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S03.E06: No Faith In Second Chances

Snazzy Daisy

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possibilities

possibilities

I miss Cricket. I trusted her and liked her more than I trust or like Marion. Marion seems too good, by which I mean, too one dimensional and obvious, like she's been curated. It feels fake, and thus boring. 

Putting the suspect in jail and seeing another murder happen while he's in custody would help his case. So, despite how upset he was, I was kind of glad they had John locked up. I was sure the killer would kill again while he was in custody. Probably the killer held off while he was known to be in prison, and then started up again when he was released. But if he doesn't know that he's been arrested again, he could continue his spree.

I don't know what to think about the fire, the watch, and Sunny's dad, but it's not good, whatever it is.

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Irlandesa

Irlandesa

I didn't really enjoy this episode. 

My favorite part was the very short case Will and Faith investigated.  It reminded me of one of my favorite Law & Order episodes (S7.E10 Legacy) so I called what really happened pretty early on. 

The rest had them spinning their wheels on the John case which I hope they wrap up next week.  (And I hope it's different than the books.)

But the worst part was the scene between Marion and Will in the kitchen which seemed to go on forever. I'm still not feeling them and the shirt she was wearing was horrible on my TV.  I thought stripes were a no no. 

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mrsbagnet

mrsbagnet

7 hours ago, possibilities said:

I miss Cricket. I trusted her and liked her more than I trust or like Marion. Marion seems too good, by which I mean, too one dimensional and obvious, like she's been curated. It feels fake, and thus boring

I literally yelled "I want Cricket!" during the scene with Marion in the morgue. I looked away from the screen for much of the Will/Marion scene in the kitchen. It's not working. It does feel fake. Gina Rodriguez is not pulling off the charm the way that Susan Kalechi Watson did.

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Badsamaritan

Badsamaritan

Heavy sigh.

There were some parts I really liked in this episode but mostly I hated it.

Sorry y'all, rant incoming......

Fuckin Angie, man. The show takes her to the extreme and then has her act like a bitch because nobody trusts her anymore. Girl, please. 7 BODIES. SEVEN. BODIES. On your fucking head. And they got her running around fucking shit up again, and we're supposed to what? Sympathize with this delusional, self-involved heifer? I think the fuck not. Plus all her drama is taking screen time away from Faith and Faith and Will's partnership. I never liked Angie enough to be down with that, ever. There's enough story material with regular cases, Amanda and Sunny, and now Rafael in the mix, we did not need this extra serial killer storyline for Angie. Really, show? ANOTHER serial killer for the special snowflake? I'm getting ready to root for the murderer. 😒

And, who doesn't know the brother-in-law is the real killer? Like, that was so fucking clunky. As soon as he mentioned he knew the first dead girl, and that John has a credit score at all, it had to be someone close to him. 

While I will always stan for Cricket, I don't hate Marion like others do. She's honest about her attraction, she doesn't appear to be playing any games with Will, and I think what we're seeing is the real her. It doesn't look like she's weighed down by any childhood trauma so her more positive personality could make her look suspect, but I don't think she is. Among our main cast of characters, she's really the only one who appears to be just a normal person. I actually kinda like that. Not every character has to have some kind of damage driving them. 🤷🏽‍♀️

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peachmangosteen

peachmangosteen

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I fast forwarded some of the Marion/Will scenes. I really didn't wanna fast forward in this show but I just had no desire to watch it and if I skip it hopefully it won't affect my love for the show.

This episode did make me wonder about the speculation someone here had that Marion would turn out to be a Big Bad of sorts. She's just doing too much so I could see it all being a scheme to get at Will in some way. I hate the idea but I guess I prefer it to them actually going forward with a Will/Marion romance and her being a continuing regular character.

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marceline

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Angie hasn't learned a single damn thing.

Her holier-than-thou response to being second-guessed is ludicrous. Gurl, you must be kidding. Please take all the seats. She's an addict who knows what it means to have to check in with a sponsor. She should approach this the same way. Besides, how many more times is Angie going to activate a serial killer because she can't mind her own business? I guess that's why I found it so satisfying when that jailhouse cannibal stabbed her in her hand and tried to bite her. I thought, "That's what you get, you freak magnet."

I absolutely did not need that extended date scene between Will and Marion. That said, she doesn't really bother me and I'm happy to see Will loosen up and enjoy himself. Especially with someone he can speak Spanish with since we know how much that means to him.

The case with the burned body was kind of interesting even if it was a little shoehorned in. 

It's pretty obvious to me that the brother in law is the killer.

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AnimeMania

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Oh my, they don't have any security cameras in the police parking garage or building. Somebody can just go to the garage and murder people, somebody can just get in an elevator and write death threats. What if it had been a van full of people with assault rifles, would the people have no heads up before they entered.

I didn't see any type of bandage on Angie's hand after being spear-minted.

Was the dead woman at the house someone we should have recognized, like the parole officer?

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fishcakes

fishcakes

Yeah, this episode was a dud.

Will and Marion: nope. Also gaaah.

I'm also pretty done with Sunny. I know we were giving her some slack because she's a kid and recently traumatized, but that's not what I'm seeing with her anymore. She's rude and ungrateful, and those seem like burned-in character traits with her, not just stress reactions. As much as I would have liked for Amanda to have the chance to be the mom that she didn't get to be with Will, Sunny isn't the one.

The guy who killed his best friend so he could have the wife sure folded quickly lol. Will: "okay, so ..." Guy: "I DID IT! I CONFESS." That murder was a clunky set-up for the Rafael story and Will seeing the watch, and I'm hoping it's all a fakeout because I like Rafael and Will needs to have a disreputable friend who can help him out with a case every once in a while.

Also inept is the John story, and I agree that the real serial rapist/killer/freak is obvious. But I don't even think he's a real serial killer because they generally don't wait 20 years between murders. He's just an identity thief who's too dumb to figure out a less grisly way to pin it all on John.

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MerBearHou

MerBearHou

10 hours ago, Snazzy Daisy said:

This is NOT my favorite episode.

Will Trent and Marion Alba... 😣

That's two in a row that we did not enjoy.  Come on, writers -- get back on track please.  Last week didn't have enough Will or Betty and the Faith background flashbacks didn't do it for us.  Love Faith, Amanda, Will, Ormewood but these last two episodes have been big misses for us (and we are Will Trent faithfuls).

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ShellsandCheese

ShellsandCheese

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Faith and Ormewood have way more chemistry than Will and Marion. Do they not screen test anymore? Was Gina R. added to the show simply because her other show got cancelled and she’s liked by the brass at ABC? I am not knocking her or her talents but there is no romantic chemistry between her and Will. None. 

Cricket is missed! Susan did an amazing job with her two episode cameo and really made an impression. And her and Roman/Will had some crackling chemistry. 

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tennisgurl

tennisgurl

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I miss Cricket. I generally like Gina R but she and Will have zero chemistry and their romance just seems kind of pointless. We have so much going on, we hardly need to give Will this boring love interest who doesn't even seem all that interested in Will and who he seems to have no connection with. 

I was not super into this episode, which makes me sad because overall I have liked this season a lot, especially the character stuff. Faith and Will's little case was at least interesting, but WOW has Angie not learned her lesson. She is right back to her cowgirl cop antics within the week, she really has a lot of nerve to be all "are you going to keep looking over my shoulder" when she is lucky to have a job after all the crap she pulled. Even now that she's sure that she was wrong about the guy being the killer, the only lesson she will probably learn is that she was the only one who could save this guy from going back to jail and catch the real killer and will still be the big hero, and now she even gets a brand new psycho stalker for her to defeat. 

I swear, I do not want to just complain about Angie this whole season, I have generally liked her even with her many fuck ups, but her self righteousness this season, even after her fuck up got tons of people, including the girl she so wanted to save, killed, is driving me nuts. 

Ormewood is noticeably less fun when he's paired with Angie, I miss his chemistry with Faith, as much as I love Will and Faith solving crimes together. 

I'm sad that the parole lady was killed, that sick burn when Angie was being all self important was awesome. 

Its also so obvious that its the brother in law, the second I saw his twitchy ass I knew it was him. 

Hardly any Betty, booo. 

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DEL901

DEL901

1 hour ago, tennisgurl said:

Another week without Betty, booo. 

She had another cameo in the kitchen scene when Will was with the ADA.  I was hoping Betty wouldn’t like her which would concern Will.

And I think I was the first to suggest the ADA was a big bad.  Now another possibility comes to mind…maybe she is the one to help him be ready for true love so they can introduce Sara.  

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marceline

marceline

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6 hours ago, Jodithgrace said:

Not to mention that Sunny almost burned Amanda’s house down by throwing a glass of water on that burning fry pan. Luckily Amanda got there first and slammed the lid on it.

Just to be clear, Sunny did not throw the water on the fire. She wanted to but like you said Amanda got there first.

I’m a former burn patient who made that mistake when I was just a few years older than her. I threw water on an oil/wax fire and the resulting flash damn near removed my eyebrows.

As soon as I saw Sunny get that water, I wanted to climb through the screen and knock the glass out of her hand so I was very relieved to see that she didn’t get the chance to pour it on the fire.

 

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peachmangosteen

peachmangosteen

1 hour ago, ShellsandCheese said:

Was Gina R. added to the show simply because her other show got cancelled and she’s liked by the brass at ABC?

I'm thinking that might be it. She doesn't fit in at all.

14 minutes ago, DEL901 said:

Now another possibility comes to mind…maybe she is the one to help him be ready for true love so they can introduce Sara.  

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SharonH58

SharonH58

5 hours ago, CrazyTrain said:

 

When she touched his scar, I told my husband that she would never understand his past. I really hope they don't ruin my favorite show.

That was over the top for me.  You don't put your hands on someone like that.  How would she feel?  And she's so unprofessional, and off.  There's just something off with her.  I had to FF thru their scenes.  🤢

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kaygeeret

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I really like Gina R. and have watched her other series with pleasure, but I agree there is something 'off' with the entire character.

Her initial scenes with actively going after Will were so off to me that I actually have believed they are setting her up to be some sort of big villain this season.  Now it seems maybe not?  The entire character and storyline seem to throw the premise of the show way off. 

And Angie - wow- now she is an entitled brat blah blah ENOUGH already.

Not enough Will, Faith, Amanda and good writing and plotting.

Straighten things up show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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DearEvette

DearEvette

It feels like the C-Team wrote this episode.

Where is my crackling dialogue? My little bursts of humor? My character chemistry?

Ok, Carver was the only character that made me perk up a little bit.   'Spearminted' indeed. LOL. He was like a more demented version of the cannibal character Tim Meadows played on Brooklyn 99. Even down to lunging at Jake trying to eat his face like Carver did with Angie.

11 hours ago, marceline said:

I guess that's why I found it so satisfying when that jailhouse cannibal stabbed her in her hand and tried to bite her. I thought, "That's what you get, you freak magnet."

LOL.  And Yes!

I admit that my general dislike of Gina R definitely colors how I see her on this show, but even without it, her character has not been well integrated into the show.  Or rather, not organically.  She is plopped in for love interest only.  So they are shoe-horning her and it just isn't interesting.  And that scene in the kitchen was pretty cringey, imo.

9 hours ago, fishcakes said:

I'm also pretty done with Sunny. I know we were giving her some slack because she's a kid and recently traumatized, but that's not what I'm seeing with her anymore. She's rude and ungrateful, and those seem like burned-in character traits with her, not just stress reactions.

I was done with Sunny the minute she told Amanda to chill.  Nope.  I am not here for that level of disrespect no matter how stressed she is.  Amanda is right when she said it was a matter of respect.

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agathapenny

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12 hours ago, Badsamaritan said:

Fuckin Angie, man. The show takes her to the extreme and then has her act like a bitch because nobody trusts her anymore. Girl, please. 7 BODIES. SEVEN. BODIES. On your fucking head. 

Yeah, I can't believe she's surprised that she's under more scrutiny right now.

12 hours ago, Badsamaritan said:

And, who doesn't know the brother-in-law is the real killer? Like, that was so fucking clunky. As soon as he mentioned he knew the first dead girl, and that John has a credit score at all, it had to be someone close to him. 

I also pegged the brother-in-law, but then John is just so darn weird sometimes that I thought maybe it was a misdirect and maybe John was the killer after all.

Angie very much frustrates me sometimes, but I don't hate her (though I don't want her with Will ever again) as a character, so I actually liked that she came to Will at the end and he's going to help her.

12 hours ago, Badsamaritan said:

While I will always stan for Cricket, I don't hate Marion like others do. She's honest about her attraction, she doesn't appear to be playing any games with Will, and I think what we're seeing is the real her. It doesn't look like she's weighed down by any childhood trauma so her more positive personality could make her look suspect, but I don't think she is. Among our main cast of characters, she's really the only one who appears to be just a normal person. I actually kinda like that. Not every character has to have some kind of damage driving them. 🤷🏽‍♀️

I, too, loved Cricket, but really she was in one episode (sadly) and it's time to move on, lol, and I don't mind Marion. I thought she and Will had good chemistry and a relatively normal relationship could do him some good. I don't for a minute think she's a particularly long-term love interest, but I have no issues with her for now. I think the actress is charming.

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agathapenny

agathapenny

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Oh, and I wonder where they're going with the Rafael thing. The implication obviously was that the guy whose house burned in the fire had borrowed the money from Raphael to purchase it, and since the asset is now gone, the only thing he had to at least start to pay Raphael what he owed him was to give him the heirloom watch. One has to wonder what physical condition he's now in, as well....

It was also mentioned in passing that there have been a series of fires. That's going to rear it's ugly head again in the future.

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Irlandesa

Irlandesa

8 hours ago, ShellsandCheese said:

Was Gina R. added to the show simply because her other show got cancelled and she’s liked by the brass at ABC?

Not just liked but because she has a development deal with them. I feel like I've seen things like this happen.  A star signs a development deal with a studio/network and they get placed on an existing show until something new can be developed specifically for them or they get placed on an existing show if the show they starred in goes bust.

I guess the most we can hope for for those of us who do not like her is that they're developing something new for Gina next season.  Or the deal runs out.

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truthaboutluv

truthaboutluv

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14 hours ago, Badsamaritan said:

And, who doesn't know the brother-in-law is the real killer? Like, that was so fucking clunky. As soon as he mentioned he knew the first dead girl, and that John has a credit score at all, it had to be someone close to him. 

This has been my only issue with this series, as much as I love it. Granted, it's probably because I read a lot of mystery/thrillers (it's my favorite genre), and so it takes something really twisty to throw me off. I don't think there's been an episode of this series where I didn't figure out the guilty person fairly quickly.

I knew Crystal was the serial killer last season almost immediately. And so yeah, the second the brother-in-law mentioned testifying against John, I knew he was probably the killer.

That became clearer once John said he learned about the credit score trying to buy a gift for his sister and visited her to ask about it. Which means the brother-in-law probably knows John knows about the score and the PO Box and would look into it.

And that would explain his deciding to murder someone else to set John up to send him back to jail, thereby stopping him from figuring out the brother-in-law was the one who murdered the woman all those years ago.

 

10 hours ago, Jodithgrace said:

I also didn’t see even a bandaid on Angie’s hand after being “spear-minted.”(good one!)

Hmm, maybe I'm seeing things but I swear I remember seeing a small white bandaid over Angie's hand in the following scene. 

 

42 minutes ago, ShellsandCheese said:

Am I the only one who thinks the BIL is too obvious of a suspect? Maybe it’s the sister? She gets mad at her husband because he flirts with and is a dirty-old-man to young women and with her misplaced anger, kills the women instead. That would be interesting at least. 

Yeah, unfortunately, like I mentioned in my previous comment, this show tends to do a lot of the "obvious" suspect. So, I'd be very surprised if it isn't the brother-in-law. The sister would be interesting except we already had the victim's friend mentioning being able to the ID the guy the friend was afraid of. And said guy is clearly the one who's going to kill her to stop her from going to the station to ID him. 

Finally, I guess I have a massively unpopular opinion where I didn't care that much about Cricket. Don't get me wrong, sure, she and Will had some cute exchanges and if anything ever surprised me on this show, it was her death. I definitely didn't see that coming.

But I didn't realize there was this swell of enduring love for her character and the potential of her and Will. Again, did they have some cute chemistry, sure. But nothing I was bowled over to still miss her today.

Which isn't to say that I love him and and Marion but I also don't hate it as much others. The issue I had with this episode is that the relationship seemed to suddenly move unnaturally fast and that's what for me, made it feel forced.

Because I thought they played well off each other in their first "meet cute" and the subsequent scenes where it was just enough but nothing too over the top. This episode felt like the writers just said, "fuck it" and decide to jump three or four episodes ahead in the development of the romance. 

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marceline

marceline

11 hours ago, truthaboutluv said:

Finally, I guess I have a massively unpopular opinion where I didn't care that much about Cricket. Don't get me wrong, sure, she and Will had some cute exchanges and if anything ever surprised me on this show, it was her death. I definitely didn't see that coming.

But I didn't realize there was this swell of enduring love for her character and the potential of her and Will. Again, did they have some cute chemistry, sure. But nothing I was bowled over to still miss her today.

Agreed. I love Susan Kalech Watson but I think Cricket's purpose was that her death traumatized Will enough to start flashing back to the death of his foster mom. Also, I think Cricket is so popular because we didn't have to get used to her. If she'd stuck around there would've been conflicts and some people would decide they didn't like her.

The irony of comparing Marion with Cricket is that both women were the pursuers in their interactions with Will but Marion's interest is seen with suspicion and I think that's mainly because we've seen more of her. The truth is any woman with an interest in Will is going to have to make the first move. He's just that repressed.

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cardigirl

cardigirl

I did not enjoy this episode as much as the previous ones this season. Not sure why. Too dark and dismal for me, I guess, not enough Betty. It's hard to have sympathy for John, as he comes off as creepy, and I see why Angie was resistant to trying to help him, given what happened the last time she tried to "help" someone. But now that she's onboard, I hope she's able to get the bad guy. 

Count me as one of those who do not see Will and Marion as long term. I could be wrong, but I think she's here just to mix up the equations all around.

Can anyone tell my why Angie wears those little scarves around her neck? It's not a great fashion statement that I can see, so why?

 

 

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peachmangosteen

peachmangosteen

1 hour ago, cardigirl said:

Can anyone tell my why Angie wears those little scarves around her neck? It's not a great fashion statement that I can see, so why?

Why do I feel like she was strangled or something once and so maybe it's like a trauma thing. I might be making that up though.

I think the biggest mistake they made with Marion is making her a regular. If she's just there for Will to fuck someone then she doesn't need to be a regular. I also wish they would have just cast another actress lol.

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DearEvette

DearEvette

1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:

I think the biggest mistake they made with Marion is making her a regular. If she's just there for Will to fuck someone then she doesn't need to be a regular. I also wish they would have just cast another actress lol.

Right.  I wish that if they wanted to give Will a new love interest than just let him meet some woman at the vet so they could bond over dogs and go from there. Just let her be the love interest.  Making Marion the DA who suddenly is everywhere just doesn't work.  They force her into work situations to give her something to do.  Also, frankly, she doesn't have any personality.

Regarding Cricket, I liked SKW's glee with which she played the character.  Cricket was a firecracker! I miss  'the what could have been' with her because I would have liked to see how her big personality played against Will's reserve.  And bonus they actually had crackling chemistry.  Which given how brief her time was, had to be something since I still remember it.

But even if she and Will had never had a romance, I still would have liked her character to stick around and pop in with her brand of gung-ho.  Just another interesting personality kinda like what we have with Franklin and Pete.

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possibilities

possibilities

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53 minutes ago, DearEvette said:

Regarding Cricket, I liked SKW's glee with which she played the character.  Cricket was a firecracker! I miss  'the what could have been' with her because I would have liked to see how her big personality played against Will's reserve.  And bonus they actually had crackling chemistry.  Which given how brief her time was, had to be something since I still remember it.

But even if she and Will had never had a romance, I still would have liked her character to stick around and pop in with her brand of gung-ho.  Just another interesting personality kinda like what we have with Franklin and Pete.

Yes, this! Cricket was exciting. And I trusted her because she was flat out fantastic with the woman who was trapped in her bomb-rigged car, and she was somehow simultaneously fun. She and Will worked well together and he wasn't afraid of his feelings for her.

I actually liked Marion okay until this episode, when she suddenly just seemed manipulative and simultaneously boring. I like Gina Rodriguez, so it's not the actress. It's the character. She is just too bland. It was better when they were working together on that case where they were baiting the witness and talking about their pets. But I just... I dunno.

Since then, it's gotten awful. Will is embarrassed by his feelings for her-- why? He wasn't embarrassed by Cricket. And he is doing stuff for Marion, but it feels too much like how he was always trying to take care of Angie. She reciprocates a little more than Angie did, like by making that phone call to warn him this week, but mostly he's doing his caretaker thing. It feels like a backwards step.

I don't think it's inherent in consummation that the relationship gets boring. I don't think that seeing a lot of a character makes them boring. I just think a boring character is boring.

 

I think we don't trust her because Will doesn't trust her. Also, in their first meeting, she was rude to him (before she knew he was who she was meeting). 

I don't get Big Bad vibes from her. I just feel increasingly unhappy with the way the relationship is playing out.

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Sarah 103

Sarah 103

On 2/12/2025 at 11:37 AM, fishcakes said:

That murder was a clunky set-up for the Rafael story and Will seeing the watch, and I'm hoping it's all a fakeout because I like Rafael and Will needs to have a disreputable friend who can help him out with a case every once in a while.

YES! How did I not see this before? The writers are ignoring a crucial trope/archetype that every investigator (private or official law enforcement) needs to have. The underworld informant goes way back. 

21 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

Not just liked but because she has a development deal with them. I feel like I've seen things like this happen.  A star signs a development deal with a studio/network and they get placed on an existing show until something new can be developed specifically for them or they get placed on an existing show if the show they starred in goes bust.

This is a new/updated version of something that used to be called pay or play contracts back in the network era. Someone was signed and the network had to pay whether or not the person was cast in a series. This was how Robert Reed was cast in Brady Bunch. They either had to cast him in something or pay him even if he wasn't working on a series and Brady Bunch was the best option for the network to resolve the issue. 

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peeayebee

peeayebee

On 2/11/2025 at 10:18 PM, possibilities said:

I don't know what to think about the fire, the watch, and Sunny's dad, but it's not good, whatever it is.

I'm a little confused. Let's see... The burnt man's best friend killed him years (?) ago so he could be with his wife. He hid the guy under the floor boards of the business the guy owned. The wife sold it to some other guy who didn't have the money for it but was able to buy it anyway. Looks like he got the money from Rafael, who took the vintage watch from him for... some reason. Who burnt down the business? What kind of business was it? What interest did Rafael have in it? Why take the watch?

 

On 2/12/2025 at 6:27 AM, dleighg said:

she seems very manipulative. She knows exactly what she's doing and pretending to be naive.

I haven't really been too anti-Marion til this ep. I just feel there's something wrong with her, something she's hiding. Either that or the writing is really bad. I choose to believe that she's not what she seems to be. I hope that's the case.

I could barely tolerate the kitchen scene as well as the previous scenes betw the two of them. 

On 2/12/2025 at 8:37 AM, AnimeMania said:

Oh my, they don't have any security cameras in the police parking garage or building.

Geez, I didn't realize that was the police parking garage. I know that Will asked her to come to the police station to look at mugshots, so I should have realized where she was.

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I didn't see any type of bandage on Angie's hand after being spear-minted.

Like others, I give you kudos for the excellent pun.

BTW, Carver and the guy playing him were terrific. What a creepy dude, but a memorable character. 

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Was the dead woman at the house someone we should have recognized, like the parole officer?

I didn't recognize her. I really thought from the previous ep that there was something off about her, but I guess I was wrong.

And, yes, I too think the brother-in-law is the killer. 

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Irlandesa

Irlandesa

12 hours ago, marceline said:

Agreed. I love Susan Kalech Watson but I think Cricket's purpose was that her death traumatized Will enough to start flashing back to the death of his foster mom. Also, I think Cricket is so popular because we didn't have to get used to her. If she'd stuck around there would've been conflicts and some people would decide they didn't like her.

The irony of comparing Marion with Cricket is that both women were the pursuers in their interactions with Will but Marion's interest is seen with suspicion and I think that's mainly because we've seen more of her. The truth is any woman with an interest in Will is going to have to make the first move. He's just that repressed.

Maybe we wouldn't have liked her eventually but for me, I think it's important not to underestimate the actress.  Susan Kelechi Watson is a better actress than Gina to the point that I think Marion would be a better character if she were playing the role.  She did more that was enjoyable in her short term role.  Her potential was exciting. It felt cut short.

I'm not a Will and Angie fan so I'm open to Will having a good relationship. So far, Marion isn't it.

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peeayebee

peeayebee

9 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

Maybe we wouldn't have liked her eventually but for me, I think it's important not to underestimate the actress.  Susan Kelechi Watson is a better actress than Gina to the point that I think Marion would be a better character if she were playing the role.  She did more that was enjoyable in her short term role.  Her potential was exciting. It felt cut short.

Completely agree. It makes such a big difference who the actor is. Sometimes it's just the natural charisma an actor has. SKW is one of those. I was very disappointed when Cricket was killed. Of course we were meant to be saddened by it and feel Will's sadness, too, so she needed to be very likable.

I'm still hoping that Marion is going to turn out to be a bad guy in some way, rather than just a cutesy attraction for Will.

 

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tennisgurl

tennisgurl

2 hours ago, LisaM said:

Isn't it way too obvious that the brother-in-law is the killer? I'm expecting a twist of some sort. 

 

It would be wild if, instead of the obvious twist of it being the brother-in-law, it was the sister. 

Marian isn't awful or anything, but she feels like the kind of character you would see in a teen romance show instead of a character driven cop show, a sort of bland inoffensively attractive and pleasant love interest who exists to keep the main couple apart for awhile longer for the sake of drama without much other real purpose in the story. I really think that Will and Angie should be apart for better reasons than temporary love interests though, so who knows. 

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peeayebee

peeayebee

43 minutes ago, tennisgurl said:

It would be wild if, instead of the obvious twist of it being the brother-in-law, it was the sister.

I considered the sister, too, but that seems too weird. Do we know if she's his biological sister? And wasn't the first victim raped? Maybe there was no semen, so it could have been a woman. Oh, and in the opening scene, when the door was kicked in it sure looked like a man.

When the nurse turned around, she said something like, "It's you." I assume it's the guy who had the PO box next to the victim.

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