S25.E04: Week 4

[bosawks]

7 minutes ago, saber5055 said:

Matt has dead fish eyes.

What did dead fish ever do to you!?!?

[tennisgurl]

Katie is just everyone's therapist now, go figure. She went from vibrator girl to Dr. Katie, Voice of Reason. 

Edited January 26, 2021 by tennisgurl

[Adeejay]

I can't believe I am saying this, but I am starting to like Katie.  She appears to be a good person and also a voice of reason.  

[DEL901]

Boxing?   How could that possibly go wrong?

[tennisgurl]

My moneys on Kit. I feel like Kit fights dirty. 

[EllenB]

Kit's downward-facing mini-"whoo" was the least enthusiastic - and most hilarious - thing I've seen this season.

[saber5055]

I would totally say NO WAY IN HELL to a boxing "date." Nothing good can come of this fiasco.

Now Wells is a fight expert? Gah.

[JenE4]

2 minutes ago, saber5055 said:

You mean you pick her to "win" getting married to carp-mouth dead-fish-eye Mr. No Personality Matt James? You're cruel!

I want Victoria to win that prize. Everyone else deserves better.

I see what you’re saying, but Matt was actually a different person with her! He lit up around Michelle and seemed more engaged and engaging. His kissing didn’t even seem like a fish-face—but maybe that was just because they had a better camera angle in the tight balloon basket.

[bosawks]

Who would’ve thought the one with the vibrator would be the most relaxed about all this?

Actually, in retrospect must of us would’ve thought this....

[saber5055]

Someone gave Anna a lipstick!

I guess two women fighting is some male fantasy.

[tennisgurl]

They are just begging for even more drama aren't they? This is going to go so badly I cant even. 

[Crashcourse]

I wish these women had gotten together and refused to do this, and any guy who would sit and watch is an ass.  

[dizzyd]

Props to Matt for putting an end to that shit!

[TheFinalRose]

1 minute ago, saber5055 said:

I would totally say NO WAY IN HELL to a boxing "date." Nothing good can come of this fiasco.

Now Wells is a fight expert? Gah.

Don't you mean finasco ™ Hannah Ann?

[DEL901]

Matt is shocked that the women went at it hard?   What did he think was going to happen?   He really is an idiot.  

[Crashcourse]

1 minute ago, dizzyd said:

Props to Matt for putting an end to that shit!

He should never have wanted it in the first place.  Asshole.

[saber5055]

1 minute ago, Crashcourse said:

I wish these women had gotten together and refused to do this, and any guy who would sit and watch is an ass.  

SO MUCH THIS.

[JenE4]

6 minutes ago, saber5055 said:

I would totally say NO WAY IN HELL to a boxing "date." Nothing good can come of this fiasco.

Now Wells is a fight expert? Gah.

 

4 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

I wish these women had gotten together and refused to do this, and any guy who would sit and watch is an ass.  

Exactly! This is insane. No way in hell would I box. It’s ridiculous that not one person stood up and said there’s no way in hell that I’m doing this, and the fact that you would expect your “future wife” to get punched in the f’ing face makes me question that you’re not the right person for me.

Edited January 26, 2021 by JenE4

[tennisgurl]

Is Matt just utterly lacking in understand of any situation ever? Is he just straight up stupid?  Is he just reading off a script? "Wow, this boxing match we set up to put a bunch of women who are competing against each other and have had a ton of personal drama lately against each other is getting violent and people are getting hurt? I am shocked, shocked!" 

[CraftyHazel]

I’m old, obviously, because no way in hell would I ever have agreed to this date.  I’m not putting on boxing gloves and getting in a ring to fight for ANY man.

[phlebas]

47 minutes ago, Sepalma23 said:

I also came here to say that she has a “looks like she smelled a fart” face every time they show her 🤣

that's a better comparison than i had. mine was "could strain the hell out of some krill when she swims in the ocean."

[GracieK]

Has anyone here pointed out the Kit/Queen’s Gambit resemblance yet?

 

[Irlandesa]

9 minutes ago, saber5055 said:

You mean you pick her to "win" getting married to carp-mouth dead-fish-eye Mr. No Personality Matt James? You're cruel!

I could see her as the next Bachelorette.   I doubt she'd be chosen but I like her.  And her arms were amazing...like she lifts weights.

4 minutes ago, JenE4 said:

I see what you’re saying, but Matt was actually a different person with her! He lit up around Michelle and seemed more engaged and engaging. His kissing didn’t even seem like a fish-face—but maybe that was just because they had a better camera angle in the tight balloon basket.

Glad you said that because I also thought he seemed to have more personality on their date. But then I thought maybe I just forgot moments of being alive in previous weeks.

[tennisgurl]

I have no idea how much the Bachelor/ette can influence the dates they go on (like when Clare was saying how the strip dodgeball date wasn't her choice when she got backlash) but the boxing date was a bad look. Yeah, lets have the women get into a literal cat fight after being in metaphorical ones for weeks, all over a guy who is sitting there watching! 

Edited January 26, 2021 by tennisgurl

[JenE4]

Here comes Matt in yet another turtleneck and jacket combo. I didn’t even know that you can still get turtlenecks nowadays—let alone approximately a dozen turtlenecks and counting.

[DEL901]

So has Matt kissed all the women except a couple of the new ones....and Victoria.  

[saber5055]

3 minutes ago, JenE4 said:

the fact that you would expect your “future wife” to get punched in the f’ing fave makes me question that you’re not the right person for me.

I didn't need the boxing "date" to clue me into the fact that he's not the right person for me. Any woman he chooses, if he picks anyone, is the loser IMO. Worst.Bach.EVAH.

[phlebas]

Boxing. Great date, Matt.

whoever loses the most teeth gets extra time!

[EllenB]

I just noticed that even in a substantial mock-neck, Matt has a LOT of neck sticking out of it. Like giraffe-level lots.

[bosawks]

Matt’s laugh is beginning to morph into the Count’s laugh from Sesame Street.

[dizzyd]

Has there been anyone that Matt hasn’t kissed?

So when Victoria comes on I mute and now she’s talking to Anna who I also want to mute, but I had captions on and even the captions bleeped their conversation 😂

[Stats Queen]

4 minutes ago, tennisgurl said:

Is Matt just utterly lacking in understand of any situation ever? Is he just straight up stupid? 

Is this a binary choice? I hope not because I say yes to both?

He’s just so “blah?” Some else sure has a better description of him.

[tennisgurl]

Yeah, this is getting so mean girls so fast, its really unpleasant. Of course, the real villains here are the producers, who added these new women just to create even more cheap drama. 

With Matt's track record, he will probably send Katie home for telling him about the bullying. 

[Crashcourse]

Just now, tennisgurl said:

I have no idea how much the Bachelor/ette can influence the dates they go on (like when Clare was saying how the strip dodgeball date wasn't her choice when she got backlash) but the boxing date was a bad look. 

I think there was also a stupid boxing match on Clare's season. 

I think that if the Bachelor/ette truly has a problem with some of these "dates" they feel are humiliating or dangerous, that he/she would have some input and the ability to express their displeasure.   I just don't think that they do.

[Bluesky]

They sure picked some low rent women to add to the pack.  
 

Michelle is the only with a chance.  

Edited January 26, 2021 by Bluesky

[JenE4]

Go, Katie! My husband and I just binged all three seasons of Cobra Kai, and this is just like when the kids at one dojo get so toxic that some of the “bad kids” realize it’s gone too far and switch dojos to join the “good kids.” So I’m Team Katie and New Girls and whomever is kind and introspective enough to realize the mean girls are toxic and join Team Here to Make Friends. I’d rather be friends with a hooker than these trash bitches.

[Irlandesa]

7 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

I think that if the Bachelor/ette truly has a problem with some of these "dates" they feel are humiliating or dangerous, that he/she would have some input and the ability to express their displeasure.   I just don't think that they do.

I think the dates are set up in advance and I'd be surprised if the bachelor/ette learns about the date much earlier than the contestants. 

But the leads aren't chosen for their pushback nature.   They want go alongs.

If Michelle is a teacher,  did she take time off of work or is she doing a virtual classroon?

Edited January 26, 2021 by Irlandesa

[saber5055]

2 minutes ago, JenE4 said:

I’d rather be friends with a hooker than these trash bitches.

I think a hooker would make an interesting friend. And a better one than QV. Or Anna.

[TiredMe]

That ending! Even his dancing is boring. 
 

and Anne has officially taken the grumpy cat face crown from andi dorfman. I hope she really pays attention when watching how she looks.

[Adeejay]

In all fairness, The Bachelor/ette isn't responsible for planning the dates.  I am glad that Matt has been giving Chris credit for the "awesome" dates. As far as Matt being dull, boring, bland and a bad kisser, with the exception of maybe Andrew Firestone, I believe all the others were labeled as such and worst.  Nothing new.  

[nutty1]

2 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

In all fairness, The Bachelor/ette isn't responsible for planning the dates.  I am glad that Matt has been giving Chris credit for the "awesome" dates. As far as Matt being dull, boring, bland and a bad kisser, with the exception of maybe Andrew Firestone, I believe all the others were labeled as such and worst.  Nothing new.  

Andrew Firestone remains my favorite!!

[Adeejay]

15 minutes ago, nutty1 said:

Andrew Firestone remains my favorite!!

Mine too!

[saber5055]

22 minutes ago, TiredMe said:

That ending! Even his dancing is boring. 

Oh, man, that was cringe worthy. He made Elaine Benes look like Ginger Rogers.

[Bluesky]

44 minutes ago, DEL901 said:

So has Matt kissed all the women except a couple of the new ones....and Victoria.  

He is almost repulsed by Victoria and doesn’t try or can’t hide it.   She’ll be on as long as the show needs her.  

[Quickbeam]

I think Anna has adopted that stink face as a habit....someone needs to hand her a mirror. She’s a pretty girl but it makes her look really unattractive. 
 

Chelsea and her journey to natural hair was my winner of the night. Seriously, I like her a lot.  She’s really too good for this dud. 

[Stats Queen]

What I find incredibly disappointing was that COVID was an actor in the last bachelorette show and this version of the Bachelor and what a striking difference.

What I liked about the bachelorette after Claire made her exit - because of quarantine there was nothing else to focus on so they focused on realness, especially the contestants relationships with each other as well as Tayshia. It was so refreshing because not only did we actually learn a lot about these contestants as individuals, we learned so much about them as actual human beings including how they interacted with others - be it fellow contestants and/or the bachelorette.

It made them real and relatable, and we remembered their names because we learned about them as individual, actual human beings.

Now comes this dreck of the bachelor and his season with TPTB rehashing awful, stereotypical tropes that is is a farce of itself (which was a farce to begin with). Tonight, we have more of Queen Victoria - WTH?, and yet more contestants when we don’t even know the names of most of the current contestants. And yet, they bring in more contestants. Thank goodness Miss Puerto Rico was wearing her sash because I can’t remember the names of the majority of the original contestants. Why? Because the producers chose them to charactures of various stereotypes rather than actual human beings.

 

[Bluesky]

Shut up Katie, you signed up for a reality show where women were chosen based on looks.   No one likes a tattle tale.   Its ridiculous to be hostile to these women but it is pretty much a competition.  It’s not cool to call someone an escort, especially based on rumors,  but who appointed Katie Girl Scout leader? 

But plenty of younger women take advantage of older men, sometimes married, who take them on expensive trips, expensive restaurants, buy them expensive gifts.   I know a few who plaster their trips on Instagram.  You never see the guy they’re with, he’s always anonymous.  

[EllenB]

In Bachelor/ette terms, let's have a cheers to Katie! I love anyone who stands up to or outs bullies and mean girls. There are always a few producer plants and natural rotten apples on any season, but this bunch has gotten out of control really fast. Good for Katie for speaking up and trying to be decent.

[Arkay]

I think Chelsea looks much more beautiful with her natural hair than she did in the picture with her hair straightened.

I can understand that the girls who have been there for weeks are really distressed to have five new girls enter the fray. I CANNOT stand hearing them call themselves the "O.G"s 10,000 times. Clearly the girls were brought in to raise the level of drama, but who's to say they have any less right to be there? It's all production's decision, and Chris Harrison thinking he's done something innovative. 

I don't think Michelle is that attractive, but at least as far as we were shown, she and Matt seemed much more comfortable together than he is with the other girls. Just the way he teased her about "winning" the zip ride was a lot more natural than he's been with most of the other women. 

[Madding crowd]

I think it was great that Katie said something even though the messenger always gets blamed. Calling Sarah trash and making up rumors as well as telling women to get out is bullying and ridiculous. The new women had no say on when they were brought in, so why not yell at Chris Harrison instead.

And Kit, speaking as someone who lives in Chicago, we have millions of people here and all girls don’t know each other. She may be stylish but doesn’t seem too bright. Matt and Michelle seemed to get along great but I wonder why he was immediately drawn to her; she is average looking. Nothing wrong with average but something interested him enough to want a one on one date. I almost wondered if they had already met but since she is from Minnesota it isn’t likely. I really hope Victoria is sent packing next week.