S14.E3: Life's a Beach

[Jel]

1 hour ago, snarts said:

Kyle's a lying hypocrite. She demands full transparency & honesty from everyone around her but expects them to constantly give her grace & respect her privacy. She requires complete loyalty & allegiance from friends yet is utterly dismissive when asked for any reciprocation. She's a complete user.

Dorit can be annoying as hell but I'm 100% on her side in this argument. She & Kyle were friends. Kyle took that friendship for granted & at some point decided she didn't really care about it, yet she never told Dorit. Now she's grasping at straws to blame her for the rift she herself caused, continually moving goal posts to justify why. Kyle stating they were never very close was likely the final straw, it  was publicly embarrassing. Dorit now has exactly zero fs left for Kyle & I am loving it.

Kyle saying that they were never great friends is proof of what a gas lighting narcissist she is: We all thought they were great friends because she went out of her way to give us and Dorit the impression that they were great friends.  Kyle made friends with Dorit because she needed her in her anti LVP campaign.

I've recently had to subscribe to a streaming service because the channel I watch the HWs on has decided to stop carrying the HW shows (strongly worded letter to follow) anyhoo -- because I have this streaming, I started rewatching season one. That was the season that Kyle and Camille had the huge dramatic fallout (You're such a liar, Camille!"). The fallout was not that big a deal to Kyle UNTIL Camille texted Kyle that she and Kelsey would no longer be using Mauricio as their realtor. I think, at the time, the viewers were kind of focused on what a bitch move that was on Camille's part, but what should have received more attention was how Kyle was suddenly very motivated to make up with Camille, and did, because there was something in it for her. That's Kyle. She's a user and always has been.

Also, in that first season, Lisa was so kind to Kyle and so supportive of her. 

[RealHousewife]

2 hours ago, MaggieG said:

One of Kyle's real issues with Dorit is that she is upset that Dorit mentioned on WWHL that she felt replaced by Morgan. But because now Kyle is refusing to say Morgan's name, she's using other BS excuses to be mad at Dorit. 

Dorit is justified in her anger because Kyle has been trying to rewrite history that they were never actually friends.

Portia also said Dorit is her favorite Housewife, the sweetest person ever, and always asks Portia what kind of food she’d like to have.

There are degrees of friendship, but for Kyle to suggest they were just work friends or whatever just doesn’t sound fair.

https://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/rhobh-kyle-richards-daughter-has-a-special-connection-to-dorit?amp

 

@Jel I know Lisa could be shady after there was already a rift in their friendship, but I don’t remember Lisa being anything but a kind, supportive friend to Kyle early on either. I don’t recall Lisa doing anything to deserve being compared to Bobby Fischer, the “preys on the weak” comment, none of that. I get that Lisa has flaws, but I think all she did was be a bigger hit with fans and Kyle wasn’t having it. I also get the impression Kyle cared for Dorit more when her goal was to push out Lisa and then Denise. 

Edited December 5 by RealHousewife

[Jel]

1 hour ago, Pi237 said:

I wonder how Kyle would feel if it were Dorit and Mo exchanging texts and memes, especially after they separated? Opinions vary, but I'd be pretty salty about my friend becoming text buddies with my husband while excluding me.  I'm not a jealous person, but that's a red flag and violates girl code, in my opinion. 

100% girl code violation. 

Felony level.

Stupid Kyle!

____

 

Also there's too much invoking of Tedd's name in this thread. It may get the bots or algos or robots to think we care and that she's regaining popularity. That risks bringing her back. Maybe we could use a nickname when referring to her, like Dumpy or Frumpy. 

[Rlb8031]

On 12/4/2024 at 11:08 AM, bravofan27 said:

I haven't really warmed up to Garcelle. She seems kind of dumb and her personality lacks, but her kid is gorgeous, for sure. That's the nicest thing I can think to say about her.

@bravofan27, just curious which of the ladies do you think is smart/shrewd? I mean out of this bunch Garcelle seems to be one of the better educated ladies. I certainly wouldn't call her dumb in comparison to the rest of the group.

[RealHousewife]

24 minutes ago, Rlb8031 said:

@bravofan27, just curious which of the ladies do you think is smart/shrewd? I mean out of this bunch Garcelle seems to be one of the better educated ladies. I certainly wouldn't call her dumb in comparison to the rest of the group.

I think Garcelle is one of the more intelligent BH cast members too. She shows a lot more emotional intelligence than all the rest imo. She doesn’t brag about it like Dorit does, but she also speaks multiple languages. Honestly, the only women out of the bunch I can see described as dim are Kyle and Kathy. With Kathy, it can be tricky reading her because she plays up the whole dumb blonde thing to be funny. The rest are all reasonably intelligent women. Even Erika has shown  intellectual curiosity and a strong memory. 

[lemoncake]

Boz is new and this mini trip was supposed to be about the cast getting to know her, but Kyle and Dorito can't see that their issues are not the most important thing in the room. 

Its very clear that both Kyle and Dorito are pissed off and miserable  about losing control over Mo and PK. The fact that Mo and Pk are living their best lives and their trial separations immediately became permanent is hilarious. They both thought their spouses  would come crawling back. 

Whats wrong with 8 towels for one person? 

Is Erika on Ozempic? She's def got Ozempic face. 

As for Kathy being stupid, idk, but she's at the age where it's no longer ditzy blonde. She's now in crazy grandma territory

Edited December 5 by lemoncake

[Pi237]

I love that Boz’s house is so colorful! It’s a step too much for me, but it’s such a relief from the endless white and gray. 
 

 

[Pi237]

15 hours ago, J80134 said:

 

Dorito doesn't need to worry about PK's apartment being suitable for the kids. He'll be too busy socializing & chasing young snatch to have them over very often.

 

Lol that’s what I immediately thought-don’t count on him having the kids a lot, Dorit. He’ll always be ‘traveling for work’   

Jennifer Tilly seems so quirky fun and charming. I almost don’t want her on this show. How will any of them yell and argue with her!? It’d be like kicking a puppy.

Beach games were dumb. 

[politichick]

1 hour ago, Pi237 said:

Lol that’s what I immediately thought-don’t count on him having the kids a lot, Dorit. He’ll always be ‘traveling for work’   

Jennifer Tilly seems so quirky fun and charming. I almost don’t want her on this show. How will any of them yell and argue with her!? It’d be like kicking a puppy.

Beach games were dumb. 

Oh, my dear, I suspect that Jennifer Tilly can give as good as she gets!

[Juneau Gal]

16 minutes ago, politichick said:

Oh, my dear, I suspect that Jennifer Tilly can give as good as she gets!

Exactly! I don’t think she would start anything, but she’d sure as hell finish it and with aplomb. 

[lemoncake]

2 hours ago, Pi237 said:

Beach games were dumb. 

Seriously. Duck duck goose? Kathy if you can't think of a game, hire someone to do it. 

[Keywestclubkid]

3 hours ago, lemoncake said:

 

Whats wrong with 8 towels for one person? 

 

This part .. like depending on when he does laundry like he would never need more then 2 at a givin time like why do you need so many towels 

[SweetieDarling]

12 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

This part .. like depending on when he does laundry like he would never need more then 2 at a givin time like why do you need so many towels 

"Guests"?

 

[Keywestclubkid]

21 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

"Guests"?

 

Does she think he has that many coming over? 
 

wait it’s Kyle of course she does lol 

[politichick]

56 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

"Guests"?

 

And cleaning lady.

[Pi237]

Its odd how they are together. He comes over all complimentary about the changes she's making. She cheerfully shows him the changes, looking for approval. She wants to know all about his new apartment. Like he's her kid off to college for the first time and not her estranged husband who supposedly betrayed her til she ran to the arms of another.....just so weird.  

[ww92]

4 hours ago, Pi237 said:

I love that Boz’s house is so colorful! It’s a step too much for me, but it’s such a relief from the endless white and gray.

Maybe an unpopular opinion but I think Boz's house is hideous. I would lose my mind just visiting for a few hours. I can't imagine actually living there.

 

1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

This part .. like depending on when he does laundry like he would never need more then 2 at a givin time like why do you need so many towels 

Kyle's probably worried that he'll have overnight guests who will need to freshen up in the morning.

[JenE4]

25 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

It’s odd how they are together. He comes over all complimentary about the changes she's making. She cheerfully shows him the changes, looking for approval. She wants to know all about his new apartment. Like he's her kid off to college for the first time and not her estranged husband who supposedly betrayed her til she ran to the arms of another.....just so weird.  

Definitely strange how Kyle thinks she needs to be involved in how Mauricio sets up his apartment. Likewise, Dorit not even allowing her children to go to PK’s apartment because she hasn’t seen it yet—as if these aren’t his kids, too! Then again, Kyle and Mauricio lived together for an entire year while separated, and PK and Dorit talk 5 times a day and haven’t mentioned to their kids that they’re separated, so maybe they have a different definition of “separated” over there in Beverly Hills than I do on the East coast. Usually separated is just step 1 of what you need to get on paper to file for a divorce. But it seems like they’re more in “trial separation”/couples-counseling type of territory of hoping to get back together. But I’m not sure either husband shares that same opinion/definition of separation. To me, it almost seems like Dorit is copying Kyle a little bit and hoping that PK won’t really move out, just get his act together, like how Mauricio never actually went anywhere (until now). But suddenly Mo and PK are like you, too? Boyz night! And I don’t think Kyle or Dorit really thought their husbands could now run off and be wing men for each other hitting on younger women while they’re just sitting at home bitterly rage-folding towels.

[Cosmocrush]

2 hours ago, lemoncake said:

Seriously. Duck duck goose? Kathy if you can't think of a game, hire someone to do it. 

I wonder what Kathy's "Brand Manager" does besides ride around town delivering invitations and joining in games meant for preschoolers.  If she had any part in those games she should be fired.  

I thought those women were really good sports to go along with that dumb stuff. 

[lemoncake]

2 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

thought those women were really good sports to go along with that dumb stuff. 

At least it was better than the "if you slept with a guy with a bent penis, drink" game. 

[Wicked]

Kyle suddenly looks a lot like Kathy to me, especially around the mouth.  And has even done the marble mouth talking thing that Kathy does a few times.  I never thought they looked at all alike but now I can't unsee it.

I have never cared enough about Dorit to care about this fight or her separation from PK. I hope this doesn't monopolize the whole season

[Cosmocrush]

4 minutes ago, Wicked said:

I have never cared enough about Dorit to care about this fight or her separation from PK. I hope this doesn't monopolize the whole season

Oh boy, same here.   Besides Dorito has already talked more about it than anyone else has talked about anything this season.  Poor Boz. 

[SemiCharmedLife]

On 12/4/2024 at 6:41 PM, ZettaK said:

The price of the specific 2024 model (Taycan, Bravo showed the back of the car) starts from $99,000 and goes up to many hundreds of thousands. 

Erika just doesn't know how to "read the room."  She is so centered on her self that she's destroying any goodwill she could possibly muster with another season of this show.  She lived lavishly on Tom's ill-gotten gains and has not a shred of remorse for his victims.  (Oh, that's right, she considers herself one of his victims. 😒)

[hoodooznoodooz]

2 hours ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

Erika just doesn't know how to "read the room."  She is so centered on her self that she's destroying any goodwill she could possibly muster with another season of this show. She lived lavishly on Tom's ill-gotten gains and has not a shred of remorse for his victims.  (Oh, that's right, she considers herself one of his victims. 😒)

Applause!!!!

Not to be pedantic, but Erika considers herself one of Girardi’s victims, and has not a shred of remorse for his alleged victims.

[snarts]

6 hours ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

Erika just doesn't know how to "read the room."  She is so centered on her self that she's destroying any goodwill she could possibly muster with another season of this show.  She lived lavishly on Tom's ill-gotten gains and has not a shred of remorse for his victims.  (Oh, that's right, she considers herself one of his victims. 😒)

...and the clocks running on her landing her next wallet. Father time is working against her as well. Obviously, there will be no financial divorce settlement and this show won't last forever!

Instead of buying/leasing the Porsche, she should've put that $ in her 401k.

[Keywestclubkid]

1 hour ago, snarts said:

...and the clocks running on her landing her next wallet. Father time is working against her as well. Obviously, there will be no financial divorce settlement and this show won't last forever!

Instead of buying/leasing the Porsche, she should've put that $ in her 401k.

There is no way on her own she could afford that car.. like its insane.. to live in a rental and have a Porsche is ridiculous but that's what we Americans do, live beyond our means

 

thank God she "allegedly" has a new sugar daddy to foot the bill and keep in her the lifestyle she is accustomed to

Jim Wilkes II.. is funding her life now "allegedly" and the funny thing is he is another lawyer

Good God if this one ends up fleecing his clients like her ex did the world will implode lol she has a type

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Wilkes

Edited December 6 by Keywestclubkid
allegedly

[ZettaK]

PK and Mauricio's separation circumstances are not the same.

PK asked for the separation, and moved out of the marital house immediately. He said on the show that he was not interested in communicating with Dorit too much. 

Kyle asked for the separation, not Mauricio, and he remained at their house for almost a year after the public announcement of the separation (very early July 2023 until May 2024 as seen on the show). He was photographed kissing a female in the summer of 2024 at the Mykonos airport, but he didn't do anything serious with a female in public before that. He remained in contact with Kyle by visiting the house, and going into vacations with their kids, and celebrating birthdays, etc. together.

Edited December 6 by ZettaK

[Mr. Miner]

14 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

I thought those women were really good sports to go along with that dumb stuff. 

It was worth it just to see Dorit faceplant twice.

[Keywestclubkid]

PERSONAL opinion here :  I think sometimes stupid games actually can be fun .. it keeps the girls from fighting and just being silly .. I don't fault Kathy for playing duck duck goose with these ladies its just dumb silly fun... and it kept us from yet ANOTHER sit around and bitch about the same shit over and over for the 100th time

 

sometimes mindless fun that would norm be stupid to you is just what you need to have a good time and let go

Edited December 6 by Keywestclubkid

[Cosmocrush]

12 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

sometimes mindless fun that would norm be stupid to you is just what you need to have a good time and let go

I never thought of it that way, but this is a good point, especially with this group.  

[Natalie68]

On 12/5/2024 at 7:31 AM, Jel said:

100% girl code violation. 

Felony level.

Stupid Kyle!

____

 

Also there's too much invoking of Tedd's name in this thread. It may get the bots or algos or robots to think we care and that she's regaining popularity. That risks bringing her back. Maybe we could use a nickname when referring to her, like Dumpy or Frumpy. 

At one point she said her name was going to be Butch.  Let's go with that.

19 hours ago, lemoncake said:

Seriously. Duck duck goose? Kathy if you can't think of a game, hire someone to do it. 

HW's need to stop making the 'wives' do this dumb bullshit.  I have never heard my friends say they went to this party or get together and played grade school games.  Stupid AF.

18 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Does she think he has that many coming over? 
 

wait it’s Kyle of course she does lol 

I doubt his guests are there in the morning to shower. 😂

[njbchlover]

2 hours ago, Mr. Miner said:

It was worth it just to see Dorit faceplant twice.

But, of course, she had to blame that on her Chanel pants/outfit!!! 

Can't Dorit even fall in the sand without letting the world know she's wearing a designer outfit?  

[RealHousewife]

5 hours ago, njbchlover said:

But, of course, she had to blame that on her Chanel pants/outfit!!! 

Can't Dorit even fall in the sand without letting the world know she's wearing a designer outfit?  

Next time I fall I am blaming TJ Maxx. 

[Cheyanne11]

When I tell you I cackled the two times Dorit face-planted in the sand--oh, it was glorious.  

[bravofan27]

Before Kyle ever said Kathy lives in a nursery rhyme, I was thinking her traveling invite schtick reeked of kindergarten. Her driving around with a pillow, eating a banana, and delivering beach blankets, snacks, and funny hats. Dorit's daughter was super excited of course. 

Garcelle is catty and mean. When Dorit and Boz were talking at the beach lunch, Garcelle was on the other side of the table making snide comments. 

[nicole21290]

16 hours ago, ZettaK said:

PK and Mauricio's separation circumstances are not the same.

PK asked for the separation, and moved out of the marital house immediately. He said on the show that he was not interested in communicating with Dorit too much. 

Kyle asked for the separation, not Mauricio, and he remained at their house for almost a year after the public announcement of the separation (very early July 2023 until May 2024 as seen on the show). He was photographed kissing a female in the summer of 2024 at the Mykonos airport, but he didn't do anything serious with a female in public before that. He remained in contact with Kyle by visiting the house, and going into vacations with their kids, and celebrating birthdays, etc. together.

We actually know exactly when he moved out, I think. She has said it was when she was out of the state, that he was gone when she returned. We know she was in Fort Worth TX (Morgan filmed a movie there) and then Nashville TN for a few days apiece at the beginning of April 2024. She left on the 7th April, IIRC, and was literally wearing a MW shirt at the time, lol. It seems to fit the timeline relatively well, because the news about Mau's new condo came out right at the beginning of May and filming began mid-May. 

[hottesthw]

On 12/7/2024 at 1:25 AM, bravofan27 said:

Garcelle is catty and mean. When Dorit and Boz were talking at the beach lunch, Garcelle was on the other side of the table making snide comments

She’s always mean. Everything they’ve ever accused her of she’s been guilty of but for some reason she twists it around and then everyone is afraid of her and voila, she’s off the hook. 

[Shannah Banana]

On 12/6/2024 at 12:18 PM, njbchlover said:

Can't Dorit even fall in the sand without letting the world know she's wearing a designer outfit?  

No, she cannot.  Dorit is nothing if not pretentious. 

[Back Atcha]

On 12/5/2024 at 11:20 PM, SemiCharmedLife said:

The price of the specific 2024 model (Taycan, Bravo showed the back of the car) starts from $99,000 and goes up to many hundreds of thousands. 

The numbers are probably different when one's car is "featured" on a "top" (hahaha) reality TV series.  Wonder if the dealer's name might be mentioned ... accidentally.

Edited December 10 by Back Atcha

[Sweet-tea]

On 12/3/2024 at 7:15 PM, Stats Queen said:

Really annoyed the Erika is showing off her expensive new car since she lived off I’ll gotten gains for years.

Yes. I know this is Erika’s redemption edit, but I’m not buying it. 

Kyle’s mouth looks weird in some scenes, as if she can’t move it naturally. What dd she have done? 

The scene with Mauricio and Kyle was probably supposed to be amiable, but it was awkward. I sensed the tension between them. Is Kyle angry that he’s moving on? Didn’t she want the separation? Did she expect him to just hang on indefinitely while she found herself? 

On 12/3/2024 at 7:32 PM, RealHousewife said:

That Tom Cruise lookalike was really impressive. 

But short! He looked even shorter than Tom Cruise. 

[Surrealist]

On 12/4/2024 at 6:00 PM, FlyingEgret said:

My favorite part of the episode was him telling Kyle not to buy him another set of sheets. If anything that may be the biggest clue their relationship is done-zo...

I thought the same when he said that.

[Natalie68]

17 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

Yes. I know this is Erika’s redemption edit, but I’m not buying it. 

Kyle’s mouth looks weird in some scenes, as if she can’t move it naturally. What dd she have done? 

The scene with Mauricio and Kyle was probably supposed to be amiable, but it was awkward. I sensed the tension between them. Is Kyle angry that he’s moving on? Didn’t she want the separation? Did she expect him to just hang on indefinitely while she found herself? 

But short! He looked even shorter than Tom Cruise. 

It looks like her lips are larger than normal and it looks like she cannot feel them.  She HAS been doing weird movements with them.

[Avaleigh]

On 12/4/2024 at 1:12 AM, hoodooznoodooz said:

I wonder how many Kellys and Birkins she will purchase during the most difficult two - - going on four - - years of her life. 

I don't think she could ever purchase enough in her mind. Some of the shopping these women do particularly Erika, Dorit, and Kyle--it's like they're trying to fill a canyon sized hole of emotional emptiness. It's a futile task because retail therapy isn't the answer for what's wrong there.

Edited December 12 by Avaleigh
Edited cuz IDK what I'm talking about

[snarts]

9 minutes ago, Avaleigh said:

It's actually Family Guy money. I think she's been on that show since the beginning. She only did one episode of The Simpsons. Still, I'm guessing the Family Guy money is pretty significant since the show has been on for 25 years and counting.

Her ex-husband, Sam Simon, was co-creator of The Simpsons.

[Sweet-tea]

On 12/4/2024 at 11:38 AM, Natalie68 said:

I think she wanted him to pine for her and he isn't.  He took it as I'M FREE! and went full frat boy.  Dating girls younger than Farrah. His dad likes them super young as well. Gotta say, Mo's new chompers are horrible.

I noticed his teeth. They look fake and awful. 

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Last season I felt embarrassed for Dorit by how hard she was trying to be friends and accepted/included by Kyle, and Kyle pretty much ignored her. I think having Kathy and Erika on her friend list and being rid of PK has helped her with her confidence. And boinking MO has also probably given her some perspective as well.

Do you think Dorit was boinking MO? I thought that was just speculated by some people on this board. 

[Avaleigh]

1 hour ago, snarts said:

Her ex-husband, Sam Simon, was co-creator of The Simpsons.

Lol, I was replying while I was only a quarter through the episode! I just returned to the episode and got to the part where she mentioned that! A good reminder for me to watch the whole episode before talking out of my ass.

[princelina]

4 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

Do you think Dorit was boinking MO? I thought that was just speculated by some people on this board. 

Haha it's funny to me that people were saying that, and now Kyle is trying to get mileage out of PK texting her! 🤣

[Sweet-tea]

On 12/5/2024 at 8:15 AM, pasdetrois said:

I think Mo checked out of the marriage a long time ago. Kyle would be exhausting to live with. He stuck around to line up his financial ducks before leaving. He faced threatening lawsuits and didn't know how they would be resolved. He needed time to set up his own reality TV stuff. He played a long game, and Kyle is furious she lost control of the narrative.

I agree. He looked checked out during the last few seasons of the show, before the one about their separation. And like PK, he was traveling a lot.