Spoiler, Speculation and Social Media

[Natalie68]

20 hours ago, laurakaye said:

And I mumble, "shut up, Robyn."

As for Janelle's "grounded" business...again, pure speculation from the Surviving Sister Wives podcast, but they think she's going to go into business with Gabe and Garrison and grow weed.  

Please let us name the strains.  

[vibeology]

1 hour ago, mythoughtis said:

The truth is he is saying this because his feelings are hurt because 1) she supported Christine during her decision to leave and strengthened their friendship after she left 2). She emotionally supports her offspring that he’s mad at and 3) she rejected him.   He’s spouting the same stuff every hurt ex-spouse says. 

This is exactly it. Kody wanted everyone to shun the people who left him and anyone who didn't wasn't loyal and obedient. Janelle stayed close to Christine and even became a better friend so Kody was upset. Then Janelle refused to shun her children and that only made Kody's issues worse. It's why he refused to see the kids for a belated Christmas; they were going to see Christine so he didn't want to see them. It probably also explains why he didn't see Savannah. She didn't disown her own mother so she's as bad as Janelle in his eyes.

I also think it's why Meri was so anti-Christine last season. She thought that playing by Kody's rules might bring them closer. Of course, it never could because Kody is an asshole who was stringing her along for money.

[heatherchandler]

3 hours ago, Sandy W said:

LOL!!! Kody thought of himself as a trophy husband to Janelle who had no regard for his intellect and "humanity".  

 

His pecs!??!  
 

I’m wondering about the coyote pass land, did they ever pay it off?  Wasn’t there a timeline for them?

 

[ginger90]

7 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

did they ever pay it off?

It’s paid off.

[Gramto6]

4 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

It’s paid off.

I wonder whose money paid it off??

[kimaken]

50 minutes ago, Gramto6 said:

55 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

It’s paid off.

I wonder whose money paid it off??

Just a guess -- Janelle and Meri. I wonder if Kody paid anything into that property (ie, from any of his gun show jobs or from selling some of his vehicles)  or if he was only using TLC money that was put into the "fambly pot".

[Gramto6]

2 minutes ago, kimaken said:

Just a guess -- Janelle and Meri. I wonder if Kody paid anything into that property (ie, from any of his gun show jobs or from selling some of his vehicles)  or if he was only using TLC money that was put into the "fambly pot".

Yeah, that is my guess too. That is probably why he was stringing them along as long as he possibly could so the land could be paid off.

[ladyscorpio]

I bet Sobbyn is banking on Janelle and Meri giving up their plots on the land to Kody like Christine did so she can give it to her five kids.

[Gramto6]

16 minutes ago, ladyscorpio said:

I bet Sobbyn is banking on Janelle and Meri giving up their plots on the land to Kody like Christine did so she can give it to her five kids.

I don't think Meri really needs the money, she might just sit and await any judgement (if that were to ever happen) that she deserves a fairer share. Janelle still seems to nurture a hope of building on her lot. I liked her comment..."there is such a thing as a really high fence and I won't have to even see them!". So I think she at this point will also hang onto her piece.

Gawd, yes! I bet that is exactly what Crybrows wants! Give her kids each land to build a house and keep them forever close!  🥲

[NoWhammies]

10 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Clip from the tell nothing:

 

WTF is going on with Kody's face?

[xwordfanatik]

His face looks fuller.  Cheek implants?  

[ladyscorpio]

https://www.realitytea.com/2023/08/17/kody-brown-didnt-prioritize-coyote-pass-sneaky-reason/  According to this, the land was divided into five plots. I saw a picture of it on another site and there were three small plots that had Kody, Meri and Christine named on those ones and there were two larger plots that had Janelle and Sobbyn's name on the bigger ones.  I know Christine sold hers, so I don't know if they made it into four plots now.

[Elizzikra]

1 hour ago, ladyscorpio said:

https://www.realitytea.com/2023/08/17/kody-brown-didnt-prioritize-coyote-pass-sneaky-reason/  According to this, the land was divided into five plots. I saw a picture of it on another site and there were three small plots that had Kody, Meri and Christine named on those ones and there were two larger plots that had Janelle and Sobbyn's name on the bigger ones.  I know Christine sold hers, so I don't know if they made it into four plots now.

I can't follow the "math" of Coyote Pass, or any other Brown financial endeavor, but is it possible that the allocated the lots such that each sister wife would have approximately equal total acreage?

[altopower]

Coyote Pass never made much sense to me but I thought it was originally divided into 4 lots. Weren't they supposed to pay off the loan before it could be re-divided into 5 lots?

[GeorgiaRai]

I thought the redivision of the lots was just a plan in Kody's head so he could have the puddle plot as his man space.  The deeds & tax records still seem to show:  

Kody & Janelle 2.4 acres (assessed value $157k)

Kody & Robyn 2.4 acres ($157k)

Kody, Janelle & Meri 4.4 acres ($260k)

Kody & Robyn (formerly Christine) 5.1 acres ($270k)  

[ginger90]

12 minutes ago, altopower said:

Coyote Pass never made much sense to me but I thought it was originally divided into 4 lots. Weren't they supposed to pay off the loan before it could be re-divided into 5 lots?

Correct, but nothing has changed even though it’s paid off.

Edited November 23, 2023 by ginger90

[NoWhammies]

2 hours ago, xwordfanatik said:

His face looks fuller.  Cheek implants?  

He looks puffy.

[ladyscorpio]

It is confusing to me as well. Herr is the map that shows how it is or was supposed to be divided.

[goofygirl]

Typical Douchecanoe.  Anyone notice he's gotten rid of those noodles up front? 

That forehead is showing! ALL OF IT!

Sobbyn's already crying.

[Absolom]

1 hour ago, ladyscorpio said:

It is confusing to me as well. Herr is the map that shows how it is or was supposed to be divided.

That's Kody's projection for redefining the lot borders.  It hasn't been put into effect with the county after hiring surveyors and officially redoing the property lines, deeds, etc.  

[ginger90]

11 hours ago, ladyscorpio said:

It is confusing to me as well. Herr is the map that shows how it is or was supposed to be divided.

This is what was in Kody’s head. Just like the one big house, it wasn’t going to happen, and Christine is now out of the equation.

[mythoughtis]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

This is what was in Kody’s head. Just like the one big house, it wasn’t going to happen, and Christine is now out of the equation.

Yes, and according to others, the deeds for the 4 actual lots are not recorded solely in the names shown on the image.  

[ginger90]

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[SongbirdHollow]

On 11/20/2023 at 8:28 PM, Orcinus orca said:

I wager she's one of those gullible housfraus who fall for the "this is a collectible and be worth a fortune someday".  There are a zillion Precious Moments "collectibles" on eBay selling for pennies on the dollar.

There’s a lady on TikTok that remakes the figurines using clay and paint and they are great!

[dariafan]

Crybrows wants her 1/4.  Is she going to give the others their 1/4 of the mansion and the other land ????  I’m guessing no 

[goofygirl]

Yep, it seems unfair that she has that mansion (even with a mortgage) AND 1/4 of Coyote Pass too.

[laurakaye]

Not sure where to put this but I wanted to mention the podcast Everyone's Business But Mine.  The host, Kara Berry, recaps SW episodes and her recap of this latest episode (the Picnic Table sob-fest) had me bent over double laughing.  Her impressions of Robyn are just as funny to me as the host of Surviving Sister Wives.  I look forward to both podcasts every week...and I swear, once in awhile I hear a reference on one of the shows that strongly suggests that the hosts read here. :)

[dariafan]

Kootie needs to stop making plans in his noodle head until he talks to someone in planning or something 

[xwordfanatik]

At least Kootie can't claim religious persecution due to polygamy anymore.

 

[Shelbie]

Maybe he can claim medical persecution because he’s living with one kidney since Christine stabbed the other one.

[Gramto6]

 

10 hours ago, laurakaye said:

Not sure where to put this but I wanted to mention the podcast Everyone's Business But Mine.  The host, Kara Berry, recaps SW episodes and her recap of this latest episode (the Picnic Table sob-fest) had me bent over double laughing.  Her impressions of Robyn are just as funny to me as the host of Surviving Sister Wives.  I look forward to both podcasts every week...and I swear, once in awhile I hear a reference on one of the shows that strongly suggests that the hosts read here. :)

@laurakaye I listened to the Kara Berry recap of the last episode, it was hysterical and so spot on! She really does sound just like Crybrows when repeating what Crybrows says!! Thanks for sharing!

I see it said it could be heard on Amazon Prime music w/no commercials. I'll have to check it out. Definitely want to hear her take on the Tell Nothings!

[Meow Mix]

Looks like Janelle and Christine made the rounds of all the tabloid talk shows in one day since they have on the same clothes in all three interviews.  I am not surprised that Janelle is happy being on her own.  She never seemed to need Kody as a husband as much as Christine and Meri did.  I would love to know what finally convinced Christine that Robyn couldn't be trusted.  I agree completely, but would love to know (because I'm nosy) what incident made her come to that conclusion.  She doesn't say that about Meri, simply saying that too much had gone on for them to ever be friends.  I suspect with Meri it had to do with how Meri treated some of the kids.  That was Meri's biggest mistake, taking her frustrations with Kody out on some of the kids.

I really hope David is sincere.  Christine seems really gone over him and her judgement has never been the best, so I hope this doesn't end badly.  I hope he is genuinely good to Truley who has not choice but to live there as well.

[ladyscorpio]

59 minutes ago, Meow Mix said:

 

I really hope David is sincere.  Christine seems really gone over him and her judgement has never been the best, so I hope this doesn't end badly.  I hope he is genuinely good to Truley who has not choice but to live there as well.

I have thought about this before also, I hope David is in it for the right reasons and I hope he is a good person and does care about Christine. I hope he treats her children good.  I don't know anything about him and Christine has only been with Kody, she seems kinda naive when it comes to other men and dating. I don't mean this in a rude way at all I like Christine and I'm so happy that she left Kody and started a new life.  There's alot of users that want to become famous (Sobbyn) and I hope that David is a genuine person. It seemed fast to me how soon she got married, I don't know how long it was for her to get to know him but I hope everything works out for her. She truly deserves love and happiness in her life. 

[Gramto6]

In the brief photos/clips we have seen of Truely and David interacting, Truely seems at ease with him. Even leaning on his knee while she was reading. That gives me a good feeling about him. I haven't seen anything to make me dislike him at this point.

Sure Christine wants to bring him on the show...partly to rub it a bit in Kooter's nose I think. (That part I love!)  David is her husband, with a business of his own, he is part of her life now why not show him on the show? We'll have to see how it plays out if there are further seasons. (Please noooo!)

[Teafortwo]

With the intro of David into the series, and possibly some of his adult kids as well, I can see this going on for two more seasons. With the way they drag everything out, we could have a whole season of just meeting David, dating David, falling in love with David, David meets Truely, David meets Kody, David and Christine buy a house blah blah blah. Someone commented (I forget if it was here or elsewhere) that Mykelti and Christine were wearing mic packs at the twins' first birthday parter (Harry Potter themed). Who knows, maybe we see that in 2025 (Nuts, I know!)

[Absolom]

2 hours ago, Gramto6 said:

We'll have to see how it plays out if there are further seasons. (Please noooo!)

We get at least one more.  Christing and Janelle have mentioned filming it in interviews.

[goofygirl]

6 hours ago, Teafortwo said:

With the intro of David into the series, and possibly some of his adult kids as well, I can see this going on for two more seasons. With the way they drag everything out, we could have a whole season of just meeting David, dating David, falling in love with David, David meets Truely, David meets Kody, David and Christine buy a house blah blah blah. Someone commented (I forget if it was here or elsewhere) that Mykelti and Christine were wearing mic packs at the twins' first birthday parter (Harry Potter themed). Who knows, maybe we see that in 2025 (Nuts, I know!)

Please Lawd, NOOOOOO!!!!

[Tuxcat]

Christine shared that David's daughter encouraged her dad to reach out to Christine. Yes, they knew about her from the show. And he has family  intertwined with the polygamist community. 

She also shared that she put her head on his chest and their "heartbeats synced up" and she "knew" and went wedding dress shopping two weeks later. 

So yes, looks like they are transitioning to the David and Christine show + Janelle with special guest stars Tony and Mykelti.  Isn't this what we always wanted LOL? .

[Orcinus orca]

18 hours ago, Meow Mix said:

I really hope David is sincere.  Christine seems really gone over him and her judgement has never been the best, so I hope this doesn't end badly.

I have had doubts since he suddenly decided to have a presence on Instagram and started showing up all over SM.  Now it looks like he's jumping on the TLC gravy train which lowers my rating by a lot.  Is it to please Christine?  Maybe.  Is it to join the famewhore club?  Maybe.

It seems to me that seeing the damage that has been done to all of the kids in that family, growing up in on this scammy show, that he'd follow Logan's lead and refuse to be part of the circus.  But apparently not.  

Jumping the shark big time.  Just go away.

[Gramto6]

Well, I am willing to give David a chance before labelling him a fame whore. I recall somewhere reading the reason he opened the new Insta account was he wanted to keep his personal, possibly TV life separate from his business persona. Can't blame him for that.

He was Christine's boyfriend and then fiancé then husband. It stands to reason he will be the talk of the internet given the family he married into. And that he would make appearances on the show.  Other spouses of  family members have too, then decided to back off. He may do the same.

Yes, they married quickly, but how many other thousands or even millions of women do too?  She met her "soul mate" and had already missed out on so much life that she went for it right away. Will it last? Who is to say? Are there any guarantees that any marriage will? 

He has children of his own that seem normal and loving, I don't see him "damaging" any of Christine's or other kids in the "fambly" for any reason...unlike their bio dad. We really haven't seen enough of him to know what motivates him very well at all.

As I said, I am going to see how things go, if he turns out to be another loser, it is what it is, but I will reserve judgement until I see evidence of it. YMMV

[Rabbit Hutch]

I'm done with this show.  This season showed Kootie and the Devil's Sensai for the narcissists and frauds they are, Janelle being used by them as an ATM, Meri FINALLY moving on and Christine will soon introduce her new beau.  

I have no interest in following with Meri or Christine, as they're both famewhores in their own ways.  Also, I worry a little about David due to Christine's seemingly overblown interest in Janelle and Kootie's marital demise.  However, that was a while back so hopefully she's got all of that outta her system.

As for Janelle I believe she'll land on her feet, somehow.  She's like the phoenix, always finding a way to rise.  Still, it's not enough to hold my interest.  As far as the kids are concerned, I only like a handful of them, so a once in 5 years special "where are they now?" eppie would be plenty for me.

Frankly, the only reason I hang on is the snark here is so delicious.  I may have watched 4 eppies this year, but I read the snark here every week.

[Orcinus orca]

^^^ x 1000.

I'll read about the "tell nothings" but I frankly can't stomach a single one of them onscreen. Their BS is requiring higher and higher boots to wade through.

[Gramto6]

I think TLC holds tight reins on what can be asked and said on these stupid "Tell Nothings". They want to protect this show's bottom line, and won't let any dirty laundry be aired. 

I'm probably out if there is another season, like @Rabbit Hutch I'll read here and know all I need to know.

[ladyscorpio]

https://www.soapoperaspy.com/2023/sister-wives-kody-brown-is-behind-on-arizona-property-taxes-with-nearly-5k-following-split-from-wives/    According to this article, Kody and Sobbyn want to move back to Vegas and they're struggling to pay taxes on Coyote Pass. I thought the property was paid off in full already? 

[Elizzikra]

Just now, ladyscorpio said:

https://www.soapoperaspy.com/2023/sister-wives-kody-brown-is-behind-on-arizona-property-taxes-with-nearly-5k-following-split-from-wives/    According to this article, Kody and Sobbyn want to move back to Vegas and they're struggling to pay taxes on Coyote Pass. I thought the property was paid off in full already? 

The property may be paid but you pay taxes every year (some people make payments quarterly). 

[ladyscorpio]

1 hour ago, Gramto6 said:

I think TLC holds tight reins on what can be asked and said on these stupid "Tell Nothings". They want to protect this show's bottom line, and won't let any dirty laundry be aired. 

I'm probably out if there is another season, like @Rabbit Hutch I'll read here and know all I need to know.

I agree, I bet Kody has a list of subjects (that Sobbyn handed him) that they will refuse to talk about. It bugs me how Suki coddles them and always shows sympathy to the two people that do NOT deserve it. There's never any real questions asked and it's a waste of time to even watch. It will show Kody and Sobbyn blaming Christine for everything that they can think of, Sobbyn dry crying and convulsing, Kody angry and red faced yelling how he's the victim here and how sweet, shy Sobbyn got mistreated by her evil sister wives. The Tell Nothing needs a different host. They should get Kevin Frazier, he's straight and asks questions viewers want to know and he's very blunt. He wouldn't kiss Kody's ass like Suki does. 

11 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

The property may be paid but you pay taxes every year (some people make payments quarterly). 

I understand that but I thought when they said it was all paid off , that meant taxes and everything for this year. 

[Gramto6]

I guess that was one thing Kodouche didn't factor in when he was grabbing as much of the Coyote Pass land as he could.  How was he going to pay the yearly taxes with his cash cows gone on to much better lives??? Crybrows get a job? Not in this lifetime...so sell out if they can and trot back to LV. I'd laugh out loud and long if they can't sell CP!!

Edited November 26, 2023 by Gramto6
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[ladyscorpio]

I think it's messed up that Kody and Sobbyn uprooted everyone to move to AZ just because Day-un wanted to go to school there. Kody wasn't honest either about the reason why they were moving. He said it was because the housing market had become unaffordable and that Arizona is a cheaper state to live in. He also blamed it on Sin City not being a good place to raise kids. None of the wives and kids wanted to move again. They all had their own homes in the circle and it was good for everyone. The kids had friends and wanted to finish their school there. Kody and Sobbyn made everyone sell their houses, the kids had to start new schools, leave all their friends and relationships behind,  all because Sobbyn has to be near her adult son. That was so unfair to the whole family but what Sobbyn wants, Sobbyn gets. Now that Day-un is done with school, they want to move back to Las Vegas. I remember when Christine wanted to move back to Utah, Sobbyn got mad and told Kody that Arizona was where her bones are going to be buried. 

[Kellyee]

I cannot fathom what they going to discuss for 4 freaking hours on this Tell All. From the sneak peeks we got, I would guess about an hour of actual talking and 3 hours of flashback videos.

And I wish Christine and David well, but I have no desire to watch their relationship, or a Christine\Janelle spinoff, or any more scenes with Mykelti and Tony. I probably won't watch all of next season. This show is so over.

 

[laurakaye]

On 11/26/2023 at 2:23 AM, Tuxcat said:

So yes, looks like they are transitioning to the David and Christine show + Janelle with special guest stars Tony and Mykelti.  Isn't this what we always wanted LOL?

I just need a quick series-ending fade-out scene of Robyn working the french fry machine at McDonald's, crying her eyebrows off, and then I will be perfectly content.

But fear not, fellow snarkers, I will be with this train wreck until the very end.  I haven't invested the last 35 years of my life to this show to walk away now, gosh darn it!  Stuff's getting rill - the wives are dilling with their fillings and basically collectively laughing in Kody's face and I am here for it.