S04.E18: Reunion Part 2

[TexasGal]

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In part two, the reunion, Monica breaks down while reflecting on her relationship with her mother; the rift between Angie and Monica grows as they disagree about the unseen events; the group is joined by Mary.

Airdate: 01.16.2024

[QQQQ]

What are the odds Mary never actually makes it to the set and instead hangs out in the dressing room eating fast food?

[SweetieDarling]

Seriously, How do I get Mary's gig? She only comes to events she considers worthy (food), gets away with being opinionated and judgmental, dropping insults like you look inbred, and bobblehead, then hightails it out of there (with a to-go box) when she's had enough of, what she deems, their nonsense.

I want this job!

Edited January 16 by SweetieDarling

[Straycat80]

Here we go part two. Up first Monica and her Mom. And I’m not going to believe anything they say and I’ll bet there was no family in Bermuda either. 

[Stats Queen]

Good lord, Andy seems to love Monica and is helping her with her sentences.

Ugh

[Straycat80]

4 minutes ago, Stats Queen said:

Good lord, Andy seems to love Monica and is helping her with her sentences.

Ugh

IKR? Andy loves the messy housewives. This reunion is mainly about Monica. If she’s on next season I’m not watching. 

[Emmeline]

Monica is a problem for me because I can’t believe a word that comes out of her mouth.

So far this is putting me to sleep.

Edited January 17 by Emmeline

[TexasGal]

I was zoning out once Monica started arguing with everyone.  I have no idea what was just said* and I don’t care enough to listen to it again.  Also, my ears would probably jump off my body and leave the room if I tried.  

*Except, “legally I only used 3 names.”  OK weirdo.

[Baltimore Betty]

We find out Monica was parked in PA while her mother ran off to NYC to pursue her dream career, she says it was TV but what in TV, on camera in what show or was it really porn? Either way she got in front of the camera maybe?

Monica has been selling us how put upon she has been her life and how her mother is so evil, etc...but at some point you have to do better for yourself and behave and not repeat that dysfunction, get help and get off the show.

Silent Mary will be a non starter, I want to say to Bravo, "Wake up bobble head!" If this was a college course she'd have a failing grade, she did not do any of the course work.

Whitney has taken a page out of Mr. T's book and layered on every necklace in her jewelry box.

 

 

 

[Straycat80]

I like that Lisa stood up to Mary while everyone else just sits there and takes her rudeness. Don’t bring her back to this show next season, she brought nothing. 

[Stats Queen]

Mary is just so weird, that conversation with her son’s wife/girlfriend about sex noises.

[Baltimore Betty]

I think Mary had about 12 minutes of screen time this whole season.

Heather was spot on about Mary's house, it was where good taste went to die.

 

[Baltimore Betty]

Mary has three different knife sets in her kitchen and huge glass jars which are empty.

Edited January 17 by Baltimore Betty

[For Cereals]

No idea why Mary is there.  At least someone helped her get her wig together.  She’s just so weird and nasty.

Same thoughts on Monica.  She’s too much of a loose cannon like Brandy.  I can’t believe anything she says and she’s not even messy funny like Mia.  They got the ratings this season but I can’t see her adding much more.

[Stats Queen]

16 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Mary has three different knife sets in her kitchen and huge glass jars which are empty.

The jars are like her head.

[Steph J]

1 hour ago, Stats Queen said:

Good lord, Andy seems to love Monica and is helping her with her sentences.

Ugh

He really does seem enamored with her. Admittedly I sometimes zone out during reunions, but I can't recall another reunion where he did so much handholding with a HW.

[Steph J]

Mary says that she's never said anything mean about Lisa and no one checks her on that when the season started with Lisa reading mean texts that Mary sent her? "You remind me of a witch"? Hello?

I hope this reunion is the last we see of Mary.

[tranquilidade]

Mary and Monica's behavior is despicable.  Both can't ever take accountability for anything bad they do and they constantly play the victim.  Whitney should not take the abuse Mary dishes out and Andy is a disgrace letting her label Whitney as a racist with no explanation other than she  thinks it.  Monica screams over everyone and does not stop talking then claims she hasn't been allowed to speak.  When she cornered she tells people to shut up.  I don't buy into her righteous act.  She is just a vengeful person.  Had she been treated well by Jen Shah I doubt she would have a bad thing to say about her.  This has nothing to do with outing a criminal it is all about revenge.

[princelina]

I kind of figured from the description that this would suck since it's all about Monica and Mary - they're just awful, awful people.  Obviously Bravo can hire Monica and her mom back for another season if they want to, I just don't see how any of the other women can sit down to lunch or whatever they do with her ever again.  Except Meredith, I guess, who BTW looked like she's wearing a breastplate again!  And I forgot Mary blew off her last reunion - I thought there was a rule about housewives who did that being banned?  I want to sue Bravo for making me look at her on my screen!  They should just hand her an Erika Jayne "C" necklace and kick her keister out the door 😡

[tranquilidade]

Where do they find these people?

[princelina]

4 minutes ago, tranquilidade said:

Where do they find these people?

Haha believe it or not they apply and audition! 😂

[Pi237]

Monica can’t keep her lies straight, and is practicing the age old ‘if you cant win the argument, yell over everyone until they give up and stop talking.’  Andy would’ve screamed at her to let the other women talk if she was anyone else. He’s really kissing her ass.  
 

LOVING this Lisa, not caving to Monica or Mary’s tactics, with Angie on the assist. Well done, ladies. 

“how is she racist?”

“Her religion is racist”

”but she’s not Mormon anymore”

”l didn’t say I had anything against the Mormon religion”

WhAt!?!   Mary’s a loon.

 

All of their dresses are ugly. 

[bosawks]

I think we should lock Mary and Monica in a room and film the conversation just to see what happens.

I’m guessing all the oxygen would be sucked out and the room would implode but it would be a heckuva 15 minutes.

[Marley]

Seems like Mary and Monica made a pact to stick together. This isn’t a surprise or anything they are both trash.

Mary and her gross husband are predators.

[Salacious Kitty]

1 hour ago, Marley said:

Seems like Mary and Monica made a pact to stick together. This isn’t a surprise or anything they are both trash.

Mary and her gross husband are predators.

Speaking of Robert Sr., I wonder why he didn't film this season? Not that he would have added anything, but proof he was still in the picture is actually needed with the Cosbys. 

[dancingdreamer]

I sort of get a kick out of Mary, she turns up, presses buttons, and they get riled up. I think  she was saying,  Robert juniors girlfriend,  was overdoing  the bedroom noises. I'm warped, it made me laugh. Nobody  else did tonight, it was as boring  as next season  will probably  be.

Lisa arguing  with Monica, hurt my ears, how is Lisa any better? Mormon religion  isn't rooted  in racism,  she's a brittle nutjob. Jack went to his mission, then to California  to be a bad boy imho, and to get out of that house, away from his mother.  I hope next week is better,  because  listening  to Heather , one more time, about her damn black eye, makes me want to scream!

[ZettaK]

Monica lies, lies, lies until a recording, text, tweet, etc. is produced to expose her. I don't believe anything she says. She also brought her mother on the show for a storyline although she was very aware of their personal issues. She doesn't care to fix them, she only wants to exploit the "relationship" to become famous. She is one of the thirstiest individuals on reality tv. 

She is acting 24/7.

She is a fraud who uses four different names. 

Monica's mother managed to be on tv after all like it was her dream.

Lisa was right. Monica is like her mother.

Meredith is almost as bad as Monica, that's why they support each other. She advised her to sue Angie, and "take her house" because Angie said Meredith is fake in Palm Springs. After she threatened to expose her husband. Monica was wearing the highest platform shoes, and of course she fell down the stairs at Angie's house, and because she always acts in a childish way (the woman suffers from arrested development) she threw one of her shoes at somebody!

What a surprise (not!) Jack Barlow is in California with friends instead of Colombia for his mission.

Why does Mary like Monica? She just met her, and she only filmed a couple of scenes with her. Lack of allies for either one?

Insulting one's house (the decoration) is worse than calling one inbred? Yes, according to Mary.

If Mary wants to find her son is married, ir not, she can check online (this info is public), and not wait until he supposedly shows her the documents. But I guess this way she can ignore reality.

Edited January 17 by ZettaK

[ZettaK]

6 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Speaking of Robert Sr., I wonder why he didn't film this season? Not that he would have added anything, but proof he was still in the picture is actually needed with the Cosbys. 

He avoided being on tv after all the allegations. Mary, as a friend didn't need a storyline, only to film a little bit with other HWs, and get free food.

Edited January 17 by ZettaK

[Baltimore Betty]

The yelling was epic! Andy just sat there, he has shouted for everyone to shut up on other reunions but not this one? Does he think we are entertained by the yelling?

Mary calling Whitney a racist is really rich, Mary said at the first reunion that if she pulls up to a store and there are black youths hanging around she will not get out of her car, another cast member basically said that Mary does not like black people and Mary pretty much agreed so this calling Whitney a racist with no evidence other than she just feels it...Mary's butter has slipped off her biscuit.

Mary telling Angie that this is her first year so shut up with her opinion was really nasty, Angie should have told Mary that at least she showed up to film and didn't bounce (the second she didn't like something someone said) with a to go bag of food.  

Not knowing if her son is married or not is so crazy, Mary had said her son's room is on the other side of the house and she never goes there but now she says she went to his bedroom door and heard sex noises? Also, if one of our kids were married and living in our house without the decency to tell me they were married then freeloaded of us...there would be a get a job/contribute to the household/make dinner sort conversation but with Mary, she does not care? It would make me crazy to have to pay the way for those two kids.

Monica says things about people and tries to walk it back but then there is a recording of it and she still says she never said, what color is the sky in her world?

 

 

 

 

 

[snarts]

What the hell happened that everyone is suddenly tripping over themselves to make nice with Mary? I don't even understand why she's on the reunion when she skipped nearly every event and trip. 

Monica & her Mom are both grifters. While I've a bit of sympathy for how Monica was raised, there comes a point when she has to own who she wants to be as a adult. She likes having her Mom to blame for all the disfunction and is 100% repeating the pattern with her own behavior. She's nasty, vindictive, and emotionally draining to watch, let alone be around.

Please get them both off my screen.

[JenE4]

I predict Monica will be back. Having cast members hate each other is status quo for Bravo. People who refuse to film with others get canned (RIP Jill Zarin). They will keep Mary as the “friend” of both Monica and Meredith, and they might bring on someone else full-time to be Monica’s friend. Considering 6 people were supposedly Reality Von Tease, we got friends to choose from. Hell, I wouldn’t put it over Bravo to make mama LD a full-time cast member, as her initials apparently stand for Lotsa Drama.

[Chatty Cake]

Moanica was so very annoying. I’m tired of listening to her and watching her roll her eyes because she wants to roll over every other cast member. She’s pure trash. Mary is trashy as well. Grandpa Fucker and Brother in Law Fucker can LEAVE.

Whitney was also annoying. I don’t want to hear her go on about her trauma. Now she’s suggesting that her dad did something abusive?  I think she wants to be an abuse victim for attention and camera time. I don’t think she wants to help anyone.

[J80134]

11 hours ago, bosawks said:

I think we should lock Mary and Monica in a room and film the conversation just to see what happens.

I’m guessing all the oxygen would be sucked out and the room would implode but it would be a heckuva 15 

Come on Cohaagan! Give these people air!

[sugarbaker design]

2 hours ago, JenE4 said:

I predict Monica will be back.

Of course she will!  Every show needs a villain.  I do agree that the show will have to recruit an ally (friend of) for her because the whole cast will probably try to not film with her.

[Baltimore Betty]

48 minutes ago, sugarbaker design said:

Every show needs a villain.

[MaggieG]

By Mary's logic, Heather should also be racist because she was also in the Mormon church. First she tells Angie to be quiet, this is your first year then they point out that Angie as actually complimenting her (why??) and then she says she likes her. And she still doesn't know if her son is married?? I can't with this woman.

Monica talks over everyone then goes into victim mode and speaks softly when she speaks about her mother. I don't believe a word she says.

Good start for Angie when she went against Monica. I laughed when she said "I'm good with children, I can handle Monica."

[Baltimore Betty]

9 minutes ago, MaggieG said:

And she still doesn't know if her son is married??

It is strange seeing she is a pastor, church lady, prig, etc...if her son is married she should want to see the marriage license before anymore sexy time goes on, she is a hypocrite if she lets that happen under her roof thus proving how she is not so much in to religion as she is in to the money it produced.  

[Natalie68]

10 hours ago, dancingdreamer said:

I sort of get a kick out of Mary, she turns up, presses buttons, and they get riled up. I think  she was saying,  Robert juniors girlfriend,  was overdoing  the bedroom noises. I'm warped, it made me laugh. Nobody  else did tonight, it was as boring  as next season  will probably  be.

Lisa arguing  with Monica, hurt my ears, how is Lisa any better? Mormon religion  isn't rooted  in racism,  she's a brittle nutjob. Jack went to his mission, then to California  to be a bad boy imho, and to get out of that house, away from his mother.  I hope next week is better,  because  listening  to Heather , one more time, about her damn black eye, makes me want to scream!

The Jack thing.  I used to manage the student ID's at our school.  Douchebags sent in pics like he did for his visa thinking it was cool.  Lisa laughing about it tells me what I need to know about these fools.  He wasted a lot of people's time.

[RealHousewife]

6 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Mary calling Whitney a racist is really rich, Mary said at the first reunion that if she pulls up to a store and there are black youths hanging around she will not get out of her car, another cast member basically said that Mary does not like black people and Mary pretty much agreed so this calling Whitney a racist with no evidence other than she just feels it...Mary's butter has slipped off her biscuit.

I thought all of that was low, even for Mary. Whitney handled it well. 

 

[ZettaK]

4 hours ago, JenE4 said:

I predict Monica will be back. Having cast members hate each other is status quo for Bravo. People who refuse to film with others get canned (RIP Jill Zarin). They will keep Mary as the “friend” of both Monica and Meredith, and they might bring on someone else full-time to be Monica’s friend. Considering 6 people were supposedly Reality Von Tease, we got friends to choose from. Hell, I wouldn’t put it over Bravo to make mama LD a full-time cast member, as her initials apparently stand for Lotsa Drama.

Monica is definitely returning. Bravo loves her, and the season became iconic (I can't believe I'm using the term for a HW show). The other HWs can protest against filming with her but it won't help. 

42 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

The Jack thing.  I used to manage the student ID's at our school.  Douchebags sent in pics like he did for his visa thinking it was cool.  Lisa laughing about it tells me what I need to know about these fools.  He wasted a lot of people's time.

Jack was posing as a successful businessman a few years ago, at 15 or 16, saying he wouldn't need to attend college, I guess because he knew everything that was supposed to know already. It's Lisa's fault he is so entitled.

[Keywestclubkid]

Monica will not accept her part in the fucked up relationship as an adult she has with her mother (it takes two sweetheart you arnt blameless in the disfunction) she just lies like she breaths 

 

 

Mary found her way out of her closet and sorry to me is a huge dud .. 

[ZettaK]

4 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Whitney was also annoying. I don’t want to hear her go on about her trauma. Now she’s suggesting that her dad did something abusive?  I think she wants to be an abuse victim for attention and camera time. I don’t think she wants to help anyone.

I think that's what she implied.

[snarts]

3 minutes ago, ZettaK said:

Monica is definitely returning. Bravo loves her, and the season became iconic (I can't believe I'm using the term for a HW show). The other HWs can protest against filming with her but it won't help. 

100% If they were smart, rather than publicly comment that they won't film with her, they should have agreed privately to attack her every word/move and sell negative stories about her to the press to force her off the show.

Example: RHOBH fab force five vs. LVP, Denise Richards, Kathy Hilton (Rinna being collateral damage)

[Twiz44]

As I watched last night I had to check the episode date because it seemed like I heard all of this last week. I also realized that I really don’t like or find any of these women amusing or interesting. I was impressed with Whitney’s quiet demeanor and restraint. Can’t stand Meredith’s voice, although she was pretty quiet, too. Lisa apparently has elevated herself to Supreme SLC Housewife.  Her speech patterns bug me, too. Angie, meh. Too much hair and boobage. Monica …what can I say that hasn’t already been said. And Mary, at least she doesn’t shriek. I do want to hear what Heather has to share about the black eye although it will probably be a whole lot of nothing.

I'm probably no longer the demographic that Bravo is catering to. I liked seeing house porn, fashion, vacations, personal drama. Drunken screaming matches (or Vicki and the “family van”) just don’t do it for me.

[princelina]

7 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

if one of our kids were married and living in our house without the decency to tell me they were married then freeloaded of us...there would be a get a job/contribute to the household/make dinner sort conversation but with Mary, she does not care? It would make me crazy to have to pay the way for those two kids.

That's what her "congregation" is for!!

5 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Whitney was also annoying. I don’t want to hear her go on about her trauma. Now she’s suggesting that her dad did something abusive?  I think she wants to be an abuse victim for attention and camera time. I don’t think she wants to help anyone.

He was on the first season or 2 - an addict and a grifter who shows up to play nice when he wants money.  I think that's what she means by calling him toxic in her life.

[Pi237]

Heather's black eye story better not be some stupid 'she elbowed me by accident' after milking that cow for two seasons and insinuating the worst. But No doubt, she'll 'cry' and pause and make soap opera worthy proclamations about Riding & Dying, and it'll be a big nothing burger. 

[Salacious Kitty]

7 minutes ago, princelina said:

That's what her "congregation" is for!!

I think Mary's church (or what's left of it) wasn't mentioned by design. I bet that was a stipulation for Mary to return. 

[amarante]

It is extremely strange that Monica's mother went to New York to break into television.

No talent wannabes go to Los Angeles to break into television.

While there are shows that are shot in New York - i.e. Law & Order for example in all its permutations, they cast for the most part from the very strong pool of theatrical actors - i.e. actual talented actors - versus Los Angeles which where the best looking high school graduate from a small town can eke out a small career (if lucky) in minor roles based on their looks

[Baltimore Betty]

17 minutes ago, amarante said:

It is extremely strange that Monica's mother went to New York to break into television.

I still think that "TV," is a euphemism for prison in Connecticut.

[luckyroll3]

8 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Monica says things about people and tries to walk it back but then there is a recording of it and she still says she never said, what color is the sky in her world?

I don't know that I've seen Monica try to walk things back. She seems to willingly lean into ALL the shit and admit everything because it secures her camera time. When I heard the recoding, before Monica started defending herself I said out loud to myself it sounds like she's talking about someone else and wants to DM Mary to tell her what was said. It's very telling that they cut off what led up to that convo. So as much as I think Monica is a shitty person, I don't believe she's lying about that.  

6 hours ago, JenE4 said:

I predict Monica will be back. Having cast members hate each other is status quo for Bravo. People who refuse to film with others get canned (RIP Jill Zarin). They will keep Mary as the “friend” of both Monica and Meredith, and they might bring on someone else full-time to be Monica’s friend. Considering 6 people were supposedly Reality Von Tease, we got friends to choose from. Hell, I wouldn’t put it over Bravo to make mama LD a full-time cast member, as her initials apparently stand for Lotsa Drama.

Monica will definitely be back. Andy is literally salivating over everything Monica-related, from her being the secret instagrammer, her affair with her brother-in-law, and the toxic relationship with her mother (and we know Andy loves a crazy mom-of). This is how I imagined Andy was every time the advanced screeners came across his desk: