S11.E07: Defining Women

[jewel21]

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With rumors swirling about her divorce, Erika reveals new details about why she left her husband. A group outing on the town goes up in flames when Kathy unintentionally reignites a dying spark. Meanwhile, Lisa Rinna confronts tabloid rumors of her own, Dorit adds a special piece of art to her collection, and Garcelle’s son has strong thoughts about her love life.

Airdate: 06/30/2021

Please limit your discussion to events that occur in this episode.  Real time events are spoilers and belong in the media or individual housewife threads. 

[RealHousewife]

Don't apologize for eating Kyle! It's refreshing to see a BH housewife tear up good food like the rest of us. 

[Mindthinkr]

I thought Kyle looked great in her casual outfit (black jeans, gray sweater top) to drop off the toys for the CHLA. 

[Straycat80]

Erika still playing the victim, oh Tom was so mean. Cry me a river, I think she’s lying about everything. 

[Keywestclubkid]

so she makes him the bad guy for funding her whole career but not making it to Broadway? Give me a fucking break 

[Julyolo]

2 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

so she makes him the bad guy for funding her whole career but not making it to Broadway? Give me a fucking break 

Erica attended a dumpling party last night with Chrystal, today with Sutton she is having a dumping on Tom party.

[Keywestclubkid]

Rinna wetting herself that shes now kardashian adjacent ugh 

[Hangin Out]

4 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

Erika still playing the victim, oh Tom was so mean. Cry me a river, I think she’s lying about everything. 

I think so too.  I’ve never heard her talk about her marriage before, good or bad.  She was always tight lipped.  Think she’s playing the role too much over the top.  It’s too obvious.  She is actually too nice, and there’s Rinna slopping it all up like she feels so sorry for her.  What a bunch of phonies.  Erika’s makeup is too much for the daytime too.  Overdoing it.

[Straycat80]

I’m sure Rinna cares more about her daughter being famous and in the gossip rags (and Rinna’s name being mentioned too) over being with Scott Disick. 

[Keywestclubkid]

no ones talking about the eating disorder... so ill just keep bringing it up all I can... Rinna u are a horrible mother 

[Mindthinkr]

Scott Disick is a phase Rinna? Get a grip. With all the PDA and traveling they are doing,  they are more than “just friends”. 

[RealHousewife]

Just now, Keywestclubkid said:

Rinna wetting herself that shes now kardashian adjacent ugh 

An age gap like Erika's and Tom's may be larger, but I am more disturbed by Amelia's and Scott's relationship. A father of three approaching 40 has no business dating someone whose brain isn't fully formed yet.  

[FlyingEgret]

Erika didnt leave a note for Tom because it was all pre-planned (IMHO) and there was no need to provide potential written evidence...

[EtheltoTillie]

I am very touched watching Kyle’s daughters!  They’re like real people. 

Edited July 1, 2021 by GussieK

[Wicked]

Kyle may have faults, but that family unit is awesome

[nexxie]

8 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

An age gap like Erika's and Tom's may be larger, but I am more disturbed by Amelia's and Scott's relationship. A father of three approaching 40 has no business dating someone whose brain isn't fully formed yet.  

True - I think of him as Pervy Scott now.

[JD5166]

I hope none of Kyle’s girls ever steal the others GODDAMN HOUSE! 😆

[EtheltoTillie]

Disgusting Erika bemoaning her small house and her lost Christmas decorations. “I have nothing,” she says. 

[EtheltoTillie]

I could have lived without seeing Rinna shopping in her lips jammies. 

[TexasGal]

Sutton’s bow looks ridiculous.  But I want her emerald ring please!!

[Keywestclubkid]

OMG Sutton let this go…. For the love of God women 

[RealHousewife]

8 minutes ago, GussieK said:

I am very touched watching Kyle’s daughters!  They’re like real people. 

 

6 minutes ago, Wicked said:

Kyle may have faults, but that family unit is awesome

I've always applauded Kyle as a mother. That woman loves the heck out of her children, and it's so sweet how much they all love one another. 

[Keywestclubkid]

Notice Crystal wasn’t going into this with Sutton on her mind at all … Sutton walks in with Crystal on hers and a chip still on her shoulder…. Who won’t let the mouse go now?

[nexxie]

Rinna will probably never refer to Scott without saying his last name, just so everyone knows her kid is hooking up with a big reality “star.” 🤮

[Straycat80]

This is what I like to see, ladies dressed to the nines, drinking, eating yummy looking food and bashing Scott Disick. No race or politics conversations like on NYC. Of course this harmony might not last long at all. 

[Mindthinkr]

Just now, nexxie said:

Rinna will probably never refer to Scott without saying his last name, just so everyone knows her kid is hooking up with a big reality “star.” 🤮

Oh Lordy 😂 

[nexxie]

13 minutes ago, GussieK said:

I am very touched watching Kyle’s daughters!  They’re like real people. 

 

11 minutes ago, Wicked said:

Kyle may have faults, but that family unit is awesome

 

3 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

 

I've always applauded Kyle as a mother. That woman loves the heck out of her children, and it's so sweet how much they all love one another. 

Ditto times three.

[65mickey]

Sutton's black pants and hurge bow are awful. She looks ridiculous.  Whoever told her that those pants were flattering needs their head examined.

[nexxie]

Good story about Garcelle’s son Oliver!

[Keywestclubkid]

I’ll only want you if you can bankroll my lifestyle… never change Erika 

[RealHousewife]

When Erika said she ate meat, meat, and more meat, I scolded myself for having a dirty mind. I felt way more shame when I found out Rinna's mind went exactly where mine went!

[65mickey]

Did Kyle just bring up the violated thing again? 

[Straycat80]

For once they are all having a fun dinner with everyone laughing,  having a good time, and Kyle has to ruin it by bringing up the whole violated subject.  

[Keywestclubkid]

This poor dead horse 

[Stats Queen]

5 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

For once they are all having a fun dinner with everyone laughing,  having a good time, and Kyle has to ruin it by bringing up the whole violated subject.  

Kyle, everything was so nice…

Is this going to be the Pantygate, puppygate all season long.

I was really enjoying their get together until that.

[Keywestclubkid]

Kathy playing peacemaker….

[Straycat80]

Kathy Hilton being the voice of reason, who’d have thought it. 
Dorito: I’m not English!

Kathy: whatever. Lol!

 

[65mickey]

So how many episodes are we going to hear about the Crystal/Sutton tiff? This seems to be this season's  pantygate, puppygate and Denise/Brandygate. Get one thing that happened and beat it to death.  Jesus Kathy Hilton is the voice of reason. 

[Hangin Out]

All I know is Kathy’s face doesn’t move from the bottom lip up.

Christal is too immature for this show.  Actually, she’s a pain.

Edited July 1, 2021 by Hangin Out

[Mr. Miner]

Dorit’s commitment to being a label whore is commendable. 🙄

[nexxie]

14 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

Did Kyle just bring up the violated thing again? 

Producers must think this is a scintillating storyline. 🙄

[65mickey]

Did Crystal say she felt violated? Or did she say that Sutton violated her? Crystal is entitled to feel violated. And Sutton can shut the hell up about her reputation.  Why didn't Crystal say even if she had to scream over the shrinking violet known as Sutton, " I did not say that you violated me."  If she said that Sutton violated her I withdraw my comment. 

[Rorysmom]

So Sutton is clearly not ready to let it go. First with "jokes" and then anger after KYLE, not Crystal, brings it up again.

Crystal was like, what? I thought we were done. 

Not feeling the ladies trying to modulate how Crystal should have felt based on their friendship with Sutton. That's not your place and really demeaning. 

 

 

[RealHousewife]

10 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

Kathy Hilton being the voice of reason, who’d have thought it. 
Dorito: I’m not English!

Kathy: whatever. Lol!

 

Kathy is funny AF without trying! ahahahaha

[Caseysgirl]

Unpopular opinion coming up - Portia REALLY overacted.  My kids were very close & loved each other as much as Kyle’s do but none of them ever reacted to seeing their sibling come home from college by crying hysterically the way she was.  She doesn’t seem to know how to be subtle in her responses. Also, all that spoiling her when she was younger has come back to bite them in the butt; her sisters never seemed as snotty as she does.

[WaltersHair]

Many women could identify with a long marriage coming to an end, but Erika is asking for sympathy and isn't a terribly sympathetic person. She's pushed an image for what, 5 seasons of a tough cookie who does not care what you think of her. Anyone who dared to contradict some part of that persona was eaten alive. If she showed even a small morsel of vulnerability, she might get the kind of sympathy the housewives are giving her.

I just can't anymore with the Crystal/Sutton thing.

[sistermagpie]

1 minute ago, Rorysmom said:

Not feeling the ladies trying to modulate how Crystal should have felt based on their friendship with Sutton. That's not your place and really demeaning. 

 

 

7 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

Did Crystal say she felt violated? Or did she say that Sutton violated her? Crystal is entitled to feel violated. And Sutton can shut the hell up about her reputation.  Why didn't Crystal say even if she had to scream over the shrinking violet known as Sutton, " I did not say that you violated me."  If she said that Sutton violated her I withdraw my comment. 

Nope, she didn't. When she first described the situation she was still angry and so made Sutton seem worse, but she's said since then she didn't think Sutton actually had bad intentions. 

Seemed like a perfect snapshot of Crystal's situation as she sits there silently while a bunch of women including Sutton tell her she's wrong (and maybe has something wrong with her--maybe she's a loser who has no friends!) to use the word violated in a way that doesn't reflect badly on Sutton at all as if she's the mean girl here. Sutton even got to remind everyone how emotially vulnerable she was (she moved!). Then she reminded everyone how she's kooky and therefore picked on she was so somebody else could jump in and defend her from herself.

Just now, Caseysgirl said:

Unpopular opinion coming up - Portia REALLY overacted.  My kids were very close & loved each other as much as Kyle’s do but none of them ever reacted to seeing their sibling come home from college by crying hysterically the way she was.  She doesn’t seem to know how to be subtle in her responses. Also, all that spoiling her when she was younger has come back to bite them in the butt; her sisters never seemed as snotty as she does.

I thought she was a big drama queen playing up for the family and the cameras. 

[65mickey]

15 minutes ago, nexxie said:

Producers must think this is a scintillating storyline. 🙄

They're wrong.

[Hangin Out]

1 hour ago, GussieK said:

Disgusting Erika bemoaning her small house and her lost Christmas decorations. “I have nothing,” she says. 

She has nothing.  Go to the Border and see nothing.  Only then will you know what nothing means.

[JAYJAY1979]

Maybe Tamra of OC fame should hold a master class on stirring the pot and doing it effortlessly because Kyle needs the lessons.

Little Portia is a mini Kyle.

Sutton and Crystal are both neurotic grudge holders..which is why they get along so well.

Rinna...momager wannabe.  Sadly neither daughter inherited their parents talent.