S11.E6 Saw It on the Graham

[hoodooznoodooz]

Sandoval attempts to reconnect with Scheana during a meditation exercise; Brock accuses a friend of spreading a rumor about his marriage; James and Ally announce their new family member to the world; Ariana and Katie embrace their inner bosses.

Edited March 6 by hoodooznoodooz

[Carolina Girl]

Oh my GOD can these drama queens be more insufferable?  I wonder how many people flipped the channel during that ridiculous meditation bullshit session?  

And frankly Sandoval, I totally believe your D-list hench-asshole Billie Lee planted the story that "Brock had hooked up with Rachel."  There isn't any reason for anyone else to try to take the heat off you by directing attention at someone else.  Take all the polygraphs you want - compulsive liars often pass them.

Oh and is there NO limit to the pieces of shit Bravo will write a paycheck to?  You gave that lowlife POS Erika Softcore Porn Jayne her own SHOW?  

 

 

 

[Gharlane]

Quote

"Saw It on the Graham". Sandoval attempts to reconnect with Scheana during a meditation exercise; Brock accuses a friend of spreading a rumor about his marriage; James and Ally announce their new family member to the world; Ariana and Katie embrace their inner bosses.

That description makes it sound a lot more interesting than what I (barely) watched!

• The meditation exercise was a bunch of new-age BS (possibly with a little bad acting thrown in for good measure).
• Brock claims that "Sandoval's team" was spreading rumors about Brock and Raquchel fooling around, so Brock's "team" told his team to cease and desist. What the hell? 
• Ariana and Katie pretend to interview staff for their fake sandwich shop, but a woman I never saw before really did all the work.
• Of course, the mandatory vacation could not end without someone getting into a fight... this time, it was Sandoval and LaLa. 

[choclatechip45]

I don't know how I feel that I agreed with Brock way too much. 

Edited March 6 by choclatechip45

[hoodooznoodooz]

I liked seeing the camera person in the bathroom mirror.

And on the boat!

Edited March 6 by hoodooznoodooz

[princelina]

20 minutes ago, choclatechip45 said:

I don't know how I feel that I agreed with Brock way too much. 

He's a meathead, but nice enough.  I think he is good with these drama queens.  Now he just needs to explain to "Lala" that if she can be a total bitch to anyone, at any time she feels like it, other people might notice it and think she's a bitch. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

Pickle Tie has a job at The Four Seasons Hotel, but he wants to work at a sandwich shop?

Edited March 6 by hoodooznoodooz

[hoodooznoodooz]

Anyone notice Sandoval gesture to “cut,” after Layla and he hugged on the boat?

[hoodooznoodooz]

Schwartz aw-shucks-ing the steward is annoying.

[hoodooznoodooz]

The best thing about this episode is seeing how well Hippie is adjusting and how much he likes people.

 

[ZettaK]

59 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Pickle Tie has a job at The Four Seasons, but he wants to work at a sandwich shop?

He would never do it (bussing, hosting). He only wanted the exposure by appearing on a reality show.

Edited March 6 by ZettaK

[dancingdreamer]

Not me, agreeing  with Brock. Yikes! 

Scheana  seems  more upset , than anyone. Is she hormonal  maybe ? 

Isn't  it going  to be just a small sandwich  shop, why on earth do they need someone  front of house? Arianna  if you can't  tell (Peggy?) you want to interview future staff,  you're going  to have big problems.

[hoodooznoodooz]

“Why can I never have one moment where it can be about me?”

   — Scheana Shay

[hoodooznoodooz]

I was following all of this in the news pretty closely, but never read anything about a Brock/Rachquel hook-up.

[hoodooznoodooz]

They cancelled Scheana’s podcast? And she had no money? Why aren’t these fools investing their Bravo paychecks, or at least depositing them into savings accounts?

[ivygirl]

30 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I was following all of this in the news pretty closely, but never read anything about a Brock/Rachquel hook-up.

There was something about a late-night pizza run and some people said things like “if they are doing a pizza run alone that late, she probably did something with him, too”—there may be more to it but that is what I remember seeing.

[Gharlane]

6 hours ago, Carolina Girl said:

Oh my GOD can these drama queens be more insufferable?  I wonder how many people flipped the channel during that ridiculous meditation bullshit session?  

I zoned out and started checking my email during that ridiculous new age mediation session.

 

6 hours ago, Carolina Girl said:

And frankly Sandoval, I totally believe your D-list hench-asshole Billie Lee planted the story that "Brock had hooked up with Rachel."  There isn't any reason for anyone else to try to take the heat off you by directing attention at someone else.  Take all the polygraphs you want - compulsive liars often pass them.

I was too bored to think about who did that, but yeah, I can totally see Billie Lee doing that for Sandoval. It didn't help that I had forgotten Billie Lee was on this show in the first place. Did Sandoval say something about people talking about them dating?

 

6 hours ago, Carolina Girl said:

Oh and is there NO limit to the pieces of shit Bravo will write a paycheck to?  You gave that lowlife POS Erika Softcore Porn Jayne her own SHOW?  

I barely know who that is, nor care, but that looked like something I would never watch (in addition to the show with Jax and his Hee-Haw Honey).

[Emmeline]

Katie is going to pass on a man because he doesn’t know what Penne is?  I think there are many guys that don’t know that.

Tom isn’t taking responsibility for anything.  He just has a comeback in every situation saying “well you did this to me”.  The bit of reconciliation with LaLa at the end was b/s.

What in the world is the problem with Sheana?  I don’t think she’s really supporting Ariana, this is about some unhealthy feelings she has about Sandoval.  She looks terrible and is way too thin.  She was pouting like a toddler.  I felt sorry for Brock and yes, it’s always about her.

[Chatty Cake]

Ariana won’t be friends with anyone that is friends with Sandoval because she doesn’t want him to have access to her?  The idiot doesn’t remember that she lives with him? 
Why is Sheana crying and sobbing like Sandoval cheated on her?  Brock must be so sick of her. I wonder if he’ll leave this family too? 
I’m really sick of Sandoval apologizing for cheating on his annoying girlfriend with an idiot. He should let it go at this point. The crying and carrying on is getting old.

[Gharlane]

30 minutes ago, Emmeline said:

Katie is going to pass on a man because he doesn’t know what Penne is?

Didn't she describe it as "a noodle"? 

Spaghetti and fettuccini are noodles, penne is shaped like a hollow tube or pipe.

[JenE4]

6 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Pickle Tie has a job at The Four Seasons Hotel, but he wants to work at a sandwich shop?

The Four Seasons doesn’t have a reality show. I think it’s a foregone conclusion that 95% of people in the service industry in LA are trying to break into showbiz. That is mactor pizzazz getting a pickle tie to stand out in his audition (not quite an interview) for a job in a (televised) sandwich shop.

5 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

“Why can I never have one moment where it can be about me?”

   — Scheana Shay

I didn’t just laugh out loud, I actually guffawed. It would have been funnier if said that in front of her 3’ x 2’ photographs of herself. That being said, I did feel for her. Her tears were very genuine. I think she has to realize Ariana isn’t the person who is going to give her empathy in this situation. Talk to your other friends. (Lala was particularly compassionate this episode.) But I guess “Sheash” (that’s suddenly her nickname?) is hoping Ariana will absolve her and say I know you and Tom were friends even before we were friends and be okay with separate friendships.

i don’t think Ariana and Katie are playing this right. I can’t believe we’re 6 episodes in and they’re completely isolated. No one wants to watch you smugly run errands week after week just the two of you. At this point it’s very easy to just lop them off the show. The Ariana good will for being scorned can only last so long—and there has never really been many (any?) Katie stans as far as I can tell from participating on these boards.

Speaking of Katie, her date who has never heard of penne would be perfect for that girl who has never had pasta. She was on for several seasons—including up until last year—and yet I can’t even recall her name or anything about her other than never having tried most basic foods. It was a boy name with y ending . Wait! Was her name Charlie, I think?

[bosawks]

2 hours ago, Emmeline said:

Katie is going to pass on a man because he doesn’t know what Penne is?  I think there are many guys that don’t know that.

I would totally pass on a man who obviously didn't know something and then immediately says "I knew that", those guys are insufferable.

And when I'm defending myself to "friends" about my honesty I immediately point out the fact that there isn't any evidence, yup, I find that makes my claim to honesty much more believable......

[nexxie]

Best part of Scandoval is getting Katie and Ariana off the screen for most of the show.

[snarts]

Scheana is absolutely insufferable. She makes EVERYTHING about her. Her tears are a cry for camera time. I was shocked how Brock spoke the truth until he remembered (or was reminded by his wife) that sticking close to Sandoval keeps them front & center in the season storyline. Watching him then turn around & apologize to Tom was cringey. They're both such obvious grifters. 

Like Stassi& Katie before her, Tom hates Lala because she's immune to his charm/BS and therefore a bitch. It was hilariously hypocritical of him to call her out for hiding things when he was deep in a 6+ month affair.

Hippy seems so calm & happy in the midst of what was likely a chaotic house with cameramen/producers/etc. Sorry, but I don't see an anxious dog prone to biting. Rachel can kick rocks with her rationale for abandoning him.  

Edited March 6 by snarts

[Ss55]

So much needless over the top hysterics, Scheana! Goodness. She looks awful too , whatever she is doing is not agreeing with her. Brock - good luck.

Sandoval looks like a psycho in every scene.

[Carolina Girl]

10 hours ago, Gharlane said:

but a woman I never saw before really did all the work.

I believe that she's the sandwich "chef" - she was in the original "final" episode from last season.

 

16 minutes ago, snarts said:

Scheana is absolutely insufferable. She makes EVERYTHING about her.

OMG when she made that comment "why can't it be about ME for once" I had to hit rewind to make sure I heard that attention whore correctly.  

 

8 hours ago, ZettaK said:

He would never do it (bussing, hosting). He only wanted the exposure by appearing on a reality show.

Nailed it.  And really?  Sandwich shops don't need a formal interview process.  Even the high-end sandwich shops I see around Oakland just have a sign out front that says "we're hiring."  Geez, they're selling fucking SANDWICHES, not recreating the menu at Spago.  

[thesupremediva1]

All of these people are unhinged.

Ariana, you have no business telling everyone else how to feel. You are more than entitled to hate Tom. But to threaten no contact with anyone who associates with him while you cohabitate with him? No one is gonna support that. You're thriving and found a new relationship in 5 minutes. 

Scheana, you are famous for having an affair with Eddie Cibrian. Lala, your claim to fame is cavorting with a married guy and then flipping to tell all women to leave their men. James, you are as big a ho as the rest of them. Ariana, you got with Sandoval while he was with your friend. YES, WHAT TOM DID WAS GROSS, YOU ALL ARE NO BETTER.

A year of pots calling the kettle black is really old. Most of this cast REALLY wants attention and acts like Sandoval cheated on THEM. And they were twice as vicious to Rachel. Amazing to watch these people try to stake out the moral high ground. None of them have an ounce of self-awareness. 

Scheana looked downright terrifying tonight. Brock seems nice enough but she's milking every tiny grievance for all it's worth. I feel bad for their daughter. 

Worth clarifying: Ariana hasn't mandated anyone HATE Tom. She'd simply prefer her friends not interact with him at all. Hate is deep and it's a choice. And telling someone who didn't cheat on you that you have to stop hating them for your own health is kind of the peak of self-indulgence and callousness. It really grossed me out, and that's saying a lot when Sandoval is so allergic to accountability.  

Edited March 6 by thesupremediva1

[politichick]

24 minutes ago, thesupremediva1 said:

All of these people are unhinged.

Ariana, you have no business telling everyone else how to feel. You are more than entitled to hate Tom. But to threaten no contact with anyone who associates with him while you cohabitate with him? No one is gonna support that. You're thriving and found a new relationship in 5 minutes. 

Scheana, you are famous for having an affair with Eddie Cibrian. Lala, your claim to fame is cavorting with a married guy and then flipping to tell all women to leave their men. James, you are as big a ho as the rest of them. Ariana, you got with Sandoval while he was with your friend. YES, WHAT TOM DID WAS GROSS, YOU ALL ARE NO BETTER.

A year of pots calling the kettle black is really old. Most of this cast REALLY wants attention and acts like Sandoval cheated on THEM. And they were twice as vicious to Rachel. Amazing to watch these people try to stake out the moral high ground. None of them have an ounce of self-awareness. 

Scheana looked downright terrifying tonight. Brock seems nice enough but she's milking every tiny grievance for all it's worth. I feel bad for their daughter. 

Worth clarifying: Ariana hasn't mandated anyone HATE Tom. She'd simply prefer her friends not interact with him at all. Hate is deep and it's a choice. And telling someone who didn't cheat on you that you have to stop hating them for your own health is kind of the peak of self-indulgence and callousness. It really grossed me out, and that's saying a lot when Sandoval is so allergic to accountability.  

Kristen and Ariana were not friends.

[Katie W]

8 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

They cancelled Scheana’s podcast? And she had no money? Why aren’t these fools investing their Bravo paychecks, or at least depositing them into savings accounts?

Well maybe Scheana shouldn't be spending her money on dance lessons for a show she wasn't even asked to do! There's a preview for next week where she says she started preparing in case she was asked to DWTS. She is delusional and thinks she actually has talent! At least Ariana went to school for musical theatre and tried to make a go of it prior to moving to LA. I told my husband while Ariana was on DWTS that the only reason Scheana keeps showing up every week was because she wants to be asked to be on the show and she has totally proven me right. 

[Gharlane]

1 hour ago, Carolina Girl said:

I believe that she's the sandwich "chef" - she was in the original "final" episode from last season.

You mean like how Subway hires "Sandwich artists"? 😏

[ivygirl]

Penny was on Next Food Network Star ages ago. She was absolutely obnoxious and insufferable on that show. I was 0% surprised that she was taking over the interview process.

[TattleTeeny]

2 hours ago, snarts said:

Hippy seems so calm & happy in the midst of what was likely a chaotic house with cameramen/producers/etc. Sorry, but I don't see an anxious dog prone to biting. Rachel can kick rocks with her rationale for abandoning him.  

Well, we may not see that in the 5 minutes per week we see him. It's always possible. Or maybe he was anxious and/or has bitten, past tense. Who knows? I just hope that James is taking steps to address anything that may be going on with him so that he can be a happy dog who feels safe always. And again, those big mitts on him and his curly hair -- I love Hippie Graham!

As for Brock, I guess his ideas on what may benefit Scheana are perfectly valid. But is he telling them to her? 

Edited March 6 by TattleTeeny

[Katesus7]

So Scheana and Lala are starting to feel a certain type of way about Ariana at pretty much the exact time she gets cast on Dancing with the Stars?  What a SHOCKING development I never would have seen coming! 

Hippie wandering in for cuddles from Scheana & Lala before wondering back out was my favorite part of a very dumb episode.  

[Stiggs]

I might be in the minority here, but I'd rather watch an hour of sandwich shop interviews than see a minute of Sandoval. He's gross, it's hard watching this shit. Schwartz gives me a disturbed vibe, and Scheana's jealousy and self-centeredness make her not great to watch. I can't believe she actually pondered when anything was going to be about her, lol. I feel like Brock has barely covered simmering hatred for Sandoval but needs the Bravo check so he hasn't killed him. 

I think the only super enjoyable part was when Lala finally was like, "I can't believe I felt sorry for you" and just yelled at Tom. Also Graham is adorable and I swear to god he's making me actually like James - that dog is magic!

I've always wanted to go to Lake Tahoe, and I only got through this episode by enjoying the beautiful scenery. Now I super want to go to Lake Tahoe. :) 

Edited March 6 by Stiggs

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

I find it so amusing to see that EVERYONE on VPR has behavioral issues except for Hippie 

 

[AEJ79]

Scheana is ridiculous. She chose the yoga mat right next to Tom! Set up much? There was an empty mat right next to Allie that she walked over to get to the end mat next to Tom. She could have sat somewhere else but then how would Bravo incorporate all those flashbacks?

Also, she was broke in 2020?! She had been on the show for 7 years at that point! What are you doing with your money? And couldn't your husband get a job?! WTF?!

Edited March 6 by AEJ79

[tvfanatic13]

How is it that James and Ally are my favorites?? And HippieGraham of course. 

The real reason for Sheana's tears (IMO) is that she wants to be friends with Sandoval and is worrying how her ultimate banishment will go down.

[Carolina Girl]

 

2 hours ago, Gharlane said:

You mean like how Subway hires "Sandwich artists"? 😏

 Such an art to be able to cut the bread so it looks like you're getting more stuff that you actually are.  

2 hours ago, Stiggs said:

Now I super want to go to Lake Tahoe. :) 

You will not be disappointed.....

[Vivigirl10]

OMG Scheana, get a frickin' grip.  She is totally insufferable.  You have a child and a husband and a life of your own, go focus on all of that.  Contrary to how you are trying to commandeer this situation, Sandoval cheated on Ariana, not on YOU.  This hysteria is not at all in line with whatever you feel this douchebag has "done" to you.  

6 hours ago, JenE4 said:

I think she has to realize Ariana isn’t the person who is going to give her empathy in this situation. Talk to your other friends.

The fact that she turned to Ariana to console her pain made my jaw drop.  What an absolute self-centered moron.  

Lala is now willing to give Tom grace that he made a mistake and he shouldn't be crucified day in and day out.  Ok, Lala, now let's secretly switch the name Sandoval with the name Rand.....how do you feel now?  Does the sentiment still hold?  Can Ariana tell you to give Rand some grace?  Talk about a hypocrite.  

At this point, I'd be excited to watch a show with just James, Ally and Hippie Graham.  

 

[b2H]

10 hours ago, Emmeline said:

What in the world is the problem with Sheana?  I don’t think she’s really supporting Ariana, this is about some unhealthy feelings she has about Sandoval.  She looks terrible and is way too thin.  She was pouting like a toddler.  I felt sorry for Brock and yes, it’s always about her.

I think she's having serious issues managing her OCD.  Probably needs her med(s) regulated as mood enhancer style drugs really require a good amount of management.  If she's also drinking alcohol (and I don't think she is, but IF she is), the drugs and the booze don't play well together.

I also suspect being away from Summer Moon is not going well for her - this trip was too long for her to be away, when she has serious issues with separation anxiety.

10 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Why is Sheana crying and sobbing like Sandoval cheated on her?  

I recall from the retrospective on the affair that Sandoval was the one person in the group that made her feel welcome.  It's a 15 year friendship that, last season, she felt she needed to termination after all the lies and deceits.  She seems to really be trying to balance it all, but she doesn't have the tools to do it.

Ariana isn't making it easy for anyone, either.  I stand by my earlier position that says she needs to leave LA, go to her boyfriend in NYC and start over.  These dingbats are just going to weigh her down as they continue to re-absorb Sandoval (to their everlasting disappointment in a couple of years when he does this all again).

[b2H]

4 hours ago, TattleTeeny said:

As for Brock, I guess his ideas on what may benefit Scheana are perfectly valid. But is he telling them to her? 

Yes, I believe he is, but her mom and sister and such are telling him, in doing so, that he's not being supportive, which is hogwash.

[Salacious Kitty]

5 hours ago, ivygirl said:

Penny was on Next Food Network Star ages ago. She was absolutely obnoxious and insufferable on that show. I was 0% surprised that she was taking over the interview process.

That was THAT Penny??? She was one of the most hated contestants in the history of that show. 

[chlban]

15 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

“Why can I never have one moment where it can be about me?”

   — Scheana Shay

Seriously. None of these chuckleheads seem to be very self aware but, if Scheana had a sense of humor, I would have thought she was joking.  I am seriously starting to feel sorry for Brock.

[TattleTeeny]

5 hours ago, b2H said:

Yes, I believe he is, but her mom and sister and such are telling him, in doing so, that he's not being supportive, which is hogwash.

He may be supportive. You’re more astute than I am if you can surmise that he is from this show. Neither that display in the bikini store nor the scene when Tori came in convinced me. 

i don’t hate Brock and I don’t love Scheana, and I also don’t think that their marriage looks like it’s about to crash and burn. But he seems sort of clueless to me. 

Edited March 7 by TattleTeeny

[KenyaJ]

2 hours ago, b2H said:

Ariana isn't making it easy for anyone, either.  

Why should Ariana make it easy for her so-called best friend to maintain a friendship with the ex who betrayed her so badly? If Scheana still wants to be friends with Tom, she's perfectly entitled to do that. But Ariana is perfectly entitled to protect her peace and mental health by putting herself at a distance from Tom's friends. Scheana wants Ariana to absolve her of the guilt she feels for caring more about Tom's friendship than Ariana's feelings and Ariana doesn't owe her that at all. 

If someone had told me a year ago I'd be defending Ariana (whom I've never really enjoyed on the show), I wouldn't have believed them. But this season was filmed four months after Scandoval happened and it's wild to me that people, including the cast, are acting like she should be over it and ready to play nice already.

[princelina]

19 hours ago, dancingdreamer said:

Scheana  seems  more upset , than anyone. Is she hormonal  maybe ? 

I think Scheana could do great things for her anxiety if she put the phone down for a few days!

15 hours ago, Gharlane said:

I was too bored to think about who did that, but yeah, I can totally see Billie Lee doing that for Sandoval. It didn't help that I had forgotten Billie Lee was on this show in the first place. Did Sandoval say something about people talking about them dating?Haw Honey).

At the last reunion someone (Schwartz?) pointed out that he thought the reason people talked about them having an "open relationship" is because there was rumors of them fooling around together with Billie Lee.  Then several other cast members said that they had heard the same rumor.

14 hours ago, Gharlane said:

Didn't she describe it as "a noodle"? 

Spaghetti and fettuccini are noodles, penne is shaped like a hollow tube or pipe.

Haha maybe she should stick with guys who CAN'T identify their pasta then! 😂

10 hours ago, Carolina Girl said:

I believe that she's the sandwich "chef" - she was in the original "final" episode from last season.

Nailed it.  And really?  Sandwich shops don't need a formal interview process.  Even the high-end sandwich shops I see around Oakland just have a sign out front that says "we're hiring."  Geez, they're selling fucking SANDWICHES, not recreating the menu at Spago.  

 

9 hours ago, ivygirl said:

Penny was on Next Food Network Star ages ago. She was absolutely obnoxious and insufferable on that show. I was 0% surprised that she was taking over the interview process.

Alright - there we go.  I've been calling this sandwich shop a storyline for 2 years now.  Someone pointed out to me last fall that they wouldn't still be paying employees, yet here's the same old sandwich chef from last year.  And I agree about the interviews - very fake!  Here's my new theory:  the girls hooked up with this Penny; she's the Vanderpump and they are the Toms - maybe minor investors but it's her business and they're giving her lots of free advertising.  I have no proof but will be watching for further clues!

[hoodooznoodooz]

How messed up of Sandoval’s team to plant a rumor about Brock and Rachquel. 

[ivygirl]

7 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

That was THAT Penny??? She was one of the most hated contestants in the history of that show. 

Yep, that Penny! 

3 hours ago, princelina said:

Alright - there we go.  I've been calling this sandwich shop a storyline for 2 years now.  Someone pointed out to me last fall that they wouldn't still be paying employees, yet here's the same old sandwich chef from last year.  And I agree about the interviews - very fake!  Here's my new theory:  the girls hooked up with this Penny; she's the Vanderpump and they are the Toms - maybe minor investors but it's her business and they're giving her lots of free advertising.  I have no proof but will be watching for further clues!

Oooh interesting theory! I do think the shop is real but I will buy that there’s an additional reality connection happening here.

Edited March 7 by ivygirl

[sandwoman]

20 hours ago, Emmeline said:

 I think there are many guys that don’t know that.

Really? not know Penne pasta? I think that's pretty basic on many restaurant menus. And I could totally see after mothering Schwartz for so long, Katie wanting to date men who are more worldly. 

Meanwhile, I've with Ariana. I can't LOOK at Sandoval's face without cringing. His constant whining about how he didn't do anything maliciously. NO RESPONSIBILITY EVER. Don't want to see him jumping off boats and having fun. Bleh.

[hoodooznoodooz]

I think James’s response was the best.

”We never meant to hurt anyone.”

”Yes, but you knew that what you were doing WOULD hurt people.”

Edited March 11 by hoodooznoodooz