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Don't forget not only was she big enough to win that award, but she beat Queen Bey who Kanye thought was more deserving. So Taylor was definitely pretty well known at the time. If anything Kanyes stunt brought her a ton of sympathy at the time.

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OMG is it the DONDA chart??  I have been perusing this chart.  My absolute favorite thing on it is his idea for a "LUXURY SEARCH ENGINE!"  What is he talking about? 

My favorite things on the Dondo chart are,  'Alternative Energy Resources',.....'Nuclaer Power' and also under 'Trademarks & Patents'..... 'Emoticon Auto Correct'. (I really need that, don't you?)  mad%20cow.gif  and he's right on target with his plan for 'Wellness',....'Healthy Fast Food'.

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Don't forget not only was she big enough to win that award, but she beat Queen Bey who Kanye thought was more deserving. So Taylor was definitely pretty well known at the time. If anything Kanyes stunt brought her a ton of sympathy at the time.

Exactly, and he embarrassed Beyonce' with that stunt. Say what you want, but I don't see Beyonce' ever wanting to get into bashing or petty catty fights with fellow female artists. If her husband Jay-Z didn't feel the need to say anything and he's her husband why the fuck is Kanye opening his mouth supposedly on "Beyonce's behalf?"  She's not his wife.  

 

Please, he has long needed to have several seats, to be chained into those seats and locked in a padded room, seriously.  He needs an extremely long time out.

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If her husband Jay-Z didn't feel the need to say anything and he's her husband why the fuck is Kanye opening his mouth supposedly on "Beyonce's behalf?"  She's not his wife.  

 

Kanye wants to be Jay Z, he wants all the successful businesses, he wants the respect he gets as a business man & an artist, but most of all, he wants Beyonce. Kanye acts so much like the guy stuck in the friend zone around Beyonce it's pathetic. He finally figured out he's not going to get her, so he settled for his porn fantasy, Kim. Think about it, Kanye tweeted "Bitch is an endearing term in hip hop" when he people called him out for calling Kim a bitch, but have you ever heard him refer to Beyonce as "bitch"? No, & we never will, he respects Beyonce, Kim, she's just there as window dressing. 

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Page Six released a tape of him going nuts at SNL.

I'm not hearing too many of his alleged friends defending him. How can you defend insanity. Kris hasn't even issued a statement on what a great dad he is or some other lame attempt at spin control.

And I don't think he respects Beyoncé so much as he doesn't want to piss JayZ off. I mean if he'll call his own wife a bitch why is another mans wife off limits, unless he fears the beat down.

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I just listened to the Page Six audio. Kanye is nuttier than a fruitcake. He needs a long stint in a psych ward, for real.

I read that Kim was there. She must have been dying inside. After her lecture to Kylie about not being a diva when appearing in Kanye's latest fashion line. And now her own hubby is acting like a total nutcase.

And Kanye if you're going to name drop try to pronounce the name correctly.. It's KuBRICK not KruBRICK!!! Asshole.

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I read that Kim was there. She must have been dying inside. After her lecture to Kylie about not being a diva when appearing in Kanye's latest fashion line. And now her own hubby is acting like a total nutcase.

 

 

Mmmmm...schadenfreude.  So tasty.  Yes, yes...I am an asshole.

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I was looking at the album credits and WTF, he lists North and Saint as "creative consultants".  Seriously what the hell for?

The sad thing about this slow meltdown he's having is that he's so egotistical and such a narcissist I doubt anyone could actually help him.

 

Guess his idea to keep the album exclusive to Tidal wasnt such a great idea. Dumbass. Yeah good luck getting people to join Tidal no matter how much he pushed for it

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if he loses money by releasing it on Tidal, who is to blame.

Will he dare put it on Jayz? Or will he revert to blaming "the man" for putting his foot on his neck cause he married a white woman, his usual excuse. Wonder how that makes Kim feel? Being responsible for his dreams being crushed?

Not that I feel sorry for her. She's got no sympathy for Scott and his struggle or Lamar and his problems ( though she's softened a bit on him, didn't want to dis a guy who might die). I'd say she gives Kanye one chance to get back on his meds or she'll cut him loose.

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If it's really him on that leaked tape, he has really lost it. Kimmy needs to get him help and soon before he hurts himself or someone else. I would be afraid to leave my kids alone with him at this time. It also seems like the media is finally taking him down, and it won't be long before we hear that Kim and Kanye seperated. (I believe that Kris Jenner is behind the leaks in the media)

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Wow, the rage and aggression coming from Kanye in that tape is scary. Thankfully, the kids have so much staff around them at all times, I don't think Kanye would have the chance to be alone with them.

I will admit, though, I agree with him about Taylor. I think she's faker than a three dollar bill and is a total mean girl behind her "aw, shucks" facade. Watching her flop around at the Grammys taking attention away from Ed Sheeran's win made me want to punch her in the face.

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I saw pictures of him, Kim, Saint and North leaving NY on their private jet and going back West. There really wasnt a big entourage at all, just the 3 of them and a nanny but Kanye was holding Saint in his carseat. After hearing the kind of rage he's capable of I'm actually afraid, like what if he snaps for some reason doing something as simple as holding his kid? I follow a couple of different Instagram accounts that track every single move he and Kim make and there's tons of pics of either him or Kim with North that they manage to get that arent even from paparazzi. Believe me he's with them a lot more than you realize. Lots of pictures of him holding North and she's at the age where she would be aware of him freaking out.

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Wow, the rage and aggression coming from Kanye in that tape is scary. Thankfully, the kids have so much staff around them at all times, I don't think Kanye would have the chance to be alone with them.

I will admit, though, I agree with him about Taylor. I think she's faker than a three dollar bill and is a total mean girl behind her "aw, shucks" facade. Watching her flop around at the Grammys taking attention away from Ed Sheeran's win made me want to punch her in the face.

Soooooooo phony.
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Meh, Kanye is crazy, a loon etc. But that tape...is clearly heavily edited and even so, frankly I've heard worse. Alec Baldwin's phone message for his DAUGHTER for instance. Saying there's reason to fear for his kids I think is overboard and makes me wonder if the pearl clutching about his 'rage fueled' temper tantrum would be the same if he was not a Black rapper.

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When he was screaming "Don't fuck with me" several times, he sounded insane. I don't think it has anything to do with him being black or a rapper. Kanye's been on a two week tirade and his own co-writer said he was mentally ill and needed help.

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Meh, Kanye is crazy, a loon etc. But that tape...is clearly heavily edited and even so, frankly I've heard worse. Alec Baldwin's phone message for his DAUGHTER for instance. Saying there's reason to fear for his kids I think is overboard and makes me wonder if the pearl clutching about his 'rage fueled' temper tantrum would be the same if he was not a Black rapper.

The thing is, Kanye created such a disturbance by threatening to walk out, which would leave SNL with only Melissa McCarthy holding the show together. Their skits are planned out and rehearsed, the writers had written all that they had planned for that one night. If Kanye really carried out his threat and left, his career would really be in the dumpster. Nobody in show business would want to touch him with a ten-foot pole. I think as it stands now, there isn't a producer or director in their right minds in television that wants to deal with a steam pipe ready to explode at any minute.He may have shot himself in the foot with this one, and right now he needs to be mending fences and not tearing them down.

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Don't forget not only was she big enough to win that award, but she beat Queen Bey who Kanye thought was more deserving. So Taylor was definitely pretty well known at the time. If anything Kanyes stunt brought her a ton of sympathy at the time.

I'd never heard of her. I'm sure it piqued a lot of interest with people who only heard of her because of the incident. Some probably discovered they like her and others, like me, did not. 

 

Plus the "I'mma let you finish..." meme was gold.

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Wow, the rage and aggression coming from Kanye in that tape is scary. Thankfully, the kids have so much staff around them at all times, I don't think Kanye would have the chance to be alone with them.

I will admit, though, I agree with him about Taylor. I think she's faker than a three dollar bill and is a total mean girl behind her "aw, shucks" facade. Watching her flop around at the Grammys taking attention away from Ed Sheeran's win made me want to punch her in the face.

I'm not a fan of her either, but is her flopping around at the Grammys taking attention from Ed Sheeran on a par with Kanye taking the mic right from her hands? Yeah, I get the fake sweet vibe from her, it's as obvious as his fake ass apologies when he crosses the line over and over.

His SNL snit, I could have believed it was an act for publicity sake til he started the " don't fuck with me" stuff. That was scary. Someone bigger and tougher than him needs to take him down a peg or five.

I saw pictures of him, Kim, Saint and North leaving NY on their private jet and going back West. There really wasnt a big entourage at all, just the 3 of them and a nanny but Kanye was holding Saint in his carseat. After hearing the kind of rage he's capable of I'm actually afraid, like what if he snaps for some reason doing something as simple as holding his kid? I follow a couple of different Instagram accounts that track every single move he and Kim make and there's tons of pics of either him or Kim with North that they manage to get that arent even from paparazzi. Believe me he's with them a lot more than you realize. Lots of pictures of him holding North and she's at the age where she would be aware of him freaking out.

Maybe that's one of the reasons Kim has for staying at her moms?

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She was pretty famous before the Kanye incident. She was a big country star, she fucked other celebrities then wrote about their relationships when they ended, and was someone people paid attention to on the red carpet. The Kanye thing might have brought her more attention, but if anything, it got her some sympathy from people who didn't like her. Hell I don't like her and I felt bad for her that night.

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Kim never wanted to live with a man/husband. Hump learned that the hard way. I don't think Kanye's rage has anything to do with it.

I'm not saying Kanye is a good guy, he's a narcissist with clear untreated mental issues. But saying he's a danger to his kids based on that tape is jumping the gun in my opinion.

And yeah x1000 the posts about fake mean girl Taylor. I personally was not familiar with her prior to the incident in question. Yes she won the award, but his assholish antics made her sympathetic. And she road that sympathy. I can't be mad at that cause it was a dickish move, but I can still hate her and her girl squad.

Eta...his mom looks like Kanye with a wig on. Why in blue diddly hell didn't she have face work done instead of a tummy tuck? Very unfortunate looking woman. Ok I'll see myself out now

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Kim never wanted to live with a man/husband. Hump learned that the hard way. I don't think Kanye's rage has anything to do with it.

I'm not saying Kanye is a good guy, he's a narcissist with clear untreated mental issues. But saying he's a danger to his kids based on that tape is jumping the gun in my opinion.

And yeah x1000 the posts about fake mean girl Taylor. I personally was not familiar with her prior to the incident in question. Yes she won the award, but his assholish antics made her sympathetic. And she road that sympathy. I can't be mad at that cause it was a dickish move, but I can still hate her and her girl squad.

Eta...his mom looks like Kanye with a wig on. Why in blue diddly hell didn't she have face work done instead of a tummy tuck? Very unfortunate looking woman. Ok I'll see myself out now

Karma on Kim if North looks like his mom.

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Karma on Kim if North looks like his mom.

It's funny because I've actually read comments where people have said North looks exactly like her grandmother. I think she's looking more like Original Kim these days, but her face seems to change as she gets older, so who knows where she'll end up.

Iwasish, to answer your earlier question, no I don't think Taylor was as obnoxious as Kanye when he grabbed the mic out of her hand in some lame attempt to defend Beyoncé's honor. However I think she's secretly loving all the good publicity she's getting out of this.

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I was looking at the album credits and WTF, he lists North and Saint as "creative consultants".  Seriously what the hell for?

The sad thing about this slow meltdown he's having is that he's so egotistical and such a narcissist I doubt anyone could actually help him.

 

Guess his idea to keep the album exclusive to Tidal wasnt such a great idea. Dumbass. Yeah good luck getting people to join Tidal no matter how much he pushed for it

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I guess he listed North and Saint as creative consultants so they can receive royalties from the album. Nas listed his daughter as an executive producer on one of his albums and Frank Ocean listed his dog as a producer on one of his. Jay-Z made a song shortly after the surrogate gave birth to Blue Ivy and put Blue's voice on just to say she was the youngest person to have her voice on a record. I noticed over here that Jay-Z is the good cop to Kanye's bad cop but there's one the same coin but on different sides to me.

 

I thought Jay-Z's intention of buying Tidal was to have exclusive content in order to compete with Spotify and Itunes. That's why Jay-Z, Kanye, Rihanna and others  to have their albums on Tidal only. 

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Jay Z is a business who goes about things in a business like way.   And when they don't work, he doesn't take to social media ranting and raving about how everyone is trying to keep him down.   His RocNation tried to get into the sports agent business, actually doing the players' contracts, not just repping on endorsements.   He ran into a lot of problems, especially with the NFL.   The NFL has some really strict rules for agents, like being a college grad and only the agent can meet with the player.   So Jay Z hired an actual NFLPA accredited agent.   But then he found out he couldn't be in the room talking to the player to encourage them to sign with the agent.   So they never really got the high profile players he needed to make it in the business.   What did he do?   Go back to just doing endorsement deals.   He didn't keep throwing good money after bad, etc.   Tidal is another story.   JayZ thought ranting against the evil publishers would get him customers, but he didn't price it out right.   So it is failing.   It will either end or he will fiddle with the model.  In other words, it's will be a business decision, not a personal one.

 

Kanye now want so to be JayZ level of respectability in business.   But he goes about it the wrong way.   He makes it personal, not business.   It's all about recognizing Kanye's "genius."   It's not about finding new ways to make money and invest the millions he already has.   It's about HIM.   And that's why he will never be JayZ.   He can't be a businessman.   

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It's funny because I've actually read comments where people have said North looks exactly like her grandmother. I think she's looking more like Original Kim these days, but her face seems to change as she gets older, so who knows where she'll end up.

Iwasish, to answer your earlier question, no I don't think Taylor was as obnoxious as Kanye when he grabbed the mic out of her hand in some lame attempt to defend Beyoncé's honor. However I think she's secretly loving all the good publicity she's getting out of this.

I agree, she loves the attention and the good publicity his idiot actions gave her. She was smart enough to work it to her advantage. 

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Karma on Kim if North looks like his mom.

 

 

It's funny because I've actually read comments where people have said North looks exactly like her grandmother. I think she's looking more like Original Kim these days, but her face seems to change as she gets older, so who knows where she'll end up.

 

I think North is a bright, adorable child who looks like … herself. I hope that she is never influenced by the beauty and sexiness obsession that all the female members of her mother’s family fall prey to. I also hope that as a biracial child, she is able to grow up proud of both aspects of her heritage and all of her ancestors and not brainwashed into believing that any resemblance to one side or the other is an insult or unfortunate circumstance that she has been burdened with.

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It would be nice, but it's doubtful. Kim's had endless plastic surgery procedures to remove all traces of her ethnic background. Since she'll likely get the kids in the divorce, North will be raised Kardashian. Kim already photoshopped the poor kid's nose for the family Christmas card, so the future ain't looking too good for accepting what God gave her.

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I think North is a bright, adorable child who looks like … herself. I hope that she is never influenced by the beauty and sexiness obsession that all the female members of her mother’s family fall prey to. I also hope that as a biracial child, she is able to grow up proud of both aspects of her heritage and all of her ancestors and not brainwashed into believing that any resemblance to one side or the other is an insult or unfortuumstance that she has been burdened with.

And....

 

Once upon a time, there lived a very lovely Princess from the North. The little Princess was adored, almost worshiped by her devoted parents. They bought her ponies and mermaids, clothes that sparkle with real fur collars and even a Rolls Royce. The little Princess got just a little spoiled over time and started throwing temper tantrums and giving pout faces to people. It was cute for a while the way she slammed her little designer shoe down on the ground when she couldn't get her way. But twenty-two years later, the little Princess was receiving her Masters Degree in Biology. Her parents were so proud that their Princess wasn't spoiled by attention, success, money or fame and just followed her dream to be a Biology Professor at UCLA.

                                                                                   

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Karma on Kim if North looks like his mom.

We will probably never know because Kimmy will have her under the knife the second her features are no longer pleasing. I wonder if Kanye will mind the inevitable plastic surgery his daughter will have, after what happened to his mom?

Hysterical.  I laughed from beginning to end.   

 

Kanye has become a joke.   Kim must be thrilled. 

Haha Stephen called Princess Kanye a "visionary toddler." Yep.

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Kanye was the topic of discussion in the lunchroom today.  I work with a pretty diverse cross-section of people, and every last one of them knew about his latest go-round with Taylor.  Most knew about his SNL meltdown, too.  Consensus was that he is crazy and needs to go away.  I just sat quietly and smiled.

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I think North is a bright, adorable child who looks like … herself. I hope that she is never influenced by the beauty and sexiness obsession that all the female members of her mother’s family fall prey to. I also hope that as a biracial child, she is able to grow up proud of both aspects of her heritage and all of her ancestors and not brainwashed into believing that any resemblance to one side or the other is an insult or unfortunate circumstance that she has been burdened with.

Beautiful sentiments, but realistically her chances of escaping the preoccupation with looks and appearance are pretty slim. I mean Kim's gone on record as saying she dreads having to wear a macaroni necklace in public, and has the 10K hand painted by North bag ever been seen again?

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One of my favorite things in the world is the look on Jay Z's face when Kanye took the stage at the 2015 Grammys, when Beck won.  He was acting like he was going to grab the mike again.  Jay's terrified look -

 

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I could watch this for HOURS!

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So Kris admit's they're scared to tell him no.

 http://stylenews.peoplestylewatch.com/2016/02/18/kris-jenner-dubs-caitlyn-jenner-worst-dressed-of-fashion-week-because-she-was-jealous-of-her-outfit/?xid=socialflow_facebook_peoplemag

Kris also weighed in on Kanye West dressing his famous family for the Yeezy Season 3 show in New York last week. Despite being the family matriarch, Kris had to take a back seat to West.

“I don’t think any of us would dare say we didn’t like it if we went for a fitting,” Kris said on Fashion Police when asked what she would have done had she not liked the clothes West picked for her.

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So Kim has been living with Kris for years, when is she going to be a grownup with her own house?

I don't get it either. She had her own house for years. There's an army of staff to help with the kids, so I don't know why Kim is staying at her mother's. Especially considering all she does is complain about it. I get she doesn't want to live with Kanye, but he doesn't seem to care about living with her either. Just rent a house already.

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That's because the Grammys suck

IMO, a helluva lot of music today sucks. I can't understand how rap can be considered music. This generation's music AND the artists performing the music are just bad. The only new music I've bought in the last few years is Adele and Jason Isbell. There are a lot of teens today that only buy classic rock, because that's what they heard growing up, and they like it much more than the shit that's out today.

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Of course they're scared. They're afraid he'll have a another tantrum, like a two-year-old child would. Like the one he had on the set of SNL. He's a spoiled, self-centered asshole. I wouldn't put up with his f'ing shit for 5 minutes. I can't, for the life of me, understand WTH people cater to him and put up with his bullshit. If I had been running the show on SNL, I would have thrown his ass out and banned him from walking on the premises ever again. I just don't get why adults are allowed to act that way, regardless of who they are, how much money/power they have, etc.

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Forget having to actually live with him - something as simple as going out to dinner for a couple of hours must be exhausting, not to mention letting him "style" and "dress" you.  I bet it took hours before he was satisfied.  

 

 

LOL - just saw this:

 

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Yep, the throwing under the bus has begun.  Yes, he is ranting and raving.   But rather than not comment or deal with it privately, Kris is all over the place talking about how they are afraid of him, etc.   Last year he was a genius and so wonderful .   This year he can't do any more for them so they are done.   Countdown to the filing of the divorce papers begins.

 

 

Not that Kim shouldn't divorce this controlling most likely abusive jerk, but c'mon, if he wasn't hurting the "brand" they wouldn't care.   If they could still get cache from him, you wouldn't hear a peep.   

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