit to say it was a nice show in her TH, it's not like she's  the fashion  plate she once was.

She's still angry, and not just at Sutton but basically at everyone, especially PK. 

Sutton's "are you proud of me" comments to her daughter and mother were a little much for me. She sounded a bit needy and self-absorbed. Just say thank you and leave the stage.

On 3/4/2025 at 10:03 PM, dbell1 said:

But not as sick as I was having Morgan shoved down our throats all last year. 

When they showed Kyle at Morgan's concert I thought, please do not bring back Morgan. I had enough of her last season. No interest in Morgan and Kyle. 

Edited 6 hours ago by Sweet-tea

[Sweet-tea]

On 3/5/2025 at 7:08 AM, SweetieDarling said:

She was definitely not sober

On 3/5/2025 at 7:01 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

I wondered! 

[FlyingEgret]

On 3/5/2025 at 10:08 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

I loved it, maybe I am crazy?

I loved the wallpaper too; but thought the print might be too big for that small space; it seemed to take over instead of enhancing if that makes any sense.

I was mostly excited to not see any neon signs!

[Chalby]

On 3/5/2025 at 2:25 AM, hoodooznoodooz said:

Aaaaahhhhh! Boy, you brought me back!!! I loved when they delivered Sears catalogues to our house - - for free. It kept me entertained for hours. I thought the “fashion” was beyond!!!

I was born in 1964.

My memory is of the Wishbook. That took a full Saturday 

[bravofan27]

Regarding Dorit's tagline, "I may look like a doll, but don't wind me up."

The toys that you wind up are those plastic things that bob around and fall off the table or hit a table leg and go nowhere. Regardless, toys that you wind up go away and I think that's what we all want Dorit to do. 

[goofygirl]

19 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

Garcelle's son is very handsome and I think he is going to have a future in modeling. He's 16 now, but those cheekbones and facial structure aren't going anywhere.

The taglines are always a little cringy. Here are some more.

Kyle: I'm not gay but my girlfriend is.

Sutton: Who needs a mother's love when you have alimony!

Ericka: Sugar babies have no age or income. Bring on the daddies.

Jennifer Tilly: I've gone from poker face to reaction shots and I nail them both.

Garcelle: HBCUs are my business. Drama is my passion. 

Yes, I know. They all suck. 

 

You forgot Dorito!

[Yours Truly]

2 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

Kyle and others referred to Mauricio as single, but aren't they still married? Neither has filed for divorce, right? It sounds like at least a part of Kyle was hoping there might be a reconciliation at some point, or that he would at least miss her. Doesn't look like either of those things is happening. 

 

Kyle is far from my favorite housewife but I do get annoyed when people act as if separated is the same as single. 

People separate for different reasons and to be honest I think it's in bad taste to run around as if you are completely single while you're still navigating the end of a marriage. Especially in this case where neither have actually committed to the idea of a DEFINITE divorce. Like ill... You've got a whole family but the first thing that has to be on the agenda is intimate socializing all over the world? 

Sometimes I think people believe that one MUST immediately get into the "scene" after a split. There are so many important components to finalizing a whole life together and finding new ground but nope. Let's go out and worry about superficial details first and foremost. Paaaaarrrrttttyyyy.... 

I really don't get this mentality that intimately palling around with the opposite sex is such a "must have" thing. It's okay to not be on someone's arm 2.5 seconds after the last one and at the very least finish putting a period to the last chapter before behaving as if that last chapter meant nothing. 

I really just don't get the callousness of this phenomenon. There are so many more important things in this world then finding the next one to share your bed. It's sad really. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Yours Truly

[Baltimore Betty]

1 hour ago, Yours Truly said:

Kyle is far from my favorite housewife but I do get annoyed when people act as if separated is the same as single. 

People separate for different reasons and to be honest I think it's in bad taste to run around as if you are completely single while you're still navigating the end of a marriage. Especially in this case where neither have actually committed to the idea of a DEFINITE divorce. Like ill... You've got a whole family but the first thing that has to be on the agenda is intimate socializing all over the world? 

Sometimes I think people believe that one MUST immediately get into the "scene" after a split. There are so many important components to finalizing a whole life together and finding new ground but nope. Let's go out and worry about superficial details first and foremost. Paaaaarrrrttttyyyy.... 

I really don't get this mentality that intimately palling around with the opposite sex is such a "must have" thing. It's okay to not be on someone's arm 2.5 seconds after the last one and at the very least finish putting a period to the last chapter before behaving as if that last chapter meant nothing. 

I really just don't get the callousness of this phenomenon. There are so many more important things in this world then finding the next one to share your bed. It's sad really. 

I get what you are saying, and I agree with a lot of what you posted but we also do not know what Kyle and Mo have said to each other in real life, Kyle is not being "open and honest," with us so if Mo is running around the globe and acting single something tells me Kyle said for him to go for it.  Of course, Kyle is stunned he is doing what she said to do.

There is something about jumping from Bed A to Bed B not being the wisest thing to do but I do not think Mo is looking for the next Mrs. Mo. 

I would think that he would take his kids into consideration in playing it cool and not be public about his single like life style but maybe they all know something about him.

 

[Pattycake2]

Erika is horrible and should never be given a pass on any of her actions.  That being said, she looked stunning in the simple slacks and top worn during the decor reveal.  She seems to prefer bright colors and flashy patterns, but I think she should stick to simple and classic.  She is definitely the prettiest of the group.  I have also noticed that she is somehow softer and can now laugh and make fun of herself.  Those first several seasons she was “inherently” cold, snooty and mean.

Suttons green dress was awful on her.  Sutton is skinny, but she has a tummy and absolutely no ass.  I mean really, NO ASS. 

Why does everyone in LA want their children to model?  It’s generally a difficult and sometimes unhealthy career.  Go to school.  Get a career.

[bravofan27]

44 minutes ago, Pattycake2 said:

Suttons green dress was awful on her.  Sutton is skinny, but she has a tummy and absolutely no ass.  I mean really, NO ASS. 

Why does everyone in LA want their children to model?  It’s generally a difficult and sometimes unhealthy career.  Go to school.  Get a career.

I felt bad for Sutton in her dress. It was a beautiful dress but she has that tummy and that dress accentuated it. Like Pattycake2 said, Sutton is super tiny. She needs a tummy tuck with liposuction and then needs to get rid  of all the booze! She has the alcohol middle. Her mother has it too. Sutton  isn't going to get rid of the tummy without surgery. She can't possibly lose any more weight.

On this show, I think Garcelle is the only one actively pushing modeling, which I agree is liming.  I think with Rinna, she thought the modeling would help her girls pay for college. Yolanda had no concept of college, and just wanted her girls to be models so they could land a billionaire like she did. With Garcelle, I'm not sure, but I'm thinking she thinks that modeling will give the kid some income because she isn't making much on her dumb Lifetime movies and she lacks any sort of personality to carry a podcast or something similar, IMO. I wonder if Garcelle doesn't like Dorit because they are both super fake drifters. I

My personal issue, but I turned my back on Garcelle when she said her drug addicted son tried to get into her house and she called the cops on him. That's just disgusting IMO. I have no respect for women who abandon their children, regardless of their age or reason. He went there because he needed help and was desperate, and she threw him under the bus. You can't trust people who will hurt their own children. 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by bravofan27

[Chit Chat]

4 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

It sounds like at least a part of Kyle was hoping there might be a reconciliation at some point, or that he would at least miss her.

I'm confused by their relationship.  Granted, I missed a few seasons of this show (couldn't watch Rinna any longer), so I probably missed a lot.  Help me out here in filling in the blanks, please!

So, after the death of one of Kyle's best friends, she seemed to be growing apart from Mauricio and kept him at arm's length.  To me, she didn't seem to know what she wanted in life.  Then she said that he broke her trust, but didn't specify what happened.  Last night, Kathy said that she was aware of the rumors about him the past few years (I thought that was an important piece of info).   So, if he cheated, did she really want him back?  Was it something else that broke her trust, but she would be able to forgive him?  

Mauricio moved out and seems to have gotten on with his life, but now Kyle is lonely.  I agree that she probably wants to know that he misses her, but I still don't think she really knows what she wants. Honestly, she didn't look that broken up about the picture of Mauricio kissing the other woman.  We've seen her yell, cry and stomp out of a room over much less!  

I guess my question is does Kyle really want him back or not. 

4 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

Sutton's "are you proud of me" comments to her daughter and mother were a little much for me.

Agreed.  She's wandering into Sally Field territory:  "You like me!"  Right now, you like me!!"