Rosiemac July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 (edited) Spoiler https://www.facebook.com/825786111/videos/796914184350669/ Looks like the two points are on display:) Edited July 24, 2021 by Rosiemac 1 8 Link to comment
WoofDCC July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Sara 1 said: And I thought season 15 had shocking cuts. Edited July 24, 2021 by WoofDCC 1 Link to comment
go4luca July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rosiemac said: Reveal spoiler https://www.facebook.com/825786111/videos/796914184350669/ Looks like the two points are on display:) FYI, this is a spoiler thread so you don't need to use the spoiler tag. 😉 2 Link to comment
tteek74 July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 I can’t tell who they are! 🤣 I’m blind. Can someone who sees well please enlighten me? 2 Link to comment
Holly85 July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, tteek74 said: I can’t tell who they are! 🤣 I’m blind. Can someone who sees well please enlighten me? I must be blind to bc I only see one 1 Link to comment
Popular Post WoofDCC July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share July 24, 2021 (edited) I want to make a point on being an "insider" as I was one once. Not for DCC. For another show years ago. I was an intern who's boss certified content for parental ratings etc. So I'd know what would happen before anything aired. My point is an insider doesn't have to be someone who is literally working 9-5 inside the DCC HQ or someone who IS a DCC. They could be someone for example who archives the dailies everyday for DCCMT producers and editors to work on later and so they can take a sneak at the uncut footage themselves. An insider can be ANYONE. And sometimes, as in my position, the further away you are from the likes of Kelli and Charlotte, the more emboldened you feel as you are 3 degrees of separation from the show and no one knows who you are. And a point about TPTB being on forums in disguise and leaking misinformation to 'keep fans guessing'. I was once an extra on a movie that the fans were rabid about spoilers and leaks. Reading the forums, the fans WERE CONVINCED that the producers, director etc were infiltrating the forums. And... it could not have been further from the truth. The movie people were concerned about making a movie and not some forum on the internet... it was the last thing on their minds. The same thing happens on sleuth detective forums, they are always convinced that the murderer has secretly infiltrated the forum. So my point is, Shelly is just Shelly doing her thing and I'm grateful for her. She is highly unlikely to have multiple accounts and seeding misinformation. Why? See above. This is a pattern of behavior that all forums go through. Edited July 24, 2021 by WoofDCC 11 20 Link to comment
Holly85 July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 here is another video with Rachel at point 7 Link to comment
dccfan204 July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Holly85 said: here is another video with Rachel at point Why does Chandi have a better spot than Caroline. I’m mad 1 Link to comment
Rosiemac July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 16 minutes ago, go4luca said: FYI, this is a spoiler thread so you don't need to use the spoiler tag. 😉 I could not figure put how to take it off...I am all thumbs;) 3 Link to comment
UnicornKicksBack July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 14 minutes ago, Rosiemac said: Hide contents https://www.facebook.com/825786111/videos/796914184350669/ Looks like the two points are on display:) Lines are off but is that Rachel/Gina point (no shocker, I approve). I can't tell who exactly starts off beside rachel, maybe amber and ashlee? but with Gina it is Lexie to her right (vomit) and Amber? to the left? Rahcel moving to diamond? I get not demoting Lexie out of the triangle, but i have never been a fan. She just looks so cheap and dated like a Girls Next Door reject, and her mom buddying up to TIna K and Judy just rubs me the wrong way. It will take me a long time to get over the vomitous triangle of Maddie/Amy/Lexie. 3 minutes ago, Holly85 said: here is another video with Rachel at point This looks like Chandi and Ashlee? I never really got the Chandi love, nothing bad, just never saw a WOW factor, but I do like this triangle. Good for you Chandi. 2 minutes ago, dccfan204 said: Why does Chandi have a better spot than Caroline. I’m mad I find this quite intriguing as well. Thought for sure that Caroline had point written all over her even though I always wanted Bridget up there from their rookie class. Or Amanda but can't remember if she was a year after them. 4 Link to comment
DCC-UK July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 When Chandi is in the triangle for that weird Black Betty song, Caroline is right at the back and looks very fed up, dancing at only like 50%. Could be pissed she's been demoted so much. However, I like to see different people shine up front so go Chandi! 9 Link to comment
go4luca July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, dccfan204 said: Why does Chandi have a better spot than Caroline. I’m mad 35 minutes ago, DCC-UK said: When Chandi is in the triangle for that weird Black Betty song, Caroline is right at the back and looks very fed up, dancing at only like 50%. This isn't the first time they've done this. They moved Gina to the back at an Oxnard show after she'd been further up in the triangle her 2nd year. Amber & Gina look great in this quick snippet. Edited July 24, 2021 by go4luca corrected info 5 Link to comment
Lona July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 24 minutes ago, dccfan204 said: Why does Chandi have a better spot than Caroline. I’m mad I’ll admit, I’m not. While I do like Caroline and respect she’s a great dancer, I’ve grown to really appreciate Chandi (and by “appreciate” I mean she’s my S14 fave 😂). Gorgeous, kind and all-around classy and a great ambassador for the organization IMO. 16 Link to comment
whosadcc July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 I have not been keeping up very well, so if anyone can send me the first and last names of the Rookie TCC that would be great! Thanks ahead of time! I have been trying to keep up somewhat and go through some of the posts. I know Daphne is injures, but is she for sure off of the team. I know they have allowed some to stay on the team, so wanted to know for sure. Please note I do not have any insider info and these are just my thoughts. Also, I can only assume that Daphne probably would've gone to Oxnard had she not been injured. As to not mess with hair colors and who's schedule could work, Mackenzie went. The video from Kristi is pretty bad. I hardly see most of the girl's keeping up with the choreography and the lines are pretty bad. I think Kelli and Judy are messing with the fans my mixing up the girls so much. I'm wondering if Gina was actually going to be point last year, but since she was still recovering from her injury, they decided against it. I really do hope she is point and I wish she wouldn't have to share it, but I don't think that will happen. From what I am understanding group leader's have not been publicly announced. I'm assuming Lexie and Gina will be group leaders again. I don't know who would be the 2nd Group leaders for those two group's. Since they are both blonde's, I would think they would not choose another leader with blonde hair- TPTB have been doing 2 blondes, 2 brunettes' for the past few season's, even though seniority has made this a little bit easier. From the 1 picture that showed Rachel and Amber with 3 finger's, I would assume those two are leading Group 3. I wouldn't be surprised if Ashlee and Caroline are leading Group 4. 2 Link to comment
whosadcc July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 18 minutes ago, go4luca said: This isn't the first time they've done this. They moved Gina to the back at an Oxnard show after she'd been further up in the triangle her 2nd year. Amber & Gina splitting point in this quick snippet. Lexie is also upfront on the same line as Gina and Amber, just the camera angle doesn't show her as much. 1 Link to comment
go4luca July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 1 minute ago, whosadcc said: Lexie is also upfront on the same line as Gina and Amber, just the camera angle doesn't show her as much. I guess my eye is more drawn to Amber and Gina. 3 Link to comment
go4luca July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, whosadcc said: From what I am understanding group leader's have not been publicly announced. I'm assuming Lexie and Gina will be group leaders again. I don't know who would be the 2nd Group leaders for those two group's. Since they are both blonde's, I would think they would not choose another leader with blonde hair- TPTB have been doing 2 blondes, 2 brunettes' for the past few season's, even though seniority has made this a little bit easier. From the 1 picture that showed Rachel and Amber with 3 finger's, I would assume those two are leading Group 3. I wouldn't be surprised if Ashlee and Caroline are leading Group 4. I hope whoever is chosen for GL's is based on merit and not hair color. 1 10 Link to comment
StellaCL July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rosiemac said: Reveal spoiler https://www.facebook.com/825786111/videos/796914184350669/ Looks like the two points are on display:) Watching this clip, I am already looking forward to next year's retirements. I would love to see some others out front and given the chance to shine. It's been 4-5 years of some of the same dancers. (Edit: Not talking about Gina, just the others) Edited July 24, 2021 by StellaCL 5 Link to comment
whosadcc July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, go4luca said: I hope whoever is chosen for GL's is based on merit and not hair color. I would like to think so to, but I have noticed this in the past few season's that they have mixed up hair color's within the 1st and 2nd group leader's. The last season that had group leaders with same hair color's was 2017-2018 (Jinelle & Elizabeth, Kashara & Heather). So just trying to go by the pattern's that I have noticed. Otherwise, I would hope they would have chosen Erin as a 2nd group leader this season, but they may overlook her if they had to pair her with Lexie or Gina. 1 Link to comment
Christineelgene July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rosiemac said: Reveal spoiler https://www.facebook.com/825786111/videos/796914184350669/ Looks like the two points are on display:) I only see Gina, who is on fire! So I missed the other. I will be seriously pissed if Gina is not point. Edited July 24, 2021 by Christineelgene Added 3 Link to comment
UnicornKicksBack July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 40 minutes ago, DCCOracle said: Interesting formation... it reminds me of a formation they did with Mia and Jackie years ago. They did this with Crystal Trevino and Nicole Hamilton a couple times and when testing out Jacie vs blonde Holly for point. Holly won. Jacie left the next year. I do like the 2 points with no tip on the triangle, too myself. 6 Link to comment
cgloss July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 33 minutes ago, go4luca said: I guess my eye is more drawn to Amber and Gina. They both are killing it. Rachel is too low energy to be point. I never thought much of her dancing, but these Oxnard videos confirm it. If point isn’t Gina alone, it should be Gina and Amber based on dance ability. 24 Link to comment
UnicornKicksBack July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, cgloss said: They both are killing it. Rachel is too low energy to be point. I never thought much of her dancing, but these Oxnard videos confirm it. If point isn’t Gina alone, it should be Gina and Amber based on dance ability. Amber is a firecracker. Rachel is there for the photos. Period. I think she got over looked bc there was so much talent in that rookie class, but she is power pom perfection. 12 Link to comment
TheGenuineBeauty July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, cgloss said: They both are killing it. Rachel is too low energy to be point. I never thought much of her dancing, but these Oxnard videos confirm it. If point isn’t Gina alone, it should be Gina and Amber based on dance ability. She's also been making a lot of mistakes recently (Rachel W.) But as long as you're pretty or one of the favorites you can make those kinds of mistakes and still get point. 9 Link to comment
UnicornKicksBack July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, go4luca said: This isn't the first time they've done this. They moved Gina to the back at an Oxnard show after she'd been further up in the triangle her 2nd year. Amber & Gina look great in this quick snippet. Looks to me like there's a third person to the right of Gina from our view in that same line. Not really a point situation. 1 Link to comment
go4luca July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, UnicornKicksBack said: Looks to me like there's a third person to the right of Gina from our view in that same line. Not really a point situation. Yeah, my bad. This was already pointed out and I corrected my original post. As I said in a follow up post, my eye was drawn to Amber and Gina and not Lexie (the other lady in front) since there wasn't a split point situation. Edited July 24, 2021 by go4luca clarity 1 Link to comment
BunnyHop96 July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 Okay so, just to clarify, Oxnard is the Cowboys FOOTBALL PLAYERS training camp? And it's not in Texas? So the dancers are just there to hype up the crowd, open the training camp, and all that jazz? I got super confused for a minute thinking only some of the girls were going to a super exclusive training camp within a training camp lol 🤦🏻♀️ 10 1 Link to comment
MrsNiniG July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, BunnyHop96 said: Okay so, just to clarify, Oxnard is the Cowboys FOOTBALL PLAYERS training camp? And it's not in Texas? It’s very hot in Texas during the summer. And add in the humidity too. 2 Link to comment
mizzhyer July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Holly85 said: here is another video with Rachel at point and I thought Amy was a boring point 🧐but the DCC said "hold our beers" 15 4 Link to comment
mizzhyer July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 2 hours ago, go4luca said: This isn't the first time they've done this. They moved Gina to the back at an Oxnard show after she'd been further up in the triangle her 2nd year. Amber & Gina look great in this quick snippet. Rachel doesn't need to be on SG... she has NO fire and she's messing up... any other member would have been yanked. 11 Link to comment
Weeklydcc July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 6 hours ago, MrsEVH said: The girl (Jensen) in the front row, 3rd from the left has a different color outfit. Her top looks more white/navy while the others are wearing turquoise/white tops. I know this is a blurry picture but the one I saw on the DCC Instagram page was pretty clear. There might be others wearing the same one as her but she just stands out being in the front row. At first I thought the Show Group had on the silver and navy while the rest had on the turquoise and royal, but I don't think Jensen is Show Group so who knows? 1 Link to comment
Weeklydcc July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Rosiemac said: Reveal spoiler https://www.facebook.com/825786111/videos/796914184350669/ Looks like the two points are on display:) Gina at point! Don't know if she's Point 1 or Point 2 for Thunderstruck, but at least everybody got their wish. By the way, is Thunderstruck still the DCC anthem? They've used it for a long time. I liked it better when they danced to a different song before each game, but I guess that's too much work for Judy. 4 Link to comment
Popular Post kalibean July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share July 24, 2021 2 hours ago, UnicornKicksBack said: They did this with Crystal Trevino and Nicole Hamilton a couple times and when testing out Jacie vs blonde Holly for point. Holly won. Jacie left the next year. I do like the 2 points with no tip on the triangle, too myself. I know I’ve said it a million times, but of all the years to split point, it was Holly/Jacie. They’re both so beautiful and so talented. That was a fire triangle! Still tickled that I got to see Jacie perform as a Rockette too. She’s so good! 1 37 Link to comment
JayDKay July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 3 hours ago, DCC-UK said: When Chandi is in the triangle for that weird Black Betty song, Caroline is right at the back and looks very fed up, dancing at only like 50%. Could be pissed she's been demoted so much. However, I like to see different people shine up front so go Chandi! Yasssss Chandi! Her and Ashley in the triangle is the best! Caroline is as boring as Rachel W to me! Not sad or surprised that she is where she is. Amber has always been a powerful dancer. She deserves the triangle spot. She balances out Gina. 17 Link to comment
Christineelgene July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 2 hours ago, cgloss said: They both are killing it. Rachel is too low energy to be point. I never thought much of her dancing, but these Oxnard videos confirm it. If point isn’t Gina alone, it should be Gina and Amber based on dance ability. I am voting for Gina, Amber, and Lexie for the triangle, just like in this video. 4 Link to comment
dccfan204 July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 (edited) ALERT !!! Lexie, Ashlee, Chandi, and Marissa are in group 1. So mostly likely Lexie is GL and Ashlee is 2GL. This would leave Caroline to most likely be GL of group 4. Edited July 24, 2021 by dccfan204 3 9 Link to comment
Holly85 July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, dccfan204 said: ALERT !!! Lexie, Ashlee, Chandi, and Marissa are in group 1. So mostly likely Lexie is GL and Ashlee is 2GL. This would leave Caroline to most likely be GL of group 4. And Gina group 2 2 Link to comment
dccfan204 July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 Group 1: Lexie, Ashlee, Chandi, Marissa Group 2: Gina Group 3: Rachel W, Amber, McKenzie Group 4: Caroline (most likely) TBD: Kelcey, Erin, Claire 1 5 Link to comment
JayDKay July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 (edited) nm Edited July 24, 2021 by JayDKay nevermind Link to comment
StellaCL July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, dccfan204 said: Group 1: Lexie, Ashlee, Chandi, Marissa Group 2: Gina Group 3: Rachel W, Amber, McKenzie Group 4: Caroline (most likely) TBD: Kelcey, Erin, Claire Gina was in group 4 previously. Not sure why she would move with Tess retiring. Seems like they would just promote her to GL of 4? I wonder why the move. Edited July 25, 2021 by StellaCL Link to comment
UnicornKicksBack July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, mizzhyer said: and I thought Amy was a boring point 🧐but the DCC said "hold our beers" Nah Amy is still far more boring and plain and at least Rachel has that stunner WOW factor. 48 minutes ago, Weeklydcc said: Gina at point! Don't know if she's Point 1 or Point 2 for Thunderstruck, but at least everybody got their wish. By the way, is Thunderstruck still the DCC anthem? They've used it for a long time. I liked it better when they danced to a different song before each game, but I guess that's too much work for Judy. Point 2. Open with looks then entertain with talent. 40 minutes ago, kalibean said: I know I’ve said it a million times, but of all the years to split point, it was Holly/Jacie. They’re both so beautiful and so talented. That was a fire triangle! Still tickled that I got to see Jacie perform as a Rockette too. She’s so good! OMG YES! I think it was a coin toss with Holly/Jacie as to who would be better point. Rotating would have solved that problem. 37 minutes ago, JayDKay said: Yasssss Chandi! Her and Ashley in the triangle is the best! Caroline is as boring as Rachel W to me! Not sad or surprised that she is where she is. Amber has always been a powerful dancer. She deserves the triangle spot. She balances out Gina. I feel like Caroline is boring with her expressions but on the same dance level as Gina, Kelcey, etc. Amber does balance Gina. 1 10 Link to comment
Agent Gully July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 (edited) OK, can someone "unconfuzzle" me? Regarding DCC Vets (incl. anyone who was on the team this past season). At this time we know for a fact that VK, Daphne, and Amanda are gone. We have heard that possibly an additional vet has been cut/quit, and another vet may be gone due to injury. Is that correct? (Thanks in advance.) Edited July 24, 2021 by Agent Gully added word 6 Link to comment
Christineelgene July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Agent Gully said: OK, can someone "unconfuzzle" me? Regarding DCC Vets (incl. anyone who was on the team this past season). At this time we know for a fact that VK, Daphne, and Amanda are gone. We have heard that possibly an additional vet has been cut/quit, and another vet may be gone due to injury. Is that correct? (Thanks in advance.) That is what we have heard. One vet more quit, one more vet injured and oit 5 Link to comment
Bellisima08 July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 21 hours ago, SanDiegoGal said: Ditto. This is cheerleading, not The Hunger Games. The fandom does not exist for the pleasure and entertainment of TPTB. Preach! They and the show are supposed to be entertaining us and so far I think most of us are more annoyed then entertained! And seriously I don't want myself or anyone on this board to be used for their amusement. Actually if they are being entertained by us then we should get freaking paid! 5 Link to comment
StellaCL July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Agent Gully said: OK, can someone "unconfuzzle" me? Regarding DCC Vets (incl. anyone who was on the team this past season). At this time we know for a fact that VK, Daphne, and Amanda are gone. We have heard that possibly an additional vet has been cut, and another vet may be gone due to injury. Is that correct? (Thanks in advance.) I am also confused. I looked at LemonBus and Dr. M's recent posts. LB indicates one vet quit due to injury (but didn't specify if they meant Daphne or a new vet), and I didn't find where either of them said another vet recently quit, unless they have since edited their posts. I am confused. Edited July 24, 2021 by StellaCL grammar 3 Link to comment
go4luca July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, JayDKay said: Amber has always been a powerful dancer. She deserves the triangle spot. She balances out Gina. 1 hour ago, UnicornKicksBack said: Amber does balance Gina. Completely agree. They make a good team together. 14 Link to comment
Popular Post dccfan204 July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share July 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, go4luca said: Amber has always been a powerful dancer. She deserves the triangle spot. She balances out Gina. Amber is underrated and she deserves more hype 25 Link to comment
StellaCL July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 (edited) On 7/22/2021 at 6:45 PM, lemonbus230 said: Point has been chosen. One point, two points- guess you will wait to see. Group leaders have been chosen. One vet has quit due to injury. On 7/23/2021 at 5:44 AM, lemonbus230 said: I don’t have time or really care to read through whatever transpired last night. I don’t know the other poster and I am positive they don’t know me. And it looks like they don’t know much information either and/or are getting it days after it transpired. When the show airs, make sure you come back and tell me how right I was. 😉A training camp candidate was cut last night and another vet resigned. I’m sure the editing Gods will make it look like she was cut. @lemonbus230 are you able to confirm or provide clarity? July 17 - speculation from reddit Mel was cut July 17 LB post- two more cuts July 18 Dr. M post - the two cuts were TCC July 18 - speculation that the two cuts were after the Mel cut July 18 - 41 were at SG auditions July 19 - makeovers July 20 - rumors that Jordann and Lea were the two TCC that were cut, never confirmed July 20 LB post - there has been another cut (also the Gina weight concerns) July 21 or 22 - rumor from reddit a vet was cut from show group, never confirmed July 22 LB post - a vet quit due to injury (also group leaders were chosen) July 22 - Dr. M post - reveals it's all in good fun and calls out LB as discovered, likely just in jest. Dr. M can't wait to see how fans react to this season. July 23 - LB post - a TCC was cut and a vet resigned who may get spun as a cut. But the post does not clarify if the vet that resigned was the same one that quit due to injury the previous day. It has also never been clarified if the injured vet was referring to Daphne or if there is an additional injured vet and an additional resignation I read this as 3 confirmed TCC cuts 1 more cut either TCC or DCC (not specified on July 20 by LB) 1 resignation due to injury (could be Daphne, or a 2nd vet injured) Potentially 1 resignation/cut from a different veteran Edited July 25, 2021 by StellaCL wording 2 8 Link to comment
Holly85 July 25, 2021 Share July 25, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, StellaCL said: @lemonbus230 are you able to confirm or provide clarity? July 17 - speculation from reddit Mel was cut July 17 LB post- two more cuts July 18 Dr. M post - the two cuts were TCC July 18 - speculation that the two cuts were after the Mel cut July 18 - 41 were at SG auditions July 19 - makeovers July 20 - rumors that Jordann and Lea were the two TCC that were cut, never confirmed July 20 LB post - there has been another cut (also the Gina weight concerns) July 21 or 22 - rumor from reddit a vet was cut from show group, never confirmed July 22 LB post - a vet quit due to injury (also group leaders were chosen) July 22 - Dr. M post - reveals it's all in good fun and calls out LB as discovered, likely just in jest. Dr. M can't wait to see how fans react to this season. July 23 - LB post - a TCC was cut and a vet resigned who may get spun as a cut. But the post does not clarify if the vet that resigned was the same one that quit due to injury the previous day. It has also never been clarified if the injured vet was referring to Daphne or if there is an additional injured vet and an additional resignation I read this as 3 confirmed TCC cuts Potentially 1 more cut either TCC or DCC (not specified on July 20 by LB) 1 resignation due to injury (could be Daphne, or a 2nd vet injured) Potentially 1 resignation/cut from a different veteran 2 diffrent veterans are out other the daphne and two rookies were cut Edited July 25, 2021 by Holly85 2 4 Link to comment
StellaCL July 25, 2021 Share July 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Holly85 said: 2 diffrent veterans are out other the daphne and two rookies were cut It doesn't specify that though. I count 3 TCCs cut confirmed since July 17. And probably another one on July 20 but LB does not say if TCC or DCC. Do you have other sources? Link to comment
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