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S14.E6: Venom in the Viper Room

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Garcelle made out with Johnny Depp and Luann had sex with a man who dresses up like a pirate who kinda looked like Johnny Depp. Similar!

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I’m high as a grocery bill and still can’t muster up any empathy for fucking Dorit. This season revolving around her is like my worst nightmare.

Steph J
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Show us these memes, Kyle. Could not roll my eyes any harder at Erika's sob story about escaping with whatever she could carry in the middle of the night. Okay, girl. Find freedom. Personall

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This episode can’t be over fast enough for me. Too much Boz, who’s boring, and Dorito who is definitely getting divorced from PK and I don’t blame him.

And I stand with Sutton for saying Dorito is mad at her life and taking it out on others. 
Erika is an icon? Uh, no. Can we have more of Jennifer? 

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Show us these memes, Kyle.

Could not roll my eyes any harder at Erika's sob story about escaping with whatever she could carry in the middle of the night. Okay, girl. Find freedom.

Personally, if I were going through a divorce, I would want the advice and support of someone who won as hard at divorce as Sutton did, but if Dorit thinks this is a good use of her time, I guess that's her prerogative.

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Baltimore Betty

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Erika is dressed like Edward Scissor hands, she gets on stage and walks around mumbling something, gets off the stage and people cheer...did I miss something?

Boz continues to have the worst hairstyles, my dear mother would have said her hair style is like 10 pounds of hammered horse shit.

Dorit is quickly losing her mind.

Sutton is reacting oddly for someone who wants to help.

Kesha? Was she just dying to go to that goat rodeo at the Viper Room? She didn't even get a seat at the table with Kyle.

 

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Cosmocrush

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2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Sutton is reacting oddly for someone who wants to help.

 

I've long thought Sutton has a bully in her and Dorito is really bringing it out in her.  So much for Sutton's Sorority Sisterhood.   Her hair looks good though.

I still can't get over a FOUR HOUR therapy session.  Dorito must be exaggerating that.  I feel bad for the therapist.  

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princelina

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So I learned tonight that Kyle spends her free time befriending younger musicians who need a shot of publicity on Instagram (lesbian storyline optional!) 😂

I don't know why they were all acting like what Sutton said about Dorit being mad at her own life was so horrible because it just wasn't.  I find myself on Team Dorit in the Kyle vs Dorit brawl, and Team Sutton on Dorit vs Sutton.

I'm glad Boz's boyfriend waited for a camera crew to begin the most cliched relationship conversation ever with her 🙄

I loved Garcelle's beach kitchen.  I also really like Erika's cute little house with the little pool and cabana - much more my style if I were single than a giant mansion to live in alone except for the flamboyant assistant mincing through the closet.  But she does need help decorating since she has no fun or whimsy.  I have a feeling I could do better in Target and thrift stores than Cher's decorator will do 

Lastly - it's hard to picture Garcelle making out with a young Johnny Depp since I feel like she must be more than a head taller than him! 😃

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3 hours ago, WaltersHair said:

Yes, getting a decorator should rate extra high on Erika's needs list.

I'm trying to figure out why this "amazing designer to the stars" is taking a job in a rented guesthouse/poolhouse.  Maybe it was to get on TV and sell his book?  Maybe the owner is a client?  Whatever the reason, I agree she needs some help.

When Erika said she slithered escaped in the night with what she could carry, I pictured her backing up a uHaul (Sutton style, lol) and getting whatever the cleaning lady could lift.   Puhlease Erika, you are not only not a victim but you didn't seem to have any problem with spending the real victims money on your dumb show. 

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I am convinced that Dorit was told this season was her last chance on the show unless she agreed to curse loudly every 10 minutes. Because unless this show is putting food in the mouth of those cute little children of hers, there’s no reason to spend every episode screeching at the top of your lungs and grasping at every little excuse to go off on people. 

I never knew a meme could cause so much drama. 

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Disappearing  Dorit, she's  always  been thin, but seeing her black hose all baggy  and wrinkly on her knees, did not scream fashion  girly to me.. Has someone  suggested  she turn up the bitchiness,  because  she's  looking  for a fight every  time they get together. Their children  aren't  stupid, they know something  is up, when they visit  PK in his place.. I liked Boz, but if she's  Dorits side kick, I'm really  not interested. 

Jennifer Tilly, I just love her, the song won't  win anything  for the lyrics. EJs awards etc are always  in such tiny places/clubs, and her voice  sounded horrible. World renowned decorater decides to go back to his roots and do tiny houses for TV time, come on. 

This episode  was a nothing burger,  Kyle telling  everyone  what hot night clubs she's been seen at, and telling  us we can talk about her friend  the musician. Why would we? Zzzzzz

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55 minutes ago, princelina said:

I don't know why they were all acting like what Sutton said about Dorit being mad at her own life was so horrible because it just wasn't.  I find myself on Team Dorit in the Kyle vs Dorit brawl, and Team Sutton on Dorit vs Sutton.

Ditto. Sutton can be snarky and insensitive (who isn't), but I don't see her as a bully at all. She's actually one of the few longtime cast members who isn't a bully. The Girardi stuff was confusing at best and disgustingly shady at worst. So what if Sutton had questions? Was she supposed to turn a blind eye to it all? Kyle could be really nasty to Sutton, hardly just sitting there brokenhearted and being attacked. I do think Dorit is one of the nicer women who's a longterm cast member, but she can be hard on both Sutton and Garcelle and then acts like she has no idea why either would have an issue with her. 

I think Dorit genuinely has problems in her marriage and has genuinely had it with Kyle, but I also think she is trying hard to keep her Housewives check. We all know she likes an OTT lifestyle and isn't wealthy like most of the others. I don't see any other reason why she would bother trying to mend a friendship with Kyle. The way Kyle loses her temper and screams at her repeatedly over the years, enough is enough. I think she knows damn well she'd lose her shit if there was any texting going on between Dorit and Mauricio (no matter how innocent), and that's why she got triggered tonight. 

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24 minutes ago, dbell1 said:

I am convinced that Dorit was told this season was her last chance on the show unless she agreed to curse loudly every 10 minutes. Because unless this show is putting food in the mouth of those cute little children of hers, there’s no reason to spend every episode screeching at the top of your lungs and grasping at every little excuse to go off on people. 

The same time that Crystal and 8.5 were fired, there were rumors that she was getting demoted to friend unless she came forward with the separation storyline. This is the one of most desperate attempt to hang onto to a contract role that I’ve ever seen on this franchise.

Sure, Doorit, you were always being nice to Camille before you finally had enough. Like the time you called her a stupid c***. Or the time you had a hissy fit at getting a ball gag as a joke gift, even though you did something quite similar with Erika and the panties a year prior.

Boz’s only role is to even out the reunion couch seating chart. 

Kyle of all people, accusing Doorit of grasping for things to get mad about. LOL.

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I’m bummed about Boz. I had thought I’d like her—and I did, initially—but her weirdly myopic perspective on Dorit is not fun to watch. I thought she was savvy :/

Speaking of Dorit: Our season’s theme, “It’s apparently Dorit’s world, and we’re all forced to live in it,” is meh. And I didn’t like that she was revealing stuff from her joint therapy session with PK. 

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sheetmoss

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4 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

I'm trying to figure out why this "amazing designer to the stars" is taking a job in a rented guesthouse/poolhouse.  Maybe it was to get on TV and sell his book?  Maybe the owner is a client?  Whatever the reason, I agree she needs some help.

When Erika said she slithered escaped in the night with what she could carry, I pictured her backing up a uHaul (Sutton style, lol) and getting whatever the cleaning lady could lift.   Puhlease Erika, you are not only not a victim but you didn't seem to have any problem with spending the real victims money on your dumb show. 

Martyn Lawrence Bullard is the real deal -  he used to be on a past Bravo reality series, Million Dollar Decorators

https://www.bravotv.com/people/martyn-lawrence-bullard

 

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5 hours ago, dmeets said:

Kyle of all people, accusing Doorit of grasping for things to get mad about. LOL.

Which is entirely why I'm riding for Dorit. Watching Kyle attempt to justify that it's ok to communicate with PK since Dorit never explicitly told her not to wasn't fooling anyone. Kyle always get irrationally angry when she's caught. I loved Dorit calling out the forehead vein.

Garcelle's story on Oliver made me sad. Primarily because I still get a shady vibe from him. 

I'm not mad at Boz for her initial read on the ladies. She's reacting to what they're giving her.

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11 hours ago, FlyingEgret said:

OMG - a 4-hour therapy session with Dorit???

Bet they couldn't hear the 1-hour alarm chime over her squawking...

 

10 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

I want to know how that therapy session lasted FOUR hours, when Dorit stated that PK left abruptly. Did she alone bend the ear of the professional for 3 1/2 hours? Whoever it was…they earned their money. 

I never thought I would ever feel sympathy for PK but four hours of Dorit squawking in an enclosed space seems like punishment enough for even Erika.

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Baltimore Betty

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8 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

I still can't get over a FOUR HOUR therapy session.  Dorito must be exaggerating that.  I feel bad for the therapist.  

I take her "4 hour session" with a grain of salt, it might have felt that long but with PK storming out it probably wasn't really even close to 4 hours.  Also, she never gave us the lead up to why PK shouted about wanting a divorce and storming out.

Boz would do better to look at Dorit's situation with a critical eye, she can still be a friend to Dorit but she should not drink the kool aid so fast.

1 hour ago, snarts said:

Garcelle's story on Oliver made me sad. Primarily because I still get a shady vibe from him. 

It is hard to look at a former addict without suspicion, I do believe he is doing well and is staying sober, thinking sober is another story, he may have some of those habits lingering but it seems like Garcelle can see when something isn't right with her son and acts accordingly, Garcelle has a low tolerance for bullshit, she did what Alanon tells you to do, detach with love.

I cannot wait to see what Erika's decorator does in her space, the man has a coffee table book so you know he's good, lol. She did speak about sneaking out in the dark of night with just a few pieces of furniture, makes me think she wasn't supposed to do that if she had to sneak.  So let's see if Martyn Lawrence Bullard can transform her space keeping within whatever her budget is.

I really do wonder if The Viper Room still has the same cache today it had back in the day where the rich and famous died on the sidewalk out in front...seems to me that by the time the HW's make to such a place means they let anyone in.

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I do believe he is doing well and is staying sober,

If he is staying sober then why did he have a glass of red wine in front of him at the dinner at Garcelle’s new beach house? It was my understanding that when an addict overcomes one substance they generally need to stay away from any mind altering substances lest they trade one addiction for another. I’m not dissing him. I’m glad he wisened up and now can be a better father to his child. Just cautious. I feel for her having to practice tough love. It’s as hard on the parent as it is for the child receiving it. 
 

21 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

So let's see if Martyn Lawrence Bullard can transform her space keeping within whatever her budget is.

Her budget? 😂 I watched his series on decorating and his taste is very expensive.  As are his fees. I’m wondering if he partially did this for the media exposure of being on telly again to hopefully whet the appetite of anyone who can reboot his original show. 

Erika’s place is small. Does she keep a lot of her belongings in storage? The clothes she has could probably fill that whole space! I also questioned his comment about doing the area by the pool in a Moroccan theme. More that he thought it could be the best area in the whole job that would make the best impression or impact (I’m having trouble getting my exact thought out). I’d want the living room, kitchen or bedroom to be the star of the home. 

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Dorit's daughter, Phoenix, in her tutu, so cute. (My spellcheck, every time: 'Doritos')

Garcelle's son not knowing who the pioneering black models were made me feel So old. He's got a unique look, loved his modeling photos. She makes handsome sons.  Loved her beach house even more! All the cool green & blue tones, so pretty. Everything was color coordinated with the house, from their outfits in the family portrait to the clothes they were wearing in the scene!

Boz's man in that toast.  "....and our business ventures.." Oof. Red flag. 

"Dorit likes to talk, and I like to listen"  (cue mean girls quote-thats why her hairs so bjg-its full of secrets! Lol)  No one likes to listen That much. All these seasons later, and Dorit's accent still doesn't sound authentic. She pauses so much, like she's sounding out the words in her head, quickly, before she says them. And its this odd punctuation of certain syllables. So weird. 

 

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ZettaK

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I don't think that Dorit asked Kyle not to text with PK. She asked in this episode if Kyle had some information that he might have disclosed in his texts because he doesn't tell her anything. Kyle said he didn't (which was to be expected), and that she wouldn't text with him anymore, even if it were memes and jokes only, because Dorit didn't like it. But Dorit who is ready for a fight with almost everybody was angry because Kyle was raising her voice according to her. It seems this is going to escalate according to the previews. 

Erika has a HUGE nerve to pretend she is a singer/performer, and drop a new single. She has no voice, and zero talent.  

59 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I take her "4 hour session" with a grain of salt, it might have felt that long but with PK storming out it probably wasn't really even close to 4 hours.  Also, she never gave us the lead up to why PK shouted about wanting a divorce and storming out.

Boz would do better to look at Dorit's situation with a critical eye, she can still be a friend to Dorit but she should not drink the kool aid so fast.

It is hard to look at a former addict without suspicion, I do believe he is doing well and is staying sober, thinking sober is another story, he may have some of those habits lingering but it seems like Garcelle can see when something isn't right with her son and acts accordingly, Garcelle has a low tolerance for bullshit, she did what Alanon tells you to do, detach with love.

I cannot wait to see what Erika's decorator does in her space, the man has a coffee table book so you know he's good, lol. She did speak about sneaking out in the dark of night with just a few pieces of furniture, makes me think she wasn't supposed to do that if she had to sneak.  So let's see if Martyn Lawrence Bullard can transform her space keeping within whatever her budget is.

I really do wonder if The Viper Room still has the same cache today it had back in the day where the rich and famous died on the sidewalk out in front...seems to me that by the time the HW's make to such a place means they let anyone in.

 

 

The Viper Room doesn't have the same cache today. It's a different kind of venue. Johnny Depp sold his stake in 2004. It is currently being redeveloped into a mixed use high rise.

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Pi237

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11 hours ago, ButterQueen said:

Kyle’s lips…..good lord!!!

See also: Erickas interior designer. Ouch.  Everyone's starting to look like they're having an allergic reaction.  But I Love a remodel!! Can't wait for that reveal.  Sad that the only thing we can say we're excited about on a reality show is the furnishings in the rooms they're screeching at each other in. 

Erickas new single debut used up all the autotune in Cali.  She's awful. Looks great tho. 

Dorit is annoying but she's not reaching for things to be mad at you, Kyle. You've given her plenty.  No one I know would be ok with their friend texting their husband, especially during a separation. Kyle just can't resist the attention.  Oddly, Dorit seemed more bothered that Kyle wasn't giving her info about PK vs the fact she was communicating with him at all. 

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Baltimore Betty

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1 hour ago, Mindthinkr said:

If he is staying sober then why did he have a glass of red wine in front of him at the dinner at Garcelle’s new beach house?

I totally missed that! Yeah, that isn't good, an addict thinking he can drink is really no good.

43 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

Boz's man in that toast.  "....and our business ventures.."

I missed that too! Huge red flag indeed!

 

44 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

Garcelle's son not knowing who the pioneering black models were

Right there, I would have stopped the convo and urged him to at least Google those women, just like any job you need to find out information about who came before you or founded or was instrumental in whatever industry you are working in...history is important and maybe he could be inspired by those women. And yes, I felt old too.

 

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Cosmocrush

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5 hours ago, sheetmoss said:

Martyn Lawrence Bullard is the real deal -  he used to be on a past Bravo reality series, Million Dollar Decorators

https://www.bravotv.com/people/martyn-lawrence-bullard

 

Oh I believe he is the real deal; that's WHY I can't figure out why he agreed to do a rented poolhouse - maybe the TV exposure is worth it?  

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Pi237

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12 hours ago, Lady Lucy said:

I thought I'd like Boz. I was wrong.

I dont dislike her. She's a bit of a non entity, so far. I think she's made some good observations about how these women use their vulnerabilities to hurt each other and dont let anything, no matter how small, go by, without using it as ammo.  But again, these are observations. She's not really in the mix yet except for reacting to Dorit's endless soliloquies.  I was waiting for a bunch of 'wow, thats crazy.' Lol.  Scene with the boyfriend was boring.  lots of tell and no show with her so far.  

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SweetieDarling

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During the meme/text conversation, Dorit said that she and Kyle are barely talking (which I wasn't aware it was that bad). Imo, the only situation where it's ok for someone to communicate like that with an estranged friend's estranged spouse, would be if those communicating had a longer friendship or if they were communicating to help resolve either estrangement -neither of which is the case

Kyle would blow a casket if the roles were reversed

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Baltimore Betty

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31 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

During the meme/text conversation, Dorit said that she and Kyle are barely talking (which I wasn't aware it was that bad). Imo, the only situation where it's ok for someone to communicate like that with an estranged friend's estranged spouse, would be if those communicating had a longer friendship or if they were communicating to help resolve either estrangement -neither of which is the case

Kyle would blow a casket if the roles were reversed

Is PK texting with LVP?

I will never tire of Teresa and her malapropisms ala Norm Crosby!

 

 

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