S18.E18: Reunion, Part 1

[Salacious Kitty]

I thought Emily mentioned Shane going to work at some point this past season. 

Edited Friday at 08:59 PM by Salacious Kitty

[FozzyBear]

3 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

And how did she have her phone to snap her bleeding selfie?  I thought she was going to pick it up.  Nah, she was playing greased lightning at Johnny J's house.

Oh my god I have been like Jim Garrison with Shannon’s phone. “Back and to the left. Was it a magic phone?” That photo is my personal Zapruder Film. Someone please explain where the phone was and how Shannon got it back!!!!

[njbchlover]

Well, that was a lot of nonsense!!  

On the catty side - Tamra's face is completely frozen - she can barely move her mouth - no wonder she didn't have too, too much to say.  I don't know if she was completely healed from her laser peel, or what, but it was just painful to watch her try to speak.

Shannon needs to dissolve some of the cheek fillers.  Her mouth is taking on a weird "Joker" like expression.

Emily, also, should lay off the fillers.  She's got a naturally full face, which is actually very pretty, but the fillers are making her eyes disappear.

Jenn should step away from the spray tan gun at least one pass sooner - she looked ridiculous.

Katie, Heather and Gina all looked the best, imo.  Heather's face work is very well done - she has some pretty deep marionette lines and actually looks like her lower face is getting a little jowl-y, but I think that is because she is so thin.  But, she looks natural, unlike Tamra, Shannon and Emily.

Tamra is a nasty piece of work, but so far, she's maintaining her cool and not screaming (will her face break if she screams?).  Her main storyline this season was going after Shannon like a rabid dog, so she accomplished that.

Jenn is pretty and also pretty naive and pretty dumb.  The more she tries to explain away Ryan's situation, the dumber she sounds.

Emily is just being the same "know it all" because she's a "lawyer" she's always been.  I did, however, appreciate her explanation of the Ryan situation and his involvement.  Ryan's got dirty hands, and knew if he didn't own up to the Feds, he would have been facing some charges, as well.  I will never understand why these people go on reality shows, knowing there is something in their lives that is less than lawful.  

Katie lived in her car and a shelter?  Interesting - I wonder how she got back on track and met her current husband.  I'm not interested in what happened to her 10 years ago with some random guy, but I'd love to hear more about her literal "rags to riches" story.

Gina is actually the only one there that is reasonable, logical and seems to be kind to everyone - at least for now.  

As much as I enjoy Shannon and her quirks, I dislike her just as much for her neuroses and poor, pitiful me attitude.  I do think that if she is, as she said, removing the toxic relationships from her life, the first relationship she should remove is the one with Bravo, at least for now.  She needs to work on herself, and doing it with the Bravo spotlight on her is not the correct way.

Heather is boring, haughty and supercilious.  She's not entertaining, at all.  

That's all I got!!  

[UsernameFatigue]

2 hours ago, 65mickey said:

Both Shane and Emily are attorneys. I know that Emily does not practice any more but have they said if Shane is also "retired?" 

I think Shane has always worked. When they moved to California he was working, but not as an attorney. From what I remember it was his mother who insisted he pass the bar in California so he could continue to work as a lawyer. They have shown him coming home from work in at least one scene this year. 

I am really going to be annoyed if Andy (or Emily, since she seems to be co hosting) does not confront Tamra about HER drinking. They certainly have enough scenes of drunk and out of control Tamra, and ones of Eddie trying to rein her in. If she gets away with just saying that she is in therapy to figure out where her anger is coming from I will be angry myself. She was let off way too lightly in part one of this reunion.

[Sweet-tea]

22 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Shannon's face is overfilled, Emily's face is really overfilled, Tamra's face is still swollen from the face lift (this was filmed at least a month ago). 

Shannon went to an outpatient facility according to court documents, and her deal with the DA's office. 

OMG Shannon looked horrible. What the heck happened? She looked good on the regular season. Why did she get so much filler? It looks like most of it is in her upper face, and it's giving her a heavy brow and a caveman look. Maybe she also got cheek implants? Something looks off in the top part of her face. 

Emily has also had too much. It makes her eyes look small. Still, she doesn't look as bad as Shannon to me. I'm hoping Shannon will watch the episode and realize she needs to LAY OFF filler.

I was so distracted by Shannon's face I didn't pick up on a lot else, except this: I don't think we're getting the whole story of Katie's child custody issues. Why was she not able to care for them for 18 months? Why was she without a home? Was there something else going on? Substance abuse? Mental health issues? I don't really like Heather but I agree with her that Katie seems to be hiding a lot. 

Speaking of filler, Jenn could also ease up on the lips. What is wrong with these women? I thought Tamra looked pretty good though. 

 

Edited Saturday at 01:04 AM by Sweet-tea

[Sweet-tea]

22 hours ago, Emmeline said:

If I had to go through life wearing several pairs of spanks I would be cranky constantly.  Shannon is thinner again but still carries a little weight on her abdomen.  

And her face for all the horrible filler! 

22 hours ago, Pi237 said:

And Katie’s story vs the police report-wow. Why would the police say she followed him home if she didn’t?  
 

Yep. Heather won this round. Katie's story didn't add up to me. 

17 hours ago, dancingdreamer said:

Shannon  looked good,

I think she looked awful at the reunion, but she looked great during the regular season. 

[bravofan27]

4 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I thought Emily mentioned Shane going to work at some point this past season. 

He's like a kid. They give him money, but he has to be working or in school (or studying for the bar for 10 years). 

[Wicked]

I think Jenn knows exactly who Ryan is and doesn't care.  She's made her choice

[JAYJAY1979]

13 hours ago, Pi237 said:

I loved when Jenn said “I hear your in-laws fund your whole lifestyle” and Emily sat stunned, never denied it lol. I wouldn’t care except Emily was so nasty about Jenn not being able to afford things, and was constantly making fun of her for it. 

 

 

Jenn is like old school Gretchen or Alexis...cept she pushes back.  She does so when it has impact on the other person

[amarante]

I have no issues with wealthy people supporting their children. That is what rich people do - they set up trust funds because there is no reason not to provide financial support instead of waiting until you die.

Where is is counter-productive is when the kids turn into wastrels. Shane and Emily were lawyers and so would have been capable of supporting their families in an upper class manner without any money from parents.

And the children of some of the richest people all seem to have expectations of going to college. Heather, Sutton, Kyle have children who had expectations of going to college

To me it is quite a bit different than Jenn's situation in which she has no ability to support herself and went from one situation in which she was solely dependent on a husband to another in which the source of funds appears to be shady at the very least.

This is hardly the same has having parents who can subsidize one's lifestyle. 

[swankie]

9 hours ago, 65mickey said:

Both Shane and Emily are attorneys. I know that Emily does not practice any more but have they said if Shane is also "retired?" 

Didn't he not long ago pass the bar after failing a few times or am I getting him mixed up with some other reality show person?  

[Marley]

Idk what Emily is doing but she is ruining any goodwill she had.

i couldn’t even watch the whole reunion it was so fake & dumb I deleted it.

Edited Saturday at 09:23 AM by Marley

[Sweet-tea]

21 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Shannon telling Tamra to stop saying she calls her drunk.. "cause I don't do that" YOU MIGHT NOT TODAY but Shannon stop this playing semantics cause you do call people drunk .. lol girl

 

YOU do call people blitzed you have admitted and they also have admitted it on past seasons and reunions they literately just played Gina on a past season saying you call her blitz drunk .. this is why i don't believe a word of of Shannon's mouth about her and drinking .. you have a history here of doing this shit and are still lying Shannon

Yep and I was giving side eye to Shannon's claims that she is fine. The montage they played of all the reunions where they are talking about Shannon's drinking... wow. It looked like every season since she's been on the show, or most of them. Shannon still seems in denial to me. 

19 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

I couldn't stand Emily constantly telling everyone what they did, what others did, and why. Just correcting everyone, creating narratives, and blah blah blah. She was literally so annoying I could barely stand it. If the next part is just Emily proselytizing I won't watch it.

And how many times is she going to tell us she's an attorney? Sheesh! Enough! It's like 4 degrees Wendy on Potomac. 

[65mickey]

14 hours ago, njbchlover said:

Shannon needs to dissolve some of the cheek fillers.  Her mouth is taking on a weird "Joker" like expression.

That's the first thing that I noticed about her face. Her mouth looks like it was over tightened and now she has the weird joker look. I don't know if it will relax or if this is permanent. If it is she really got a bad facelift. 

[amarante]

7 hours ago, swankie said:

Didn't he not long ago pass the bar after failing a few times or am I getting him mixed up with some other reality show person?  

He practiced law in Utah. That is where he met Emily who was an attorney in the same firm.

They moved to California and parents bought their house across the street.

I don't find extremely wealthy people paying for childre to be objectionable.

My best friend has that kind of wealth from husband's parents. They are both lawyers but salaries wouldn't support their lifestyle. They bought a home for both their daughters in very expensive Los Angeles and the kids live on trust funds but also got law degrees. 

[Carolina Girl]

On 11/8/2024 at 4:45 AM, Mindthinkr said:

I started the reunion, didn’t enjoy what I was seeing and turned it off. Then I worried about what I might be missing, so I tuned back in. I lasted 10 minutes and then was out again. I might be over this show or at least this incarnation. 

Me too.  I think the only one I watch now is Miami.  

[Cosmocrush]

9 hours ago, swankie said:

Didn't he not long ago pass the bar after failing a few times or am I getting him mixed up with some other reality show person?  

Seemed like there was an entire season where Shane was studying to take the California bar exam, leaving Emily mostly in a disgruntled solo parenting role but I don't remember if it was the first time or not. 

[RealHousewife]

13 hours ago, amarante said:

I have no issues with wealthy people supporting their children. That is what rich people do - they set up trust funds because there is no reason not to provide financial support instead of waiting until you die.

Where is is counter-productive is when the kids turn into wastrels. Shane and Emily were lawyers and so would have been capable of supporting their families in an upper class manner without any money from parents.

And the children of some of the richest people all seem to have expectations of going to college. Heather, Sutton, Kyle have children who had expectations of going to college

To me it is quite a bit different than Jenn's situation in which she has no ability to support herself and went from one situation in which she was solely dependent on a husband to another in which the source of funds appears to be shady at the very least.

This is hardly the same has having parents who can subsidize one's lifestyle. 

100% this. I see nothing wrong with rich folks being generous with their kids so long as they aren't spoiled. Emily and Shane are both clearly hard workers who are very educated and would be fine even if they had to dial back their lifestyle without the support of Shane's parents. They are not relying on someone with questionable finances and no backup plan.   

I like Jenn, think some of the others have been unkind, and understand with the way she grew up and getting married and having kids young, maybe she didn't get some of the life experiences and education the others had. My heart goes out to her for the position she is in, and I hope it works out with Ryan for her and her children's sakes, but no, the situations are hardly the same. If I had a friend who married into a wealthy family and could step back from her career and be with her kids, I'd think good for her. If I had a friend who just moved her kids in with and got engaged to a guy with questionable finances, I would be concerned. 

[amarante]

4 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

If I had a friend who married into a wealthy family and could step back from her career and be with her kids, I'd think good for her. If I had a friend who just moved her kids in with and got engaged to a guy with questionable finances, I would be concerned. 

These are my friends wiho are a couple who inherited extreme wealth - like $100 million or so.

They both worked - she has an MBA and he has a law degree but at a certain point it made no sense for her to continue to work when she could be a full time parent. She did a lot of community service type things as well as living her best life.

Her husband continued to work but he was also much more able to pursue his passions for writing without worrying about income stream. 

[RealHousewife]

3 minutes ago, amarante said:

These are my friends wiho are a couple who inherited extreme wealth - like $100 million or so.

They both worked - she has an MBA and he has a law degree but at a certain point it made no sense for her to continue to work when she could be a full time parent. She did a lot of community service type things as well as living her best life.

Her husband continued to work but he was also much more able to pursue his passions for writing without worrying about income stream. 

How wonderful for your friends!

[Palimelon]

Do they live anywhere near one of the cities that has a HW show? Because I can imagine Andy Cohen just got a casting erection and he doesn't know why.

[Cosmocrush]

I understood Jenn's excellent comeback [Well, I read  online your in-laws fund your whole life] to be more about reading crap online and taking it all as fact since that what Emily kept saying, "I read everything online about this case blah blah blah." Still, it did manage to shut Emily up.  Finally.

Speaking of digging up dirt online, how about Heather/Emily?  Sure, maybe it was in the public domain but police reports don't just show up without being searched.   And of course Heather/Emily can't imagine nuances of police bias in an Arkansas (or anywhere really) police report, "Are you saying the police LIED?!!" 🙄

Edited Saturday at 06:51 PM by Cosmocrush

[Pondlass1]

Shannon’s boobs looked like they were right under her chin.  I thought Tamra wore the most comfortable outfit.

The long bleached hair (wigs or extensions or whatever) seem ridiculous on women of this age. Some of them could take years off with a shorter style.  Maybe shoulder length. 

[lasu]

4 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

And of course Heather/Emily can't imagine nuances of police bias in an Arkansas (or anywhere really) police report, "Are you saying the police LIED?!!" 🙄

Makes you question how deep Emily's involvement is with the Innocence Project, that she finds it so inconceivable the police might get something wrong. 

[RealHousewife]

I caught that regarding the police too. It was like Shannon’s talk with Katie’s husband, made me wondered if I heard right!

[bravofan27]

2 hours ago, lasu said:

Makes you question how deep Emily's involvement is with the Innocence Project, that she finds it so inconceivable the police might get something wrong. 

Fantastic statement! Never thought about that, but how awesome. Ryan needs to tell Jenn and Katie to bring that up! LOL. 

I read the same story about Katie and the road rage incident (on the internet). Since Heather is only reading things that are readily googleable (because she doesn't dig for information), there is no way she actually read the police report. She's salty because Katie called her out on her own shadiness, so she's evening the score. 

Regardless of what happened, it was 10 years-ish ago. Katie was a young 20-something mother of three kids, in Atlanta area which people are protective here. If some guy started yelling at her because she was texting, AND she had three small children in the car, I would have become extremely defensive as well. I have lived in Atlanta-- not Marietta but nearish, and generally, men can be the biggest assholes. Some guy with a small penis probably just wanted to pick on a pretty girl and Katie wasn't having it. I say, good for her. If someone really cares about distracted driving, then you wouldn't distract a driver-- especially by screaming and disciplining them on the road. A lot of men in Atlanta are also idiots. 

Edited Sunday at 02:18 AM by bravofan27

[dosodog]

I've watched a lot of housewives reunions in my time and I've seen some pretty awful moments.

What Heather and Emily said and did to Katie, IMO, is the worst display from any of the franchises across the board.

It was disgusting on so many different levels.

[65mickey]

I agree. They kept at her until she finally broke down in tears. Heather must have realized how bad it looked because she went over to Katie as soon as they took a break and told her that she was sorry and her children have not been brought up. 

Edited Sunday at 07:05 PM by 65mickey

[Sweet-tea]

23 hours ago, 65mickey said:

That's the first thing that I noticed about her face. Her mouth looks like it was over tightened and now she has the weird joker look. I don't know if it will relax or if this is permanent. If it is she really got a bad facelift. 

I think it's too much filler because her facelift looked good during the season. You can see the filler in her upper face. It's making her look unnatural, and it's worse when she smiles. She should've left well enough alone. 

[JustbeingReal]

Heather didn't like Noella and treated her bad. Heather is really only afraid of Tamra. Andy doesn't seem to like when Tamra argues with Shannon or Jen I noticed. He even helped them a little. I definitely noticed Jen has been coached. I knew a lot of people like Emily. I'm from the Midwest too. She's like a jealous personality type. Tamra seemed to be looking to Andy to see if he was ok with stuff she was saying. Gina was a horrible friend to Katie. Didn't have her back at all. Jen didn't really have Katie's back either. Katie are you sure you want to come back? I wouldn't. 

[Juneau Gal]

Ronnie and Ben's recap of this episode on their Watch What Crappens podcast is 100% spot on. They absolutely tear Emily and Heather apart and I was totally here for it. Heather in particular once and for all proved herself to be an awful, disgusting human being.

[Dixie Sugarbaker]

Based on what Katie and her daughter have said about her ex, I wonder if the “facility” she was at was a DV shelter. He sounds like an abuser, and it would help explain why she was able to get custody. People forget that a huge component of DV is the mental aspect in which the abuser mentally tears down the victim so they will take the abuse. If true, that makes what Heather and Emily did that more egregious.

[Cosmocrush]

24 minutes ago, Dixie Sugarbaker said:

Based on what Katie and her daughter have said about her ex, I wonder if the “facility” she was at was a DV shelter. He sounds like an abuser, and it would help explain why she was able to get custody. People forget that a huge component of DV is the mental aspect in which the abuser mentally tears down the victim so they will take the abuse. If true, that makes what Heather and Emily did that more egregious.

That occurred to me as well, which would explain why she had three kids in the car with no place to go.  And with no place to go she could lose custody.  As an attorney  Emily should know how these custody cases can swing to trash the mother and take the kids.  Bringing up this 10 year old trauma on TV is probably the most disgusting thing I've seen on this show.  

And don't even start on the "Kids are off limits" thing that they all seem to lose their minds over.  I guess that doesn't apply to Katie's kids.  Emily pounding on Katie for losing custody was so effing gross, I hate her now.   This whole thing was because Katie dared to call Heather out on calling the paparazzi on herself when we all know she did.  They all probably do.  But Emily (and Gina) constantly doing Heather's dirty work is disgusting.  

[ButterQueen]

On 11/9/2024 at 10:22 PM, 65mickey said:

I agree. They kept at her until she finally broke down in tears. Heather must have realized how bad it looked because she went over to Katie as soon as they took a break and told her that she was sorry and her children have not been brought up. 

I would have told Heather to FO.  She always gives fake apologies.  Doesn’t stop her from being a bitch.

[twilightzone]

Heather only did that for optics.  She knew it would make Her look bad.

And let's talk about the husband.  It has been long rumored that Terry Dubrow has cheated.  Kelly Dodd brought it up on the bus in Ireland of him having an affair with his nurse.  The Dubrows threaten to sue if it air and Heather left the show after that.  She was a has-been D-list actress whose so-called career was long over.

I don't think Katie is wrong about someone close to Heather calling the paparazzi.  Terry has said he likes it when they get their pictures taken.

[Juneau Gal]

Whether or not they or an associate called the paps, the DuBrows knew they were being photographed and fashioned that 100% ridiculously unnatural pose. THAT’S what everyone should have been focusing on; the world’s most contrived photo. 

[CrinkleCutCat]

Heather obviously did not pick up the phone to the paparazzi…. Her agent did 🤦‍♀️.

Photographers aren’t lurking at Disneyland waiting to take photos of D-list celebrities! C’mon Heather….you are treating us like idiots.

[bosawks]

Does Katie have a sometime tenuous relationship with the truth, of course she does, she's on this stupid show, who gives a fuck!

Can you imagine how boring these shows would be if they always told the truth.

[MaggieG]

I'm thinking the truth to the story lies somewhere in between what Katie said, what the guy said and what the police said. However as a viewer, I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt because it happened 9, 10 years ago and she herself said she was going through a difficult time. When she said facility, my first thought was a DV shelter. And I'm also wondering if she's not sharing too much about that because her one son still lives with his dad. She's probably trying to protect her kids by not bringing up too much. Emily and Heather digging all that up and Emily digging the knife deeper about custody was an absolute low.

[Palimelon]

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Emily and Heather digging all that up and Emily digging the knife deeper about custody was an absolute low.

Yeah, digging up that a HW called the paparazzi to take her pic at a public place is nowhere near as bad as digging up past custody issues a HW may have had.

[Natalie68]

On 11/9/2024 at 4:30 AM, Sweet-tea said:

Yep and I was giving side eye to Shannon's claims that she is fine. The montage they played of all the reunions where they are talking about Shannon's drinking... wow. It looked like every season since she's been on the show, or most of them. Shannon still seems in denial to me. 

And how many times is she going to tell us she's an attorney? Sheesh! Enough! It's like 4 degrees Wendy on Potomac. 

It has been.  Every single season, every single reunion.  Shannon's story will not end well unless she gets help now.  

[Dr Mama]

8 hours ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

Heather obviously did not pick up the phone to the paparazzi…. Her agent did 🤦‍♀️.

Photographers aren’t lurking at Disneyland waiting to take photos of D-list celebrities! C’mon Heather….you are treating us like idiots.

EXACTLY!! I've seen photos of A-list celebrities taken at Disneyland, and they are usually poorly shot pictures taken by people who just happen to spot the celebrity in the crowd.

I don't think Heather made any calls to set up those pictures, but someone either made calls or did the photos for her.

[Palimelon]

Heather didn't make the calls, but she told *someone* to make the calls. That gives her plausible deniability of sorts. This way, she can say that she didn't call the paparazzi, and she isn't really lying.

[Keywestclubkid]

3 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

It has been.  Every single season, every single reunion.  Shannon's story will not end well unless she gets help now.  

I DONT HAVE A DRINKING PROBLEM.. as they roll the tape of the past NINE years .. from her FIRST season of her having issues with drinking from calling people black out drunk and not remembering it to hitting a freaking HOUSE.. its funny how everyone else sees it but not her .. shes a drunk who doesn't want to accept that .. i have 100% come to loathe this woman

Edited 11 hours ago by Keywestclubkid

[ZettaK]

Jenn is a desperate woman to still want to be with this ugly con. Her justification is that "he talks to her unlike her ex-husband." I guess she doesn't want to admit she made a monumental mistake. And she is like Ryan if she supports him, and attacks the other women about non issues (Emily and Shane supposedly getting financial help from his parents) to divert the attention from the elephant in the room.