S04.E03: Invitation to the Gender Reveal

[Guest]

Airs January 3, 2021

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Jessica worries Reanna may be going into early labour. Tyra is furious that Julie's internet boyfriend has moved in. Myrka invites her mum to her gender reveal party. Jenna refuses to move her pet rabbit's cage to make room for a new crib.

 

[LibertarianSlut]

Myrka’s mom—“teenage pregnancy is not something to be celebrated.”  Yup, that’s about the size of it.  

Reanna’s mom is taking way too much glee about her daughter being in pain.  I don’t get that.  I think she looks at it as a rite of passage, which is so weird.  What a creepy, lumpy family.  They think it’s time to break the cycle now, not 40 years ago?  Reanna’s symptoms and misery are so palpable through the screen that it makes me not want to have a baby...and I’m older than her mom, so, job well done on that front, show.  Also, if Reanna is in that much pain, but Taron needs to know that his baby might be coming, why doesn’t Reanna’s mom, the over involved genius, make herself useful and pick up the phone and send him a text?  That was hopefully manufactured drama.  

Big shock that Alex didn’t confront his mom about her online boyfriend moving in with his infant daughter, because he doesn’t want anyone to be mad at him.  What did Tyra see in him in the first place?  This is a situation where she might have to leave college to come home and watch her kid.  I didn’t realize Tyra was away at school and coming home on the weekends.  That seems like something that has to be deferred in this situation.  Alex seems useless.  

I know this is damning with faint praise, but at least Jenna’s dad seems able to articulate a thought, and I think he doesn’t have mixed feelings about this, the way some of the other (grand)parents do—he clearly thinks it’s wrong, but he’s doing the best he can to support them now that it happened.  I think he was refusing to turn the guest room into a nursery because he didn’t want the baby living with them to be a permanent situation—I think he wanted Jenna and Aden and their baby to get their own apartment.  That was the vibe that I was getting, I and I agreed with him, and I wish he hadn’t backed down.  

Ethan’s parents (of Myrka and Ethan) seem unhealthily ok with this.  Who gives a shit about a “gender reveal” party for kid or adult parents?  Like, people are supposed to attend and bring presents like it’s something newsworthy?  The baby is either a boy or a girl, both of which are familiar concepts.  Self-important much?   If it was an “alien or person” reveal, I could see the theatre in that.  

[Chellichik]

14 minutes ago, LibertarianSlut said:

Myrka’s mom—“teenage pregnancy is not something to be celebrated.”  Yup, that’s about the size of it.  

I wanted to stand up and cheer when she said this!  It's so very true.  Making these idiot teens the "stars" of a big party and celebrating their "accomplishment" is just wrong.  Ethan's parents seem way more happy and excited than they should be that their son is a teen dad.

I loved Tyra's sisters comments.  Yes, she may be jealous that Tyra is away at college while she is stuck at home with a baby and seemingly no life, but Tyra should be HOME taking care of her daughter and attending a local school.  She is first and foremost a MOTHER and needs to give up her ridiculous cheerleading hobby and take care of her daughter.

Edited January 4, 2021 by Chellichik

[SuseQ]

46 minutes ago, LibertarianSlut said:

Myrka’s mom—“teenage pregnancy is not something to be celebrated.”  Yup, that’s about the size of it.  

Reanna’s mom is taking way too much glee about her daughter being in pain.  I don’t get that.  I think she looks at it as a rite of passage, which is so weird.  What a creepy, lumpy family.  They think it’s time to break the cycle now, not 40 years ago?  Reanna’s symptoms and misery are so palpable through the screen that it makes me not want to have a baby...and I’m older than her mom, so, job well done on that front, show.  Also, if Reanna is in that much pain, but Taron needs to know that his baby might be coming, why doesn’t Reanna’s mom, the over involved genius, make herself useful and pick up the phone and send him a text?  That was hopefully manufactured drama.  

Big shock that Alex didn’t confront his mom about her online boyfriend moving in with his infant daughter, because he doesn’t want anyone to be mad at him.  What did Tyra see in him in the first place?  This is a situation where she might have to leave college to come home and watch her kid.  I didn’t realize Tyra was away at school and coming home on the weekends.  That seems like something that has to be deferred in this situation.  Alex seems useless.  

I know this is damning with faint praise, but at least Jenna’s dad seems able to articulate a thought, and I think he doesn’t have mixed feelings about this, the way some of the other (grand)parents do—he clearly thinks it’s wrong, but he’s doing the best he can to support them now that it happened.  I think he was refusing to turn the guest room into a nursery because he didn’t want the baby living with them to be a permanent situation—I think he wanted Jenna and Aden and their baby to get their own apartment.  That was the vibe that I was getting, I and I agreed with him, and I wish he hadn’t backed down.  

Ethan’s parents (of Myrka and Ethan) seem unhealthily ok with this.  Who gives a shit about a “gender reveal” party for kid or adult parents?  Like, people are supposed to attend and bring presents like it’s something newsworthy?  The baby is either a boy or a girl, both of which are familiar concepts.  Self-important much?   If it was an “alien or person” reveal, I could see the theatre in that.  

I agree with you. Jenna is the worst! She is beyond entitled. Has no humility or gratitude. Her father should not have given in about the room. Who cares is Jenna is cramped in her room?! She's the one who got pregnant. It's her fault. I despise her.

Myrka’s mother is correct. And has a spine. 
 

 

 

[Chellichik]

Oh - forgot to add that I feel sorry for Bun Bun no matter what happens to him.  No way in hell would I allow him to be left in a garage with predator animals yet I doubt Jenna takes proper care of him anyways.  Rabbits are social animals and really should be kept in pairs, if possible.  I wonder how much time he spends outside of that small cage.

[jacksgirl]

6 hours ago, SuseQ said:

 

Myrka’s mother is correct. And has a spine. 
 

 

 

SuseQ,  you are correct. I hate that the original Teen moms got rich from unplanned pregnancies.  The reality is, there is an innocent baby coming into the world. They will need clothes, diapers, crib, car seat,  etc. What they get from the shower benefits a baby. Myrka's mom is heartless.

Edited January 4, 2021 by jacksgirl

[Adiba]

1 hour ago, jacksgirl said:

SuseQ,  you are correct. I hate that the original Teen moms got rich from unplanned pregnancies.  The reality is, there is an innocent baby coming into the world. They will need clothes, diapers, crib, car seat,  etc. What they get from the shower benefits a baby. Myrka's mom is heartless.

Exactly--teen pregnancy shouldn't be "celebrated" but the reality is, there is an innocent, helpless human being on the way who didn't ask or cause this. Yes, Myrka could (and probably should) choose adoption. Either way though, a baby needs things. That's the reality. 

I hope Myrka's mother does not need any help in her old age--it may become time for her bill to become due.

[Chris Knight]

Jenna is the biggest brat who ever lived, and dumb as a post. Her Dad should throw her and her rabbit out in the street. I can't believe she's keeping the rabbit in her room but putting the baby in its own room. At least for the 1st few weeks, the baby should be in her room but I am sure she will expect her Dad and stepmom to handle night feedings. This girl is so entitled, I can't stand it.

I like Tyra but she needs to forget cheer, move home and enroll in online school. She's choosing cheer over Layla's safety. I couldn't believe her sister said if she doesn't watch her tone, they may not pickup Layla if needed in the future. Seriously, you'd let your niece possibly be harmed because you're mad at your sis ? Holy cow.

Reanna - someone mentioned last week that she looks like a little person. I agree, her features are a little strange/syndromey. I am the same age as her grandma and cannot imagine the cycle of teen pregnancy that family has allowed to happen. Reanna's mom almost looked like she was gonna laugh when telling us about the anal surgery Reanna had as an infant. WTH.

I am somewhat on Lilliana's side with Ethan and Myrka's situation. I would not throw my child out if there was a teen pg but I would absolutely not be in favor of a gender reveal or even a shower. It is not something to celebrate and well- meaning friends and family will give diapers and other supplies without needing a party.

These girls and boys are all so naive. In the immortal words of Roseanne, let's see how fun and romantic it is "when you've got a screaming baby with a loaded diaper " and the rest of the world is at work/school and you are on your own. 

 

[Marisagf]

9 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

Myrka’s mom—“teenage pregnancy is not something to be celebrated.”  Yup, that’s about the size of it.  

Ethan’s parents (of Myrka and Ethan) seem unhealthily ok with this.  Who gives a shit about a “gender reveal” party for kid or adult parents?  Like, people are supposed to attend and bring presents like it’s something newsworthy?  The baby is either a boy or a girl, both of which are familiar concepts.  Self-important much?   If it was an “alien or person” reveal, I could see the theatre in that.  

I really would like to know Myrka's mom's story.  Do we know what kind of job(s) she has that keeps her working 11 hours a day?  I'm genuinely curious.  She is very religious and seem conservative, yet she advocated for termination.  Fascinating!  She would suggest that to spare her daughter the hardship of being a teen mom.  Good for her for suggesting options.  I wonder if the Myrka didn't terminate since her mom was so in favor of it and she wasn't hearing anything mom was saying.  So she was defiant and said, "I will do what I want!"

Ethan seems like a nice kid and his parents are probably excited about a grandchild no matter the situation.  But the gender parties and baby showers are over the top for this situation.  My mother would attend baby showers, but she didn't really believe in throwing them for any of my sisters.  She was superstitious; what if something happened to the baby during child birth or in the early days?  She preferred to visit the baby and mom or send a gift after the child was born.  Then you'd know what they need or want.  Not a bad way of looking at it.

9 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

Reanna’s mom is taking way too much glee about her daughter being in pain.  I don’t get that.  I think she looks at it as a rite of passage, which is so weird.  What a creepy, lumpy family.  They think it’s time to break the cycle now, not 40 years ago?  Reanna’s symptoms and misery are so palpable through the screen that it makes me not want to have a baby...and I’m older than her mom, so, job well done on that front, show.  Also, if Reanna is in that much pain, but Taron needs to know that his baby might be coming, why doesn’t Reanna’s mom, the over involved genius, make herself useful and pick up the phone and send him a text?  That was hopefully manufactured drama.  

Was it Reanna's grandmother who is 51?  OMG!!!!  I'm 53 and this woman looks about 15 years older than I do!  I cannot believe it!  That cycle is just sad, but probably predictable.  

9 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

Big shock that Alex didn’t confront his mom about her online boyfriend moving in with his infant daughter, because he doesn’t want anyone to be mad at him.  What did Tyra see in him in the first place?  This is a situation where she might have to leave college to come home and watch her kid.  I didn’t realize Tyra was away at school and coming home on the weekends.  That seems like something that has to be deferred in this situation.  Alex seems useless.  

I'm a Tyra fan. despite the fact that her whole family is on the teen mom trajectory.  I applaud her for trying to go to school and better her lot in life.  Do we know if she is in a two year or four year program?  I like her and she seems to have her head on her shoulders when it comes to her baby.  Yes, she should be making the compromise to go to school closer to home, but if she has a support system willing to help her and accept her choice to go to school out of town, why not?  Also, if it's a two year program and she is only 2.5 hours outside of town, it's not the worst situation.  She could probably come home every other day, if she wanted to.  Does she have a dorm room?  Alex could go there a couple of nights a week with the baby, as long as the rules allow.  (Or she could get an exemption)  What I'm saying is that if it's a two year program and she's got a dorm room, she can make this work with Alex's help.  But he seems pretty useless.  What else does he have going on?

10 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

I know this is damning with faint praise, but at least Jenna’s dad seems able to articulate a thought, and I think he doesn’t have mixed feelings about this, the way some of the other (grand)parents do—he clearly thinks it’s wrong, but he’s doing the best he can to support them now that it happened.  I think he was refusing to turn the guest room into a nursery because he didn’t want the baby living with them to be a permanent situation—I think he wanted Jenna and Aden and their baby to get their own apartment.  That was the vibe that I was getting, I and I agreed with him, and I wish he hadn’t backed down.  

When I saw the description for tonight's episode and it said that Jenna didn't want to move her pet rabbit for her baby's crib, I was incredulous.  This girl is beyond selfish and entitled!  I would love to see her get tossed out of her house (a la Myrka) and see where she lands.  She infuriates me with her manner of speech and her manipulation.  You are about to have a BABY, you moron!  Never mind your pet rabbit!  Who gets priority here?  

[Pepper Mostly]

14 minutes ago, Marisagf said:

When I saw the description for tonight's episode and it said that Jenna didn't want to move her pet rabbit for her baby's crib, I was incredulous.  This girl is beyond selfish and entitled!  I would love to see her get tossed out of her house (a la Myrka) and see where she lands.  She infuriates me with her manner of speech and her manipulation.  You are about to have a BABY, you moron!  Never mind your pet rabbit!  Who gets priority here?  

I wish I had a picture of myself during Jenna's scenes. My mouth was hanging open the whole time, I'm sure. What a nasty, unpleasant, selfish, whiny, spoiled, thoughtless little witch. "I'm not going to rearrange my furniture!" "I'm not giving up BunBun" "My baby deserves a room". I'm just--what? And her stupid, spineless, pushover father! He is the author of this mess. 

And as I say every season of this shitshow, what is with these teenage boys moving in and playing house with the girls they've knocked up? There is no way I would allow my minor child to move in with the family of his pregnant girlfriend! Never mind letting my daughter move her boyfriend in and expect me to support him. Sweet tap dancing Jesus. 

[Poohbear617]

I know I mentioned it last week but Tyra is there for cheerleading more than she's there for her education. I looked up and found numerous colleges that were much much closer to her home where she could get an education in fact she's only 25 miles away from Western Kentucky University which offers two-year degrees and 4 years degrees. She's going to campbellvilles college strictly so that she can do her cheerleading and I'm sorry when you have a baby as a teenager your cheerleading days are over, that is the sacrifice you're making for your child that you don't get to be a cheerleader anymore it sucks I know.  Yes the father would probably be able to go off and get an athletic scholarship and such and its not fair but the way that she is carrying on here then she should switch schools.  My niece went to Western Kentucky University there's all kinds of student aid and grants and everything to help you so she could stop all this immediately by choosing to go to a major university  within 25 miles of her home, education is more important than cheerleading

I havw had it with Jenna. I just can't, I have never wanted to just smack somebody up the head in my life. WHen she honestly told her dad don't touch that when it came to moving around pieces of the equipment in her room i could not believe that.  I could not imagine telling my dad that even now and hes been gone for 30 years. That Is her dad's house who buys and pays for everything including your dim-witted boyfriend I think my jaw dropped open when I heard the dad ask the boyfriend what side of the bed did she sleep  I don't even think my dad would have asked that question of my husband  much less if I was a teenager playing house  I don't get it. 

[StatisticalOutlier]

3 hours ago, Adiba said:

Exactly--teen pregnancy shouldn't be "celebrated" but the reality is, there is an innocent, helpless human being on the way who didn't ask or cause this. Yes, Myrka could (and probably should) choose adoption. Either way though, a baby needs things. That's the reality.

Ethan's parents are volunteering to raise this kid.  Maybe they should provide the things the baby needs.  And if they can't, then maybe they should butt out.

But this the substitute for the gender reveal party Ethan's mother didn't get to have for herself.  That's the reality.

 

2 hours ago, Marisagf said:

I wonder if the Myrka didn't terminate since her mom was so in favor of it and she wasn't hearing anything mom was saying.  So she was defiant and said, "I will do what I want!"

And she could do that because the only "consequence" was that she started living with a family like the ones she sees in the movies. 

 

2 hours ago, Marisagf said:

When I saw the description for tonight's episode and it said that Jenna didn't want to move her pet rabbit for her baby's crib, I was incredulous.  This girl is beyond selfish and entitled!

 

And why is that?  Because her father lets her.  I hate him as much as I hate her.

[Mr. Miner]

Jenna's stepmom is doing a pretty good job hiding it, but you can just see the hatred simmering below the surface.

[Adiba]

1 hour ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

Ethan's parents are volunteering to raise this kid.  Maybe they should provide the things the baby needs.  And if they can't, then maybe they should butt out.

But this the substitute for the gender reveal party Ethan's mother didn't get to have for herself.  That's the reality.

 

 

I don't agree with the gender reveal thing--I think it's pointless, anyway--but good on Ethan's parents for trying to at least help. Many teen dads get to go on living their lives as if nothing happened. That doesn't mean I agree with making it easy--but there is a huge spectrum of helping between buying a car (Jenna's Dad), parties, etc. and Myrka's "mom" washing her hands of the situation. Because, as I said before, Myrka is legally a minor and the is another innocent human being on the way. The financial responsibility usually falls on taxpayers.

Myrna's mother seems as if she resents having her kids--maybe she should have chosen not to have children in the first place. Other options were open to her, too. 

As for the last part of your reply--yes that may well be the reason that Ethan's mom is wanting the party--but that is only part of the reality. There are bigger issues at stake here besides making a point or punishing a girl who dared to have unprotected sex.

Edited January 4, 2021 by Adiba
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[TeapotWakeen]

I agree that Jenna is a spoiled brat, and her dad has some issues he should work out in therapy instead of with his wallet.... but the thing about the rabbit and the crib needing to be set up NOW NOW NOW is over the top. She's only 20 weeks pregnant, calm down folks, there's time.....

[PicnicLife77]

While I feel bad that Myrka feels unloved, I can't fault her mom. This is what we've all been hoping to see, a mom with consequences and a backbone,  and now everyone hates her for it?

[Adiba]

3 hours ago, abracadabra said:

While I feel bad that Myrka feels unloved, I can't fault her mom. This is what we've all been hoping to see, a mom with consequences and a backbone,  and now everyone hates her for it?

I don’t know about hate, but I think kicking a 15 year old child out of the house is extreme. As mentioned by another poster in the episode 2 thread, it may be considered child neglect/abandonment in Texas.

[teapot]

5 hours ago, TeapotWakeen said:

I agree that Jenna is a spoiled brat, and her dad has some issues he should work out in therapy instead of with his wallet.... but the thing about the rabbit and the crib needing to be set up NOW NOW NOW is over the top. She's only 20 weeks pregnant, calm down folks, there's time.....

Seriously.  She’s the textbook definition of “spoiled”.  Ruined.  How on earth is she going to be a mom?  To be at someone else’s beck and call constantly?  Good luck!!!

they’re all sooo immature (mind you, I’m older than Grandma Dixie)

Tyra to her sister: “stop saying “like”!”

Tiara:  “watch your own fucking kid!”

Reanna:  “I’m NOT TALKING.”

 Myrka’s too busy catering to her mom and trying to not annoy any of the twelve people around her, so I’m not snarking on her.  Today

 

 

 

 

 

 

[IvySpice]

Well, Myrka has put to rest any lingering questions about whether there was any love in her house. She thought that family members being nice to each other and acting happy to be together was something out of the movies. I’d die of shame if my child said such a thing on TV...much more so than if she were pregnant.

Aden is smarter than I gave him credit for. Terrible taste in women, but there are a couple of brain cells knocking around up there. He basically said, “Jenna, you dumbass, don’t you see what a good gravy train we’re riding here? Shut up before you get both of us thrown off!” Now that’s a kid with a clue.

10 hours ago, Marisagf said:

if she has a support system willing to help her

Ah, but does she? The baby’s other parent would rather house his infant daughter with some random stranger than risk upsetting his useless mom. So he either has crummy judgment or no grasp of his responsibilities. Meanwhile, Tiarra is like “We have lives [which I doubt] and can’t be expected to rescue your baby!” So Tyra is realizing that she’s the only one who’s equipped to protect that child. Shame on Alex.

[Chris Knight]

45 minutes ago, IvySpice said:

Well, Myrka has put to rest any lingering questions about whether there was any love in her house. She thought that family members being nice to each other and acting happy to be together was something out of the movies. I’d die of shame if my child said such a thing on TV...much more so than if she were 

When did she say that  ? I must have nodded off for a bit. Again. 

[IvySpice]

Ethan quoted Myrka saying those things in one of their THs. I think it was in the first third of the show.

Edited January 5, 2021 by IvySpice

[PicnicLife77]

Yeah, I'm conflicted on Myrka's mom and life. It's true that you can't kick out a minor child, and yes very sad to hear what she said about families actually being happy.

At the same time I, myself, am a hard ass, and I understood where her mom was coming from when she expressed that she wasn't going to love another child as much as she loves Myrka. Sometimes there are only so many resources and care to go around, and she only chose to have two kids. But true, she doesn't have to love the baby the same amount, but she shouldn't want to see them on the streets. I do wonder if she really would have let that happen had Ethan's parents not given her a soft place to land. 

I'll be honest, we are a blended family over here and we DO say things like "such and such behavior will not be tolerated at this house because we care. Your other parent may be the fun one and allow that, but we do not," and it has happened that a child has been "sent" to live with the other parent because of inappropriate behaviors (extreme things like drugs, drinking or legal trouble) that the other parent didn't seem to have an issue with. Had we not had this option of course we wouldn't kick a child out on the streets, but I truly don't know what we would have done. And we have, embarrassingly, had a kid say they are not "loved or wanted" at this house because we put our foot down in a certain situation and they chose to cry to someone else to come get them.

Edited January 5, 2021 by abracadabra

[DogMom97]

I believe Tyra is going to a college further away because she is on a cheerleading scholarship. I think that was the only way she was able to attend college. I may be wrong, but it seems like that’s part of the reason why she was stressed about cheer last season. 
 

Compared to the other girls who probably wouldn’t blink an eye at a strange man moving in with their toddler, she stepped up and immediately got help. She’s very lucky to have the help she needs in order to get her education.  

[Adeejay]

I applaud Myrka’s mother. Finally, a parent on this show with some sense and a backbone. 

Jenna is an ugly, miserable, manipulative bitch. Her poor put upon father appears to be doing the best that he can and the little shit isn’t the least bit grateful.  I wonder what’s the story with her mother. If I were her father’s wife, there’s no way she would be in my house. Not with that attitude. Let’s see how long the boyfriend sticks around.

[Pepper Mostly]

5 hours ago, Adeejay said:

I applaud Myrka’s mother. Finally, a parent on this show with some sense and a backbone. 

Jenna is an ugly, miserable, manipulative bitch. Her poor put upon father appears to be doing the best that he can and the little shit isn’t the least bit grateful.  I wonder what’s the story with her mother. If I were her father’s wife, there’s no way she would be in my house. Not with that attitude. Let’s see how long the boyfriend sticks around.

Jenna's father seems to think that the only way his daughter will love him is if he gives in and lets her have her way. I want to shake him. She is a teenage girl! A remarkably dull and stupid teenage girl to boot. Wait till dad is up in the middle of the night to take care of his dippy daughter's baby. You know he'll do it. 

[Mr. Miner]

22 hours ago, Poohbear617 said:

Yes the father would probably be able to go off and get an athletic scholarship and such and its not fair but the way that she is carrying on here then she should switch schools. 

She needs to switch from Alex who doesn't want his jacked up looking mother mad at him. WTF?

[CloseThisAccount]

Ethan's parents should sue Myrka's mom for child support since they're raising her minor daughter.

Edited January 5, 2021 by TakeAPinotGrigio
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[IvySpice]

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Jenna is an ugly, miserable, manipulative bitch. 

She looks awfully well practiced at the snotty attitude, doesn't she?

A number of posters have found lower-cost public two and four year colleges closer to Tyra's home where she could be with her kid every night. This is not even considering online college options. She said her lifelong dream was cheer. She is attending the satellite campus of a crappy private college 2.5 hours away in order to cheer. Cheer is only making it possible to attend THAT college.

[Dmarie019]

 

On 1/4/2021 at 12:47 AM, Chellichik said:

Oh - forgot to add that I feel sorry for Bun Bun no matter what happens to him.  No way in hell would I allow him to be left in a garage with predator animals yet I doubt Jenna takes proper care of him anyways.  Rabbits are social animals and really should be kept in pairs, if possible.  I wonder how much time he spends outside of that small cage.

I feel so bad for that rabbit! No way should it be put in the garage. wtfffffffff. And that's coming from people who obviously have a love for animals because they have 2 dogs

24 minutes ago, IvySpice said:

She looks awfully well practiced at the snotty attitude, doesn't she?

A number of posters have found lower-cost public two and four year colleges closer to Tyra's home where she could be with her kid every night. This is not even considering online college options. She said her lifelong dream was cheer. She is attending the satellite campus of a crappy private college 2.5 hours away in order to cheer. Cheer is only making it possible to attend THAT college.

While I do find the decision a bit odd... if cheering is getting her through college then absolutely she should go for it.  If she's stuck at home doing online courses then she likely has a huge chance of just quitting. Cheering gives her the motivation to go to college. 

[readheaded]

18 hours ago, abracadabra said:

Yeah, I'm conflicted on Myrka's mom and life. It's true that you can't kick out a minor child, and yes very sad to hear what she said about families actually being happy.

At the same time I, myself, am a hard ass, and I understood where her mom was coming from when she expressed that she wasn't going to love another child as much as she loves Myrka. Sometimes there are only so many resources and care to go around, and she only chose to have two kids. But true, she doesn't have to love the baby the same amount, but she shouldn't want to see them on the streets. I do wonder if she really would have let that happen had Ethan's parents not given her a soft place to land. 

I'll be honest, we are a blended family over here and we DO say things like "such and such behavior will not be tolerated at this house because we care. Your other parent may be the fun one and allow that, but we do not," and it has happened that a child has been "sent" to live with the other parent because of inappropriate behaviors (extreme things like drugs, drinking or legal trouble) that the other parent didn't seem to have an issue with. Had we not had this option of course we wouldn't kick a child out on the streets, but I truly don't know what we would have done. And we have, embarrassingly, had a kid say they are not "loved or wanted" at this house because we put our foot down in a certain situation and they chose to cry to someone else to come get them.

Myrka's mother gets a lot of heat, but I wonder where her father is?  

6 hours ago, TakeAPinotGrigio said:

Ethan's parents should sue Myrka's mom for child support since they're raising her minor daughter.

Her mom AND dad.

[AhFillAck]

Early in this episode, Jenna's dad said (while he was on the couch, talking about buying her the crib) that she had "grown up a lot." Um, what? In what way, shape or form, and on what planet?

Please advise. 

 

Edited January 6, 2021 by AhFillAck

[JustDuckie]

On 1/4/2021 at 12:24 AM, SuseQ said:

I agree with you. Jenna is the worst! She is beyond entitled. Has no humility or gratitude. Her father should not have given in about the room. Who cares is Jenna is cramped in her room?! She's the one who got pregnant. It's her fault. I despise her.

Myrka’s mother is correct. And has a spine. 
 

 

 

Agree with all of this - 100%

[suzeecat]

That was the most ridiculously over-the-top gender reveal party I've ever seen.  Were they making up for a Quinceañera that girl missed out on?  Myrka's mom appeared to have an over-abundance of pent-up, coflicting emotions.  She loves her daughter, yet hates the decisions she made.  She will love her granddaughter, but hate the circumstances that brought her into the world.  She would give her own daughter the world if the daughter would follow her modest guidelines for appropriate teenage behavior.  She would have loved to give her daughter the same celebration under different circumstances.  Instead, some other family is taking over and making her feel/look bad about sticking to her morals.  And she works HARD!  I too would like to know what type of work she does. 

Jenna - I'm surprised she doesn't get smacked just walking down the street by people who have seen her on this show.  She is the worst and I think the only reason the boyfriend is around is for the free ride.  The dad has more money than sense and I wonder how long stepmom is going to stay sweet about it all. 

Why am I not shocked to see Hailey return and admit that she's sleeping with that dirty dog baby daddy???  Girrrrllll . . . .!

Reanna's boyfriend messed up by being unfaithful but is trying to do the right thing.  He seems like a decent kid.  She could do far worse. 

Edited January 11, 2021 by suzeecat
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[b2H]

On 1/4/2021 at 2:11 PM, TeapotWakeen said:

I agree that Jenna is a spoiled brat, and her dad has some issues he should work out in therapy instead of with his wallet.... but the thing about the rabbit and the crib needing to be set up NOW NOW NOW is over the top. She's only 20 weeks pregnant, calm down folks, there's time.....

 I don't disagree that Jenna's dad is a problem, but where the heck is Mom?  Not the Stepmom.  But the biological mother of this terrible person.  Jenna should be shipped back to Mom.

With respect to Myrka's mom, what the heck job does she have that she's working six days a week, over sixty hours a week?

[jackjill89]

Jenna is presenting as dumber than a stump. I feel like there are quite a few synapses not firing in that brain of hers. She's arrested at toddler level as far as her needs and wants are concerned. Dad should be horrified at the petulant, spoiled brat he's raised. 

The gender reveal was ridiculously over the top. 

 

[BravoAddict72]

Tyra is mad at the wrong person. It is not Alex's house, he can't control who lives there. Her yelling at Alex isn't going to change anything. His grandma had a point. Tyra is allowed to live there so why can't his mom's boyfriend? Not that I agree with it but it's true.

I could never kick my child out. So Myrka's mother has never made a mistake? Didn't she expect Mryka to help raise her brother? And wasn't she a teenage mother herself? I could see not celebrating the baby,  but I think she is wrong for kicking her out.

[configdotsys]

On 1/13/2021 at 2:41 PM, BravoAddict72 said:

I could never kick my child out. So Myrka's mother has never made a mistake? Didn't she expect Mryka to help raise her brother? And wasn't she a teenage mother herself? I could see not celebrating the baby,  but I think she is wrong for kicking her out.

I am very late to this party as I am binging this today after getting my second covid shot but I have to say that I can so relate to Myrka. My mother would have had nothing to do with me if that was me. I actually don't know that I would have survived telling my parents news like that. 

When Myrka said that she went out to dinner with Ethan and his family and was like, "This is fake, that families like each other and joke around," and that only happens on TV, I wanted to weep because that is SO me. I still to this day in my 50s view families who joke around and stuff as something only seen on television sitcoms. I cannot relate to that in even a tiny way.

I don't know what happens with Myrka's mother but if her mother is anything like mine, she will continue to hold the same attitude towards Myrka and the grand kid. She essentially said at one point that she doesn't care about the grandkid, only her two kids. 

In a way, I am glad they are showing Myrka's mother because people need to know that there are parents just like her out there. I know because I had one myself. My mother would not have bent an inch. She would have zero problem disowning me. I think more foreign born parents are like this. At least mine were. 

[StormWarning]

I have no problem believing Myrka's mother's attitude.  From childhood on, my mother told me that, if I had a child, I wouldn't be welcome home until that child was old enough to drive.  Since my mother never made empty threats, I knew that if I got pregnant, I would have to choose between my family and my unborn child.  My mother also told me that I wouldn't know true hell until I become a mother. 

Anyone surprised that I chose to adopt a cat instead?

Of course, after my child bearing years passed, the same woman told me that my failure to produce a child was because I was so self-centered.  Go figure.