Chit-Chat: The Feels

[Affogato]

44 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Christian Nationalist and lead TheoBro Doug Wilson is planting a church in DC.  This is worrisome as his denomination, the CREC, has ties ties to Vance and drunky Pete. Pete actually attended the church plant in Nashville.

Church plant? Is this a factory?

Great Beagle! Quote from article cited above:

As I wrote last year, even in the TheoBros fraternity, Wilson stands out as a firebrand: He has argued that the master-slave dynamic was “a relationship based upon mutual affection and confidence,” called the trope of the dominant man and a submissive woman “an erotic necessity,” and opined that women never should have been given the right to vote. When I asked him about his most provocative statements, he compared himself to a chef who cooks with jalapeño peppers: “Some of my enemies online have combed through my writings, have gathered up all the jalapeños, and put them on one Ritz cracker,” he told me.

Edited Sunday at 03:09 AM by Affogato

[Affogato]

5 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

That bandwagon you talk about is now in print...and proven by one of his own.

Biden created a mess for our country, starting with open borders. You/your party might think we would prosper, but the only people prospering where the people around him, the people who held him up, and the people who were running the country while he slept most of the day.

This I wholeheartedly agree with.

Mostly I meant that you claimed sensitivity about the subject of dementia, except when it served your purpose. 
 

i don’t know what you think was happening with the borders during Biden’s presidency, but you don’t seem to have a grasp on it in a way that can reasonably be discussed. I do understand that wasting huge amounts of money and bypassing the courts is touted by FOX news as a clever way to get things done. But in any case the theater that is being presented now is hugely expensive and wil break the economy, as well as being similar to Hitler’s round up of the jewish people and other groups. 
 

https://apple.news/ASCeYIaUMS_Wkjj4m1YDbLw

Past is prologue: Immigrant crackdowns lead to labor shortages

this is not me being snarky, flat out the truth. 

Edited Sunday at 11:08 AM by Affogato

[BetyBee]

8 hours ago, Affogato said:

My midwestern grandparents were a mixed norwegian/swedish marriage.

Same! Sometimes I wish they'd stayed put, though I wouldn't be me if they had and I wouldn't have had the best grandma in the world. So I guess I'll stay put and see things through. Norway is looking good though, these days!

[DrSpaceman73]

7 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

That bandwagon you talk about is now in print...and proven by one of his own.

Biden created a mess for our country, starting with open borders. You/your party might think we would prosper, but the only people prospering where the people around him, the people who held him up, and the people who were running the country while he slept most of the day.

This I wholeheartedly agree with.

The border problem wasn't created by Biden. It was an issue through multiple presidents going back to the 80s. 

It also wasn't causing huge crime problems as claimed. In fact our crime rates have plummeted since the 90s. 

In regard to age limits, no, but there should be a process in place to challenge and remove any politician,  president or otherwise, thought to have dementia. And Biden shoukd have dropped out much sooner

We know Reagan in his last 4 years was going through the same thing though.  

 

[Mollywolly555]

There is a big difference.

IF Biden was slipping gradually into dementia, at least he had ultra-qualified, experienced staff, and his own well-respected experience and diplomacy to keep the US at the forefront of world politics with the support of allies, as well as adherence to Constitutional law. 

Trump's staff of woefully inexperienced, mendacious Fox pundits (Hegseth, Judge Jeanine, Noem, etc.), and discredited tv scammers (Oz) and outright crazies (Booby, Means), and so many others, all have NO qualifications to be in those critical positions. The serious military mistakes and out of control spending and money grab from Musk and lobbyists by said staff is graft at an unbelievable level..... and only hurts the US world position and citizens.

Trump's dementia is on exhibit daily in his nonsensical, disjointed verbal word salad/weaves and childish revenge politics... and he is in charge now, so crow  about Biden all you want, it's old news. We can't change the past, but for all our sakes, I hope we/the US will survive to have a future. 

I would also argue that naps did not cost the taxpayers $, whereas Trump's frequent golf games, dinners for his own private  investors, trips, etc., are milking the public teat dry.

Edited Sunday at 01:39 PM by Mollywolly555

[Yeah No]

I'm still behind but I saw this video on YT and felt it was worth posting here. Someone asked AI how to stop Trump and this is what it said. The video takes a few minutes to get there but it does and says a lot of things mentioned in this thread including the stuff I've posted about how in order to effect change at the ballot box and prevent Trump-ism and the chaos from spreading we have to concentrate on our shared principles and appeal to everyone, not continue to let ourselves get further divided. And of course, the big issue is apathy, which needs to be addressed. Getting bogged down in differences only increases the conflict and voter apathy.

 

[Absolom]

It appears that Leo is going to be the anti-Trump:

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The pope said during his homily that there's "too much discord, too many wounds caused by hatred, violence, prejudice, the fear of difference, and the economic paradigm that exploits the Earth's resources and marginalizes the poorest."

 

[Blergh]

For those who voted for #45 but say that they don't support/agree with  ALL of #45's policies or actions:

I'm afraid you all are somewhat out of luck.

I mean, virtually every previous President of the United States had been willing to accept if not like dissenting views  if not considered the fact that the United States of America  being a representative republic means that it functions most efficiently if other views or ideas by Justices, Senators, Representatives, Governors, State Representatives,Mayors, Councils and citizens from all political parties and backgrounds are considered by the Executive Branch  if not implemented with the competency and intelligence of others valued above personal egos  to work in tandem in order to benefit as much of the citizenry as possible (yes, I know there were some exceptions  down the centuries but none so blatant as #45)

However , #45 seems to feel that any disagreement much less dissent of even a minute portion of his mandates are personal affronts to him  if not deserving to be punished by the system. Moreover, #45 made no secret of this philosophy from even before the First Term was over much less in the most recent campaign.

Well, as Big Bird put it 'everyone makes mistakes' and I hope the supporters  of #45 who aren't willing to worship #45 over all else are willing to admit that and use that to help make changes for the better for themselves and others.

Edited Sunday at 06:17 PM by Blergh

[Fool to cry]

Seeing Pope Leo XIV when he was young reminds me of character actor Bradford Dillman.

He looked like he should be the guest on a 70s Quinn Martin production.

      

Edited Sunday at 06:10 PM by Fool to cry

[peacheslatour]

11 minutes ago, Fool to cry said:

Seeing Pope Leo XIV when he was young reminds me of character actor Bradford Dillman.

He looked like he should be the guest on a 70s Quinn Martin production.

      

Yes! I can see him as the ADA on something like Mannix or The Rockford Files.

[Annber03]

6 hours ago, JustHereForFood said:

Why is anyone even still talking about Biden? 

Anything to avoid having to acknowledge and address and actually dare to criticize the shit their own guy is doing, I guess.

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

I mean he's a dirty old man talking about the relative "hotness" of a woman young enough to be his granddaughter - so there's the gross factor

And of course, we've all heard the super creepy way in which Trump's talked about his own daughter, which just adds to the ick of it all. 

But yeah, people on the right have gone after Springsteen for years, because they're always so shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you, to learn that he's not conservative. As if the mockery over Reagain using"Born in the U.S.A." as some kind of "RAH RAH 'MURICA!" song didn't clue them in that maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe he's not on their side politically?

People are stupid. 

[tres bien]

Well done Romania!

👊 🇷🇴 🔥

[ProudMary]

Many people died overnight in KY and MO because there were no overnight staffers at the local NWS due to Trump, Musk and DOGE's staffing cuts. No overnight tornado warnings to wake people up and give them a chance to get to a safer space.

It'll be interesting to see what if any federal funding will be available to these states. Missouri's governor is Republican, but Andy Beshear in Kentucky's a Democrat and neither Mitch McConnell nor Rand Paul have been 100% Trump-loyal lately. Each has spoken out and/or voted against a couple of Trump policies. 

At least 18 killed as severe weather lashes Kentucky, and 9 more die elsewhere

https://apnews.com/article/severe-weather-midwest-south-kentucky-a6b8932577b800f996d6963290d3f3d7

The storms hit after the Trump administration massively cut staffing of National Weather Service offices, with outside experts worrying about how it would affect warnings in disasters such as tornadoes. The office in Jackson, Kentucky, which was responsible for the area around London, Kentucky, had a March 2025 vacancy rate of 25%; the Louisville, Kentucky, weather service staff was down 29%; and the St. Louis office was down 16%, according to calculations by weather service employees obtained by The Associated Press. The Louisville office was also without a permanent boss, the meteorologist in charge, as of March, according to the staffing data.

[PRgal]

Biden diagnosed with cancer 

[Eri]

10 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

Many people died overnight in KY and MO because there were no overnight staffers at the local NWS due to Trump, Musk and DOGE's staffing cuts. No overnight tornado warnings to wake people up and give them a chance to get to a safer space.

It'll be interesting to see what if any federal funding will be available to these states. Missouri's governor is Republican, but Andy Beshear in Kentucky's a Democrat and neither Mitch McConnell nor Rand Paul have been 100% Trump-loyal lately. Each has spoken out and/or voted against a couple of Trump policies. 

At least 18 killed as severe weather lashes Kentucky, and 9 more die elsewhere

https://apnews.com/article/severe-weather-midwest-south-kentucky-a6b8932577b800f996d6963290d3f3d7

 

 

I heard about this! During the tornado outbreak, a resident of Somerset, KY had to contact the NWS Weather Forecast Office in Wilmington, OH to report the wedge tornado moving through. Wilmington was then able to contact the WFO in Jackson, KY to provide the verification. Additionally, several tornadoes that should have had their warnings upgraded to Tornado Emergencies were missed. This is the direct result of offices being understaffed as you mentioned.

Awaiting this administration to give their "we'll leave it up to the states" response as usual. I hope these governors and senators have the resources they need to support their communities, especially as federal funding cuts have been impacting their states (as they KNEW it would). It would be great if more folks recognized how important it is to hold their state leaders accountable and consider voting for change to improve the situation for everyone rather than listening to conspiracy theorists on Youtube telling them federal agencies are the devil or govt "waste" 🙄

Edited Sunday at 08:23 PM by Eri

[Lantern7]

10 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I am sure Trump will weigh in in his usual thoughtful and compassionate manner.

Someone will be shooting dust tonight. Ugh.

Of course Taylor Swift isn’t hot right now. She’s resting. If it turns out she’s put into deep freeze, Winter Soldier-style, I wouldn’t be surprised. I think the original timetable was to thaw her out in September at the latest, in time for football season. Her and the real “The Boss” throwing a concert next month as a giant middle finger at Trump? Yes, I would like that. Who wouldn’t?

Edited Sunday at 08:28 PM by Lantern7

[Spartan Girl]

35 minutes ago, PRgal said:

Biden diagnosed with cancer 

Fuck, fuck fuck fuck FUCK!!!

It sounds like they’re optimistic about treatment options, though. Maybe now media can lay off him and that stupid book…oh who am I kidding, they’re going obsess about him more than ever. Fucking vultures.

Edited Sunday at 08:53 PM by Spartan Girl

[Affogato]

33 minutes ago, PRgal said:

Biden diagnosed with cancer 

Being president really takes a toll on anyone who takes the job seriously. 
 

narcs live forever. 

[PRgal]

52 minutes ago, Dimity said:

This is just the beginning.  I hope the Trump voters are happy.  There will be deaths in the coming months because of cuts to vital services across the board.  Safeguards are there for a reason.  They are NOT examples of government waste.  But hey at least the pretend deaths from the pretend fentanol at the border crisis has been resolved.  Go Team Donny.

I am sure Trump will weigh in in his usual thoughtful and compassionate manner.

While waiting I wish  President Biden only the best outcome in this.  Cancer sucks.

It doesn't.  My paternal grandfather died of colon cancer and my dad had treatment for prostate cancer a few years ago.  Doing okay right now.  A great aunt of mine had breast cancer.  And a few doctors called the tumour I had removed last year, cancer, despite it testing benign.  Cancer affects everyone.

[bluegirl147]

49 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said:

Fuck, fuck fuck fuck FUCK!!!

It sounds like they’re optimistic about treatment options, though. Maybe now media can lay off him and that stupid book…oh who am I kidding, they’re going obsess about him more than ever. Fucking vultures.

This will just add to the narrative Biden should have dropped out sooner.   Meanwhile the obese Big Mac lover continues to spew word salads (the only salads he gets close to) and makes less and less sense and the media acts like there is nothing to see here.

Weather is something that affects all of us.  The next tornado or hurricane is not going to care if you voted for Trump or not.  

 

[JustHereForFood]

2 hours ago, tres bien said:

Well done Romania!

👊 🇷🇴 🔥

Some good news at least. Poland also has elections today, but only the first round. Wishing them well, but I'm not very optimistic.

2 hours ago, PRgal said:

Biden diagnosed with cancer 

Damn, how sad. Hasn't he been through enough?

[Bastet]

1 hour ago, Affogato said:

Being president really takes a toll on anyone who takes the job seriously. 

Wanda Sykes has a great bit in her Not Normal special, filmed halfway through Trump's first term:
 

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Here’s another thing that’s not normal. Presidents, they all age while in office, right? They age while in office, because the job is so fucking stressful that it affects you physically. We’ve seen it. Obama: First two years, President Obama went totally gray. He got all droopy in the face. ... George W. Bush: He shrunk four inches. At one point, he was looking like Gollum from The Lord of the Rings. ... Bill Clinton: He grew that bulb on the tip of his nose. What the fuck was that? Bill Clinton looked like the man on the Operation board. But not Trump. Nope. ... Trump hasn’t aged. 

But we have. He is fucking us up. Everybody’s looking older. ... Trump has given me resting “what the fuck?” face. ... I've got crow’s feet, I've got a fucking divot in my forehead. He has cracked black! That’s damn near impossible. ... Two more years, I’m gonna look like Cicely Tyson.  She looks good, but I ain’t ready.

 

Edited Sunday at 10:37 PM by Bastet

[Dimity]

1 hour ago, JustHereForFood said:

Damn, how sad. Hasn't he been through enough?

This is a quote from Obama:

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Michelle and I are thinking of the entire Biden family. Nobody has done more to find breakthrough treatments for cancer in all its forms than Joe, and I am certain he will fight this challenge with his trademark resolve and grace. We pray for a fast and full recovery.

It will be lost on few posting here that Biden, not just in his presidency but throughout his political career, spent considerable time and energy enabling those  seeking new treatments for cancer while Trump has cut, cut and cut some more and is still in the process of breaking the knees of cancer research in the US.

[Kemper]

I hate that I am so cynical, but...states that are having tragic weather events?  I don't think they will receive any assistance from Trump and his current administration. Actually, I think that goes for any state. For most any natural disaster; I hope I am wrong.

I would not be surprised if the rabid Trumpers would still vote for Republicans for President, Congress and Governor. They will never, ever vote for a Democrat or Independent. This is where we are.

 

[Annber03]

29 minutes ago, Kemper said:

I hate that I am so cynical, but...states that are having tragic weather events?  I don't think they will receive any assistance from Trump and his current administration. Actually, I think that goes for any state. For most any natural disaster; I hope I am wrong.

I was thinking about that, too. Will he even bother to tour the devastation? And mind, this stuff is happening in red states. States that voted for him and handed him the election. And now they are going to struggle to recover because Trump's buddy Musk came in and totally fucked everything up for these people, and Trump's continuing to support billionaires instead of investing money into organizations like FEMA, whose very job is to help with this kind of recovery effort. 

But please, Trump supporters, do keep trying to tell us how much he supposedly cares about voters/our country as a whole. *Rolls eyes* 

*Mind, the people in Kentucky have already suffered enough, last thing they really do need is Trump's presence at this point. But still, the fact remains it is a presidential duty, and one that I'm not sure if he'll even bother to fulfill. Or if he does, he won't treat it with the gravitas it deserves. 

[Dimity]

1 minute ago, Annber03 said:

Will he even bother to tour the devastation?

Has he even said anything about it so far?

A meme crossed my FB earlier with the claim that he sent out over  a dozen unhinged posts and then went off to Mar la go to golf but hasn't said anything to that point about the deaths.  True?

[Annber03]

I haven't heard anything thus far, but I also haven't read any of his posts outside of whatever's been shared here. So yeah, if anyone has more details in that regard either way, do share, 'cause I'm curious, too. 

[Anela]

Trump jr. posted something that’s typical of him. He first agreed with a post wishing him a speedy recovery, only to mock Jill Biden for missing it herself.  They keep mocking her for having “Dr” in front of her name. 🙄 he pinned it on his twitter profile, that utter waste of fucking space.  

Edited Monday at 01:49 AM by Anela

[Dimity]

Trump and his crooked sons stole from a children's cancer charity. None of them have an ounce of compassion or integrity.

[annzeepark914]

I haven't seen any statement from Trump about the many deaths & destruction caused by the tornado & am stunned. This is something that all presidents have done. But then, he'd have to add that the federal government is here to help (thanks to him, they aren't...you folks are on your own).

[Dimity]

3 minutes ago, annzeepark914 said:

I haven't seen any statement from Trump about the many deaths & destruction caused by the tornado & am stunned. This is something that all presidents have done. But then, he'd have to add that the federal government is here to help (thanks to him, they aren't...you folks are on your own).

Our PM paused the last day of campaigning in our election to mourn the loss of life in a tragedy in Vancouver. Trump can't even give up a golf game.  Disgusting.

[LexieLily]

Whoever used Trump's TruthSocial today wrote a message in support of Biden, but it wasn't Trump. Normal use of capitalization, wishing Joe well (and actually calling him Joe, not Sleepy or Crooked Joe), etc. The type of message we expect from our leaders. 

[ebk57]

50 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Whoever used Trump's TruthSocial today wrote a message in support of Biden, but it wasn't Trump. Normal use of capitalization, wishing Joe well (and actually calling him Joe, not Sleepy or Crooked Joe), etc. The type of message we expect from our leaders. 

I'm really curious about who wrote that.  No one in his inner circle could possibly write something that ... normal.  No one.

[shapeshifter]

55 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Whoever used Trump's TruthSocial today wrote a message in support of Biden, but it wasn't Trump. Normal use of capitalization, wishing Joe well (and actually calling him Joe, not Sleepy or Crooked Joe), etc. The type of message we expect from our leaders. 

4 minutes ago, ebk57 said:

I'm really curious about who wrote that.  No one in his inner circle could possibly write something that ... normal.  No one.

Yes, I'd like to know too.
If DT becomes incapacitated or flees to the UAE (no extradition treaty with the US), whoever wrote the presidential remarks on Truth Social should replace DT at least temporarily.

 

[annzeepark914]

5 minutes ago, ebk57 said:

I'm really curious about who wrote that.  No one in his inner circle could possibly write something that ... normal.  No one.

Correct. That crowd of jerks could not resist taking a potshot at Biden, even in a message that was supposed to wish him well.

[Dimity]

There have been occasions in the past, I am thinking of his first regime, where statements were issued supposedly from him that seemed normal. Even presidential. Then he opened his mouth...

[LexieLily]

The message from Trump's TruthSocial account:

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Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden’s recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.

(Coped and pasted directly from a Twitter share, no changes from me for punctuation, etc.)

[Lantern7]

Ran across this on Facebook:

Lovely. Simply lovely.

[Soapy Goddess]

9 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

This will just add to the narrative Biden should have dropped out sooner. 

You won't hear that from me and others in my camp. We're happy he didn't drop out sooner. Otherwise we would have been left with the OG of word salads.

7 hours ago, fairffaxx said:

Wouldn't it be ironic if Trumpy were to succumb to cancer himself?  Probably no such luck, but one can dream.

What a disgusting thing to post. Hate all you want, but to wish someone dead? 

 

Edited Monday at 07:24 AM by Soapy Goddess

[Soapy Goddess]

2 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

Ran across this on Facebook:

Lovely. Simply lovely.

Cancer doesn't magically show up one day as STAGE FIVE. With all the doctors surrounding Biden, he had to have known. Jr's statement questioned this...in the same manner as his dementia cover-up. Not exactly an attack, but a simple question I think we'd all like to know.

[MostlyContent]

38 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Cancer doesn't magically show up one day as STAGE FIVE. With all the doctors surrounding Biden, he had to have known. Jr's statement questioned this...in the same manner as his dementia cover-up. Not exactly an attack, but a simple question I think we'd all like to know.

Wait a sec.  

Everyone and their dog knows that Jilly is not a medical Dr.  She achieved her doctorate in education or somesuch. 

Yes, while everyone knows that he had to have been diagnosed far earlier, it was hardly his wife's fault that the news wasn't released (IMO).  So Don Jr was WAY out of line (also IMO).  

Now is not the time for that.  

Edited to add:  I do hold Jill as one of those responsible for a lot of shit that went down.......but not diagnosing a medical problem isn't one of them. Yes, she had to have known, but since when has her main concern been that poor old man? 

 

Edited Monday at 08:09 AM by MostlyContent

[Soapy Goddess]

25 minutes ago, MostlyContent said:

Everyone and their dog knows that Jilly is not a medical Dr.  She achieved her doctorate in education or somesuch. 

Yes, while everyone knows that he had to have been diagnosed far earlier, it was hardly his wife's fault that the news wasn't released (IMO).  So Don Jr was WAY out of line (also IMO).  

Now is not the time for that.  

Edited to add:  I do hold Jill as one of those responsible for a lot of shit that went down.......but not diagnosing a medical problem isn't one of them. Yes, she had to have known, but since when has her main concern been that poor old man? 

I'm not blaming Jill, so please don't put words in my mouth. What I think he meant is that if Biden had been DX'd before the announcement, Jill should have known and maybe made it public sooner rather than at Stage 5. Nothing more, nothing less (IMO).

[MostlyContent]

3 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

I'm not blaming Jill, so please don't put words in my mouth. What I think he meant is that if Biden had been DX'd before the announcement, Jill should have known and maybe made it public sooner rather than at Stage 5. Nothing more, nothing less (IMO).

OOPS!  I didn't mean to put words in your mouth!  I totally agree with the premise.

I edited a few times because .............. I'm hopeless.  And slow.  Watching a WW2 thing on Netflix.  😂

[Soapy Goddess]

5 minutes ago, MostlyContent said:

OOPS!  I didn't mean to put words in your mouth!  I totally agree with the premise.

I edited a few times because .............. I'm hopeless.  And slow.  Watching a WW2 thing on Netflix.  😂

No worries. I've been known to edit a few times myself 😉  Enjoy your movie!

[Dimity]

Given Biden's diagnosis I wonder if Tapper will be backing off promoting his gossipy book and whether it will see a drop in sales. Speculating about Biden's mental health while he's dealing with a confirmed health issue seems a little tacky, to say the least.

[Mollywolly555]

Cancers develop differently in individuals.

Prostate cancer shows up frequently in elderly men and is treatable, depending,  of course, on individual factors. 

My 75 yr old  friend was just diagnosed with esophageal cancer. I read up on it and found that is an aggressive cancer with few symptoms until it has advanced. He had some reflux now and then but nothing concerning, until his colon check, and  then the Dr ran other tests. All in the last 2 months. He will be starting chemo this week. 

OTOH, Trump and his ilk have made several comments/jokes? about wishing/killing certain Dems dead. So hold onto your self-righteous outrage and your own indignant stones. We all live in glass houses these days online. 

[BetyBee]

7 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

Yes, I'd like to know too.
If DT becomes incapacitated or flees to the UAE (no extradition treaty with the US), whoever wrote the presidential remarks on Truth Social should replace DT at least temporarily.

 

I suspect it was Susie Wiles. Sadly Vance is next in line if anything should happen to DJT, which is quite likely given his advanced years and unhealthy lifestyle. Vance appears to be totally onboard with Project 2025, which imo will be the final nail in the coffin of our beloved country. Our reputation is already severely tarnished. Joe really tried to improve things for everyday Americans and he was wildly successful. I admire him and have so much disdain for the lies that are told about him and for the rewriting of American history. 

[Ohiopirate02]

3 minutes ago, BetyBee said:

I suspect it was Susie Wiles. Sadly Vance is next in line if anything should happen to DJT, which is quite likely given his advanced years and unhealthy lifestyle. Vance appears to be totally onboard with Project 2025, which imo will be the final nail in the coffin of our beloved country. Our reputation is already severely tarnished. Joe really tried to improve things for everyday Americans and he was wildly successful. I admire him and have so much disdain for the lies that are told about him and for the rewriting of American history. 

The only silver lining is that Vance does not have the juice to hold MAGA together. Nor does he have that extra quality that Trump has that makes the news networks bend over backwards for him.

[bluegirl147]

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

Given Biden's diagnosis I wonder if Tapper will be backing off promoting his gossipy book and whether it will see a drop in sales. Speculating about Biden's mental health while he's dealing with a confirmed health issue seems a little tacky, to say the least.

I will be shocked if Tapper doesn't use this diagnosis as a way to further publicize his book.

40 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

The only silver lining is that Vance does not have the juice to hold MAGA together. Nor does he have that extra quality that Trump has that makes the news networks bend over backwards for him.

Pretty sure that is why Trump chose him as VP. He didn't want someone who would get better press than him.

54 minutes ago, Mollywolly555 said:

Trump and his ilk have made several comments/jokes? about wishing/killing certain Dems dead

They made jokes about Nancy Pelosi's husband being attacked with a hammer.  They have no empathy or even the bare minimum of common courtesy to anyone not on their team.

6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

And we WILL survive if the hysteria stops. Not everything is bad. People go off the deep end "oh, he's going to end SS" "oh he's going to do this or that"...and all the speculation just causes your own misery. 

Most of what people are concerned about are things Trump or Musk has said they want to do. It's not like people are making things up to be outraged about.  Like immigrants eating pets. 

6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

At least Reagan outwardly appeared okay...and perhaps there was less corruption in his administration that helped him through his tenure.

Less corruption in Reagan's administration?  33 people working for the administration were indicted and 27 of them were convicted. And I would disagree he outwardly appeared OK.

8 hours ago, tres bien said:

The MAGA public is filled with the most ignorant ugly people I hope I never meet

They are working overtime today to rewrite history by blaming President Biden for the COVID shutdown that lead to their inability to say goodbye to their family members and friends that died from and during COVID 

I've said this before but I will remind people there are people who think Obama was responsible for the fucked up federal response to Hurricane Katrina. 

 

5 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I just saw someone  mentioning that the deranged king was madly posting last night that he wants Beyonce and Bono prosecuted. Anyone know why? Other than for being decent people?

He thinks Kamala paid them to endorse her.  He is also mad at Oprah too.  Trump thinks everything is transactional. That if someone does something for someone they must be getting something in return.  Of course that is how he gets people to do things for him.

[DrSpaceman73]

6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

The only sensitivity I have is when Dems try to compare Biden's dementia (he had ALL the outward signs that I witnessed firsthand) to some narrative about Trump, who has no outward signs that I'm aware of. Typical of Dems to parrot everything coming from the right. 

Agree the issue started years before, but Biden did nothing to stop it from the beginning. He should have nipped it in the bud instead of waiting until his last year. But instead, whoever was running the country thought it was okay to allow millions enter our country without the proper documentation.

Totally agree that Biden should have dropped out sooner. But he didn't. His "people" allowed him to flounder.

At least Reagan outwardly appeared okay...and perhaps there was less corruption in his administration that helped him through his tenure.

Reagan appeared ok outwardly because it was easier to hide at the time.  There was no social media and limited tv news networks.

If you wanted rhe border problem stopped in the beginjing that should have happened under Regan.  Saying biden is responsible for not stopoing it in the beginning is just untrue and preposteroys. Claiming Biden was responsible for not stopping a 4 decade old problem is ridiculous.  Trump is 'solving' the problem by ignoring the constitution.  It's not a real solution.  

I dont think trump is demented either. It's even worse.  He is just stupid, looks for easy answers to everything and has no concept of management of complex problems. Plus he is a narcissist and a sociopath.  And i mean that truly, in the clinical sense if the meaning of those terms.  Not just perjoratively accusing him of it.  He easily meets those clinical definitions. 

So you prefer the sociopath to the demented guy.  And continue to defend him. Congrats. 

 

 

22 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I just saw someone  mentioning that the deranged king was madly posting last night that he wants Beyonce and Bono prosecuted. Anyone know why? Other than for being decent people?

Bono isn't even American.  

5 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

I'm not blaming Jill, so please don't put words in my mouth. What I think he meant is that if Biden had been DX'd before the announcement, Jill should have known and maybe made it public sooner rather than at Stage 5. Nothing more, nothing less (IMO).

Why should she or anyone be obligated to make it public or say something about it?  

And no I dont think that is what was meant at all.  Just typical stupid maga ramblings by him.