S14.E01: Grace Time Is Over

[Keywestclubkid]

7 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Dorit lets her dog lick her lips/mouth. 

this part and it was semi open mouth .. i was like UGH

[EtheltoTillie]

I swear I am losing brain cells.  I tried to watch this yesterday, but I could not follow it.  Can someone explain to me in three sentences or so what this PK/Kyle fight is all about?  I tried to understand it from the NY Magazine recap also and failed. 

[Keywestclubkid]

6 hours ago, ZettaK said:

 

Garcelle mentioned that the music video (with the singer) wasn't helpful either, meaning that it generated gossip. But a music video is not supposed to be real life, is it? I haven't seen it though.

my thought on it is  when/IF you got rumors swirling around you and you make that kind of video you know what you are doing .. you cant play "oh why do you guys keep asking me this stuff its "private" and then do something like that .. they were trying to milk that story line last year and NOW she's distancing herself from it ...its just ODD... so when you were deflecting from your problematic marriage it was ok but now just pretend it didn't happen??

Edited Wednesday at 12:49 PM by Keywestclubkid

[Chatty Cake]

I didn’t care about Dorit and PK when they were together so I don’t care about  their separation.  I hope we don’t have to listen to Dorit go on and on all season about his now alcoholism. Also how are they going to keep it from the kids when they are both discussing it on tv?

One thing I appreciate is that Dorit was more the focal point rather than Kyle. Hahaha.I also don’t care about is she or isn’t she with a woman. 

Sutton and Jennifer are too much but in a good way.

Garcelle is my favorite. 

Wasn’t too impressed with Boz. I will give her a chance though. She’s got to be better than Annamarie.

I couldn’t figure out who was missing at first. Then when they flashed back I remembered Crystal. 
 

[Keywestclubkid]

5 minutes ago, Chatty Cake said:

I didn’t care about Dorit and PK when they were together so I don’t care about  their separation.  I hope we don’t have to listen to Dorit go on and on all season about his now alcoholism. Also how are they going to keep it from the kids when they are both discussing it on tv?

One thing I appreciate is that Dorit was more the focal point rather than Kyle. Hahaha.I also don’t care about is she or isn’t she with a woman. 

Sutton and Jennifer are too much but in a good way.

Garcelle is my favorite. 

Wasn’t too impressed with Boz. I will give her a chance though. She’s got to be better than Annamarie.

I couldn’t figure out who was missing at first. Then when they flashed back I remembered Crystal. 
 

Dorit is gonna beat that alcoholic thing to death like she and Kyle  kept trying to last season with Sutton and it didn't work out in their favor.. just made them look like assholes .. i can see it just pissing him off and him retaliating and her trying to play victim

Edited Wednesday at 12:52 PM by Keywestclubkid

[hoodooznoodooz]

Someone on a WWCL Facebook page remarked that it’s interesting how “Chicago” never asked Erika to return to perform again.

[AnnMarie17]

6 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

PK’s hair looks good.

What is wrong with me?

I actually thought he looked better than we've seen him in a while, maybe ever.  That's what giving up drinking/Dorit can do a for a person! 

[Baltimore Betty]

8 hours ago, dancingdreamer said:

Dorit almost  looked  like she was smirking  as she told EJ the bad news.

I thought so too, I got the impression EJ knew this info prior to this scene being filmed because she started to smirk as well. 

Let's go to the Beverly Hills Design Center to shop but instead of shopping let's discuss something painfully private such as a separation then do not buy anything and leave, those two could have gone out for coffee to do that scene.

Funny how Erika looked at the price of a box (something like $1000+) and she gasped, oh how the rich have fallen. Maybe if she had gone with a decorator, she would have gotten a discount.

Sutton's party was interesting looking and at first I thought they were walking on black pea gravel or dirt. Surrealism certainly is in the eye of the beholder according to some of the costumes worn that night, how does a ball gown translate into surrealism?

Kyle can cry me a river because she cannot get a chair thru a doorway.

Kathy takes glam squad to the extreme, IV's, face masks, lip masks, someone standing by with a milkshake, and of course she has a treatment room, we should all come back as Kathy in our next lives but we would know when it is acceptable to take our weaves out.

Garcelle is making movies, producing, directing, etc...HW's has been very good to Garcelle, giving her exposure so she can get a foot or her whole self in the door, good for her, she knew how to make the HW show work for her.

 

 

 

 

 

55 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Someone on a WWCL Facebook page remarked that it’s interesting how “Chicago” never asked Erika to return to perform again.

Stunt casting only happens once?

[Stats Queen]

1 hour ago, Chatty Cake said:

Wasn’t too impressed with Boz. I will give her a chance though. She’s got to be better than Annamarie.

This is what housewives does to use, we just keep lowering the bar on our expectations 

[SweetieDarling]

8 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Funny how Erika looked at the price of a box (something like $1000+) and she gasped, oh how the rich have fallen. Maybe if she had gone with a decorator, she would have gotten a discount.

She did! Dorit met her there.

Does Buco Di Beppo mean nothing to you?

[hottesthw]

12 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Ugh I seriously could care less about this late in life lesbian storyline that they are STILL dragging out .. 

Especially since we all know in reality it’s called menopause! Hope they don’t drag it out for the next 5-7 years!

Edited Wednesday at 02:23 PM by hottesthw

[SweetieDarling]

11 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Sutton's party was interesting looking and at first I thought they were walking on black pea gravel or dirt. Surrealism certainly is in the eye of the beholder according to some of the costumes worn that night, how does a ball gown translate into surrealism?

Kathy looked like she walked out of the 1970s.

That dress reminds me of something Phyllis Lindstrom  might wear while dropping off Bess at Mary's ,on her way to a dinner party with Lars

[dmeets]

I noticed during the lunch with PK and Mauricio (and what's up with the franchise featuring lunch dates with husbands without the wives present? Salt Lake City just did the same thing a couple weeks ago) that Mauricio was doing the same thing he did in his scenes with Kyle last year. Reacting to everything PK was saying by making odd facial tics and acting with his eyebrows like he's Joey Tribbiani. I swear, the more experience Mau gets in front of the camera, the more uncomfortable he gets. That or he can't even film a scene without being high as a kite, which could become awkward with his newly sober bestie.

[politichick]

1 hour ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I thought so too, I got the impression EJ knew this info prior to this scene being filmed because she started to smirk as well. 

Let's go to the Beverly Hills Design Center to shop but instead of shopping let's discuss something painfully private such as a separation then do not buy anything and leave, those two could have gone out for coffee to do that scene.

Funny how Erika looked at the price of a box (something like $1000+) and she gasped, oh how the rich have fallen. Maybe if she had gone with a decorator, she would have gotten a discount.

Sutton's party was interesting looking and at first I thought they were walking on black pea gravel or dirt. Surrealism certainly is in the eye of the beholder according to some of the costumes worn that night, how does a ball gown translate into surrealism?

Kyle can cry me a river because she cannot get a chair thru a doorway.

Kathy takes glam squad to the extreme, IV's, face masks, lip masks, someone standing by with a milkshake, and of course she has a treatment room, we should all come back as Kathy in our next lives but we would know when it is acceptable to take our weaves out.

Garcelle is making movies, producing, directing, etc...HW's has been very good to Garcelle, giving her exposure so she can get a foot or her whole self in the door, good for her, she knew how to make the HW show work for her.

 

 

 

 

 

Stunt casting only happens once?

Ariana from Vanderpump Rules was given a return engagement.

[Natalie68]

14 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

God I hate Kyle ..

Didn’t Lisa vanderpump call Kyle a manipulator.. oh how the worm turns and it wasn’t the one they ran off lol 

Same. I hate her more because she is making me take Dorit's side and I cannot stand Dorit.  Man, she is activated!  And a smoker! So far like Boz.  Wasn't sure about that performer at Sutton's party. Kathy pulling her extensions out was something.  I wouldn't want to be as busy as Gabrielle.  Erika looks better this season than last.  Those leg muscles! 

I think I know that monkey at her party (I have volunteered at the facility). I am having my sister watch and confirm.  If she is who I think she is, her name is Maya, about late 30's/early 40's and is a rescue.  Had been a pet that was fed fast food.  She was found in a dumpster and her body is messed up from the horrible diet.  She is basically retired (and loved) and is cared for by the organization that rescues animals like her. I will confirm. 

14 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Not that I care but why are they still beating this is Kyle Bi or not storyline to death? And we still don’t know right? 

Because Kyle is boring AF and has nothing else she wants to talk about. 

[Natalie68]

10 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

😂

I only had time to watch one of the shows, and it was BH all the way. I missed those crazy broads. 

Very happy for all of Garcelle's success. It's nice seeing good things happen for good people. 

Dorit was clearly joking when she picked Kyle as her least favorite sister, though that may be true now. Kyle just spilled the drink on her, and Dorit laughed as slhe answered.

Dorit definitely came in hot this episode, but I don't blame her. For several years now, Kyle gets so rude and snappy towards her. I get that Kyle has much closer friends, but it's still not cool to be dismissive of other friendships imo. It's hurtful. Dorit has young kids and might not even have the time to meet up as much as she'd like. I think Dorit reminds me of myself. I am pretty laidback and quick to forgive, take blame for stuff that's not my fault (falling for gaslighting), but then I snap out of it  and am done with you forever. I think if it weren't for the show and their husbands, Dorit would be done with Kyle. Whatever the reason, she's definitely "engaged" this season. 

Me too

[snarts]

I tried. It's hard when you're only interested in Garcelle & Sutton...

Hate Kyle, hate Erica, indifferent to Dorit. Who is Boz pretending to be a long time friend of?

So, happy that Garcelle continues to be busy. It might be the vanderpump affect but her oldest son gives me creeper vibes.

Sutton looks great and seems happy to now have a close ally on the show. Maybe that can help it be a bit lighter, more entertaining, less constant conflict. 

[For Cereals]

15 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Yellacat is Erika in 10 years.

☠️

[amarante]

The scene at the Pacific Design was odd in so many ways.

Obviously the *normal* thing would have been to meet for coffee or drinks.

But staged so that 1) PDC and what shop they went into could get some kind of promotional consideration and 2) Erika could slip in the "moving on" scenario 

The PDC is essentially on its last legs with loads of empty store fronts. I am not BH housewife rich but I did decorate with the help of a designer when I did a gut remodel and redecorated. 

I went there a few times with her and it is like a morgue with only a few places still open. For whatever reason we went to look at closet interiors for storage ideas- in my next life I will come back with someone who has a dry cleaner's moving rack in my closet. And I ordered my bathroom fixtures there because she had a long standing relationship with the owners and could get a good deal.

But people don't go there without their designers because what few stores are left are to the trade only.

 

[heatherchandler]

1 hour ago, Natalie68 said:

Maya, about late 30's/early 40's and is a rescue.  Had been a pet that was fed fast food.  She was found in a dumpster

People are disgusting.  I hope this isn’t common, but I worry that it is.

[For Cereals]

3 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Funny how Erika looked at the price of a box (something like $1000+) and she gasped, oh how the rich have fallen. Maybe if she had gone with a decorator, she would have gotten a discount.

Girl should’ve gone over to the HD Buttercup outlet with Jeff Lewis or one of his assistants…

Oooh!  Also, did anyone else repeat Amanda de Cadenet’s name in Bubble’s voice?  Just me?

Edited Wednesday at 05:58 PM by For Cereals

[sistermagpie]

Couldn't help but remember what a big deal it was when Kyle called Kim an alcoholic on camera every time Dorit explained that really the problem with her marriage was that PK had a drinking problem. Was an alcoholic. Was a raging alcoholic. Was a total raging alcoholic.

It seemed to get worse every time she told someone.

And seriously, they're not telling a 10 year old that they're separated and think they'll get away with that? I get that it's easy for them since they seemed to spend months away from each other anyway but...you're saying this on TV.

[Natalie68]

11 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

People are disgusting.  I hope this isn’t common, but I worry that it is.

They are.  If it is Maya, her poor body really suffered.  Where she lives gets many confiscated animals.  There is a capuchin monkey that they have that was taken from a major performer.  They wouldn't tell me who.

[Cosmocrush]

5 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Someone on a WWCL Facebook page remarked that it’s interesting how “Chicago” never asked Erika to return to perform again.

Well, clearly the money supporting that stunt casting dried up and by dried up I mean confiscated. 

Erica shopping for new expensive furniture for her rented poolhouse home was ridiculous.  Of course, we never saw her actually buy anything. 

Edited Wednesday at 06:09 PM by Cosmocrush

[MaggieG]

I'm kind of loving an activated Dorit no longer putting up with Kyle's ridiculousness. I also loved the gray pantsuit thing she was wearing in her first scene with Erika.

 

[twilightzone]

4 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Garcelle is making movies, producing, directing, etc...HW's has been very good to Garcelle, giving her exposure so she can get a foot or her whole self in the door, good for her, she knew how to make the HW show work for her.

Garcelle had a legit career in the business - before the show - unlike Kyle - whose acting career had long faded.  Garcelle only signed to HW - so she can be closer to home - and her boys.  As a HW, she was smart - like Eileen.  They didn't ruin their reputations - like Rinna.

And it's Garcelle and Sutton who make the show.

[Giddyup]

What I got from the episode is that PK needed to be drunk to tolerate Dorit.  Once he quit he said ah hell no. 
 

[amarante]

13 minutes ago, twilightzone said:

Garcelle had a legit career in the business - before the show - unlike Kyle - whose acting career had long faded.  Garcelle only signed to HW - so she can be closer to home - and her boys.  As a HW, she was smart - like Eileen.  They didn't ruin their reputations - like Rinna.

And it's Garcelle and Sutton who make the show.

Calling Kyle's appearances a career is too kind :-) She had some jobs as a child - nothing major and she was essentially an extra as an adult. Any jobs she has had are recent and are pretty stunt casting because of her actual "career" as a BH housewife.

Garcelle was a legitimate working actress who had real roles. I rewatched NYPD a few years ago and she was a DA with an actual storyline who appeared in multiple episodes. I am sure there are others but that is the one that stands out because she was excellent in the role and because she was so f'ing gorgeous. 

[Cosmocrush]

16 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

I don’t know why everyone thought Doritos disc hat was weird, everyone looked weird

I thought the problem was she kept taking it off and putting it back on. 

[sugarbaker design]

50 minutes ago, For Cereals said:

Oooh!  Also, did anyone else repeat Amanda de Cadenet’s name in Bubble’s voice?  Just me?

Not just you! 😉  That's all I know about Amanda de Cadenet.

Edited Wednesday at 06:44 PM by sugarbaker design

[ZettaK]

I don't doubt the Dorit/Kyle feud will last all season (judging from the previews of the next episode). Dorit seems angry (PK suggested the separation), and she desperately needs a storyline. Attacking an OG HW is a clever move. Kyle is not innocent though. She mentioned more than once they were never close friends, contrary to what obviously Dorit believed.

[Pi237]

That dog got a mouthful of lipstick, concealer and tanner🤮

Dorit can’t let anything go without beating it to death a hundred times, and she is incapable of self reflection or personal growth. So, as much as I don’t care about her separation or friendship fight with Kyle—-she might just be the Perfect foil for Kyle. Everyone else lets her skate after a few fake crying gravel voiced apologies. But Dorit will want a blood oath.  She’s going to torture Kyle with her victimhood. I might enjoy that. 
 

Kyle needs to stop word-souping around her fake sexuality journey. If she doesn’t want to talk about it, then stop dropping hints and using it as a storyline.  She’s trying to make other people feel bad for asking questions when she’s doing everything she can to invite the questions.  Just Be Honest! Kyle lol or STFU cuz it’s so boring and annoying now. 
 

I like Boz. I thought she was going to get into it with Kathy for the ‘boss’ comment. That was weird. But she said “boss? I’ll take it!”  Can’t see Dorit not getting on her nerves fast tho. 
 

Are Garcelle’s movies about real girls who have gone missing? If so, that’s awesome. Black girls don’t get the press white girls get when they go missing, as we know.  Good for her that she’s getting so much work.  
 

I hope Jennifer Tilly isn’t just on the show to tell Sutton how Fabulous she is.  

[Palimelon]

Who would have thought we'd see the day when Dorit has a better relationship with Erika than with Kyle.

On the other hand, this is a HWs show, where alliances friendships shift over the seasons, so anything is possible.

As long as Garcelle and Sutton stay friends, I'll be happy.

Edited Wednesday at 07:19 PM by Palimelon

[amarante]

35 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

I thought the problem was she kept taking it off and putting it back on. 

The problem was it wasn’t surrealistic as it was futuristic which is entirely different. 

Erika absolutely nailed it. 

Sutton should have worn vintage Schiaparelli as she did some authentic surrealist clothing back in the day. 

[Baltimore Betty]

1 hour ago, twilightzone said:

Garcelle had a legit career in the business - before the show - unlike Kyle - whose acting career had long faded.  Garcelle only signed to HW - so she can be closer to home - and her boys.  As a HW, she was smart - like Eileen.  They didn't ruin their reputations - like Rinna.

And it's Garcelle and Sutton who make the show.

I know Garcelle had real credits to her name before BH but let's face it, women of a certain age tend to disappear in Hollywood so good for Garcelle getting more work and vehicles to direct, opportunities from her face being on camera every week and keeping it classy has really worked for her.

 

[ButterQueen]

5 hours ago, AnnMarie17 said:

I actually thought he looked better than we've seen him in a while, maybe ever.  That's what giving up drinking/Dorit can do a for a person! 

Lord help me, I thought he looked good too.

[ZettaK]

2 hours ago, sistermagpie said:

Couldn't help but remember what a big deal it was when Kyle called Kim an alcoholic on camera every time Dorit explained that really the problem with her marriage was that PK had a drinking problem. Was an alcoholic. Was a raging alcoholic. Was a total raging alcoholic.

It seemed to get worse every time she told someone.

And seriously, they're not telling a 10 year old that they're separated and think they'll get away with that? I get that it's easy for them since they seemed to spend months away from each other anyway but...you're saying this on TV.

They are both ridiculous. Their kids know what is going on because their father moved out, and the separation story is on tv, and the media.

Edited Wednesday at 08:14 PM by ZettaK

[ZettaK]

7 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

my thought on it is  when/IF you got rumors swirling around you and you make that kind of video you know what you are doing .. you cant play "oh why do you guys keep asking me this stuff its "private" and then do something like that .. they were trying to milk that story line last year and NOW she's distancing herself from it ...its just ODD... so when you were deflecting from your problematic marriage it was ok but now just pretend it didn't happen??

Kyle is using it as a storyline. She says that there is nothing going on with Morgan (?, name), and her next comment is that she discussed it with her daughters. She didn’t mention what was discussed. Was it the media frenzy (well, that's relative, I mean "frenzy"), her being upset about it, or her actual feelings for the woman? 

Edited Wednesday at 08:29 PM by ZettaK

[ZettaK]

11 hours ago, JenE4 said:

I think Dorit was going for Dali’s clock before it melted. Clock fortified with solar panels to absorb the rays instead. Maybe there was a deeper message on the marching of climate change over time and humanity’s need for alternative energy sources?

Erika was like an MC Escher—now with even *more* 3D. But at least she really leaned into the walking piece of art.

Garcelle and the new lady just stumbled off an Oscars red carpet, looking fabulous. But only working in the surreal based on their reactions to others. The new lady was like, are you kidding me with taking your weave out right now, Kathy???

Jennifer was Bjork meets Black Swan, or maybe ithe black dead goose heads was a social commentary on dark politics.

Sutton and Kyle were an homage to Home Goods art. A few years ago, Home Goods was overrun by these paintings of animals wearing floral headdresses. I would expect this of Kyle. Et tu, Sutton??

Most outfits were a surrealistic fail.

Edited Wednesday at 09:08 PM by ZettaK

[amarante]

1 hour ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I know Garcelle had real credits to her name before BH but let's face it, women of a certain age tend to disappear in Hollywood so good for Garcelle getting more work and vehicles to direct, opportunities from her face being on camera every week and keeping it classy has really worked for her.

 

I think the landscape for older actresses has significantly changed with the advent of cable and streaming services.

Yes it is still unfair that you can have an old actor have a love interest with a 20 year old actress but television and streaming seems to be offer a lot of opportunity.

Most obviously the remake of Matlock with Kathy Bates seems to be a major hit on a broadcast network.

But the streamers have so many really excellent shows for woman of a certain age - Jodie Foster, Kate Winslet, Anniston and Witherspoon. A slew of others especially British imports like period dramas or mysteries like Magpie Murders.

I used to go to movies quite a lot - even well past the age when theoretically I wasn't the "audience" but I look at current movies and there is literally nothing I want to say - lots of comic books and fantasy or equivalent. 

[RealHousewife]

1 hour ago, ZettaK said:

I don't doubt the Dorit/Kyle feud will last all season (judging from the previews of the next episode). Dorit seems angry (PK suggested the separation), and she desperately needs a storyline. Attacking an OG HW is a clever move. Kyle is not innocent though. She mentioned more than once they were never close friends, contrary to what obviously Dorit believed.

I've noticed a pattern with Kyle not seeing the other women as close of friends as they see her.

Vanderpump always seemed more invested in the friendship until Lisa prays on the weak and all that. She seemed to adore Kyle that first season and referred to her as her "best friend." I do believe their friendship was played up for the show but that Lisa did consider her a bestie.

Kyle once yelled at Erika something like "do you not have good friends?" when the women were discussing her close friendship with Teddi. Erika responded that she did and that she considered Kyle one of them. 

Sutton said something about Kyle not losing another sister by losing her as a friend. Kyle responded with "don't flatter yourself." Ouch. 

Regarding Dorit, Kyle said their families have only been on one trip together. I'm sorry, but while that doesn't necessarily make for best friends, for most people it does still take a friendship of sorts to go on even a single trip together. I wouldn't do that with just anyone. 

I get that it could be annoying when you feel like it's disingenuous of someone to portray you as their best friend when you're not or act like you're as close as sisters when you're not. (I feel a bit awkward when I know someone doesn't like me that much but refers to me as a sister or says they love me.) But this pattern of women thinking they're actually good friends with Kyle and Kyle being like nope, it's not pretty. It seems like unless you're her lifelong friend, you don't mean much to her. 

[emma675]

Sutton: "what in the hell is Dorit wearing?!" as she stands there with deer antlers on her head. I love Sutton.

Dorit better watch herself throwing around the 'PK is a raging alcoholic' statements. I feel like his lawyer could have a field day over those if they do eventually get divorced. 

Where is this new money of Erika's coming from? 

Garcelle's "of course Dorit wrote this, it's long and winded" made me laugh so hard I had to pause the show.

[Baltimore Betty]

1 hour ago, emma675 said:

Dorit better watch herself throwing around the 'PK is a raging alcoholic' statements.

Are any of the women nodding in agreement that PK was a raging alcoholic like they all have seen him lit up on various occasions and problematic? I do not recall hearing about PK's drunken antics.

 

[politichick]

4 hours ago, Giddyup said:

What I got from the episode is that PK needed to be drunk to tolerate Dorit.  Once he quit he said ah hell no. 
 

That's what I'm thinking, too, lol.

[njbchlover]

5 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

Well, clearly the money supporting that stunt casting dried up and by dried up I mean confiscated. 

Erica shopping for new expensive furniture for her rented poolhouse home was ridiculous.  Of course, we never saw her actually buy anything. 

But we did see her sit on something that someone else could possibly buy, even knowing that her spray tan would probably stain it.  That's why she sat on something dark in color - she even said it.  

To me, this was a promotional stunt for the store at the design center, however, it probably cost them more because they obviously should not be selling the furniture she sat on during her conversation with Dorit.

I can't imagine why Erica would want to invest in expensive furniture to fit her small rental house.  Can she even afford to buy anything that expensive?  

[ww92]

3 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Kyle is using it as a storyline. She says that there is nothing going on with Morgan (?, name), and her next comment is that she discussed it with her daughters. She didn’t mention what was discussed. Was it the media frenzy (well, that's relative, I mean "frenzy"), her being upset about it, or her actual feelings for the woman? 

In that one interview that we talked about in the media thread, Kyle says that the conversation with her daughters was one of the hardest conversations she's ever had in her life. If the conversation consisted of "I know the media is running wild with rumors that Morgan and I are an item, we're not. I'm not into women. Just wanted you all to know that in case you were wondering" then I fail to see how that would be such a difficult conversation. I do find it weird that it never occurred to her that she might have been following Morgan around like a puppy dog as long as she has because she might be attracted to her until the media mentioned it.

[njbchlover]

4 hours ago, Pi237 said:

 

I like Boz. I thought she was going to get into it with Kathy for the ‘boss’ comment. That was weird. But she said “boss? I’ll take it!”  Can’t see Dorit not getting on her nerves fast tho. 

I liked Boz, as well - she looks/sounds like she will be able to hold her own with these women.

Kathy Hilton just annoys the hell out of me - I don't like her, never liked her, and that right there ("Hello, Boss") is one of the reasons.  I think that Kathy just thinks she is so above everyone else that she doesn't even pay attention enough to hear** and repeat someone's name correctly.  She managed to cover her faux pas quickly this time, but it was still there.

Kathy is rude, condescending and a snob.  

**Or, another thought - maybe she is experiencing some hearing loss and is too vain to get hearing aids?  

Edited Wednesday at 11:48 PM by njbchlover

[Cosmocrush]

3 hours ago, amarante said:

Most obviously the remake of Matlock with Kathy Bates seems to be a major hit on a broadcast network.

But the streamers have so many really excellent shows for woman of a certain age - Jodie Foster, Kate Winslet, Anniston and Witherspoon

All very talented white women. 

[SweetieDarling]

5 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

Kathy Hilton just annoys the hell out of me - I don't like her, never liked her, and that right there ("Hello, Boss") is one of the reasons. 

As they were introduced, Kathy said she knew who Boz is, so I was unsure if it was a compliment because Boz has been the boss at so many places or if she was just being an asshole because she's Kathy Hilton

[njbchlover]

8 minutes ago, ww92 said:

In that one interview that we talked about in the media thread, Kyle says that the conversation with her daughters was one of the hardest conversations she's ever had in her life. If the conversation consisted of "I know the media is running wild with rumors that Morgan and I are an item, we're not. I'm not into women. Just wanted you all to know that in case you were wondering" then I fail to see how that would be such a difficult conversation. I do find it weird that it never occurred to her that she might have been following Morgan around like a puppy dog as long as she has because she might be attracted to her until the media mentioned it.

While you're right that if the conversation went the way you described, it should be easy, but I think that either way, this would be a difficult conversation to have with your kids, because of the speculation and rumors floating all over media and social media.  Plus, we know that Kyle is pretty emotional most of the time with her kids, and I think that she's even more emotional now, with everything she's going through.

I don't think that Kyle is seriously attracted to Morgan or any other woman sexually.  I think that she may have experienced some very deep feelings for Morgan and she may have felt a little confused, but not any longer.  

I hope that this storyline does not drag out for more than a few episodes, as it's boring and too reminiscent of that horribly Braunwyn woman from RHOC.