Trials and Tribulations of Juicy and Tre...

[zoeysmom]

 

Thanks. I love Amy Phillips, but I think that was the wrong link! (Don't worry about it - we're close enough to the date that we can do our own math now).

 

My prediction stands - prison time for both of them. Those quotes were from Joe and Teresa's lawyers spinning the charges for sympathy, and from defense attys who didn't appear to read the indictments or plea agreements.

Lotus Flower the countdown clock is to the right of the AMy Phillips story.  It is counting down 1 day and 12 hours.

Edited October 1, 2014 by zoeysmom

[LotusFlower]

Lotus Flower the countdown clock is to the right of the AMy Phillips story.  It is counting down 1 day and 12 hours.

Woops - my bad. Too distracted by Amy Phillips, I guess! I wonder if she'll do a new impersonation of Tre behind bars.

Thanks again.

[ginger90]

I think if I were Teresa I would remove the batteries and unplug all of my clocks. I think that's all I would hear, tick tock, tick tock..........

[jaync]

It just seems so stupid and cavalier.

In other words, typical Giudice style.

[Jennifersdc]

Who's Amy Phillips?

I did try to post something last night asking Rhetorica to start the countdown clock and add staggered sentencing to my pool. Apparently I hit a wrong button, so my carefully written, grammatically correct reply never made it (see Jim Marchese).

I'm going back to 9 months for Teresa. The Star-Ledger is the one paper that generally has it right on this topic. Didn't know about the "tied" plea (the not a lawyer thing). Still think Teresa will do jail time on the BK fraud.

[Rahul]

Who's Amy Phillips?

 

 

She's a comedienne on Bravo's pay roll who does pretty amusing impressions of various Howives.

[phoenix780]

Amy Phillips is on Bravo's payroll?  Good for her- I didn't realize that.

 

I'm only slightly curious to see what the verdicts are.  I'm more interested to find out what happens after.  Which network will her reality show be on?  Will Gia sign on, or opt out (she doesn't seem thrilled to be on camera all the time)?  How loud will Milania have gotten?  Or, will Teresa aim for something like Dancing with the Stars where she can ease her way back into famewhoredom?  All this after a series of Us Weekly covers about her inner strength, of course.

 

So many possibilities...

Edited October 1, 2014 by phoenix780

[zoeysmom]

Who's Amy Phillips?

I did try to post something last night asking Rhetorica to start the countdown clock and add staggered sentencing to my pool. Apparently I hit a wrong button, so my carefully written, grammatically correct reply never made it (see Jim Marchese).

I'm going back to 9 months for Teresa. The Star-Ledger is the one paper that generally has it right on this topic. Didn't know about the "tied" plea (the not a lawyer thing). Still think Teresa will do jail time on the BK fraud.

I am going to say this --there is an old trick amongst criminal defense attorneys-when predicting sentencing of other criminal defense attorney's clients you predict the mitigating term or low ball it.  If the defendant gets it you are a genius or you sound very knowledgeable.  If the defendant gets more time then it sounds like the defendant's attorney didn't do as good a job as you would have done. 

 

I vacillate and since we can't read the pre-sentence report I am thinking she will get a suspended sentence and probation.

 

I say probation and then the next poll on here will be how long before Teresa's first probation violation.

Edited October 1, 2014 by zoeysmom

[LotusFlower]

I am going to say this --there is an old trick amongst criminal defense attorneys-when predicting sentencing of other criminal defense attorney's clients you predict the mitigating term or low ball it.  If the defendant gets it you are a genius or you sound very knowledgeable.  If the defendant gets more time then it sounds like the defendant's attorney didn't do as good a job as you would have done. 

 

I vacillate and since we can't read the pre-sentence report I am thinking she will get a suspended sentence and probation.

 

I say probation and then the next poll on here will be how long before Teresa's first probation violation.

Interesting re: criminal defense attys predictions on other lawyer's clients. I buy it. More reason not to trust their predictions.

As for your prediction (!), however, I don't understand why people still think Teresa will escape time. Even if Joe tries to say it was all his idea, this is where Teresa's so-called stardom works against her. It was her Bravo salary they hid, her book advance they didn't declare, her paid appearances they forgot about, her fake W-2 forms they submitted with her signature, etc., etc... Can the judge really be that dumb?

[breezy424]

Yeah, I noticed both predictions came from defense attorneys which lowered their validity in my mind.

 

I still think that Tre will get some prison time - 6 to 9 months and Joe will get 36 months.  Of course this is not an objective prediction.  It's mostly based on wishful thinking.

[Rhetorica]

With 1 day and 10 hours to go, here are the people who have predictions for the pool. If you wanna play, this is your last chance! Big bragging rights!

AuntieDianne6

breezy424

Feinstein (Joe's attorney)

Higgins

Jaync

Jenniferfdc

Lotus Flower

Motorcitymom65

mwell345

Scattered T2 

Sfoster21

Zoeysmom

[Rahul]

Okay, I'll bite. I hope this isn't just wishful thinking becaue these criminals deserve a hell of a lot worse, but:

 

Teresa - 12 months

Joe - 36 months

[motorcitymom65]

With 1 day and 10 hours to go, here are the people who have predictions for the pool. If you wanna play, this is your last chance! Big bragging rights!

AuntieDianne6

breezy424

Feinstein (Joe's attorney)

Higgins

Jaync

Jenniferfdc

Lotus Flower

Motorcitymom65

mwell345

Scattered T2 

Sfoster21

Zoeysmom

This is pretty damned exciting. It feels like I have been waiting for this forever. At least since crazy Teresa went running down the streets of Italy looking for Chanel. Or dressing all four girls up in those ridiculous, custom-made numbers for dinner on the ship.

I assume that since we are almost to Wednesday that there will be no delay this time? And if anyone tells me there still might be, I am just going to cry and cry and cry.

[zoeysmom]

This is pretty damned exciting. It feels like I have been waiting for this forever. At least since crazy Teresa went running down the streets of Italy looking for Chanel. Or dressing all four girls up in those ridiculous, custom-made numbers for dinner on the ship.

I assume that since we are almost to Wednesday that there will be no delay this time? And if anyone tells me there still might be, I am just going to cry and cry and cry.

Maybe we should have a poll on which Gorga/Giudice relation gets ill and requires a continuance.

[LotusFlower]

Maybe we should have a poll on which Gorga/Giudice relation gets ill and requires a continuance.

Stop it! The ricotta cheese for my Kathy-ordered cannolis is already out and ready. Don't make me waste this stuff.

Honestly, only an illness to Her Honor Esther Salas can delay it at this point.

[Lablover27]

With 1 day and 10 hours to go, here are the people who have predictions for the pool. If you wanna play, this is your last chance! Big bragging rights!

AuntieDianne6

breezy424

Feinstein (Joe's attorney)

Higgins

Jaync

Jenniferfdc

Lotus Flower

Motorcitymom65

mwell345

Scattered T2 

Sfoster21

Zoeysmom

 

I'm so in!

 

Juicy - a big juicy 27 months.

 

Tre  - 6 months. 

 

If she gets probation I'm calling in sick.  Oh wait.  I don't work. 

Then I'll drown my sorrows with vodka.  Oh wait, I don't drink. 

Well, I'll smoke my e-cig and sleep away the day with Lab on my bed.

I'll throw our IRS letters in the shredder and think about throwing Mr. Lablover under the bus if it works for her.

 

Whatever would my teen daughter, Lab, Goldie the fish, and that ugly stupid horned lizard in the garage do without me?  That's going to my plea.  I can't wait to hear what Tre says to the judge. 

[AKA...CJ86]

With 1 day and 10 hours to go, here are the people who have predictions for the pool. If you wanna play, this is your last chance! Big bragging rights!

AuntieDianne6

breezy424

Feinstein (Joe's attorney)

Higgins

Jaync

Jenniferfdc

Lotus Flower

Motorcitymom65

mwell345

Scattered T2 

Sfoster21

Zoeysmom

Can I just put all my Monopoly money on Zoeysmom?

[TheFinalRose]

Yeah, I don't see how both of them pleading guilty means its more likely for Teresa to get probation. Since when does entering a guilty plea without hesitation earn you extra points with the judge? That article is saying that Joe plead guilty to help Teresa, but I just figure the Guidices plead guilty because they are guilty and 2) the lawyers didn't want to take the case to trial because the lawyers want to get paid and they know the Guidices have no money and  would lose the case against the feds anyway.

 

Even if Joe tries to say it was all his idea, this is where Teresa's so-called stardom works against her. It was her Bravo salary they hid, her book advance they didn't declare, her paid appearances they forgot about, her fake W-2 forms they submitted with her signature, etc., etc... Can the judge really be that dumb?

 

 

 

I will be really pissed if she gets probation....does anyone know if probation will actually affect her life at all in any way?

[Lablover27]

Can I just put all my Monopoly money on Zoeysmom?

 

Yes.  But I'm telling you all....if she gets probation I'm switching the e-cig cartilage from low menthol to my pot.  Just sayin, I may not be on this board for a week. ;) 

 

Teen wouldn't get picked up from school, Lab would need to get out, Goldie the fish would be hungry and I could care less about that scary horny thing in the garage (the lizard, not Mr. Lablover). 

 

Where do you think we will hear about it first?  I mean, what channel?  I'm in California, they are 3 hours ahead right? 

[LotusFlower]

Yeah, I don't see how both of them pleading guilty means its more likely for Teresa to get probation. Since when does entering a guilty plea without hesitation earn you extra points with the judge? That article is saying that Joe plead guilty to help Teresa, but I just figure the Guidices plead guilty because they are guilty and 2) the lawyers didn't want to take the case to trial because the lawyers want to get paid and they know the Guidices have no money and  would lose the case against the feds anyway.

 

I will be really pissed if she gets probation....does anyone know if probation will actually affect her life at all in any way?

ITA with your post. As for your question re: probation - it means she'd have to check in with her probation officer regularly, obey all laws, and she'd probably get sent to the slammer if she broke any laws or violated her probation in any way. I'm guessing zoeysmom will chime in with a better (legal) answer.

[LotusFlower]

Yes.  But I'm telling you all....if she gets probation I'm switching the e-cig cartilage from low menthol to my pot.  Just sayin, I may not be on this board for a week. ;) 

 

Teen wouldn't get picked up from school, Lab would need to get out, Goldie the fish would be hungry and I could care less about that scary horny thing in the garage (the lizard, not Mr. Lablover). 

 

Where do you think we will hear about it first?  I mean, what channel?  I'm in California, they are 3 hours ahead right?

Oh, man. I am seriously worried about you! And the lab. And the teen. And the goldfish. Mr. Lab? He'll be ok.

But honestly - know you're not alone! We'll get through it together!

As for reporting the sentence - I'm sure in this day and age of Twitter and insta-news, it'll hit the web within minutes. In addition to Twitter, I bet a lot of sites (Reality Tea, Stoopid Housewives, and all the Jersey news sites like NJ.com) will report the news instantly.

[Lablover27]

Oh, man. I am seriously worried about you! And the lab. And the teen. And the goldfish. Mr. Lab? He'll be ok.

But honestly - know you're not alone! We'll get through it together!

As for reporting the sentence - I'm sure in this day and age of Twitter and insta-news, it'll hit the web within minutes. In addition to Twitter, I bet a lot of sites (Reality Tea, Stoopid Housewives, and all the Jersey news sites like NJ.com) will report the news instantly.

 

Too bad we all couldn't have a sentencing potluck party :) 

ETA:  Now, now, I'm talking about FOOD!  All things made from Tre's cookbook.  Things are going to be nuts here in the next few days. 

Edited October 1, 2014 by Lablover27

[LotusFlower]

Too bad we all couldn't have a sentencing potluck party :) 

ETA:  Now, now, I'm talking about FOOD!  All things made from Tre's cookbook.  Things are going to be nuts here in the next few days.

Where've you been, Lab? We've been talking cannolis and Fabellini for weeks! What are you bringing?

[Giselle]

Ok I'm in.

 

Joe: 27 months at college

 

Theresa: 6 months home incarceration with a bedazzled ankle bracelet then two years probation.

 

I bet I'd be safer saying: "What ever Zoeysmon said."

[Lablover27]

Where've you been, Lab? We've been talking cannolis and Fabellini for weeks! What are you bringing?

 

Skinny Girl Margaritas ~  bloop!   Mystery meat and Top Ramen for appetizer.  I'm going to fry my meatballs like Caroline does and throw them on some Olive Garden pasta. 

 

Oh, I'm bringing the music... 

Edited October 1, 2014 by Lablover27

[LotusFlower]

Skinny Girl Margaritas ~  bloop!   Mystery meat and Top Ramen for appetizer.  I'm going to fry my meatballs like Caroline does and throw them on some Olive Garden pasta.

Nice. I'll try to steal some ketchup packets for your mystery meat, and I'll buy some sprinkle cookies for dessert.

[LilaFowler]

I don't know where to put this, so--

 

 

Happy October

Edited October 1, 2014 by candy moocher

[zoeysmom]

Yeah, I don't see how both of them pleading guilty means its more likely for Teresa to get probation. Since when does entering a guilty plea without hesitation earn you extra points with the judge? That article is saying that Joe plead guilty to help Teresa, but I just figure the Guidices plead guilty because they are guilty and 2) the lawyers didn't want to take the case to trial because the lawyers want to get paid and they know the Guidices have no money and  would lose the case against the feds anyway.

 

 

I will be really pissed if she gets probation....does anyone know if probation will actually affect her life at all in any way?

Actually pleading guilty early in the proceedings is a good thing under the federal sentencing guidelines.  Joe is taking the burden of the responsibility so that is why the Teresa camp is holding out for probation.  I am at a loss to explain how Joe masterminded Teresa's lying under oath about her book deal and payments from magazines.

Television news-I am thinking Nancy Grace HLN-she likes these breaking stories of reality TV stars is where the most coverage will come in.  Alex McCord will weigh in a  RH  and if Teresa is incarcerated she will have Wendy Feldman, Teresa's incarceration specialist on.

[Rahul]

Hahaha! Thank you, candy moocher. That was priceless!

[Lablover27]

I wonder if In Touch was at the party this past week end. 

 

Zoey, your posts make me so nervous.  On the other hand, I am prepared because of them. 

 

If it is probation for Tre, I may call our IRS guy to tell him I'm going on a hunger strike!   Call the press!   Um, ya, that will never happen.  I love cheese too much. 

 

I know how hard it is when I'm gone for one night for a 15 year old!!!  Like I said, even 3 months would be awful but well deserved.  

 

I know some people don't understand my fierce need for Tre and Joe to do time.  I'll remind everyone about our IRS installment payments we have to make.  It sucks, especially around the holidays.  You can't put kids through college.  They have to take loans.  You can't take vacations, they are just waiting to take your home.  But Mr. Lablover does it.  It's embarrassing in some ways.  You have to do without and keep your home AND your equity away from liens and penalties.  That's why I get so pissed off they went without filing tax returns, following the law we all have to.  {Small business owner - no crooks here}  Fortunately, we can finally see the blue sky.  But we - I mean Mr. Lab - freaking did it.  I haven't bought something new for myself in three years.  I've lost weight and my shorts fell off in the grocery store the other day.  I have the same shoulder over little purse for the last 6 years. I have to buy school clothes.  So, yes, I'm a little pissed off.  I don't see either of them trying to make any sort of payments.  Then they get caught.  And still show no remorse.  Finally, they put their property up for sale.  I don't see Juicy trying to work hard to keep his property.  I saw a lot of trophies in his huge home office.  Don't they always look so wonderfully dressed going to court.  There, I said my peace once again. 

 

Tap, tap, tap, fingers on the desk, it will be interesting.

[happykitteh]

My guess is Tre gets house arrest and probation, Joe gets 30 months.

[LotusFlower]

LabLover - I'm familiar with your story from here and from TWOP, and I'm mindful of it every time I post in this thread. Joe will try to take the bulk of responsibility, but Teresa's cumin-soaked fingerprints are all over this decade-long scheme, and I'm hopeful the prosecutors will make a strong case, and the judge will rule accordingly. Have faith!

[Lablover27]

Thank you Lotus.

 

Here we go....

"During the sentencing proceedings on Thursday, Teresa and Joe will address the court. “They are both working on their statements, and the proper way to express their remorse over their actions,” the source added."

 

I'm wondering who is working on Tre's statement.  I am betting 4 times she says my 'four beautiful daughters'.  

 

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/09/teresa-joe-giudice-sentencing-fraud-rhonj-real-housewives-new-jersey-prison/

Edited October 1, 2014 by Lablover27

[leisawoo]

Aaaahhhh, screw it. I'm in.

Teresa-house arrest

Juicy-5 years

[WireWrap]

LabLover - I'm familiar with your story from here and from TWOP, and I'm mindful of it every time I post in this thread. Joe will try to take the bulk of responsibility, but Teresa's cumin-soaked fingerprints are all over this decade-long scheme, and I'm hopeful the prosecutors will make a strong case, and the judge will rule accordingly. Have faith!

I am hoping that the Judge is also a Mom and sees the reality that Teresa/Joe put their greed BEFORE the welfare of their daughters and throws the book at them, giving them both the max IN prison according to the plea deal. I don't care if 1 does time before the other but would prefer to see them do prison at the same time.  I hope she sees that they made NO effort to repay any of the people they scammed before they filed their fraudulently BK or after they withdrew it and then promised to repay. I hope the Judge factors into her decision that Teresa/Joe kept living well beyond their means even after they were caught AND after they ADMITTED to their GUILT!

 

Teresa - 18 months behind bars

 

Joe - 36 months behind bars

 

I also hope the Judge makes them pay the max amount allowed by law in fines and court costs.

 

Then, I hope that everyone the Giudice's scammed line up at the closest magistrate's office, or court, and files lawsuits against  them to collect  what they are owed. I also hope that ALL the companies that Teresa is in partnership with drop her!

[LotusFlower]

Aaaahhhh, screw it. I'm in.

Teresa-house arrest

Juicy-5 years

The max Joe could get is 46 months. At least according to the sentencing guidelines. Do you really think the judge will give him more than the max, and then give Teresa no time?

[jinjer]

Kerik got more than the prosecutors agreed to recommend, but I don't know if that was more than the Guidelines.

[TheFinalRose]

I do not understand how Teresa's guilt is somehow less than Joe's guilt. She is as guilty, I think even more guilty, than Joe because she had more income coming in at the end WHEN THEY WERE ALREADY IN TROUBLE AND INTERACTING WITH THE COURTS and still hid it.

 

I always thought that Joe is not smart enough to think this up himself, that either his buds or someone he knew showed him how to work the system, told him that everyone does it, and if you get in a pickle you declare bankruptcy and start over. Which a lot of people did in the past ten years.  Obviously it worked for the Guidices for a long time, and I hardly think Joe was the one who had to have the excess we see in the marble mausoleum. Tre designed those finishes that cost so much and I don't think she understood, or still understands, the nature of a financial crime. In her mind jail is for rapists and murderers and she is neither of those. I bet she always told herself "We ain't hurtin nobody" everytime she signed off on another fraudulent loan application and as long as they were paying something back they were golden. Hence her constant proclamations that she doesn't understand why this is happening to her family and her four beautiful daughters.  

 

She is so dumb that I think the only way she figures it out is when another inmate sits her down in the television room at the pen and draws her a picture of her and Joe taking out money, and then a line going to all the tradesmen they used, and then a line of payment going to Nordstrom's instead of the tradesmen's families, and then a picture of the tradesmen's families in unclensy houses with sad faces compared to a pic of Tre's house and kids with happy faces. Something like that might get to her, but eh, I don't know. She is certainly one for the books.

 

In fact if I was in Congress I'd be sponsoring the Teresa Guidice Financial Education Bill which requires all high schools graduates to pass a financial literacy exam before being let loose into the world. 

[ryebread]

She is so dumb that I think the only way she figures it out is when another inmate sits her down in the television room at the pen and draws her a picture of her and Joe taking out money, and then a line going to all the tradesmen they used, and then a line of payment going to Nordstrom's instead of the tradesmen's families, and then a picture of the tradesmen's families in unclensy houses with sad faces compared to a pic of Tre's house and kids with happy faces.

 

Hilarious.  Even explained in such elementary detail, Teresa would still be sitting there scratching her head - and her head WILL be scratchy because:  no Milania Hair Care products in the joint.  But I love the idea of an inmate drawing stick figures while Tre sits there mouth breathing and trying to figure out why this is all happening to her.

 

Late to the party but I'm in, too.  Juicy for 36 months, Teresa for 18 months. 

[bosawks]

Aaaahhhh, screw it. I'm in.

Teresa-house arrest

Juicy-5 years

 

Dammit, I loathe the house but sentencing it to Teresa seems a bit harsh.

[LotusFlower]

Dammit, I loathe the house but sentencing it to Teresa seems a bit harsh.

Wow. I had to read that twice before I got it. Too funny!

How 'bout the chicken coop?

[bosawks]

Wow. I had to read that twice before I got it. Too funny!

How 'bout the chicken coop?

 

Deal!  Frankly, I think those chickens are living beyond their means..........

[mwell345]

 

Where do you think we will hear about it first?  I mean, what channel?  I'm in California, they are 3 hours ahead right?

 

For what it's worth, a number of people on twitter are saying they will be glued to HLN.

 

There are no tv cameras in courtroom, right?

[LotusFlower]

Deal! Frankly, I think those chickens are living beyond their means..........

The Giudice dog thought so, too. And at least one of the chicks got a sentence harsher than Judge Milania had intended.

Edited October 1, 2014 by LotusFlower

[zoeysmom]

Here is my take on Teresa and her getting probation-nothing will change in her life other than Juicy will be out of the picture by the holidays-barring some reason for him not to go in 45 days such as he decided to take the state case to trial and the Feds BOC (Bureau of Corrections) won't want him until he is done.  (The BOC would have to pay to transport him and the cost of a marshal to sit with him.)  Probation Teresa, will promise Bravo the moon and the stars and they will give her another $800,000.00 or so (of which she will have pony up 25% post taxes to the feds).  Of course knowing Teresa she will say she has no guarantees of a contract and the court will say she has to pay $400.00 a month or 25% of anything she makes over $14,000.00, a month.  Teresa will live large in her over-priced house citing no buyers and when filming resumes in January Bravo will get nothing from Teresa in the post sentencing or visiting Joe in prison with the girls.  Needing to justify Teresa's salary as a last ditch effort, Victoria Gotti much like Kim D. will find another person to dump on a new housewife or one of the twins.  We will see a repeat of this season only maybe Teresa will be in the middle of it.  Probation Teresa will take zero accountability for Victoria Gotti and blame the twins for them being upset.

 

Bottom line is very little will change for probation Teresa and the only change would be if Bravo put its corporate foot down and  said, "thanks for the table flip, see you around Teresa."

[Emme]

I really don't think Teresa is going to do time... My prediction:

 

Teresa: Probation

Joe: 39 Months

[WireWrap]

I do not understand how Teresa's guilt is somehow less than Joe's guilt. She is as guilty, I think even more guilty, than Joe because she had more income coming in at the end WHEN THEY WERE ALREADY IN TROUBLE AND INTERACTING WITH THE COURTS and still hid it.

 

I always thought that Joe is not smart enough to think this up himself, that either his buds or someone he knew showed him how to work the system, told him that everyone does it, and if you get in a pickle you declare bankruptcy and start over. Which a lot of people did in the past ten years.  Obviously it worked for the Guidices for a long time, and I hardly think Joe was the one who had to have the excess we see in the marble mausoleum. Tre designed those finishes that cost so much and I don't think she understood, or still understands, the nature of a financial crime. In her mind jail is for rapists and murderers and she is neither of those. I bet she always told herself "We ain't hurtin nobody" everytime she signed off on another fraudulent loan application and as long as they were paying something back they were golden. Hence her constant proclamations that she doesn't understand why this is happening to her family and her four beautiful daughters.  

 

She is so dumb that I think the only way she figures it out is when another inmate sits her down in the television room at the pen and draws her a picture of her and Joe taking out money, and then a line going to all the tradesmen they used, and then a line of payment going to Nordstrom's instead of the tradesmen's families, and then a picture of the tradesmen's families in unclensy houses with sad faces compared to a pic of Tre's house and kids with happy faces. Something like that might get to her, but eh, I don't know. She is certainly one for the books.

 

In fact if I was in Congress I'd be sponsoring the Teresa Guidice Financial Education Bill which requires all high schools graduates to pass a financial literacy exam before being let loose into the world. 

The only problem is that they did NOT repay anything, hence the failed attempt at BK! Even after they withdrew their Illegal BK, they did NOT repay anyone despite Teresa's repeated promise to do so, well except for getting caught up on the mortgage on their main house, at least according to the BK Trustee in his final report. Neither Giudice learned a thing and if Teresa OR Joe get probation/house arrest, they NEVER will IMO

[breezy424]

The only problem is that they did NOT repay anything, hence the failed attempt at BK! Even after they withdrew their Illegal BK, they did NOT repay anyone despite Teresa's repeated promise to do so, well except for getting caught up on the mortgage on their main house, at least according to the BK Trustee in his final report. Neither Giudice learned a thing and if Teresa OR Joe get probation/house arrest, they NEVER will IMO

And this is why the situation is so infuriating!  They don't care.  They continue to portray themselves as victims.  There is no remorse (except for being caught) and no acceptance of responsibility to pay back the people and businesses they stole from.   Hopefully the probation officer who is doing the sentencing report as well as the judge are aware of the Giudices' true attitude about their crimes. 

[One Tough Cookie]

The best way for Teresa to stay out of prison - take an IQ test.  They could argue she's not mentally competent.  Of course, she'll need someone to handle all of her affairs from now on, but wouldn't that be for the best?  That is, as long as that someone is Joe.

 

 

OMG--I just  laughed so hard my eye make u is running down my face!!!!

 

eta:  my prediction {hope}:

Tersea--6-9 months

Juicey--36 months

Edited October 1, 2014 by One More Time

[jinjer]

Teresa's crime is less than Joe's - she didn't plead to the IRS stuff IIRC.  Her fraud was in lying about working those years on mortgage application forms.  She didn't work, so she didn't have to file.  He did work, he did have to file, so he is the one that pled guilty to one count of failing to file.  So her sentence automatically will be less than his because she plead guilty to one less count.