Kody Brown: The Man Who Survived a KNIFE to the KIDNEYS!

[xwordfanatik]

Kootie's imagined kingdom has crumbled all around him.  Boo hoo.

2 hours ago, Thistle Howl said:

I think his constant yelling about having to WORK and having RESPONSIBILITIES is a thinly veiled dig at the Original 3 wives. He bitterly resents that the three of them have (mostly) older children and because of that, have the freedom to travel, come and go as they please and time to do more of the things they want to do. Kody thinks if anyone should be having fun, travelling, doing what they want it should be HIM, the MAN, the PRIESTHOOD HOLDER they are all supposed to be bowing down to. Instead, he married Queenie and popped out a couple of super dependent little kids (due to Robyn's mothering), and her older kids are too young/unstable to fill in as babysitters for more than a day at a time (and it's hard to hire someone to do that). He watches the Original 3 living it up and he can't stand that it's not him eating paella in Europe or drinking from a coconut in Hawaii. He's seething with resentment, jealousy, hate, anger, and feels that their enjoying themselves is a direct personal attack against him. Their resources should be for the FAMILY, they should be grovelling around the FAMILY trying to help in any way possible. That's what plural families do! Obedient plural wives are where Kody tells them to be and do what Kody tells them to do. Sorry Kody, the worker bees have turned into new queens and flown the hive, and are starting new hives, and there's nothing you can do about it. 

All of this.  King Shit on Turd Mountain can just suck it up, just like his non-Sobbyn women have done for way too long.

[Libby]

3 hours ago, Thistle Howl said:

I think his constant yelling about having to WORK and having RESPONSIBILITIES is a thinly veiled dig at the Original 3 wives. He bitterly resents that the three of them have (mostly) older children and because of that, have the freedom to travel, come and go as they please and time to do more of the things they want to do. Kody thinks if anyone should be having fun, travelling, doing what they want it should be HIM, the MAN, the PRIESTHOOD HOLDER they are all supposed to be bowing down to. Instead, he married Queenie and popped out a couple of super dependent little kids (due to Robyn's mothering), and her older kids are too young/unstable to fill in as babysitters for more than a day at a time (and it's hard to hire someone to do that). He watches the Original 3 living it up and he can't stand that it's not him eating paella in Europe or drinking from a coconut in Hawaii. He's seething with resentment, jealousy, hate, anger, and feels that their enjoying themselves is a direct personal attack against him. Their resources should be for the FAMILY, they should be grovelling around the FAMILY trying to help in any way possible. That's what plural families do! Obedient plural wives are where Kody tells them to be and do what Kody tells them to do. Sorry Kody, the worker bees have turned into new queens and flown the hive, and are starting new hives, and there's nothing you can do about it. 

This post made me so happy! It's true. The big three that he dumped for Robyn are living large. He sits in the mansion with Robyn and her kids doing nothing. I never thought of it that way, but that's exactly what's happening.

Good luck to Robyn. It's only a matter of time until he hates her for it.

[deirdra]

On 9/21/2022 at 6:38 PM, Kbo said:

Ever seen those videos where someone puts a camera on their pets collar to see where they go?  Someone needs to do that to Kody. 

They often come with a map displaying the GPS coordinates of the animal's paths through their territories.  Kootie's would look like a giant scribble of him running around in squiggly circles ... and perhaps unexpected places.

[deirdra]

10 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

It boggles that someone with so many kids would be part of our countries problems!

and keeps boxes full of "books"guns in the homes his kids live in.  Selling the assault rifles in kits so that buyers can assemble the weapons themselves probably gets around some of the legal roadblocks.

Someone on here noticed around the time of the catfishing that Kootie was wearing a logo T-shirt and it was for a gun dealership (in LV, I think) that Kootie had not renewed his license on. Subsequent recaps blurred the logo.  I suspect TLC doesn't want to publicize his gun-running side business and trying to sneak in the logo T-shirt was a bad idea on his part.

Edited September 24, 2022 by deirdra

[BAForever]

Reason #3267 why I hate Kody- he refers to HIS children who are disobeying him as "Janelle's kids" or "Christine's kids". So wrong.  No doubt battle lines have been drawn. It's Robyn, Kody and their 5 vs Janelle and Christine and their kids. Meri is person non grata and Leon is wisely staying out of the fray.

[Absolom]

Yes Kody went so far as to call his chilren a clique.  Wonder where he got that idea.

[gingerella]

21 hours ago, Thistle Howl said:

I think his constant yelling about having to WORK and having RESPONSIBILITIES is a thinly veiled dig at the Original 3 wives. He bitterly resents that the three of them have (mostly) older children and because of that, have the freedom to travel, come and go as they please and time to do more of the things they want to do. Kody thinks if anyone should be having fun, travelling, doing what they want it should be HIM, the MAN, the PRIESTHOOD HOLDER they are all supposed to be bowing down to. Instead, he married Queenie and popped out a couple of super dependent little kids (due to Robyn's mothering), and her older kids are too young/unstable to fill in as babysitters for more than a day at a time (and it's hard to hire someone to do that). He watches the Original 3 living it up and he can't stand that it's not him eating paella in Europe or drinking from a coconut in Hawaii. He's seething with resentment, jealousy, hate, anger, and feels that their enjoying themselves is a direct personal attack against him. Their resources should be for the FAMILY, they should be grovelling around the FAMILY trying to help in any way possible. That's what plural families do! Obedient plural wives are where Kody tells them to be and do what Kody tells them to do. Sorry Kody, the worker bees have turned into new queens and flown the hive, and are starting new hives, and there's nothing you can do about it. 

Brav.O. 👏👏👏

[ginger90]

2021 article about Kody taking care of wives if they got Covid:

https://people.com/tv/sister-wives-meri-brown-doesnt-think-kody-would-care-for-her-if-she-got-covid/

[deirdra]

3 hours ago, ginger90 said:

2021 article about Kody taking care of wives if they got Covid:

https://people.com/tv/sister-wives-meri-brown-doesnt-think-kody-would-care-for-her-if-she-got-covid/

Christine & Janelle first think of protecting others if they got Covid; the first thing Kootie thinks of is himself and how he would have to take care of them.  

[dariafan]

On 9/23/2022 at 3:54 PM, monagatuna said:

That's exactly it. He wants to be seen as a laid-back studly guy with 4 wives that no one can resist. He has long blond hair so of course he's a "surfer dude" despite living in...freaking Arizona. I'd bet the only surfing you'd get done is at a wave pool.

I just started surf lessons, and Sunday we're going to be going over wave etiquette and safety. There's a community among surfers, and you have to be deferential at times, and assertive at others. I can't imagine Kody at one of our beaches. He wouldn't be in the water, he'd be running around the beach in his stupid bedazzled jeans and leaping over beachgoers' towels, frenetically assuring us all how busy and important he is. If he did try to snag a wave, he'd surely bash into other surfers and likely get kicked off the beach. Even though there's no official policing or monitoring of surf etiquette, his fragile little ego would give him the murder eyes after getting yelled at by expert surfers.

But I would love to see it !!

[Joan of Argh]

Here you go ladies a little beefcake for dinner tonight… no fighting… there’s enough for everyone 😂

[Gramto6]

3 minutes ago, Joan of Argh said:

Here you go ladies a little beefcake for dinner tonight… no fighting… there’s enough for everyone 😂

🤮🤢🤢🤮

[Cetacean]

MY EYES MY EYES!!!!!!!

[Dustbunny]

4 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

Here you go ladies a little beefcake for dinner tonight… no fighting… there’s enough for everyone 😂

Kody is sure in love with himself..... 😖

I'll take a hard pass thanks!

[xwordfanatik]

And the showboat outdid that by stripping down to his underwear to dive into the Pond of Poop.  On camera!  

🤮

[dariafan]

19 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

Here you go ladies a little beefcake for dinner tonight… no fighting… there’s enough for everyone 😂

I just ate !!! 

[mythoughtis]

2 hours ago, xwordfanatik said:

And the showboat outdid that by stripping down to his underwear to dive into the Pond of Poop.  On camera!  

🤮

Remember  when they were so prim and proper ( and supposedly modest) about their attire?  Which was supposedly part of their religion?  Yet he has the audacity to criticize Christine for ‘losing her faith’. 

[LilyD]

On 9/23/2022 at 9:54 PM, monagatuna said:

That's exactly it. He wants to be seen as a laid-back studly guy with 4 wives that no one can resist. He has long blond hair so of course he's a "surfer dude" despite living in...freaking Arizona. I'd bet the only surfing you'd get done is at a wave pool.

Remember that episode where they went back to Kody’s hometown and met all his school “pals”? Kody strutted around like a proud peacock with his wives at first. And then it turned out that all of his friends just despised his way of living. They were disgusted by his choices leaving Kody so disappointed, hurt and confused….He really thought he’d be hailed as a super hero.

[deirdra]

21 minutes ago, LilyD said:

Remember that episode where they went back to Kody’s hometown and met all his school “pals”? Kody strutted around like a proud peacock with his wives at first. And then it turned out that all of his friends just despised his way of living. They were disgusted by his choices leaving Kody so disappointed, hurt and confused….He really thought he’d be hailed as a super hero.

Didn't one of them also mention that they thought he was gay in highschool?  He was probably primping all the time and developing his huge wardrobe of shirts, shoes and watches.

[SunnyBeBe]

I’m trying to figure out if Kody has avoided getting vaxxed.  I’ve read a couple things, but not from him. Anyone know? I don’t understand the extreme protocols and then not vaxxing.  It makes no sense. I’ve never heard of that.  

Edited September 26, 2022 by SunnyBeBe

[Joan of Argh]

4 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I’m trying to figure out if Kody has avoided getting vaxxed.  I’ve read a couple things, but not from him. Anyone know? I don’t understand the extreme protocols and then not vaxxing.  It makes no sense. I’ve never heard of that.  

I don’t know if he’s vaxxed or not but if he isn’t maybe it’s because he got Covid from the nanny and doesn’t think he can get it again?

whenever he talks about Covid he’s all over the place with various assumptions 🤷‍♀️

[SunnyBeBe]

59 minutes ago, Joan of Argh said:

I don’t know if he’s vaxxed or not but if he isn’t maybe it’s because he got Covid from the nanny and doesn’t think he can get it again?

whenever he talks about Covid he’s all over the place with various assumptions 🤷‍♀️

That’s unfortunate.  I know someone who’s had it 3 times!  Every time she flies, she gets it, even though she wears a mask.  

[Haute Messe]

What the hell has happened to his face? It looks like he has been injected with embalming fluid.

[Not Buyin It]

On 9/23/2022 at 12:49 PM, Natalie68 said:

What a douchebag. It boggles that someone with so many kids would be part of our countries problems!

This is one of the only things about Kody that DOESN'T bother me. The Second Amendment. So he's a firearms dealer. It's a lucrative field. And no, the GUNS are not the problem. Evil people - that's the problem.

[TurtlePower]

21 hours ago, Not Buyin It said:

This is one of the only things about Kody that DOESN'T bother me. The Second Amendment. So he's a firearms dealer. It's a lucrative field. And no, the GUNS are not the problem. Evil people - that's the problem.

Humans don’t need guns to harm, guns do make it easier (I admittedly have mixed feelings on the issue). NY has strict gun laws and people are still horrible — stabbings, rapes in broad daylight, shoving people down stairs in the subways, shoving people in front of subways, gangs riding around on scooters robbing people, smash and grabs at high-end shops, running people over with vehicles. Even at work I feel threatened on a weekly basis by randoms and I’m alone with no backup. 

Anyway. I don’t recall seeing Kody’s business when we lived in Vegas. We knew lots of the firearms dealers from being in law enforcement. 

[Elizzikra]

1 hour ago, TurtlePower said:

Anyway. I don’t recall seeing Kody’s business when we lived in Vegas. We knew lots of the firearms dealers from being in law enforcement. 

I don't think he has always been in gun sales and I'm not sure when he started. Didn't he used to sell billboard advertising space or something?

[ginger90]

1 hour ago, Elizzikra said:

I don't think he has always been in gun sales and I'm not sure when he started. Didn't he used to sell billboard advertising space or something?

He was the founder of a gun business in Utah in 1997.

Edited September 28, 2022 by ginger90

[Roslyn]

On 9/22/2022 at 7:13 PM, deirdra said:

I'm surprised we didn't see in Christine's garage at least one box labelled Kody's guns.

A very large gun safe was just behind Kody when he was filming himself being bewildered about finding all the boxes in Christine's garage.

[Roslyn]

On 9/23/2022 at 10:53 PM, deirdra said:

 Selling the assault rifles in kits so that buyers can assemble the weapons themselves probably gets around some of the legal roadblocks.

Someone on here noticed around the time of the catfishing that Kootie was wearing a logo T-shirt and it was for a gun dealership (in LV, I think) that Kootie had not renewed his license on. Subsequent recaps blurred the logo.  I suspect TLC doesn't want to publicize his gun-running side business and trying to sneak in the logo T-shirt was a bad idea on his part.

My untrained eye thinks that the "kit" is everything but what makes a firearm go "boom". Every state has its own regulations, I have no idea about Arizona, but Kody has been seen in Oklahoma and Nevada at gun shows.

On an "extra clip" on Instagram (last year?) Kody was in a talking head video saying that his business was "working with metal". At first I thought that he may be a specialist re-loader (person who makes their own ammunition for specialty markets), but by the look of the photos at gun shows it looks like he just buys kits and accessories and sells them, no specialty talent, skills or knowledge needed.

Take it with a grain of salt, but Paedon touched on the subject in true Brown vague speak by saying that Kody (paraphrasing from memory) "has an interest that was once shown on the television show and his interest wasn't well received by fans, so they no longer show or discuss this interest that Kody has anymore." My translation is going back, the wives bought Kody a gun and he had fun shooting it at a shooting range and viewers didn't like it so they decided to not show that again.

While they were moving from Vegas to Flagstaff Kody constantly wore shirts and jackets with the Vegas dealers name on it.  I believe Caleb has also worn the same t-shirts and that was the logo on the hoodie that Kody gave Ysabel when she went for her surgery.

[Joan of Argh]

What a jackass… I guess this was his birthday gun 🤮

[Cetacean]

I don't believe that the Second Amendment supports assault rifles with the sole purpose of killing as many people in the shortest amount of time possible.  Kootie wonders why fans don't support him when the children gunned down in Texas had to be identified by DNA because their heads were blown off.

[Natalie68]

20 minutes ago, Cetacean said:

I don't believe that the Second Amendment supports assault rifles with the sole purpose of killing as many people in the shortest amount of time possible.  Kootie wonders why fans don't support him when the children gunned down in Texas had to be identified by DNA because their heads were blown off.

Um yeah.  Perhaps unpopular opinion, I personally think all those people carrying around large guns to Starbucks, Arby's etc look like little pricked losers.  

[Cetacean]

17 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

Um yeah.  Perhaps unpopular opinion, I personally think all those people carrying around large guns to Starbucks, Arby's etc look like little pricked losers.  

I agree. Making up for tiny little penises.

[LilyD]

Right, today I finally got round to watching the first two episodes. I knew what was coming because of the detailed posts by my fellow snarkers, but I still found myself absolutely shocked by everything he said.

He really is a true gaslighter and an expert at emotional abuse. The way he kept trying to turn the tables on Christine and tried to make her feel as miserable as possible with the mean things he said. The way he tried to put all the blame on Christine. Everything was Christine’s fault. I was impressed by the way Christine handled it, because boy…it wasn’t pretty!

When I think back of the old Christine, I remember a very insecure, slightly immature, jealous and depressed person who at the time still adored Kody. If Kody started his gaslighting and verbal abuse “in a subtle way” and thus undermining Christine’s little self esteem and confidence bit by bit like most abusers do, then I totally get why she stayed for so long. I’m sure Kody programmed her to believe that no one else would have her and that he was the very best she could ever hope for. 
 

It also makes me wonder what he was like with the others. Somehow I cannot imagine Meri allowing him to be this vicious. I’m sure she’d have responded equally vicious and refused to budge. Janelle would probably just ignore his behaviour and go on with whatever she was doing. No idea what he is like with Robyn but she has admitted several times now that she struggles with him a lot…..

Edited October 7, 2022 by LilyD
deleted part as it had copied itself.. glitch?

[Art Of Noiz]

On 9/20/2022 at 1:54 PM, Irate Panda said:

I would love to know where Kody disappears when he leaves Robyn’s because I do think the kids get on his nerves or at least I hope so lol.  Robyn may have most of them keeping sweet but I feel like Little Ariella  might be hell on wheels or that might be me just wishing it so. I wonder if he goes and stands on dirt piles at CP when he’s not hiding in the closet or garage.

My money is on Ariella = Hell on wheels.

[Art Of Noiz]

1 hour ago, LilyD said:

Right, today I finally got round to watching the first two episodes. I knew what was coming because of the detailed posts by my fellow snarkers, but I still found myself absolutely shocked by everything he said.

He really is a true gaslighter and an expert at emotional abuse. The way he kept trying to turn the tables on Christine and tried to make her feel as miserable as possible with the mean things he said. The way he tried to put all the blame on Christine. Everything was Christine’s fault. I was impressed by the way Christine handled it, because boy…it wasn’t pretty!

When I think back of the old Christine, I remember a very insecure, slightly immature, jealous and depressed person who at the time still adored Kody. If Kody started his gaslighting and verbal abuse “in a subtle way” and thus undermining Christine’s little self esteem and confidence bit by bit like most abusers do, then I totally get why she stayed for so long. I’m sure Kody programmed her to believe that no one else would have her and that he was the very best she could ever hope for. 
 

It also makes me wonder what he was like with the others. Somehow I cannot imagine Meri allowing him to be this vicious. I’m sure she’d have responded equally vicious and refused to budge. Janelle would probably just ignore his behaviour and go on with whatever she was doing. No idea what he is like with Robyn but she has admitted several times now that she struggles with him a lot…..

Right, today I finally got round to watching the first two episodes. I knew what was coming because of the detailed posts by my fellow snarkers, but I still found myself absolutely shocked by everything he said.

He really is a true gaslighter and an expert at emotional abuse. The way he kept trying to turn the tables on Christine and tried to make her feel as miserable as possible with the mean things he said. The way he tried to put all the blame on Christine. Everything was Christine’s fault. I was impressed by the way Christine handled it, because boy…it wasn’t pretty!

When I think back of the old Christine, I remember a very insecure, slightly immature, jealous and depressed person who at the time still adored Kody. If Kody started his gaslighting and verbal abuse “in a subtle way” and thus undermining Christine’s little self esteem and confidence bit by bit like most abusers do, then I totally get why she stayed for so long. I’m sure Kody programmed her to believe that no one else would have her and that he was the very best she could ever hope for. 
 

It also makes me wonder what he was like with the others. Somehow I cannot imagine Meri allowing him to be this vicious. I’m sure she’d have responded equally vicious and refused to budge. Janelle would probably just ignore his behaviour and go on with whatever she was doing. No idea what he is like with Robyn but she has admitted several times now that she struggles with him a lot…..

I agree with all of this. Add to this that Robyn said Kody likes curvy women. By encouraging them to be overweight, he probably thinks that will keep their self esteem low. They would be less likely to leave. 

I was with a verbally abusive man who said this. He loved my curves. Until he needed it to use against me. I see this in Kody, just from Robyn's statement during the buying the gym/ Janelle's weight loss journey eps. 

[Joan of Argh]

8 hours ago, Art Of Noiz said:

I agree with all of this. Add to this that Robyn said Kody likes curvy women. By encouraging them to be overweight, he probably thinks that will keep their self esteem low. They would be less likely to leave. 

I was with a verbally abusive man who said this. He loved my curves. Until he needed it to use against me. I see this in Kody, just from Robyn's statement during the buying the gym/ Janelle's weight loss journey eps. 

Exactly and for a guy who prefers curvy women he sure was crazy for slender youthful Robyn…. He couldn’t keep his hands off her and he was obviously over the moon and dreaming of tapping her ass from the start!

I always thought he said that and Robyn repeated it to keep the other 3 dummies off guard and wallowing in their delusions of Kody preferring chubby women.

Edited October 7, 2022 by Joan of Argh
Autocorrect

[Awfarmington]

4 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

Exactly and for a guy who prefers curvy women he sure was crazy for skinny Robyn…. He couldn’t keep his hands off her and he was obviously over the moon and dreaming of tapping her ass from the start!

I always thought he said that and Robyn repeated it to keep the other 3 dummies off guard and wallowing in their delusions of Kody preferring chubby women.

Regarding your second paragraph, I agree. I don’t think Robin even believes that he prefers chubby women at all. She has ulterior motives for everything she says. 
 

If you go back and look at the previous episodes, he and Janelle never had a spicy relationship. They were more partners and a means to an end for Janelle. He also was never attracted to Christine. In fact, he was disgusted by her zest for nachos. The common denominator? Both women were fairly heavy when they married. 

Meri was thinner and from watching the first season, you can see a mutual attraction. 
 

I believe he was extremely attracted to Robin, who was obviously very slender back in the day. And to be honest, the first and only wife he was in love with, IMO.  
 

[LilyD]

22 hours ago, Awfarmington said:

If you go back and look at the previous episodes, he and Janelle never had a spicy relationship. They were more partners and a means to an end for Janelle. He also was never attracted to Christine. In fact, he was disgusted by her zest for nachos. The common denominator? Both women were fairly heavy when they married. 

A thought that occurred to me when I read this bit of your post: When you look at the wives, you see four very different women who only happened to share the same ideas about religion and marriage. It doesn't really feel like Kody had a certain type of woman he felt attracted to in terms of looks, personality and interests. He found something different with every wife until Robyn came along.

 He may have been in love with Meri but they had little in common in terms of personality and interests but loved to travel together. Janelle did offer friendship, mutual understanding and an income. Neither were housewives or particularly interested in being a hands-on mom. So that was Christine's role. It was all very convenient for him.

So why did he marry them, apart from religious reasons? Personally, I think he never fully grasped the concept of marrying someone for the right reasons until he met Robyn. As if a notion of "you and I could work together and you can be what I need" is enough to propose and get married..... And then Robyn came along, completely blowing him away and make him fall madly in love with him. She also seems to feel what he needs and what to say to keep him happy. I don't think Kody realised this existed until he met Robyn.

[invisiblegirl12]

On 9/26/2022 at 4:55 PM, Joan of Argh said:

I don’t know if he’s vaxxed or not but if he isn’t maybe it’s because he got Covid from the nanny and doesn’t think he can get it again?

whenever he talks about Covid he’s all over the place with various assumptions

This is the same guy that told his teens that hormones pass through their mouths when they kiss someone. Not sure their Homeschool Science curriculum can be trusted.

[Aspenglow]

Does this “man” and his one wife know how much they are loathed? 

[SunnyBeBe]

1 hour ago, LilyD said:

A thought that occurred to me when I read this bit of your post: When you look at the wives, you see four very different women who only happened to share the same ideas about religion and marriage. It doesn't really feel like Kody had a certain type of woman he felt attracted to in terms of looks, personality and interests. He found something different with every wife until Robyn came along.

 He may have been in love with Meri but they had little in common in terms of personality and interests but loved to travel together. Janelle did offer friendship, mutual understanding and an income. Neither were housewives or particularly interested in being a hands-on mom. So that was Christine's role. It was all very convenient for him.

So why did he marry them, apart from religious reasons? Personally, I think he never fully grasped the concept of marrying someone for the right reasons until he met Robyn. As if a notion of "you and I could work together and you can be what I need" is enough to propose and get married..... And then Robyn came along, completely blowing him away and make him fall madly in love with him. She also seems to feel what he needs and what to say to keep him happy. I don't think Kody realised this existed until he met Robyn.

Maybe…..I’m just trying to wrap my brain around it.  A lid for every pot, I guess.  

[SunnyBeBe]

On 9/28/2022 at 3:43 PM, Joan of Argh said:

What a jackass… I guess this was his birthday gun 🤮

Do we have context on it?  Is it real?  I wanna say it looks like it could be a power tool with a gun look for novelty purposes.  I know…..weird, but to have that aimed near a building is just insane.  

[Irate Panda]

1 hour ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Do we have context on it?  Is it real?  I wanna say it looks like it could be a power tool with a gun look for novelty purposes.  I know…..weird, but to have that aimed near a building is just insane.  

I think this was the gun the wives bought him for Christmas it might have been after he was grumpy the one year they got him a computer.  But I think he told Robyn he wanted the gun so the wives bought it for him together because it cost a few thousand dollars.

Edited October 8, 2022 by Irate Panda

[CherryFerry]

9 hours ago, invisiblegirl12 said:

This is the same guy that told his teens that hormones pass through their mouths when they kiss someone. Not sure their Homeschool Science curriculum can be trusted.

They do! He was right on the science. Kissing can exchange certain hormones like testosterone or oestrogen and also increases dopamine and oxytocin in the individuals. Same as holding hands, looking into each others eyes and cuddling. 

Oxytocin is called 'the cuddle/bonding hormone'. It's a major factor in intimate romantic/sexual relationships and in bonding parents to newborns. Women naturally have a flood of oxytocin during and after childbirth to bond them to the newborn and skin to skin contact for both parent is designed to promote oxytocin production.

Dopamine is also a 'reward' hormone for the brain. So the individual wants more of it. 

Which was what he was cautioning against - intimate physical activity creates hormones that promote bonding to the other person.

He's annoying as hell but not wrong in this regard scientifically.

He did say 'people can look it up' but it seems most people didn't bother lol.  

[GeeGolly]

18 minutes ago, CherryFerry said:

They do! He was right on the science. Kissing can exchange certain hormones like testosterone or oestrogen and also increases dopamine and oxytocin in the individuals. Same as holding hands, looking into each others eyes and cuddling. 

Oxytocin is called 'the cuddle/bonding hormone'. It's a major factor in intimate romantic/sexual relationships and in bonding parents to newborns. Women naturally have a flood of oxytocin during and after childbirth to bond them to the newborn and skin to skin contact for both parent is designed to promote oxytocin production.

Dopamine is also a 'reward' hormone for the brain. So the individual wants more of it. 

Which was what he was cautioning against - intimate physical activity creates hormones that promote bonding to the other person.

He's annoying as hell but not wrong in this regard scientifically.

He did say 'people can look it up' but it seems most people didn't bother lol.  

I so didn't know about the sharing of hormones through saliva.

It seems Kody still had it wrong though. He was saying the sharing of saliva increased the desire for sex, which is not true. We all know, and as you included in your post, physicals closeness releases our own happy chemicals in our brains. As does emotional closeness. 

So for sure, kissing can make one horny, but the cause is not due to swapping spit.

[CherryFerry]

37 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

I so didn't know about the sharing of hormones through saliva.

It seems Kody still had it wrong though. He was saying the sharing of saliva increased the desire for sex, which is not true. We all know, and as you included in your post, physicals closeness releases our own happy chemicals in our brains. As does emotional closeness. 

So for sure, kissing can make one horny, but the cause is not due to swapping spit.

https://pearlrejuvenation.com/how-to-master-the-science-of-a-kiss/

'Salivary hormones exchanged in a French kiss, such as testosterone can boost libido. This effect can be meaningful when even small amounts of testosterone in men’s saliva  kissing are transmitted to women. In women, testosterone controls all aspects of sexual function from libido, to arousal to orgasm. So do as the French do- open mouth kissing could be good for your sex drive and your hormones" 

Sorry, Kody is correct.

[LilyD]

 Correct or not, it was definitely cringe-worthy and by far the worst approach I’ve ever heard or seen when it comes to educating your kids on love and sexuality!

That Kody lecture on kissing was as bad as his lecture on saving toilet paper and fold one single sheet to a teeny tiny square to wipe his ehm…. holy exit… 🤢

[Fosca]

I just spent about 15 minutes (not long, I know) checking the scientific literature for "kissing exchanges hormones" and can't find anything, although I do find lots of how kissing increases production of hormones.  I know I can't count on cite like HuffPost to cite sources, but it sure would be nice to see where they got that from.

[GeeGolly]

33 minutes ago, CherryFerry said:

https://pearlrejuvenation.com/how-to-master-the-science-of-a-kiss/

'Salivary hormones exchanged in a French kiss, such as testosterone can boost libido. This effect can be meaningful when even small amounts of testosterone in men’s saliva  kissing are transmitted to women. In women, testosterone controls all aspects of sexual function from libido, to arousal to orgasm. So do as the French do- open mouth kissing could be good for your sex drive and your hormones" 

Sorry, Kody is correct.

The article is on a website basically for lip injections. I find this theory much the same a saying the tryptophan in turkey induces naps.