What Are We Currently Reading?

[Rushmoras]

So, completed today James Clavell's Tai-Pan: Book One. It ended on a weird BDSM-esque-domestic-violence-esque note, which, yeah...

Spoiler

So, Dirk Struan's concubine Mei-Mei wanted to surprise him with, um, some European fashion for the beauty pageant. But, when Dirk saw her wearing European clothes, he was shocked, because he did not think that they suit her at all. So, Mei-Mei became hysterical, thinking that she lost "face", and, uh, wanted to kill herself. Dirk, kinda talked her out of it, and left the servants to take care of her. So, in the morning, he comes back to her, and Mei-Mei is begging Dirk to sell her, because she lost "face" and "shamed" him, and again is becoming hysterical.

So, Dirk, from being afraid that she might again try hurting herself, decides to act "Chinese", and, uh, administers some corporal punishment on her buttocks in order for her to gain "face" again...

Yeah... I mean, it is one way to end your first volume...

[Spartan Girl]

5 hours ago, Browncoat said:

 

I've started reading James, and was about to quit* and throw it across the room at Chapter 9, when they were "baling water" out of the canoe -- repeatedly.  I don't believe it was a deliberate error, and I can't believe that Mr. Everett doesn't know the difference between baling and bailing. so I'm mad at his editors and proofreaders.  Such an easy error to fix!  

 

I didn’t catch that, but be seen plenty of typos in published books before.

[EtheltoTillie]

23 hours ago, Mona Lisa said:

I just got From Sarah to Sydney from the library.  It's a biography of Sydney Taylor, best known as the author of the All in the Family books.  So far it's been interesting but pretty depressing.

I loved those books. I’m going to get this bio posthaste!  

[EtheltoTillie]

Success!  Just downloaded from the library. 

[Ohiopirate02]

On 4/18/2024 at 2:25 PM, blackwing said:

Thanks for posting this!  I am looking forward to it.  I hope they don't screw it up.  I remember so looking forward to "Three Pines" and the adaptation of the book series was fairly abysmal.

I just finished reading C.J. Sansom's Tombland.  I enjoyed it overall, even if I thought it was a bit too long.  While I appreciate historical detail, I do feel like some of the details about Kett's Rebellion could have been shortened.

I know that Sansom has had some health issues.  But on the internet there is a description of an upcoming book 8, Ratcliff, and a small summary.  I can't find any further information or whether this book is still in progress or if his health issues have precluded it.

 

I also just finished Peril at the Exposition by Nev March.  This is book 2 in a series that started with "Murder in Old Bombay".  This time, the couple Jim and Diana have gotten married and moved to America.  They were in Boston when Jim (who is working as a spy/operative/detective or something) gets sent to Chicago to investigate the disappearance of another agent and the death of a Pinkerton detective.  The 1893 World's Columbian Exposition is occuring there.  Jim disappears and Diana goes to find him.

I absolutely hated the first book in this series.  HATED.  It was too much romance and too little mystery.  This book wasn't quite so hateable, but I found it particularly boring.  For a book with its setting as the 1893 Chicago World's Fair, I was amazed at how little of the fair was incorporated.  Characters visit briefly and there are throwaway descriptions, but that's about it.

I really thought this book was going to be a mystery set during the World's Fair and that we would get lots of descriptions of the various booths and exhibits.  Instead, the book seemed to mainly be about an anarchist plot involving bombs that just happened to have the fair in the background.  Really disappointing.  The book was also way too long and could have used an editor.  

The third book in this series is set on a cruise ship.  I really want to read it and like it but given the track record of this author, I am prepared to be disappointed.

It's James Patterson, I doubt he had anything to do with this book besides put his name on it and take a large percentage of the actual author's profits.  I'm kind of over James Patterson and his claim that he is the "World's Most Popular Storyteller" when he doesn't write 95% of the books that he takes credit for.  The co-author writes the entire book and yet he gets top billing.

Why pretend?  Why can't he have his own pubishing house where the authors publish the books as the sole author but they are from "the James Patterson Publishing House".  Like a stamp of approval by him, like Oprah's Book Club or Reese's club or whatever.  It just kind of disgusts me how he takes credit for all these books that he doesn't write.

I do have to defend James here as a librarian.  Some of the titles with co-authors are part of on-going series where James did write the first few books.  If the books were to be published under the co-author's name only, then they would get shelved by that author's last name, and we would end up with a series split on multiple shelves across the fiction section.  It is easier for us and our patrons for all of the books to be in the James Patterson section.  I know the cataloging software my library uses does link books in a series on the public facing part, but not all software does this.  It would be hell for the library staff to have to keep a list of all the co-authors for each James Patterson series to help patrons find the next book.  

It isn't necessarily done because James Patterson is taking credit for books he didn't write, but for the ease of people finding the next book in a series.  There are a lot of dead authors who's series still continue that are published under the dead author's name for the same reason.  Stuart Woods, Vince Flynn, Clive Cussler, Robert B. Parker, Robert Jordan, J.R.R. Tolkien, Frank Herbert, etc.  

[BlackberryJam]

Books I’ve read lately:

What Happened to Nina? By Dervia McTiernan. I have some feelings about this, but I’m not sure I enjoyed it. A bit of a condemnation of wealth, the use of social media, and true crime obsessions laid over a boring murder.

Amina Akhtar books. Kismet. Not a cozy. Very weird. Multiple POVs, including the POV of a flock of ravens. So…weird. But in a good way. Enjoyed it and recommend. There is another, Almost Surely Dead, not a sequel, which really leans into the obsession with true crime, but I didn’t feel like the ending resolved that. 

Family Reservations by Liz Palmer. An interesting book about family dynamics and horrible parenting. Three daughters of a super successful chef who have always been pitted against each other. There are a couple characters in the beginning that I wanted more of, and they just got dropped. This is one of those books where I can’t recall any male characters, which is kind of nice.

A Season of Monstrous Conceptions by Lina Rather. I love this author. I guess this book is queer, feminist, historical, science fiction. Maybe? Main character is a midwife in training. Many women are giving birth to children with tails and other “deformities.” 

 

[Rushmoras]

I know that some months ago I wrote here that I will not be reading any more Lev Tolstoj War and Peace, but decided to upen-up Volume 2, and, I don't know, either because I found James Clavell's Tai-Pan to be not what I hoped it to be or maybe because so far Volume 2 is superior to Volume 1, but I like it. So, I read so far only 43 pages (or 6 chapters of the first parter of Volume 2): the Battle of Austerlitz is over, and the Russian nobles come back to Moscow.

Spoiler

One of those nobles are Nikolaj Rostov, and his family is happy to see him; they later-on throw a small shindig at an English Club, wherein they discuss why Russia lost the battle. And, during that small party, Pjer, who has been unhappily married to some Dutchess (IMO, he's gay the way he's being portrayed) decides to challenge to a duel a renowned duelist named Dolochov, whom he suspects of having an affair with his wife. Everyone is like: "What is he, an idiot?", but they go along with it thinking that when the day of the duel comes, Pjer will simply apologize for his outburst, but that does not happen. So, Pjer, I assume, has a death-wish, but as luck would have it, actually suceeds in wounding Dolochov. And everyone is like: "Woah, what the fuck". So, in the end of the chapter, Pjer's wife starts to fuck with his mind and annoy him to a point that Pjer looses his temper, shouts at her and forces her out of their home, and in the end they divorce, and Pjer goes back to Saint Petersburg...

That's what happened in the first 6 chapters lol.

[krankydoodle]

I just finished the latest Harbinder Kaur mystery by Elly Griffiths, The Last Word. I gave up on the first book in the series, though I can't remember why now, but have liked the three subsequent books. The mysteries can get a bit convoluted (or maybe it just feels that way because there are so many characters to keep track of), but I really like the recurring characters. Strangely, the main character doesn't get as much page time as I'd have expected, especially in this last one, so it's kind of fitting that my library's copy has "A Ruth Galloway mystery" (her other detective series) erroneously printed on the title page.

Edited April 29 by krankydoodle

[EtheltoTillie]

@Mona Lisa you are right. that Sydney Taylor book is depressing!  

[Hanahope]

I read John Grisham’s latest book The Exchange. I was very disappointed. He took the protagonists from the Firm, Mitch and Abby McDeere and did nothing with them.

Completely unnecessary first several chapters.  they have Mitch travel back to Kentucky to handle a death row case that is mooted when the prisoner is found dead.  killed or suicide?  who knows, who cares.  Mitch then takes a 'detour' to visit Lamar from The Firm.  they chit chat, Mitch leaves.  no purpose whatsoever.

The actual plot of the story was stupid, undeveloped and boring. It involved an associate of Mitch’s new firm who got kidnapped in Libya during Gaddaffi’s reign, and paying her ransom, and which for some strange reason the kidnappers wanted to use Abby to participate in the exchange.

Despite so many possibilities there were no twists at all. So many set ups I was sure would lead to a shocking revelation and nothing.

Mitch just happens to get very serious food poisoning and the associate doesn’t even get some mild nausea despite their sharing all food and drink in Libya and no one thinks that’s strange, possibly done on purpose to separate the associate???

And how did the terrorists know the associate would be without Mitch and their primary corporate/govt liaison (who "had to" stay with Mitch in the hospital) in order to kidnap her during the trip outside Tripoli? Just dumb luck?  Or was the corporate/govt liaison who seemed to know everything part of the plan?  who knows?  never considered.

the story ends coincidently in the Grand Caymans.  No thought of a revenge plot by the mob or Mitch’s former law firm? I thought for sure that was the whole reason for the early foreshadowing visit with Lamar.  but nope. nothing.  Then why involve Mitch and Abby (especially Abby) at all in the money exchange? 

And apparently the terrorists are completely unstoppable , they take out numerous trained soldiers, no one can track the people following Abby and Mitch, they have access to all sorts of tech.

The only drama is over who/what gov or company was contributing how much to the ransom pot . Snore … who cares.

And at then end the terrorists get away with $85million, the associate lives and yeah that’s it.

Worst Grisham book ever.

[Ohiopirate02]

18 hours ago, Hanahope said:

Worst Grisham book ever.

Worse than Sycamore Row?  I remember reading that one thinking there was zero need for the guy to be so extra and drag Jake into his mess.  

[EtheltoTillie]

On 5/2/2024 at 3:34 PM, Hanahope said:

I read John Grisham’s latest book The Exchange. I was very disappointed. He took the protagonists from the Firm, Mitch and Abby McDeere and did nothing with them.

Worst Grisham book ever.

Yup, absolutely awful.  I noped out right after the young woman was kidnapped.  How is this a Mitch McDeere story?  I do not need John Grisham writing international spy novels.

[isalicat]

For those of you, like me, that love a good mystery - I just finished the first in a series of three novels by the Icelandic author Lilja Sigurdardottir - this one is called Cold As Ice (the next one is Red as Blood and the last one is White as Snow). Incredibly well written and twisty tale of a young woman who pursues financial criminals as her career and has traveled back to her home country of Iceland to find her missing, estranged sister. This is not cozy (I've never found a Nordic mystery that is) but not terribly gruesome and exceptionally engrossing.

[blackwing]

I read A Solitude of Wolverines by Alice Henderson.  This book is part mystery, part survival story, about a wildlife biologist who take a job to study wolverines in a Montana wildlife sanctuary.  Sometimes leaves her a note on her car saying she isn't welcome, someone tries to run her off the road, she sees a strange injured man on her remote animal camera who then disappears.  On top of that, the sheriff doesn't seem to believe her.  She soon realises that she may have stumbled into something that she wasn't meant to see, and now those in charge seem to be intent on killing her.

This was a fantastic book.  Fast paced and suspenseful.  The author definitely did her research because the survival scenes and the resourcefulness of the main character were well done.  I liked the depictions of the Montana scenery and the wildlife.

[Hanahope]

On 5/3/2024 at 10:13 AM, Ohiopirate02 said:

Worse than Sycamore Row?  I remember reading that one thinking there was zero need for the guy to be so extra and drag Jake into his mess. 

I agree that Sycamore Row wasn't a good book either, but i think the Exchange is worse.  

[Rushmoras]

Read through Part I of Volume 2 of Tolstoj's War and Peace.

Spoiler

The last chapters dealt with Nikolaj Rostov loosing 43 thousand rubbles to his ex-friend Dolochov, who in turn was angry at him, because Nikolaj's cousin rejected his advances and Dolochov lost face (after having recovered from the duel with Pjer). So, Rostov in the end crawls to his daddy for a small loan, and by the end of the chapter leaves for Poland, wherein the Russian army is waiting to take-on Napoleon for the second time...

 

[EtheltoTillie]

I just finished Long Island, by Colm Toibin, the sequel to his novel Brooklyn (which I enjoyed and I also enjoyed the movie).

This one is somewhat flawed.  Maybe needed more time to marinate.  It's not very long.  Spoilers ahead:

It is widely revealed that the trigger of the plot is main character Eilis learning that her Italian husband, Tony, has an out of wedlock baby on the way, with the wife of a plumbing client.  It is 20 years after the events of Brooklyn.  I get no feeling of what the marriage was like over the 20 years. 

The novel should really be called Ireland, because that's where most of the action takes place.  Eilis is so pissed off with Tony and his meddling family she goes back to Ireland (with the excuse being her mother's 80th birthday).  Now she resumes her affair with Jim, the guy she left behind 20 years ago.  Jim, meanwhile, had agreed to marry widowed Nancy.  (Nancy had been married to George.  They used to hang out with Jim and Eilis.)  Suddenly he wants to rekindle his old love but doesn't tell Nancy.

So Jim is two timing both women.  The ending is indeterminate!  All of the characters do some bad things. 

Edited May 13 by EtheltoTillie

[Spartan Girl]

Wow, that sounds really disappointing. Not gonna bother with that one.

[blackwing]

I'm always looking for books that are like "And Then There Were None".  Most of the ones I've read in recent years seem to fall into that unfortunate "women in jeop" category.  But I finally read one which was outstanding!

Murder in the Crooked House by Soji Shimada.  From Goodreads:

Quote

The Crooked House sits on a snowbound cliff at the remote northern tip of Japan. A curious place to build a house, but even more curious is the house itself - a maze of sloping floors and strange staircases, full of bloodcurdling masks and uncanny dolls. When a guest is found murdered in seemingly impossible circumstances, the police are called. But they are unable to solve the puzzle, and more bizarre deaths follow.

Enter Kiyoshi Mitarai, the renowned sleuth. Surely if anyone can crack these cryptic murders it is him. But you have all the clues too - can you solve the mystery of the murders in The Crooked House first?

This has all the hallmarks of a classic Christie.  Remote house, a group of people who don't all know each other, an initial mysterious locked room death, then more deaths.

This book was very interesting and captured my attention.  I loved the concept of the crooked house with its sloping floors and weird rooms and strange staircases.  I liked the characters.

My complaint is that the detective doesn't arrive until about 2/3 of the way in, at which point the book strangely switches from a 3rd person perspective to a 1st person narrator (narrated by the detective's assistant).  I'm not sure if this is because of the English translation or if it was intended that way in the original Japanese language.

The biggest issue I had is that the book challenges the reader to solve the mystery by saying we had been provided with all of the clues.  Although I correctly deduced the killer(s), I have to say that the actual solution is preposterous.  There's absolutely no way anyone would be able to deduce exactly how the main crime was committed.

However, that aside, this was a really enjoyable book.  Shimada has another book which also has an English translation called "The Tokyo Zodiac Murders" which although not a locked room mystery, is said to be just as good as this book.  I also found a classic Japanese locked room mystery called "The Decagon House Murders" which is now on my TBR list.

[isalicat]

If anyone here should be in the mood for something truly very dark (and a bit violent, although not too gruesome), I just finished a novel from a few years ago by the well known Norwegian author Jo Nesbo (he writes the incredible Harry Hole series if you like super dark murder/mystery/psychological study novels) called The Kingdom. Its about a man with a very problematic brother, and the story kicks off when the brother returns from years away with a new wife and a development scheme to revitalize a tiny, dying rural village in Norway. Absolutely brilliant, but not about happy, shiny people at all!

[Spartan Girl]

Just started You Like It Darker. Stephen King really looked at his fans and said, "Challenge Accepted."

[sugarbaker design]

3 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

Just started You Like It Darker. Stephen King really looked at his fans and said, "Challenge Accepted."

I just finished Holly, I loved it and Holly.

[EtheltoTillie]

I'm  in the middle of Holly.  I like the character.  I liked her in the Mr. Mercedes book number 1, where she was introduced.  I haven't read all the others.

 

Edited May 23 by EtheltoTillie

[blackwing]

I read Every Time I Go On Vacation, Someone Dies by Catherine Mack.  The main character is an author who has written a series of mysteries.  In the author's books, the main character is based on and shares the same name as her ex-boyfriend.  The author is sent by her publicist on a book tour in the Amalfi Coast (where the latest book is set) and those accompanying her include the ex-boyfriend, another recent ex-boyfriend, her sister, and other authors.  The ex-boyfriend believes that someone is trying to kill him and asks her for help.  She doesn't believe him.  But then people start dying.

This book was a lot of fun.  It is told in the first person from the author's perspective, and there is a lot of meta stuff going on like breaking the fourth wall and hinting to readers about clues.  It's really funny and suspenseful at the same time.

I read Extinction by Douglas Preston (a solo effort, without his usual writing partner Lincoln Child).  A company has used genetic cloning techniques to bring back various ancient species to life, including the wooly mammoth and the giant ground sloth, in a process it calls "de-extinction".  These animals reside in the Erebus Resort located in a valley in the Colorado Rockies, where tourists pay for the opportunity to stay in a luxury resort and hire guides to take them on extended camping trips throughout the resort where they can observe these species in the natural habitat.  The scientists have removed the gene that causes aggression from these animals.  But two hikers on their honeymoon disappear overnight.  Their guide heard the sounds of their tent ripping and screaming.  What did this?  Weren't all the species supposed to be non-aggressive?

This was a fast-paced and suspenseful book.  Think Jurassic Park but with ancient species.  The twist of who was doing this which is revealed midway through the book caught me completely by surprise.

Some of the science doesn't make a lot of sense, but if I handwave over that, this was overall a very entertaining book.  It sounds like there could be more books in this series forthcoming.

 

Edited May 24 by blackwing

[blackwing]

I just finished this book called Escape Velocity by Victor Manibo.

Goodreads summary:

Quote

Space Habitat Altaire is the premier luxury resort in low Earth orbit, playground of the privileged and the perfect location to host reunions for the Rochford Institute. Rochford boasts only the best: the wealthiest, most promising students with the most impressive pedigrees. Complete with space walks, these lavish reunions are a prime opportunity for alumni to jockey for power with old friends and rivals—and crucially, to advance their applications to live in an exclusive Mars settlement. Earth is dying, and only the best deserve to save themselves.

Aboard the Altaire for a 25th reunion, finance magnate Ava pursues the truth about her brother’s murder during their senior year. Laz, ambassador and political scion, hopes to finally win Ava’s heart. Sloane, collecting secrets to conceal his family’s decline, angles for a key client. And Henry, heir to a healthcare empire, creates an unorthodox opportunity to get to Mars in a last-ditch effort to outrun a childhood secret.

While these erstwhile friends settle scores and rack up points, they fail to notice the other agendas developing at the Space Habitat Altaire. Their own futures aren’t the only ones at stake—“the best” will soon regret underestimating those they would leave behind on Earth.

I was drawn to this book by the promise of a murder mystery set in the future in a science fiction setting.  The book is set in the year 2089 and is billed as "Knives Out with a Parasite twist".  People who attended an exclusive high school are meeting in a floating orbital space station for their 25th reunion.  25 years ago, the twin of one of the main characters was murdered.  Her girlfriend was convicted of the murder, but she has never believed that the girlfriend was guilty.

Not sure what to make of this book.  I liked the space station setting.  What I didn't like were the characters.  I found almost all of them to be highly unlikeable. None of them are good people.  All of them are obsessed with obtaining enough "points" to qualify to be chosen to live in the new colony on Mars, and don't care who they hurt in the process to get there.

For a book set on a space station, we get surprisingly little detail about what life is like onboard.  With the exception of highly graphic detail of a naked pool party / orgy, and a detailed S&M session.  And here I thought I was reading a sci-fi murder mystery!

The ending was also really abrupt, strange, disappointing and depressing.  It's like the author decided he fulfilled the minimum word count, wanted to end the book ASAP, so he responded by  [WARNING: SPOILER ABOUT THE ENDING]

Spoiler

killing off all the main characters.  Seriously, every single one of the reunion guests die in various ways at the hands of a mutiny by the servants/employees.

I wish I had read reviews of this book before reading it.

Edited May 30 by blackwing

[andromeda331]

I just finished the Divine Comedy-all three books. I think my favorite part was where Dante put who in Heaven, Purgatory and especially Hell. The worse of the worse with Satan are Brutus and Cassius who's using them as chewy toys. I'm not sure they deserved that. Or Dido, Cleopatra and Helen of Troy together. I'm not sure it would be much of a punishment to hang out with them. That sounds like fun. I guess if your going to Hell aim for who you'd like to hang out with. I liked how many from Greek/Roman myths showed up. Heaven was interestly organized in different planets and later a rose. Poor Dante sure passed out a lot during his journey and I think he's eyes got blown out by the constant bright light in Heaven. Reading the notes are very, very important. I also think watching Overly Sarcastic Videos on all three books is a big help. I was able to visualize better some of the stuff.    

Edited May 31 by andromeda331

[Anela]

I have the Dash and Lily books downloaded from the online library.  

[scarynikki12]

On 5/31/2024 at 3:03 AM, andromeda331 said:

I just finished the Divine Comedy-all three books. I think my favorite part was where Dante put who in Heaven, Purgatory and especially Hell. The worse of the worse with Satan are Brutus and Cassius who's using them as chewy toys. I'm not sure they deserved that. Or Dido, Cleopatra and Helen of Troy together. I'm not sure it would be much of a punishment to hang out with them. That sounds like fun. I guess if your going to Hell aim for who you'd like to hang out with. I liked how many from Greek/Roman myths showed up. Heaven was interestly organized in different planets and later a rose. Poor Dante sure passed out a lot during his journey and I think he's eyes got blown out by the constant bright light in Heaven. Reading the notes are very, very important. I also think watching Overly Sarcastic Videos on all three books is a big help. I was able to visualize better some of the stuff.    

I love how petty the Inferno is. Dante didn't like you in fiction or reality? Sucks for you, your ass is going to hell. Love it. Brutus and Cassius being chewed on by Satan makes sense when you consider the assassination of Caesar was the third most famous example of betrayal Dante would have known and them joining Judas in punishment by the ultimate betrayer drives home how that was the worst of all the sins. 

I think Dido, Helen, and Cleopatra were unfairly placed. Even though an argument can be made Cleo was right where she should be (Marc was there with her if memory serves), or that she got off easy in her placement, I think it was just Dante being "famous foreign woman having famous affairs with two leaders of Rome and not feeling shameful=whore". History tends to look as Helen as a whore for making the best of being kidnapped and held hostage during the war. Virgil wrote that Troy was the ancestor of Rome so she's being doubly punished for being the "reason" for countless deaths and the fall of the city/state. I've wondered if Dido's placement was due to Dante maybe conflating Virgil's underworld with his modern day concept of hell? Students to this day will make that mistake and get corrected so Dante could have done the same. Dido got shafted in The Aeneid and, I argue, Virgil was sympathetic to her character and story. He makes a point of having Aeneas run into her in the underworld as the way he learns of her death and her refusing to speak to him (for Regency fans, she basically gives him the cut direct) while he tries to engage. In this epic poem about the founding of the great Roman republic, soon to be empire, Virgil takes the time to makes clear the hero mistreats his love and gets emotionally punished for it. I know Dante would argue he put her in the Lust category because he was being kind (she killed herself and could have been placed in the Seventh circle) but she belonged in the "didn't know Christ" level. I'd have placed all three ladies in that circle. If fucking CAESAR was allowed to be there then they should have been as well. 

In spite of this I fucking love The Inferno. I love how Dante revealed each circle, the punishments and inmates), and I especially love the Ninth circle and descriptions of Satan. The ultimate sinner is trapped in ice, desperately trying to escape and return to Paradise, only for further trap himself by hardening the ice with each flap of his wings. So good. 

[andromeda331]

On 6/1/2024 at 6:22 AM, scarynikki12 said:

I love how petty the Inferno is. Dante didn't like you in fiction or reality? Sucks for you, your ass is going to hell. Love it. Brutus and Cassius being chewed on by Satan makes sense when you consider the assassination of Caesar was the third most famous example of betrayal Dante would have known and them joining Judas in punishment by the ultimate betrayer drives home how that was the worst of all the sins. 

So do I. At Dante's time Brutus and Cassius probably would be considered the worse of the worse plus how much Dante loved the Roman Empire. Nowadays it's hard to imagine them the worse with Hitler, Stalin, etc. He did call out a few popes which is surprising. Judas of course got exactly what he deserved.

 

Quote

I think Dido, Helen, and Cleopatra were unfairly placed. Even though an argument can be made Cleo was right where she should be (Marc was there with her if memory serves), or that she got off easy in her placement, I think it was just Dante being "famous foreign woman having famous affairs with two leaders of Rome and not feeling shameful=whore". History tends to look as Helen as a whore for making the best of being kidnapped and held hostage during the war. Virgil wrote that Troy was the ancestor of Rome so she's being doubly punished for being the "reason" for countless deaths and the fall of the city/state. I've wondered if Dido's placement was due to Dante maybe conflating Virgil's underworld with his modern day concept of hell? Students to this day will make that mistake and get corrected so Dante could have done the same. Dido got shafted in The Aeneid and, I argue, Virgil was sympathetic to her character and story. He makes a point of having Aeneas run into her in the underworld as the way he learns of her death and her refusing to speak to him (for Regency fans, she basically gives him the cut direct) while he tries to engage. In this epic poem about the founding of the great Roman republic, soon to be empire, Virgil takes the time to makes clear the hero mistreats his love and gets emotionally punished for it. I know Dante would argue he put her in the Lust category because he was being kind (she killed herself and could have been placed in the Seventh circle) but she belonged in the "didn't know Christ" level. I'd have placed all three ladies in that circle. If fucking CAESAR was allowed to be there then they should have been as well. 

Cleopatra might deserve the spot. Sure she did seduced two important men but she did so to try and save her kingdom from falling to Rome. She used whatever she had. She could go down for murdering her siblings. 

I like the idea of Helen and Dido with the group before Christ. Given how badly they were treated by the Gods especially Aphrodite they probably wish they had known Christ. 

Quote

In spite of this I fucking love The Inferno. I love how Dante revealed each circle, the punishments and inmates), and I especially love the Ninth circle and descriptions of Satan. The ultimate sinner is trapped in ice, desperately trying to escape and return to Paradise, only for further trap himself by hardening the ice with each flap of his wings. So good. 

So do I. The discription of each circle was really good. The revelation of Satan was so great. I expecting something fiery, brimstone and cool. Not trapped by ice and can't escape. That was both pathetic and awesome. 

[Bookish Jen]

I just finished Sarah Tomlinson's novel "The Last Days of the Midnight Ramblers." It's about a ghostwriter named Mari who gets involved with a legendary rock band called The Midnight Ramblers when a former model named Anke, who was romantically involved with three members of the band, commissions Mari to help ghostwrite her memoir. The best way to describe this novel is "tepid." It is never fully explained why The Midnight Ramblers are so iconic, and how Anke could capture the hearts of three members of the band. Plus, there is some mystery of how one of the members of the band (who was married to Anke) at the time drowned in a swimming pool. Did he OD? Was her murdered? Sadly, I just couldn't care.

[blackwing]

I forget how these books ended up on my list to read but I think it must have been some article in Book Page about fantastic voyages in interesting settings.

I read Voyage of the Damned by Frances White.  This book is set in a fantasy world divided into twelve dukedoms, all of which are named after animals.  The heir of each dukedom is called a Blessed and is gifted a Blessing in the form of a magical power.  All twelve are on a ship on an annual voyage to visit the Goddess Mother to renew her strength so she can keep up the mystical barrier at the southern end of the land to keep out the unwanted invaders.  Then one by one they start dying.

This book was fun.  I liked the world building, even if I found it confusing at first.  I actually thought the heirs were actually anthropomorphic animals... it wasn't very clear.  The mystery was interesting.  I have always wanted to read more mysteries set in a fantasy world, and I liked the addition of the magical element to the mystery.

I read Floating Hotel by Grace Curtis.  Set in the 28th century aboard a spaceship hotel that travels the galaxies like a space cruise ship.  There are various guests and employees on board.  There's some element of a mystery... who is sending these messages decrying the galactic emperor?  We meet various people and learn about them.

This was an odd book and I'm not sure if I would recommend it.  It's more like a series of vignettes about individual characters, loosely connected by their ties to the floating hotel and in some cases, the mystery of the identity of the revolutionary.  I don't think I was the right audience for this book.  It's a bit lyrical and poetic and philosophical.  I was expecting more of a concrete plot-driven story.

[Spartan Girl]

Just read One of Our Kind by Nicola Yoon. When a book is another version of The Stepford Wives, you know it’s not going to have a happy ending, but

Spoiler

The fact that the Black residents were basically turning their own families into white people because they had all lost a loved one to police brutality and hate crimes and thought it was easier to change themselves because they were tired of fighting injustices anymore…that shook me.

 

[annzeepark914]

Killers of a Certain Age by Deanna Raybourn. Loved 3/4 of it. Towards the end, I was ready for it to already be finished. I still recommend it.

Thanks for the tips about The Exchange & Long Island. I just cancelled my holds on them.

Edited June 19 by annzeepark914

[annzeepark914]

Heh...for my mystery book club (that will also include a baby shower for one of our younger members), I'm reading "Long Island Iced Tina" 😁. I was afraid it was going to be one of those cutesy cozies that are so popular now. Actually, it's more of a murder mystery amongst Italian-Americans, many of whom are connected with what the main character refers to as, "the life" 👀. It takes place mostly in Queens. I love the nonnas & their ancient beliefs & little rituals. And of course, there are a couple of baby showers (thus the selected book). 

[grommit2]

Back from the Dead, Bill Walton's autobiography. Bill led a full life: athlete, student, social contributor, and more. He certainly enjoyed life: family, friends, top 50 basketball player, Grateful Dead fan, long-range cyclist. .   But, alas, he paid a mighty price with physical challenges.

[EtheltoTillie]

So over the weekend the NYT published an article about Freida McFadden, an author who started out in self-published Amazon ebooks in the twisty Girl Gone thriller genre.  She's also a physician and writes under a pseudonym and won't reveal her real identity.  She garnered a lot of success, so she was picked up by traditional publishers.  Hence the featured story.  Rave reviews from many who love twists.

So I tried one of the highly recommended books, The Housemaid, and it was just awful.  A young woman gets out of prison and can't get a job.  She goes to work as a maid/babysitter/cook for a rich couple.  The wife is gaslighting her.  Mostly makes no sense.  You'd flee the first moment the wife started throwing things from the refrigerator leaving a mess for maid to clean up.  You would not stick around.  I stopped reading and looked up a summary to find out all the twists.  Eh--glad I did not spend the time reading the book.  It's hard to explain what was so irritating.  Just so improbable.  You have to make the reader believe the character would stick around. 

Some people on Amazon reviews are accusing her of copying another book called The First Mrs. Parrish.  In a way it's like Rebecca, yet not.  Has anyone else read this author?

[Spartan Girl]

I’ve skimmed a couple of books. Comparing this author to Gone Girl is an insult to Gillian Flynn.

[EtheltoTillie]

3 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said:

I’ve skimmed a couple of books. Comparing this author to Gone Girl is an insult to Gillian Flynn.

Yes!  Only using it as an indication of a genre that has become overridden with crap imitators. 

[babyhouseman]

2 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Some people on Amazon reviews are accusing her of copying another book called The First Mrs. Parrish.  In a way it's like Rebecca, yet not.  Has anyone else read this author?

I've read her books from the library and Kindle Unlimited. I just want to see how silly they can be. One book has one of the wildest situations I've ever seen in a book. She did write a couple of books about a doctor, not a suspense book, that was funny, but I'm easily amused. I guess you don't want to read The Housemaid sequels. It seems like the author came out of nowhere. 

[Dani-Ellie]

12 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Has anyone else read this author?

I've read one of hers (Never Lie) and did not care for it. For me, the twists in this one felt unearned, like they were there just for the sake of being there. There are ways to do unreliable narrators that don't feel like a cheat but this was not one of them.

Incidentally, I had the same problem with The Silent Patient by Alex Michaelides, which the internet in general also seems to be wild about. Maybe I read too many thrillers but I've seen the same things done in much better ways.

Edited June 26 by Dani-Ellie

[Mindthinkr]

I just read a cute book. It’s called Dewey: The Library Cat. It’s the true story about how a cat was rescued by a librarian from the off hours book drop slot. He lived in the library for 19 years. It was heartwarming and a bit sad at the end. The cat did so much to promote reading and fellowship in their small Iowa town. 
 

[SusieQ]

Totally agree about "The Silent Patient" . The twist was a cheat. Couldn't understand all the glowing reviews.

[Dimity]

I recently got Kindle Unlimited and based on another author I like they recommended Olivia Miles.  Light romance type.  Maybe I am just in a critical mood today but there's light, and then there's so light it's slight.  If I want Dostoevsky I won't pick up a RomCom but c'mon!

[tennisgurl]

I finished Behind Closed Doors by B.A. Paris, it was pretty good but it really hit all of those "relationship thriller" tropes one right after another so not a lot of surprises. It certainly does keep moving at a good pace and even without a lot of shocks I felt invested. Its like half the thrillers we get are these kind of "the man I married has a dark secret" books or Gone Girl knock offs. 

"Hello I'm the heroine in a relationship thriller, I have never asked the man I married a single question about his life or questioned his total lack of family or friends and am now shocked that he is keeping secrets from me..."

Currently reading Malibu Rising by Taylor Jenkins Reid, I am really liking it so far. Its a fun summer read while still have some substance, so far I would probably out it right between Evelyn Hugo and Daisy Jones. 

[blackwing]

Just finished Eruption by Michael Crichton and James Patterson.  Crichton's widow Sherri says that she has had this unfinished manuscript and plot points and scientific notes for a while, and she was waiting for the perfect person to come along and complete the book.  She chose their good friend James Patterson.  Ugh.

I think James Patterson is a hack.  I loathe how he takes first billing on all of the "co-authored" books which are almost certainly almost entirely written by the co-author.  The few books of his in his own name that I actually have read, I found completely pedestrian.

It seems very evident to me that Crichton actually wrote very little of this book, because nothing about was even remotely comparable to any of his works.  The story involves an impending enormous eruption on the Big Island of Hawaii.  I suspect that Crichton did all the scientific research and Patterson incorporated these notes into the story.

The story is boring and predictable.  The writing is laughable and lacks any of Crichton's trademark excitement and suspense.  There are a ton of characters, most of them are cartoons, most of them are forgettable and interchangeable. Many of the characters die, and I actually started laughing with each one, because I couldn't bring myself to care about any of them.  I couldn't even remember who some of them were, that's how boring they were.

Of course this book is going to sell millions, but what an awful tarnish on Crichton's name.  Patterson seems to have his legion of fans, so I'm sure it won't matter, but I thought this book was a huge disservice and I'm sorry I wasted my time on it.

Crichton had two other posthumous books, Pirate Latitudes and Dragon Teeth, with no other credited author, so I would assume those books were complete by him.  But he had another posthumous book, Micro, which was completed by Richard Preston.  I thought that book was very good.  I wish Sherri Crichton had turned to Preston again (or maybe his frequent writing partner Lincoln Child) to finish Eruption.  Anything would have been better than this terrible waste churned out by Patterson.

[Mindthinkr]

2 hours ago, blackwing said:

Just finished Eruption by Michael Crichton and James Patterson.  Crichton's widow Sherri says that she has had this unfinished manuscript and plot points and scientific notes for a while, and she was waiting for the perfect person to come along and complete the book.  She chose their good friend James Patterson.  Ugh.

I think James Patterson is a hack.  I loathe how he takes first billing on all of the "co-authored" books which are almost certainly almost entirely written by the co-author.  The few books of his in his own name that I actually have read, I found completely pedestrian.

It seems very evident to me that Crichton actually wrote very little of this book, because nothing about was even remotely comparable to any of his works.  The story involves an impending enormous eruption on the Big Island of Hawaii.  I suspect that Crichton did all the scientific research and Patterson incorporated these notes into the story.

The story is boring and predictable.  The writing is laughable and lacks any of Crichton's trademark excitement and suspense.  There are a ton of characters, most of them are cartoons, most of them are forgettable and interchangeable. Many of the characters die, and I actually started laughing with each one, because I couldn't bring myself to care about any of them.  I couldn't even remember who some of them were, that's how boring they were.

Of course this book is going to sell millions, but what an awful tarnish on Crichton's name.  Patterson seems to have his legion of fans, so I'm sure it won't matter, but I thought this book was a huge disservice and I'm sorry I wasted my time on it.

Crichton had two other posthumous books, Pirate Latitudes and Dragon Teeth, with no other credited author, so I would assume those books were complete by him.  But he had another posthumous book, Micro, which was completed by Richard Preston.  I thought that book was very good.  I wish Sherri Crichton had turned to Preston again (or maybe his frequent writing partner Lincoln Child) to finish Eruption.  Anything would have been better than this terrible waste churned out by Patterson.

I co-sign on Preston’s writing. I’ve enjoyed many of his works. 
 

Patterson did a book called The Horsewoman with Mike Lupica. No way did Patterson know that much about equestrianism.  I think he attaches his name so the other authors (perhaps friends or a money deal) can get published. 

[blackwing]

1 hour ago, Mindthinkr said:

I co-sign on Preston’s writing. I’ve enjoyed many of his works. 
 

Patterson did a book called The Horsewoman with Mike Lupica. No way did Patterson know that much about equestrianism.  I think he attaches his name so the other authors (perhaps friends or a money deal) can get published. 

I myself think he's a terrible writer, but for whatever reason, his name opens up doors.   I have absolutely no doubt that his co-authors are subject to an unforgiving contract in which he agrees to "co-author" the book and take lead billing, thus ensuring the book will sell.  In exchange, the co-author agrees to give him a massive percentage of the profits.  I wouldn't at all be surprised if Patterson gets 75%.  Would love to see one of these contracts.

My gut tells me that Patterson does almost no work on these books.  Maybe he reviews and approves the storyline and the main plot.  But I very much doubt he does much (if any at all) of the actual writing.  He probably reads the finished manuscript and cashes his checks.

I've discussed about this before, but some of these co-authors of his are now established in their own right.  Yet they seem to keep publishing books "co-authored" with him.  It's curious that almost none of them decide to break out on their own and publish as a standalone author.  I'm wondering if Patterson has some kind of prohibition against this in the contracts.

[Mindthinkr]

26 minutes ago, blackwing said:

I'm wondering if Patterson has some kind of prohibition against this in the contracts.

 A ban for an amount of time or a no compete deal. 

[Bookish Jen]

I just finished "Valley Verified" by Kyla Zhao. It's about a young woman who leaves her reporting job for a fashion magazine in NYC for a marketing job for a fashion app start up in Silicon Valley. I really liked it. There are a lot of surprises, and the story was really interesting, and I most of the characters are pretty dimensional. It's a good summer read.

[Anela]

I am trying to finish Remarkably Bright Creatures. The library needs it back.