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The Mexico trip continues with the ladies on a yacht excursion. Lisa updates the group on life with John and Henry. Britani takes offense at the lack of enthusiasm over her last announcement. Bronwyn reveals dark truths about her marriage and is surprised by Heather's grace and Lisa's lack of support. Mary arrives and the ladies come together for a beautiful VIDA dinner where Meredith learns her late-night antics have fueled Britani with fresh gossip. Angie and Bronwyn confront Lisa at dinner.

First aired on 12/18/2024.

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Marley

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This episode was a roller coaster on who I like but in the end it’s even more obvious Lisa is a fake all about herself. She can’t ever have any attention not on her or empathize with anyone. I don’t know how anyone could ever actually be friends with her because if they don’t bow down to her they are done.

I am liking Heather & Whitney.

I am liking Angie & Mary. Their friendship seems nice.

Britain should just shut up. She always tried to make it about herself. Bronwyn was actually sticking up for Lisa on the boat but fake Lisa can’t recognize that or doesn’t care. She basically said Bronwyn is lying.

Meredith seems fucked up on pills. It’s easy enough to get whatever you want in Mexico so maybe she had too much or hadn’t had a chance to go out & get what she needs yet. She is slurring her words like pretty bad at times.

Anyways entertaining episode.

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swankie

swankie

3 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

And I knew her marriage to Todd was not a good one. I see a divorce storyline for her probably next season. 

It's the Real Housewives curse.  If your husband wants to dump you he just encourages you to become a Real Housewife.  That way you'll be making your own money and won't go after his.  I was shocked when Bronwyn said he cheated on her.  My superficial self was thinking, "Who would want his ugly ass?!  No amount of money...."  

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dancingdreamer

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Bronwyn  was  terribly  vulnerable,  that's  a first. All marriages have times where things go haywire. I'm glad Heather  said what she did, there are times I don't  like her, and times I really  do.

Is Meredith  on Ozempic, when she was walking  to the boat, she looked much thinner, I think  she's fine as she is/ was.

Lisa, I've said this before,  she's  so brittle. I wouldn't  depend  on her friendship. The way she speaks to the others, she likes to sound so superior, but she's  starting  to look stressed and old.

I loved seeing  Mary and Angie hug it out, and Whitney's  hair looks much better short.,Britni just isn't  interesting,  far too needy.

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Chatty Cake

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Meredith and Lisa have come a long way from Lisa’s hot mic rant about her. Now they seem to share the same opinions and perhaps the same brain.

Whitney can shut up about Lisa not being able to afford a commercial for Vida. I haven’t seen any commercials for her Ali Baba jewelry.

Bronwyns really bringing it this season. I don’t care about her husband cheating. She hasn’t left him so it’s not that big of a deal to her either. Like she said, she won’t be carrying a canvas bag.

 

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65mickey

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8 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Bronwyn was on WWHL. Todd was there too. He didn’t cheat on her. He was just talking to someone too much and she was insecure about it. They are fine now. 
I think Robert Jr. is uncomfortable with cameras being on him. 

I don't buy this at all. She went from tearfully telling everyone on the boat  that she had dealt with infidelity with Todd. She said something about how he had never promised her to be faithful when they married or something like this but he  has changed. Now it's no big deal. He was just talking too much to someone else and of course she was at fault because she was just insecure. Yeah he has her convinced or at least saying that he was not cheating but she was insecure. Funny she doesn't come across as an insecure person.

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Straycat80

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2 hours ago, 65mickey said:

I don't buy this at all. She went from tearfully telling everyone on the boat  that she had dealt with infidelity with Todd. She said something about how he had never promised her to be faithful when they married or something like this but he  has changed. Now it's no big deal. He was just talking too much to someone else and of course she was at fault because she was just insecure. Yeah he has her convinced or at least saying that he was not cheating but she was insecure. Funny she doesn't come across as an insecure person.

Andy went in on Todd about viewers comments about the way he treats Bronwyn and the way be talks to her. They even showed some clips from the show of this. They talked about him not liking to be on camera. Bronwyn just laughed it off saying ‘that’s just the way he is’, like it was no big deal and they were fine and happy. And, yeah, she does not seem to be an insecure woman. 
So now I’m wondering if that big crying scene on the boat was fake and scripted by Bravo? 

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dancingdreamer

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18 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

Andy went in on Todd about viewers comments about the way he treats Bronwyn and the way be talks to her. They even showed some clips from the show of this. They talked about him not liking to be on camera. Bronwyn just laughed it off saying ‘that’s just the way he is’, like it was no big deal and they were fine and happy. And, yeah, she does not seem to be an insecure woman. 
So now I’m wondering if that big crying scene on the boat was fake and scripted by Bravo? 

I guess they go in on  Todd and the way he talks to Bronwyn on the reunion. He admits he could do better, I didn't  mind him, sitting  in the audience,  and taking his lumps. I'm not taking  sides, I think  he did have an affair. That's  jmho.

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rlc

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Bronwyn should have held something back in case she's asked back and/or if Todd permits her a second season. She is doing entirely too much. I cannot comprehend the number of people calling out Lisa for self-involvement in a world where Bronwyn exists. Seriously- when Britni was calling out Bronwyn for not reacting the right way to her latest 'big announcement' and Bronwyn immediately scolded Lisa? Her definitely genuine and completely unrehearsed soliloquy about alleged infidelity came out of nowhere. My take on Lisa and Meredith's reaction was that they were trying to help Bronwyn for when Todd watches this and inevitably freaks out. It was bizarre and random. I think there is truly something not right with this woman.

Britni will do anything to be relevant- including disclosing that Meredith is possibly depressed and may have an eating disorder. That was truly gross. 

How is Angie so nice and supportive with Mary, and so the way she is with everyone else? If the ladies on BH think Sutton is volatile, they should spend 5 minutes with Angie. 

I hope Mary got dessert. 

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politichick

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42 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

Andy went in on Todd about viewers comments about the way he treats Bronwyn and the way be talks to her. They even showed some clips from the show of this. They talked about him not liking to be on camera. Bronwyn just laughed it off saying ‘that’s just the way he is’, like it was no big deal and they were fine and happy. And, yeah, she does not seem to be an insecure woman. 
So now I’m wondering if that big crying scene on the boat was fake and scripted by Bravo? 

Bronwyn had just been attacked by a fucking dog. Did you see those bites? And she's drinking and has probably taken something for the bites, surrounded by women who are not really her friends. She also called him that night to tell him what she'd shared.

It's like so many people relish looking for faults and wishing their marriage would end and predicting its demise, in large part because of Todd's gruff manner and age/looks. She has said in interviews that being on the show has forced them to address some issues in their marriage and things are better. That's a good thing.

He sat in the WWHL audience with Joe Gorga, wearing his silly sweater and, as always, just being himself. Love that Mary's his favorite. Guess we'll get more answers from Todd at the reunion.

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Pi237

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Brawnwyn pulled out the classic 'sob story your way out of the doghouse' move.  She had just made a nasty dig at Britney, basically saying she just wanted to look like she wants to spend time with her daughter, but didn't really want to. Soon as everyone looked shocked by this, she started the 'you don't know what I go through!' distraction. Kyle of Beverly Hills and Bryn of New York just used this same move this week.  It somehow always works.  I hate how these women have to sob and have painful stories to share to be 'more relatable'. Just say your bitchy remarks and stand by them. Why the vulnerable act?!  Because it works, I guess.   She definitely said infidelity, and Whitney called him a cheater when they talked about Lisa & Meredith defending Todd and Brawnwyn didn't correct her.  She was nodding in agreement.   So if she's changing it now to, he just talked too much to another woman, that's some saving face move for the husbands reputation.  Either way, I Wish once someone would say -Ok Sorry but that's not what we're talking about. Stay on subject. 

Meredith looked hungover on the boat, no way she was crying about slut shaming lmao! 

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sauce62

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1 hour ago, politichick said:

Bronwyn had just been attacked by a fucking dog. Did you see those bites? And she's drinking and has probably taken something for the bites, surrounded by women who are not really her friends. She also called him that night to tell him what she'd shared.

It's like so many people relish looking for faults and wishing their marriage would end and predicting its demise, in large part because of Todd's gruff manner and age/looks. She has said in interviews that being on the show has forced them to address some issues in their marriage and things are better. That's a good thing.

He sat in the WWHL audience with Joe Gorga, wearing his silly sweater and, as always, just being himself. Love that Mary's his favorite. Guess we'll get more answers from Todd at the reunion.

I agree that Bronwyn was drinking on an empty stomach and had a lapse in judgment/sanity. What's with all the day drinking? Take away the booze and take away the drama I guess. Not a good look for anyone. None of them can handle their liquor and should not be encouraged.

And yes, Meredith looked incredibly impaired!

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Sweet-tea

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Meredith seems fucked up on pills. It’s easy enough to get whatever you want in Mexico so maybe she had too much or hadn’t had a chance to go out & get what she needs yet. She is slurring her words like pretty bad at times.

 

She’s been messed up for a few seasons. I’ll bet she was vomiting as Brittani said, either from too much booze and pills or she could’ve been withdrawing from pills. I've heard benzo withdrawal is horrible and makes you really sick. 

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Sweet-tea

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On 12/19/2024 at 9:55 AM, dancingdreamer said:

I guess they go in on  Todd and the way he talks to Bronwyn on the reunion. He admits he could do better, I didn't  mind him, sitting  in the audience,  and taking his lumps. I'm not taking  sides, I think  he did have an affair. That's  jmho.

Yep. I think there was more to it than flirtation. They probably talked about it prior to the show airing. Todd was probably ticked off that she talked about it, so they agreed to spin it. 

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KristenR

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21 hours ago, Tiggertoo said:

Bronwym is a master.  They went from Lisa talking about Henry, themn it was all Bronwyn, Bronwyn, Bronwyn.

I have no idea if what she said was actually true or not but the way she just took over from Brittani's attempt to grab the spotlight and put it on herself instead...I felt like at the end, she just needed to take a theatrical sip of her drink and say, "and that's how you do it."

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Starlight925

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I don't believe Todd only texted with this woman for one hot second.

I also don't believe that's the only woman.  

I believe that's the only one he was caught communicating with.

I think that's why Bronwyn puts on this fashion costume-y show, greeting him at the airport in costumes, keeping 6 dogs around her for comfort.  

Todd provides $4 million necklaces on a whim while she looks the other way at his dalliances.

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princelina

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On 12/18/2024 at 10:21 PM, Straycat80 said:

It took my disdain for Britani to start liking Bronwyn. I wish she had hit back at Britani instead of yelling at Lisa instead. And I knew her marriage to Todd was not a good one. I see a divorce storyline for her probably next season. 

I'm the opposite - I don't even care about Brittani, but she's kind of a sad sack; Bronwyn is an effing bitch to her, and all she did was mistake the furry heart coat for a costume - I mean, come on.  

On 12/18/2024 at 11:05 PM, Straycat80 said:

Bronwyn was on WWHL. Todd was there too. He didn’t cheat on her. He was just talking to someone too much and she was insecure about it. They are fine now. 

If that's true then she not only betrayed her husband on camera, but lied about it too.  She's an asshole.  And her boat outfit was hideous and stupid, including the rose around the neck and giant strawberry earrings.  I shudder to think how much money was wasted on that fugly crap.

On 12/19/2024 at 10:33 AM, Straycat80 said:

So now I’m wondering if that big crying scene on the boat was fake and scripted by Bravo? 

I'm going with fake and scripted by Bronwyn.  As a previous poster said - that's how you do it.  And if Mary's Todd's favorite then I don't have anything nice to say about him either.

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swankie

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20 hours ago, 65mickey said:

I don't buy this at all. She went from tearfully telling everyone on the boat  that she had dealt with infidelity with Todd. She said something about how he had never promised her to be faithful when they married or something like this but he  has changed. Now it's no big deal. He was just talking too much to someone else and of course she was at fault because she was just insecure. Yeah he has her convinced or at least saying that he was not cheating but she was insecure. Funny she doesn't come across as an insecure person.

I don't buy her explanation either.  It's pretty obvious to me Todd told Bronwyn to clear up that cheating allegation by saying he didn't cheat sexually....or else.  That's the vibe I get from him.  And him saying he didn't watch the episode is bs with a capital B in my opinion.  I bet she caught all kinds of hell from him for airing their dirty laundry like she did.  And the way he treats her in front of the cameras is probably 10 times worse when they are alone and she does or says something he doesn't like. 

I'm probably alone in this but I don't blame Lisa for not being Bronwyn's captain save-a-ho and defending her at all costs when she's obviously been a fake friend to Lisa all this time by not telling her all of the things she broke down about on the trip.  I believe Lisa when she says all of that was news to her because Bronwyn always led her to believe she was living the fairytale life.  A true friend would have shared the truth with their supposed best friend a long time ago.  And I don't recall Bronwyn coming to Lisa's defense when Whitney was trashing her left and right.  Bronwyn needs to stfu with all of the "you're not a good friend to me" bs.  She's no prize her damned self.  

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I've been partial to Todd most of the time up to now because I suspect a lot of his behavior is based on a mutual agreement before filming started that SHE would be different and not one of THOSE housewives, and he'd join her but peace out the moment any nonsense started up, because he's a serious person with a serious job and he'll take enough flak for being associated with it in the first place.  Pretty much every "disapproving" speech he's given has had big overtones of "this is precisely what we agreed we wouldn't take part in."  I have viewed it in that spirit and was surprised that so many people found it oppressive.  If he is fine with her flamboyant dress, home decor, dog pack, poses alongside her for her instagram in matching pajamas, took the sex chat at dinner without flinching I don't see him as paternalistic and condescending as others do. Of course I'm open to changing my mind, but his behavior isn't that far off from what mine would be if I saw my partner shrieking on national television, and I don't consider myself an abusive control freak. 

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Natalie68

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13 hours ago, Starlight925 said:

I don't believe Todd only texted with this woman for one hot second.

I also don't believe that's the only woman.  

I believe that's the only one he was caught communicating with.

I think that's why Bronwyn puts on this fashion costume-y show, greeting him at the airport in costumes, keeping 6 dogs around her for comfort.  

Todd provides $4 million necklaces on a whim while she looks the other way at his dalliances.

But seriously, who are these women?? Money or not, his personality has not shown to be sparkling, he is dumpy, looks older than he probably is, and just doesn't have the 'it' factor.  Some of the descriptors I wrote would not matter if he had a great sense of humor and was less 'stick up ass'.

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Dr Mama

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On 12/19/2024 at 10:07 PM, SemiCharmedLife said:

I wonder if Lisa is writing off the entire trip as a tax deduction for Vida Tequila advertising.  I see no other reason to have such obnoxious branding everywhere on a girlfriends trip.  I would love to know what else was in the swag bags besides the baseball cap some of the ladies were wearing.

My understanding is that the show actually pays for some/most of the travel costs of these trips, and I'm sure they get some parts of the trips comped or at special prices in exchange for promotional consideration. One of the housewives is selected as the "host" for the trip, but that woman isn't actually picking up all (or most) of the costs (at least most of the time.)

I've also read somewhere that while the show pays most/all of the costs for the women, the women are responsible for the costs of anyone they bring with them for hair, makeup, styling, etc.

I did wonder how that worked with the trip for Bronwyn and Todd's anniversary. Maybe the show still covered the costs for the women and the husbands--or maybe they cover some portion of it. They did have non-show guests at their party.

https://people.com/tv/andy-cohen-talks-firing-real-housewives/
 

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ladle1

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On 12/19/2024 at 10:33 AM, Straycat80 said:

And, yeah, she does not seem to be an insecure woman. 

Oh, I think Bronwyn seems incredibly insecure. The oversized personality, fashion, airport visits in the furry costumes, etc. seem like the mark of someone either incredibly secure or incredibly insecure with herself, and in my opinion Bronwyn seems like the latter. 

I get a very "LOVE ME, EVERYBODY!!" vibe from her. 

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ladle1

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On 12/20/2024 at 4:45 AM, swankie said:

I'm probably alone in this but I don't blame Lisa for not being Bronwyn's captain save-a-ho and defending her at all costs when she's obviously been a fake friend to Lisa all this time by not telling her all of the things she broke down about on the trip.

Right, I think Lisa and Bronwyn were friendly before Bronwyn came on the show, but not close (ala Dorit and Teddi, IYKYK). So, I agree with this to some extent. I loathe Lisa due to her behavior on this show, as well as her ideology off the show which is beyond the scope of this board. But, it's not like she and Bronwyn were bosom buddies, and I think Bronwyn came on the show expecting too much from Lisa! I was on Lisa's side (*throws up in my mouth a little*) during Bronwyn's histrionics about the rooms. Bronwyn needs to simmer and settle with the "You must always have my back!" tirades. 

That said, it's not just that Lisa hasn't been save-a-hoing Bronwyn. She's been actively poking at Bronwyn throughout the season. Like calling Heather by the side of the pool on Bronwyn's trip. And complaining about the coach accommodations that Bronwyn (or production-- but within the narrative of the show, it's Bronwyn) provided. And saying inappropriately nice things about Bronwyn's daughter's grandparents, when these are people who abandoned Bronwyn's daughter. And, perhaps most egregiously, suggesting that maybe Todd's cheating was Bronwyn's fault.

I don't know how much of this is purposefully targeted at Bronwyn and how much of this is just Lisa not being a good person, but I do understand why Bronwyn's upset. I don't think she should reasonably expect Lisa to always have her back, but I think she's allowed to be upset that she's not being treated with a baseline level of respect.

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b2H

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Whether Bronwyn’s analysis of herself and the ladies was at all accurate, it sure resonated with me.  Most people will hang with me, but I spent most of my life fighting for recognition, beginning with my parents and sister (my sister admitted to a friend of the family that she never wanted a sister and there were no other siblings).  My sister, five years older than I, preceded me in school all of my public education.  She was smarter than I (graduated fourth in her high school, while I only graduated 57th) and some of our mutual teachers would regularly ask me why I couldn’t be more like my sister.  She passed in 2008 from cancer and I lost focus from the competition that no longer existed.

Colored my life and, at 68 years old, I have few people I deeply trust.  After two failed marriages, my third has been a joy.  Hubby is wonderful and ‘gets me’.  I understand Bronwyn’s ‘soliloquy’ completely.

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StevieRocks

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I hate that old Elmer Gantry Granpappy humpin' Mary is garnering sympathy. I wish her poor son a full recovery and all the best. I have ZERO sympathy for a thieving charlatan, though, and I hope he gets as far away from that succubus as he can. I hope he never even visits that silly lunk when she's finally in prison where she belongs. 

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ZettaK

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I still don't know what exactly happened regarding Bronwyn and her husband's supposed cheating. Was it cheating and she tried to retract (after Todd pressuring her?) by saying on Watch What Happens Live that it was only flirting? She originally said that her daughter saw exchanges on her husband's i Pad, and she considered it serious enough to tell her. And she called it cheating.

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RealHousewife

RealHousewife

7 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Lisa also obviously admires rich and beautiful people (like the parents of Bronwyn's ex boyfriend and father of her child), and thinks they can't do wrong....How superficial she is. 

Heck, Bravo would lose so many storylines if the rich and beautiful didn't commit wrong. Just think of all the grifting, lawsuits over shady business practices, tax evasion, fraud and identity theft, telemarking schemes taking advantage of the elderly, even stealing from orphans and widows. 

swankie

swankie

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13 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

Heck, Bravo would lose so many storylines if the rich and beautiful didn't commit wrong. Just think of all the grifting, lawsuits over shady business practices, tax evasion, fraud and identity theft, telemarking schemes taking advantage of the elderly, even stealing from orphans and widows. 

Hell, Teresa Giudice came out of jail with almost a hero's welcome by Bravo.  Andy and the staff love a good HW scam.  The ones who don't do wrong or act too nice are booted for not having a storyline or in other words, are too boring! 

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