S18.E.14: High Tea & High Tension

[ZettaK]

Some of the women gather at Heather's doctor's office for mammograms (and ultrasounds). Gina questions Shannon about not inviting Alexis to London. Jenn describes Alexis's reaction, and Shannon reads Alexis's text to her. The women prepare for their London trip.

First aired on 10/10/2024

Edited October 10 by ZettaK

[Stats Queen]

Heather got all those women to get their mammograms and not one of them ask how her’s went.

That is so self-centered and messed up.

[Stats Queen]

My hatred of Tamra is growing exponentially. She’s a trash human being.

[ZettaK]

58 minutes ago, Stats Queen said:

Heather got all those women to get their mammograms and not one of them ask how her’s went.

That is so self-centered and messed up.

They are Housewives through and through.

They also don't have regular mammograms (Shannon said she didn't have one in 10 years), or any ever (Gina), or ignored a lump (Jenn- the doctor said it was from her implants). 

[Salacious Kitty]

Well, Gina is defensible. She's not yet 40. 

[65mickey]

Shannon has always been somewhat of a hypochondriac so it is surprising that she would not be having yearly mammograms. 

Why does Bravo send these women to foreign countries knowing that they are going to do nothing but scream, get drunk, fight and act like asses? 

[Pattycake2]

All those moronic comments about England.  Just how stupid are these women?  Wait.  I think I know that answer.

[ZettaK]

Enough with the terrible English accents. Even the Bravo producer was irritated. 

Katie didn't know "England" is an island!

Shannon changes her stories constantly- from the Jeff Lewis show to the HWs. And there was a promissory note from John she admitted to.

Jenn brought her glam team to London!

Edited October 11 by ZettaK

[FlyingEgret]

Like death and taxes, you can always rely on Tamra to be a bitch...

[bravofan27]

2 hours ago, 65mickey said:

Shannon has always been somewhat of a hypochondriac so it is surprising that she would not be having yearly mammograms. 

Why does Bravo send these women to foreign countries knowing that they are going to do nothing but scream, get drunk, fight and act like asses? 

I just read an interview with Andy Cohen who said the exact reason they pay for the vacations they take is because they KNOW (the producers) that it is going to create a lot of drama because everyone is out of their comfort zone. So it's exactly why they (the show producers) do the vacations-- so they are stranded and have nowhere to go and fight. And they talk to all of the housewives before the vacation to get straight on storylines as well. 

https://realityblurb.com/2024/02/18/andy-cohen-reveals-who-pays-for-real-housewives-cast-trips-number-one-reason-why-potential-housewives-turn-down-contract-who-hed-like-to-cast-on-show/)

 

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/who-really-pays-for-bravos-housewives-trips-locations-chosen.html/

Shannon never told Heather that John heard the accident when it happened. She said 10 days later someone asked her how John couldn't have heard the accident, and she said she didn't know. What Shannon was upset about was that she sent John the picture of her with a bloody face, and he just went to bed. Jeff Lewis asked if she thought John heard the accident and Shannon said she never thought about it. She didn't. Her friend, 10-days later, is the one that brought it up, and she said she didn't know.

Heather is just trying to get on Tamra's good side, IMO. Something had to have happened, I think with the Tres Amigas fall out, and Tamra is pissed as all hell at Shannon. 

Edited October 11 by bravofan27

[dosodog]

 

Vicki getting hit in the head with a football never gets old.

Heather could have easily shared her mammogram results at the clinic. Instead she tries to turn it into "a woe is me, no cares about me" story. 

Wearing Union Jack bucket hats is embarrassing, but screeching to men you don't know that your friend needs to get laid isn't?

 

Edited October 11 by dosodog

[UsernameFatigue]

6 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

I just read an interview with Andy Cohen who said the exact reason they pay for the vacations they take is because they KNOW (the producers) that it is going to create a lot of drama because everyone is out of their comfort zone. So it's exactly why they (the show producers) do the vacations-- so they are stranded and have nowhere to go and fight. And they talk to all of the housewives before the vacation to get straight on storylines as well. 

Shannon never told Heather that John heard the accident when it happened. She said 10 days later someone asked her how John couldn't have heard the accident, and she said she didn't know. What Shannon was upset about was that she sent John the picture of her with a bloody face, and he just went to bed. Jeff Lewis asked if she thought John heard the accident and Shannon said she never thought about it. She didn't. Her friend, 10-days later, is the one that brought it up, and she said she didn't know.

Heather is just trying to get on Tamra's good side, IMO. 

I read that Tamra said, maybe on her podcast with Teddi, that when she returned to the show that she knew she would have to "bring it" in order to be kept. It is just too bad that the producers apparently have given her no one else to "bring it" to except Shannon. The producers apparently do not realize that it is backfiring on Tamra, and in turn, them.

I did love that Shannon brought up Tamra knowing that Alexis did initiate the suit against them. Tamra of course can't stand being confronted about one of her many lies. I am sure that if you added up all the lies told be cast members, Tamra's total would be more than all the others combined. I wish someone would plow that smirk off her face (and I am not a violent person). 

I don't understand what Heather was going on about with regards to what Shannon said about John and her accident. I did think the exact same thing as Shannon did though - leave it to Heather to make it about Heather.

I also loved Heather fudging the numbers she was given about the possibility of her developing breast cancer. The Dr said that she had a 39% chance, not 40%. And that the normal number for her age would be 12%, not 11%. Maybe it is because she only recently found out that a couple of relatives developed breast cancer, but I was surprised that she was surprised. When I turned 40 my mother developed breast cancer, and two years later contracted a second type of breast cancer. I also have dense breasts, and in addition have had two benign lumps removed over the years. So I am at fairly high risk but it is what it is. I get a mammogram every year. And Heather's relative(s) contracting breast cancer is only relevant to her if it is a close relative, like mother or sister. 

I did want to smack Jenn for being so lax in getting her lump checked out. Can the woman not do ANYTHING for herself? Sheesh. She said she didn't want to tell her kids. There would be no need to say anything to the kids unless cancer was detected. I just can't get the warm fuzzies for Jenn because she is a clueless teenager  masquerading as an adult. My apologies to clueless teenagers for comparing them to Jenn. 

Edited October 11 by UsernameFatigue

[pythonite]

59 minutes ago, bravofan27 said:

Jeff Lewis asked if she thought John heard the accident and Shannon said she never thought about it. She didn't. Her friend, 10-days later, is the one that brought it up, and she said she didn't know.

Seemed to me that Jeff Lewis was the friend who told her that. They were rehashing 'the scandal' for his podcast. They are good friends.

btw, Lewis used to despise Heather, I don't know if he still does.

[Chalby]

13 hours ago, ZettaK said:

No delete available 

 

So I did it this way

Edited October 11 by Chalby

[dmeets]

I really thought we had a chance to make it through the season without one of Shannon’s patented “I’m DONE” storm outs. Thanks a lot Tamra.

[dancingdreamer]

4 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

My hatred of Tamra is growing exponentially. She’s a trash human being.

I thought  I was overreacting,  but her smug, trashy looking face makes me so angry. I don't  think  anyone  in that group  likes her. 

I thought Shannon offered  the money, and JJ and his  sidekick said no to it. Or did I dream that. 

I really  think both Shannon  and Jenn heard Heather  say yay, and assumed it was over her results not Gina's. Well done  Heather, getting  those women to have a mammogram,  I did feel sorry for her,  that nobody asked. . Women are still scared to get mammograms, I took my sil, who is petrified. 

That boat ride looked  like fun, Emily enjoyed  it.  I like their hotel as well. 

[Palimelon]

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Katie probably assumed since Scotland borders England, then England can't be an "island". Meanwhile, collectively, the British Isles are islands?

I like Katie overall, but c'mon...both she and her daughter seemed to think England was on the European mainland.

Edited October 11 by Palimelon

[Chatty Cake]

Add me to the list of people that despise Tamra. It’s obvious to me she took Jesus Jugs side to agitate Shannon . There’s no way she can be cool with her after the lawsuit. 
Heather could have simply volunteered her concerns following her mammogram although if the others knew of her family history, they should have asked. 
They can all shut up,about Shannon buying stuff. She offered Johnny Jerkoff the full amount but the asshole won’t take it because he would have to shut up. 
Drunk as Shannon was the night of the accident, it’s not surprising that the details aren’t clear to her. Tamrat and Heather can stop calling her a liar. 

Edited October 11 by Chatty Cake

[CrinkleCutCat]

Heather is that A type personality that Gets.Things.Done. and everyone lets them take charge. However, most people forgot that the Heathers of the world can still be scared and vulnerable, so I really felt for her that no one checked on her after her mammogram. Gina can eff off with her questioning why Heather didn’t mention it sooner. Well… the whole reason Heather was upset was because she didn’t want to bring it up herself. Heather wanted someone to actually *ask her* instead of her having to tell everyone. 
 

🙋‍♀️ I’m one of those Heathers.

[bosawks]

Expecting someone who has a problematic relationship with substances to consistently recount any fact is doomed to frustration.

And speaking of problematic relationships for people who say they are done John and Shannon are sure doing a lot to stay in each other's lives.

Better to be wanted for murder than not be wanted at all, I guess.

[65mickey]

Wasn't this lawsuit a year ago or the first of this year?  I wonder if it has been settled and they just can't say because they built the entire season around a $75.000 lawsuit. 

Gone are the days when we saw Thanksgiving and Christmas parties with the group getting together. No we can't have nice things only dinners out that turn into screaming alcohol fueled rages and Shannon storming off because "she's done."

[Slakkie]

I absolutely adore London. I apologize to all non Americans how crass and disgusting Tamra is. It’s not brining it. It is complete and utter trash. It also seems like Heather has bizarrely hitched her wagon to Tamra which is extremely odd.

who would have thought Gina, Emily and Shannon plus Jen and Katie would be the people I enjoy. Heather’s hatred for Katie and alliance with Tamra is an odd choice.

[SweetieDarling]

5 hours ago, Palimelon said:

I like Katie overall, but c'mon...both she and her daughter seemed to think England was on the European mainland.

I thought it was funny that her daughter knew you could take a train from England to Paris, and then became baffled when she realized England is on an island. She's bad at more than history. It's a shame Jenn wasn't in on that conversation; I'd be interested in her thoughts on the subject

I still think, before any trip, the women should point out where they think the location is on a map. on film for us to enjoy.

Edited October 11 by SweetieDarling

[snarts]

I love London, such a fantastic city, especially if you're a history buff.

It's sad watching Heather so desperately want to be in the right side of gang up that she'll align with Tamrat. 

I do love that Shannon has that text message from 2018. It shows exactly who Alexis is and the lengths Tamrat's wiling go to.

I'll bet that Tamrat has zero actual real-life friends (please do not say Teddi, we all know she'd chuck her under the bus in a heartbeat for a dollar). She deludedly believes that by dragging down everyone around her, she'll somehow look like a winner. When, in actuality, she looks like her creepy lumpy untoned arms. 

Loved Gina's cheat of hiring glam and then copying what they do so you don't need them anymore. Just wish she's do the same with a stylist :)

Edited October 11 by snarts

[thesupremediva1]

Tamra is a disgusting trash human being. What a dumpster fire of a person. She has no business being on this show. Please exchange her for Vicks, stat. 

I'd say I don't know how Eddie stands her... but I do. THOSE rumors are true.

I don't like being exposed to her even through a TV. She's like secondhand cigarette smoke. 

Anyone who thinks that creature is capable of a genuine human emotion, let alone friendship, is utterly delusional. I can only imagine her costars are terrified of her and just want to stay on her "good side" to avoid her vitriol. 

Please, Bravo, STOP giving her a platform to be gross and awful.

I'll take Shannon's drama any day over Tamra's insidious, soulless behavior.

[bravofan27]

8 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

I read that Tamra said, maybe on her podcast with Teddi, that when she returned to the show that she knew she would have to "bring it" in order to be kept. It is just too bad that the producers apparently have given her no one else to "bring it" to except Shannon. The producers apparently do not realize that it is backfiring on Tamra, and in turn, them. 

Every single HW has to "bring it" to be kept. It's sort of the whole show. It's Tamra's decision to go after Shannon relentlessly and make that her bring it storyline. She loves being on this show because it gives her an excuse to be incredibly mean and live out her mean girl popular girl high school best years. LOL. 

She's the worst. 

23 minutes ago, thesupremediva1 said:

 

I'd say I don't know how Eddie stands her... but I do. THOSE rumors are true.

Ya think? He might not be 100% into men, but he definitely plays around, and Tamra absolutely knows it.

[Pi237]

Emily grabbing the desert trays for the room and sheer joy on the boat ride erase all that fake-crying 'you gave me a size 12!!' nonsense.  She'd be the most fun to travel with. She always seems up for anything.

Can we Please stop sexually harassing customer service personnel?! Aren't we evolved now to the point where we realize how disgusting that behavior is? Switch genders and tell me its ok.

Shannon's cute with all her swag, but the hats reminded me of Rusty getting embarrassed on the Eiffel Tower in National Lampoons European Vacation.

[UsernameFatigue]

2 minutes ago, bravofan27 said:

Every single HW has to "bring it" to be kept. It's sort of the whole show. It's Tamra's decision to go after Shannon relentlessly and make that her bring it storyline. She loves being on this show because it gives her an excuse to be incredibly mean and live out her mean girl popular girl high school best years. LOL. 

She's the worst. 

I find it interesting that their are so few posts for this episode, so far. I almost didn't post as I am so tired of the endless nitpicking and fighting. In fact I almost didn't watch the whole episode because I am tired of the mean girl getting away with her actions week after week. I know fighting has been the MO of howives shows since their inception, but either it has gotten worse with no let up, ever, or I am just getting too old to have patience for this crap.

It really does make me wonder what the children (not the young kids of course) of most of these howives think of their mothers' actions and interactions with other cast members. Or are they told it is all just for a storyline and ratings, and as long as the money keeps coming in, do not care? 

[Pi237]

Shannon's 'I'm working on myself' was embarrassing, but Tamra laughing at her was so mean. So nasty. So Tamra.

[UsernameFatigue]

5 hours ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

Heather is that A type personality that Gets.Things.Done. and everyone lets them take charge. However, most people forgot that the Heathers of the world can still be scared and vulnerable, so I really felt for her that no one checked on her after her mammogram. Gina can eff off with her questioning why Heather didn’t mention it sooner. Well… the whole reason Heather was upset was because she didn’t want to bring it up herself. Heather wanted someone to actually *ask her* instead of her having to tell everyone. 
 

🙋‍♀️ I’m one of those Heathers.

You can be an A type personality, and still be an empathetic person. (I am also a A type). Heather's empathy seems to start and end with her children. She says she moved to BH because she found OC to be conservative and closed minded. But Heather, while maybe not conservative and closed minded, is very judgmental and cold.

With regards to Shannon's DUI, she made a snide comment in a TH that no one goes to a bar to order a mocktail. (Just one of many snide comments regarding Shannon). She commented that Emily's size 12 dress that she wore at the fashion show was tight. She commented that Katie's backstory was interesting but that she isn't. I know they all make snide comments, but I find Heather's to be especially mean considering she does not extend to other people the empathy and respect (that they certainly should be given) she expects others to give to her kids. I wonder what her kids think about her coldness and snide comments?

 

Edited October 11 by UsernameFatigue

[Pi237]

Also, have to say, I'm tired of Shannon and her endless tears and yelling and running out and being Done! I'm Done!  Tamra is the worst an Heather's argument about being used was pointless. Of course, Shannon did that one on one with bloody faced photo to draw sympathy, but is it a Lie? Eh, not really and not worth all this drama.

[MaggieG]

11 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

Shannon never told Heather that John heard the accident when it happened. She said 10 days later someone asked her how John couldn't have heard the accident, and she said she didn't know. What Shannon was upset about was that she sent John the picture of her with a bloody face, and he just went to bed. Jeff Lewis asked if she thought John heard the accident and Shannon said she never thought about it. She didn't. Her friend, 10-days later, is the one that brought it up, and she said she didn't know.

Heather is just trying to get on Tamra's good side, IMO. Something had to have happened, I think with the Tres Amigas fall out, and Tamra is pissed as all hell at Shannon. 

Yes! And somehow Tamra is spinning this, making it seem like Shannon was lying. Um how about your lies Tamra? She claimed Ryan said all these horrible things about her on a podcast and they played the clips and Ryan didn't say anything bad really. Tamra is a horrible demon. Tamra spent last season coming for Heather and telling lies, I don't understand Heather hitching her wagon to her.

Also they keep talking about how Shannon should just pay John and why is she buying us expensive gifts when Shannon did offer to pay John! He just wouldn't take it.

I'm going to Londen in Feb and I will not be going on the Thames Rocket lol

Also, points for Gina for going after Shannon and being kind to her

Edited October 11 by MaggieG

[SweetieDarling]

1 hour ago, UsernameFatigue said:

I wonder what her kids think about her coldness and snide comments?

They're the best parents in the world!

-according to Heather and Terry

[Mindthinkr]

1 hour ago, MaggieG said:

I'm going to Londen in Feb and I will not be going on the Thames Rocket lol

I would do that too, but move over as “I don’t want to sit alone”. That was kind of Jenn to get up and give up her seat. They should have left Tamra on the bench alone and bounced her out of the boat. I was not amused at how little they knew about the UK. Before traveling there you would think they looked it up to at least get an idea of the area, customs and history. 
 

lol’d at Heather’s comment about seeing the Crown Jewels. Terry was probably happy she didn’t as she’d get big ideas at what he should buy her next. 
 

I do not find Tamra fun in any way. I’m also tired at all the screaming at meals out when they are probably disturbing other customers. I hope they were put in a room away from the general public. 

[RealHousewife]

Wow, unbelievable Alexis literally texted "we" will sue and has the nerve to play innocent, and Tamra knows the truth too. 

Maybe Shannon does owe John money, but again, these people are treating her horribly. Tamra was friends with Shannon for years, and there is zero loyalty. If she's had enough of Shannon's drama, she still doesn't have to turn on her this way.

[Palimelon]

Not Heather clutching her pearls at "reality show/this is my real life" when she was bitching at her own husband not to get uppity with her in front of the cameras.

[Marley]

I actually felt bad for Heather and the mammogram stuff. She also got some scary news. Gina trying to now use this as some comparison to the Katie stuff is fucking stupid. The appropriate thing for those ladies to do at that point is to just apologize. Like how hard is that lol.

Tamra is an evil bitch. I honestly can barely watch her scenes. She’s disgusting with how she treats ppl & how she gets off on ppls misery.

I know Jen is prob an idiot & Ryan is a douche but them actually going against Tamra makes me like them lol.

I honestly don’t give a fuck about this loan or John or Alexis anymore. It isn’t entertaining & it somehow makes Tamra feel better about herself & like she’s better than ppl. She wants to stomp Shannon down so much it’s sick.

The accents were so stupid. I’m glad the producer told Gina to stop lol.

No to that boat ride. The Thames is dirty as fuck & that boat was splashing around so much lol.

Edited October 11 by Marley

[Carolina Girl]

15 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

My hatred of Tamra is growing exponentially. She’s a trash human being.

I'm starting to wonder if Eddie's coming to that conclusion himself.

 

[Carolina Girl]

6 hours ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

🙋‍♀️ I’m one of those Heathers.

Yes, but there are GOOD Heathers and BAD Heathers.  My sister is probably like you - a GOOD Heather.  

[Palimelon]

Sorry but for me, there will always only be one type of Heather.

[swankie]

12 hours ago, dmeets said:

I really thought we had a chance to make it through the season without one of Shannon’s patented “I’m DONE” storm outs. Thanks a lot Tamra.

She is after all, Shannon "Storms" Beador.  She's just living up to the name.  🤣

[RealHousewife]

41 minutes ago, Carolina Girl said:

I'm starting to wonder if Eddie's coming to that conclusion himself.

I'm generally not the biggest fan of the men on these shows. At the top of my head, Brooks, Tom Girardi, Paul Kemsley, Apollo, Joe Guidice, tiny Joe, Luis, for various reasons, none of them are men I would touch with a 10-foot pole. Eddie comes across so decent. To my knowledge, no lying about cancer, no stealing from orphans and widows, no gross comments about women, etc. WHY TAMRA?! I believe she amps it up for the show, but still. A nice person doesn't treat another human being like that for ratings and checks. 

[Atwood]

I feel like I'm the only person on the internet that has zero sympathy for Shannon. She drove drunk and then pretended that she was walking her dog, who was in the car that she crashed while driving drunk. She obviously guilted her boyfriend at the time into giving her a fairly sizable loan, and no matter how gross he is she is just as gross for weaselling out of paying it back. She should have paid it back before the statute of limitations was coming up and none of this would have become public. I don't feel sorry for her that he had to sue her in order to get the money back, 75k is a lot of money. Even for someone with high income. She's having a tough year because of her own awful decisions and she's going to keep getting drunk and doing dumb shit because everyone enables her. 

Tamra this season is sort of like Ramona was most of time; usually right but her terrible delivery turns people off.  

[bosawks]

I mean Tamra screeching that she doesn't need to follow Shannon to the bar and then production immediately showing Shannon at the bar was funny.

Sad but funny.

[UsernameFatigue]

22 minutes ago, bosawks said:

I mean Tamra screeching that she doesn't need to follow Shannon to the bar and then production immediately showing Shannon at the bar was funny.

Sad but funny.

But Shannon wasn't drinking anything alcoholic, so take that Tamra. And Heather too. 

[Salacious Kitty]

4 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

But Shannon wasn't drinking anything alcoholic, so take that Tamra. And Heather too. 

Shannon ordered a Belvedere and soda at the bar. 

[UsernameFatigue]

6 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Shannon ordered a Belvedere and soda at the bar. 

Ha, I guess as a mostly non drinker and non vodka drinker I should have looked that up. I thought Belvedere was a brand of soda. I guess Tamra is doing all she can to drive Shannon to drink. If I had to be around Tamra I might take it up myself. Obviously Shannon is still struggling, but Tamra is the one who acts like she is plastered most of the time. When will we see her licking feet or spreading herself on this trip I wonder? 

[Carolina Girl]

I got as far as them getting on the boat and stopped watching.

May I ask our intrepid NYC posters something?  When people come to New York from Ireland, England, etc. - do they walk around trying out a Brooklyn or Bronx accent?  Or do they think that maybe bad mimicry is not acceptable?

[Natalie68]

15 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Enough with the terrible English accents. Even the Bravo producer was irritated. 

Katie didn't know "England" is an island!

Shannon changes her stories constantly- from the Jeff Lewis show to the HWs. And there was a promissory note from John she admitted to.

Jenn brought her glam team to London!

Woah. Could she be more tone deaf (or stupid)? Two evictions and she is bringing GLAM? 

13 hours ago, dmeets said:

I really thought we had a chance to make it through the season without one of Shannon’s patented “I’m DONE” storm outs. Thanks a lot Tamra.

I wish she were serious.

[Keywestclubkid]

Shannon and her ever evolving story’s bug me ..

 

side rant :

 

why not just tell John fuck you and release the tape.. IF she honestly told us what happened that night why wouldn’t she just call his bluff and move on? It kills 2 birds with one stone proves he’s a liar and proves her retelling of events is what actually happened I’m really lost here 

Edited October 11 by Keywestclubkid